After Harassment From One Member I have Decided to leave this Group

[Guest guest]

After being harassed everytime I post on this board I have had

enough and I will be leaving this group. I thought this was a

discussion group not a personal attack group this is one of many

private emails I have had sent to me from this member. I did not

want to leave without letting everyone here know exactly why! I am

sorry it had to come to this but I have been here a little over a

month and from day one I have been attacked publically and privatly.

 

 

El wrote:

And this has what to do with writing privately to the individual

involved

and/or the moderator?

 

FYI, absolutely none of the funds that come into Path of Health go

to me

personally ... zero. Of course, to know that you'd have had to ask

first,

then jump to conclusions, rather than the apparent opposite.

 

E

 

 

sarah shaw [hppymummy]

Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:45 PM

Elchanan

RE: FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

 

I have had just about enough of your additude towards me you have

attacked

me from day one because I don't follow your cult. How would people

on here

feel to know you are on here as other user names, your are frauding

 

and other people by taking their money which by the way is called

extortion

you are not helping these people you are brainwashing them into

giving you

money for your own personal gain. You are nothing but a con artist

who

belongs in jail!

 

 

> " Elchanan " <Elchanan

> " 'sarah shaw' " <hppymummy

>FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

>Thu, 31 May 2007 13:34:22 -0700

>

>And your advice does not apply to you because ...?

>

> _____

>

>rawfood [rawfood ] On

>Behalf Of sarah shaw

>Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:43 PM

>rawfood

>Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

>

>

>

>well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the moderator

a

>private

>

>email instead of bothering us???

>

> > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

>com>

> >rawfood@ <rawfood%

40> .com

> >rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com

> >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> >Thu, 31 May 2007 12:30:16 -0700

> >

> >his settings arent working the way he wants. Thinks the moderator

can

> >help him..but hes taken to writing in caps and is sending

repeated

> >messages....getting old.

> >

> >On 5/31/07, sarah shaw <hppymummy (AT) hotmail (DOT)

><hppymummy%40hotmail.com>

>com> wrote:

> > > what is he asking for I dont understand what the issue is?

> > >

> > >

> > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

>com>

> > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

40>

> > > >.com

> > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

40> .com

> > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 10:41:22 -0700

> > > >

> > > >can someone deal with this guy please.

> > > >

> > > >hes disrupting this list.

> > > >

> > > >On 5/31/07, Jerry <Jertoons (AT) aol (DOT) <Jertoons%40aol.com>

com>

>wrote:

> > > > > PLEASE ADJUST THE ACTUAL HAPPENSTANCE TO REFLECT THE

SETTINGS

> > > > > AS

> >SHOWN

> > > > > IN MY MEMBERSHIP PROFILE.

> > > > >

> > > > > PLEASE.

> > > > >

> > > > > THANK YOU.

> > > > >

> > > > > jerry

[Guest guest]

im sorry...how is this harassment? How many emails has he sent? Have

you asked him to stop?

 

he has been put on the defensive by you, and others, his comment is

actually quite reasonable under the circumstances - if thats the worst

he wrote.

 

but you may not want contact by him..thats reasonable too...block him.

 

all things considered, those words are pretty mild compared to the

full on libel posted here by others (assuming the statements turn out

to be false)...

 

i would have said much worse.

or rather, my attorney would have.

 

we dont want to see anyone go but if theres this many hard feelings,

then maybe its better for everyone if there was a parting. Life is too

short to spend it in such bad energy.

 

my .02 cents...

 

peace

anna

 

On 6/1/07, sarah007ca <hppymummy wrote:

>

> After being harassed everytime I post on this board I have had

> enough and I will be leaving this group. I thought this was a

> discussion group not a personal attack group this is one of many

> private emails I have had sent to me from this member. I did not

> want to leave without letting everyone here know exactly why! I am

> sorry it had to come to this but I have been here a little over a

> month and from day one I have been attacked publically and privatly.

>

>

> El wrote:

> And this has what to do with writing privately to the individual

> involved

> and/or the moderator?

