Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Elchanan and his alias Bob Farrell and likely several other aliases is being deceptive all in the interest of making money here and elsewhere on the internet…dishonestly. 1) He has been sending private sarcastic emails to one particular person ….perhaps more…in this group who does not go along with his way of thinking and talking to people. She has emailed me privately about this. 3 ) He is not " sharing his knowledge and helping people " in this group out of the goodness of his heart. No, he is trying to entice you to pay for his consultations and/or go to Path of Health where he charges you to belong after the first few months…he has admitted this. 4) 2) He invites group members to have private consultations with him saying he does not charge but that he will gratefully accept recompense. 5) 3) He runs the Path of Health for which he charges. You are asked to send him CASH. This is a complete violation of the Terms of Service of ALL . They are FREE. You do not have to PAY to belong to a , but Elchanan says you are no longer allowed in the Path of Health Group if you don't pay. 6) 4) When he is challenged in this group he takes on some of his other personas and writes to you all about how great Elchanan he is and how valuable his words are and how there's no problem with his receiving money or how the money doesn't really go to him personally but to the good work he's supposedly doing…all written as if by someone else but actually by him. 7) No, I am not angry with Elchanan, but I feel that he is here on false pretenses and that those on this group and in others who trust him and the information he offers can see more fully what is going on and be able to make a more informed judgment about whether or not their trust is warranted. I'm sure Elchanan will flood this group with support for himself under various aliases. Do not be fooled. 8) Below is a document found in the Files Section of PATH OF HEALTH where Elchanan describes his " exchange " program…exchange means YOU SEND HIM CASH. I wonder why it's cash. So you don't pay taxes? So there's no proof you were paid against the rules? Path of Health Community Invitation Greetings, We hope you have enjoyed your time among us since you arrived in the Path of Health Community several weeks ago. Your first 2+ months in our community are a time for getting to know us, to decide whether you wish to remain as a long-term participant. We are writing to you now to invite you to join us, because your 2-month getting acquainted period is drawing to a close. To continue as a participant in the Path of Health Community, we require that you do two things: · Complete our certificated educational program called Getting Started on the Path of Health. You can find information about this program, including links to teleconference recordings and handouts and to all certification activities, in this document: Getting Started on the Path of Health~Activities & Certification (View on-screen) <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs & Events/GettingStarted/GettingStart\ edOnThePathOfHealth%7EActivities & Certification.htm> Getting Started on the Path of Health~Activities & Certification (Download) <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs & Events/GettingStarted/GettingStart\ edOnThePathOfHealth%7EActivities & Certification.rtf> * Begin to participate in our Exchange Program. What is the Exchange Program? We are an exchange-based community. This means that each of us chooses to donate funds, either monthly or annually, to the ministry that sponsors our community. We do this to nourish those who nourish us, to create a sense of balance and flow among us, and to support the ongoing development of activities that enrich all of our lives. (We do not exclude anyone who genuinely cannot generate such funds.) If you wish to continue as a participant among us, then at some time during the next two weeks, we request that you send your first donation in support of our community. You may choose to send cash (U.S. currency) in the amount of USD 25/month or USD 250/year or the equivalent in any of these currencies: · Liberty Dollars (www.LibertyDollar.org <http://www.libertydollar.org/> ) · Euros · Pounds sterling To send your donation, simply wrap the amount of cash you wish to send and place it into an envelope addressed to: The Presiding Emissary for Vibrant Living Ministries, and Successors In care of 505 Mesa Verde Place Pleasant Hill [94523] California written on the envelope exactly as shown above. If your heart says " stay " and you genuinely believe that you cannot create the funds needed, then we encourage you to reply in privacy to this message and briefly describe your circumstances. Why do we wish to receive only cash donations? You might wonder why we choose to receive only cash. We do this for two primary reasons. First, we save a LOT of time and energy by eliminating banking-related work. Second, we preserve everyone's privacy considerably. If you are not in the habit of using cash, it's easy! You can obtain cash at any ATM machine or as " cash back " in many groceries and other retail establishments. You can find an ATM machine almost everywhere—even at gas stations! J What are my options? If you choose not to participate in our community for the long term, then we thank you for visiting with us, and we wish you well! You need do nothing: if we do not hear from you, then in about 15 days we will remove you from our community and from our discussion group. Unless you request otherwise, we will retain your email address in our database and continue to send you announcements about our teleconferences and other programs we offer to the general public. If you leave now and wish to return later, we will welcome you! At that time, we will offer you an additional 10 days to fulfill our participation requirements—completion of our Getting Started on the Path of Health certification program and participation in our Exchange Program. How