>

> FYI, absolutely none of the funds that come into Path of Health go

> to me

> personally ... zero. Of course, to know that you'd have had to ask

> first,

> then jump to conclusions, rather than the apparent opposite.

>

> E

>

>

> sarah shaw [hppymummy]

> Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:45 PM

> Elchanan

> RE: FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

>

> I have had just about enough of your additude towards me you have

> attacked

> me from day one because I don't follow your cult. How would people

> on here

> feel to know you are on here as other user names, your are frauding

>

> and other people by taking their money which by the way is called

> extortion

> you are not helping these people you are brainwashing them into

> giving you

> money for your own personal gain. You are nothing but a con artist

> who

> belongs in jail!

>

>

> > " Elchanan " <Elchanan

> > " 'sarah shaw' " <hppymummy

> >FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> >Thu, 31 May 2007 13:34:22 -0700

> >

> >And your advice does not apply to you because ...?

> >

> > _____

> >

> >rawfood [rawfood ] On

> >Behalf Of sarah shaw

> >Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:43 PM

> >rawfood

> >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> >

> >

> >

> >well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the moderator

> a

> >private

> >

> >email instead of bothering us???

> >

> > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> > ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> >com>

> > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40> .com

> > >rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com

> > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > >Thu, 31 May 2007 12:30:16 -0700

> > >

> > >his settings arent working the way he wants. Thinks the moderator

> can

> > >help him..but hes taken to writing in caps and is sending

> repeated

> > >messages....getting old.

> > >

> > >On 5/31/07, sarah shaw <hppymummy (AT) hotmail (DOT)

> ><hppymummy%40hotmail.com>

> >com> wrote:

> > > > what is he asking for I dont understand what the issue is?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> >com>

> > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40>

> > > > >.com

> > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40> .com

> > > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 10:41:22 -0700

> > > > >

> > > > >can someone deal with this guy please.

> > > > >

> > > > >hes disrupting this list.

> > > > >

> > > > >On 5/31/07, Jerry <Jertoons (AT) aol (DOT) <Jertoons%40aol.com>

> com>

> >wrote:

> > > > > > PLEASE ADJUST THE ACTUAL HAPPENSTANCE TO REFLECT THE

> SETTINGS

> > > > > > AS

> > >SHOWN

> > > > > > IN MY MEMBERSHIP PROFILE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLEASE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THANK YOU.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jerry

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Did I miss something? I only one I see in this post getting

harrassed is Elchanan. Harrassed pretty good too. The only thing I

see here is his reply to the orginal posters comments and

accusations. Is that not expected? Few people are going to let

someone accuse them of something without responding to it.

 

Anyway, people cannot be brainwashed unless they want to be.

 

Asking for money and getting money is two different things.

If you don't want to give money to someone or something, then don't.

I have yet to see anyone ask for money on this board. If another

board is asking for money and you think it wrong and it bothers you.

Just stay off the board and out of the community. Like I once told

my children. If you don't like how your friends are playing, then

just take your ball and go home.

 

Now since I have seen Elchanan being accused of being a cultist or

something like that, I will ask.

 

Elchanan, are you a cult leader?

 

 

Belinda

in TN

 

 

rawfood , " sarah007ca " <hppymummy wrote:

>

>

> After being harassed everytime I post on this board I have had

> enough and I will be leaving this group. I thought this was a

> discussion group not a personal attack group this is one of many

> private emails I have had sent to me from this member. I did not

> want to leave without letting everyone here know exactly why! I am

> sorry it had to come to this but I have been here a little over a

> month and from day one I have been attacked publically and privatly.

>

>

> El wrote:

> And this has what to do with writing privately to the individual

> involved

> and/or the moderator?

>

> FYI, absolutely none of the funds that come into Path of Health go

> to me

> personally ... zero. Of course, to know that you'd have had to ask

> first,

> then jump to conclusions, rather than the apparent opposite.