can I receive more information? If you would like to learn more about Vibrant Living Ministries and the ideas behind our approach, we invite you to listen to this teleconference recording: * Ministry, Spirituality, & Health--Audio+Handout--Path of Health <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs & Events/Special/MinistrySpiritualit\ y & Health--Jan.10.2007CE--PathOfHealth.zip> In addition, we have prepared a comprehensive description of our Exchange Program, available at: * Path of Health Community Exchange Program: Description (View on-screen) <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Community/Participation/PathOfHealthCommuni\ ty-ExchangeProgram%7EDescription.htm> * Path of Health Community Exchange Program: Description (Download) <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Community/Participation/PathOfHealthCommuni\ ty-ExchangeProgram%7EDescription.rtf> We invite you to contact us directly via email at Exchange <Exchange . If you wish, we are also happy to connect with you directly via phone, Skype, or the like. We look forward to building together the most vital and robust community any of us can imagine! And we wish, for all of us, the very best that love and life have to offer. The People in the Path of Health Community Copyright 5767 (2007 CE in the common calendar): The Presiding Emissary for Vibrant Living Ministries, and Successors asserts a private copyright upon this entire publication as an absolute possessor of hereditaments, in accordance with the common law and under natural law. This publication is intended for the private, personal use of participants in the program called Getting Started on the Path of Health, presented through the Path of Health Community, and which also includes the following four teleconferences (semicolon-delimited): What is Health?; Messages From Within: Exploring Symptoms and Senses; Eat to Live!; Nutritional Self-Awareness. The following private marks (semicolon-delimited) are owned by The Presiding Emissary for Vibrant Living Ministries, and Successors as an absolute possessor of hereditaments, in accordance with the common law and under natural law: Vibrant Living Ministries; The Presiding Emissary for Vibrant Living Ministries, and Successors; Path of Health; Path of Health Community; PathOfHealth; Getting Started on the Path of Health; What Is Health?; Messages From Within; Messages From Within: Exploring Symptoms and Senses; Eat to Live!; Nutritional Self-Awareness; Ministry, Spirituality, & Health 1is 2) .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 now that DOES sound like a cult. but im not about to pay anyone for anything i can get for free....so i would never have joined such a group.. others may want to..their choice...but it shouldnt be a in violation of rules. thank you for the info..now we know. report the violation to . the rest of us are going back to raw food.... peace anna On 6/1/07, sherrardh <guinevieve wrote: > > Elchanan and his alias Bob Farrell and likely several other aliases is > being deceptive all in the interest of making money here and elsewhere > on the internet…dishonestly. > 1) He has been sending private sarcastic emails to one particular person > ….perhaps more…in this group who does not go along with his way > of thinking and talking to people. She has emailed me privately about > this. > > 3 ) He is not " sharing his knowledge and helping people " > in this group out of the goodness of his heart. No, he is trying to > entice you to pay for his consultations and/or go to Path of Health > where he charges you to belong after the first few > months…he has admitted this. > > 4) 2) He invites group members to have private consultations with > him saying he does not charge but that he will gratefully accept > recompense. > > 5) 3) He runs the Path of Health for which he charges. > You are asked to send him CASH. This is a complete violation of the > Terms of Service of ALL . They are FREE. You do not have to > PAY to belong to a , but Elchanan says you are no longer > allowed in the Path of Health Group if you don't pay. > > 6) 4) When he is challenged in this group he takes on some of his > other personas and writes to you all about how great Elchanan he is and > how valuable his words are and how there's no problem with his > receiving money or how the money doesn't really go to him personally > but to the good work he's supposedly doing…all written as if by > someone else but actually by him. > > 7) No, I am not angry with Elchanan, but I feel that he is here on > false pretenses and that those on this group and in others who trust > him and the information he offers can see more fully what is going on > and be able to make a more informed judgment about whether or not > their trust is warranted. I'm sure Elchanan will flood this group > with support for himself under various aliases. Do not be fooled. > > 8) Below is a document found in the Files Section of PATH OF HEALTH > where Elchanan describes his " exchange " > program…exchange means YOU SEND HIM CASH. I wonder why it's > cash. So you don't pay taxes? So there's no proof you were paid > against the rules? > > Path of Health Community > > Invitation > > Greetings, > > > > We hope you have enjoyed your time among us since you arrived in the > Path of Health Community several weeks ago. Your first 2+ months in our > community are a time for getting to know us, to decide whether you wish > to remain as a long-term participant. We are writing to you now to > invite you to join us, because your 2-month getting acquainted period is > drawing to a close. > > > > To continue as a participant in the Path of Health Community, we require > that you do two things: > > > > · Complete our certificated educational program called Getting > Started on the Path of Health. You can find information about this > program, including links to teleconference recordings and handouts and > to all certification activities, in this document: > > > > Getting Started on the Path of Health~Activities & Certification (View > on-screen) > <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs & Events/GettingStarted/GettingStart\ > edOnThePathOfHealth%7EActivities & Certification.htm> > > Getting Started on the Path of Health~Activities & Certification > (Download) > <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs & Events/GettingStarted/GettingStart\ > edOnThePathOfHealth%7EActivities & Certification.rtf> > > > > * Begin to participate in our Exchange Program. > > What is the Exchange Program? > > We are an exchange-based community. This means that each of us chooses > to donate funds, either monthly or annually, to the ministry that > sponsors our community. We do this to nourish those who nourish us, to > create a sense of balance and flow among us, and to support the ongoing > development of activities that enrich all of our lives. (We do not > exclude anyone who genuinely cannot generate such funds.) > > > > If you wish to continue as a participant among us, then at some time > during the next two weeks, we request that you send your first donation > in support of our community. You may choose to send cash (U.S. currency) > in the amount of USD 25/month or USD 250/year or the equivalent in any > of these currencies: > > · Liberty Dollars (www.LibertyDollar.org > <http://www.libertydollar.org/> ) > > · Euros > > · Pounds sterling > > > > To send your donation, simply wrap the amount of cash you wish to send > and place it into an envelope addressed to: > > > > The Presiding Emissary for Vibrant Living Ministries, and Successors > > In care of 505 Mesa Verde Place > > Pleasant Hill [94523] > > California > > > > written on the envelope exactly as shown above. > > > > If your heart says " stay " and you genuinely believe that you > cannot create the funds needed, then we encourage you to reply in > privacy to this message and briefly describe your circumstances. > > Why do we wish to receive only cash donations? > > You might wonder why we choose to receive only cash. We do this for two > primary reasons. First, we save a LOT of time and energy by eliminating > banking-related work. Second, we preserve everyone's privacy > considerably. > > > > If you are not in the habit of using cash, it's easy! You can obtain > cash at any ATM machine or as " cash back " in many groceries and > other retail establishments. You can find an ATM machine almost > everywhere—even at gas stations! J > > What are my options? > > If you choose not to participate in our community for the long term, > then we thank you for visiting with us, and we wish you well! You need > do nothing: if we do not hear from you, then in about 15 days we will > remove you from our community and from our discussion group. Unless you > request otherwise, we will retain your email address in our database and > continue to send you announcements about our teleconferences and other > programs we offer to the general public. > > > > If you leave now and wish to return later, we will welcome you! At that > time, we will offer you an additional 10 days to fulfill our > participation requirements—completion of our Getting Started on the > Path of Health certification program and participation in our Exchange > Program. > > How can I receive more information? > > If you would like to learn more about Vibrant Living Ministries and the > ideas behind our approach, we invite you to listen to this > teleconference recording: > > > > * Ministry, Spirituality, & Health--Audio+Handout--Path of > Health > <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs & Events/Special/MinistrySpiritualit\ > y & Health--Jan.10.2007CE--PathOfHealth.zip> > > > > In addition, we have prepared a comprehensive description of our > Exchange Program, available at: > > > > * Path of Health Community Exchange Program: Description (View > on-screen) > <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Community/Participation/PathOfHealthCommuni\ > ty-ExchangeProgram%7EDescription.htm> > * Path of Health Community Exchange Program: Description > (Download) > <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Community/Participation/PathOfHealthCommuni\ > ty-ExchangeProgram%7EDescription.rtf> > > > > We invite you to contact us directly via email at > Exchange <Exchange . If you > wish, we are also happy to connect with you directly via phone, Skype, > or the like. > > > > We look forward to building together the most vital and robust community > any of us can imagine! And we wish, for all of us, the very best that > love and life have to offer. > > > > The People in the Path of Health Community > > > > > > Copyright 5767 (2007 CE in the common calendar): The Presiding Emissary > for Vibrant Living Ministries, and Successors asserts a private > copyright upon this entire publication as an absolute possessor of > hereditaments, in accordance with the common law and under natural law. > This publication is intended for the private, personal use of > participants in the program called Getting Started on the Path of > Health, presented through the Path of Health Community, and which also > includes the following four teleconferences (semicolon-delimited): What > is Health?; Messages From Within: Exploring Symptoms and Senses; Eat to > Live!; Nutritional Self-Awareness. The following private marks > (semicolon-delimited) are owned by The Presiding Emissary for Vibrant > Living Ministries, and Successors as an absolute possessor of > hereditaments, in accordance with the common law and under natural law: > Vibrant Living Ministries; The Presiding Emissary for Vibrant Living > Ministries, and Successors; Path of Health; Path of Health Community; > PathOfHealth; Getting Started on the Path of Health; What Is Health?; > Messages From Within; Messages From Within: Exploring Symptoms and > Senses; Eat to Live!; Nutritional Self-Awareness; Ministry, > Spirituality, & Health > > > > > > 1is > > 2) > > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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