>

> E

>

>

> sarah shaw [hppymummy]

> Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:45 PM

> Elchanan

> RE: FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

>

> I have had just about enough of your additude towards me you have

> attacked

> me from day one because I don't follow your cult. How would people

> on here

> feel to know you are on here as other user names, your are frauding

>

> and other people by taking their money which by the way is called

> extortion

> you are not helping these people you are brainwashing them into

> giving you

> money for your own personal gain. You are nothing but a con artist

> who

> belongs in jail!

>

>

> > " Elchanan " <Elchanan

> > " 'sarah shaw' " <hppymummy

> >FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> >Thu, 31 May 2007 13:34:22 -0700

> >

> >And your advice does not apply to you because ...?

> >

> > _____

> >

> >rawfood [rawfood ] On

> >Behalf Of sarah shaw

> >Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:43 PM

> >rawfood

> >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> >

> >

> >

> >well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the moderator

> a

> >private

> >

> >email instead of bothering us???

> >

> > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> > ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> >com>

> > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40> .com

> > >rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com

> > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > >Thu, 31 May 2007 12:30:16 -0700

> > >

> > >his settings arent working the way he wants. Thinks the

moderator

> can

> > >help him..but hes taken to writing in caps and is sending

> repeated

> > >messages....getting old.

> > >

> > >On 5/31/07, sarah shaw <hppymummy (AT) hotmail (DOT)

> ><hppymummy%40hotmail.com>

> >com> wrote:

> > > > what is he asking for I dont understand what the issue is?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> >com>

> > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40>

> > > > >.com

> > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40> .com

> > > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 10:41:22 -0700

> > > > >

> > > > >can someone deal with this guy please.

> > > > >

> > > > >hes disrupting this list.

> > > > >

> > > > >On 5/31/07, Jerry <Jertoons (AT) aol (DOT) <Jertoons%40aol.com>

> com>

> >wrote:

> > > > > > PLEASE ADJUST THE ACTUAL HAPPENSTANCE TO REFLECT THE

> SETTINGS

> > > > > > AS

> > >SHOWN

> > > > > > IN MY MEMBERSHIP PROFILE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLEASE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THANK YOU.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jerry

>

[Guest guest]

You dont find anything wrong with him sending me this private email

 

(And your advice does not apply to you because ...?)

 

In response to what I posted

>well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the moderator

> > a

> > >private

> > >

> > >email instead of bothering us???

 

Why is he sending me private emails instead of posting them on the

board unless he is trying to hide something. If you look back at

anything I have posted on here he has come back and attacked me. I

am fed up! This is not the first attack. So what part of this do

you not find something wrong with he is basically saying I am

bothering people just for asking a simple question?

 

rawfood , " Belinda " <MistyBlueTN wrote:

>

> Did I miss something? I only one I see in this post getting

> harrassed is Elchanan. Harrassed pretty good too. The only thing

I

> see here is his reply to the orginal posters comments and

> accusations. Is that not expected? Few people are going to let

> someone accuse them of something without responding to it.

>

> Anyway, people cannot be brainwashed unless they want to be.

>

> Asking for money and getting money is two different things.

> If you don't want to give money to someone or something, then

don't.

> I have yet to see anyone ask for money on this board. If another

> board is asking for money and you think it wrong and it bothers

you.

> Just stay off the board and out of the community. Like I once

told

> my children. If you don't like how your friends are playing, then

> just take your ball and go home.

>

> Now since I have seen Elchanan being accused of being a cultist or

> something like that, I will ask.

>

> Elchanan, are you a cult leader?

>

>

> Belinda

> in TN

>

>

> rawfood , " sarah007ca " <hppymummy@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > After being harassed everytime I post on this board I have had

> > enough and I will be leaving this group. I thought this was a

> > discussion group not a personal attack group this is one of many

> > private emails I have had sent to me from this member. I did

not

> > want to leave without letting everyone here know exactly why! I

am

> > sorry it had to come to this but I have been here a little over

a

> > month and from day one I have been attacked publically and

privatly.

> >

> >

> > El wrote:

> > And this has what to do with writing privately to the individual

> > involved

> > and/or the moderator?

> >

> > FYI, absolutely none of the funds that come into Path of Health

go

> > to me

> > personally ... zero. Of course, to know that you'd have had to

ask

> > first,

> > then jump to conclusions, rather than the apparent opposite.

> >

> > E

> >

> >

> > sarah shaw [hppymummy@]

> > Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:45 PM

> > Elchanan@

> > RE: FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> >

> > I have had just about enough of your additude towards me you

have

> > attacked

> > me from day one because I don't follow your cult. How would

people

> > on here

> > feel to know you are on here as other user names, your are

frauding

> >

> > and other people by taking their money which by the way is

called

> > extortion

> > you are not helping these people you are brainwashing them into

> > giving you

> > money for your own personal gain. You are nothing but a con

artist

> > who

> > belongs in jail!

> >

> >

> > > " Elchanan " <Elchanan@>

> > > " 'sarah shaw' " <hppymummy@>

> > >FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > >Thu, 31 May 2007 13:34:22 -0700

> > >

> > >And your advice does not apply to you because ...?

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >rawfood [rawfood ]

On

> > >Behalf Of sarah shaw

> > >Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:43 PM

> > >rawfood

> > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the

moderator

> > a

> > >private

> > >

> > >email instead of bothering us???

> > >

> > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> > > ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> > >com>

> > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> > 40> .com

> > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

40> .com

> > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 12:30:16 -0700

> > > >

> > > >his settings arent working the way he wants. Thinks the

> moderator

> > can

> > > >help him..but hes taken to writing in caps and is sending

> > repeated

> > > >messages....getting old.

> > > >

> > > >On 5/31/07, sarah shaw <hppymummy (AT) hotmail (DOT)

> > ><hppymummy%40hotmail.com>

> > >com> wrote:

> > > > > what is he asking for I dont understand what the issue is?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> > ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> > >com>

> > > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> > 40>

> > > > > >.com

> > > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> > 40> .com

> > > > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 10:41:22 -0700

> > > > > >

> > > > > >can someone deal with this guy please.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >hes disrupting this list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >On 5/31/07, Jerry <Jertoons (AT) aol (DOT) <Jertoons%

40aol.com>

> > com>

> > >wrote:

> > > > > > > PLEASE ADJUST THE ACTUAL HAPPENSTANCE TO REFLECT THE

> > SETTINGS

> > > > > > > AS

> > > >SHOWN

> > > > > > > IN MY MEMBERSHIP PROFILE.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PLEASE.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > THANK YOU.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > jerry

> >

>

[Guest guest]

talking to someone directly mmaayy be an attempt to hide.

 

it may aallsoo be an attempt to talk privately to someone and/or to

spare them public embarassment....

 

if he bothers you BLOCK HIM. From your private emails and from this

list..you need never read his stuff again.

 

there is no reason for any of this to be taking place. You dont need

to prove anything to us. You dont need to bring all of us into your

dispute. You are a stranger to us and have not lost face with us (to

coin a phrase). We are nobodies to you.

 

you are free to leave if you so wish. This continued discussion

implies that you think you have to win us over from elchanan..this is

not true. You are valuable too..but right now you are the most upset

over something totally unnecessary.

 

we choose our reactions...and our pain. Choose to not give him or

others here the power you have so clearly given away.....

 

peace

anna

 

On 6/1/07, sarah007ca <hppymummy wrote:

>

> You dont find anything wrong with him sending me this private email

>

> (And your advice does not apply to you because ...?)

>

> In response to what I posted

> >well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the moderator

> > > a

> > > >private

> > > >

> > > >email instead of bothering us???

>

> Why is he sending me private emails instead of posting them on the

> board unless he is trying to hide something. If you look back at

> anything I have posted on here he has come back and attacked me. I

> am fed up! This is not the first attack. So what part of this do

> you not find something wrong with he is basically saying I am

> bothering people just for asking a simple question?

>

> rawfood , " Belinda " <MistyBlueTN wrote:

> >

> > Did I miss something? I only one I see in this post getting

> > harrassed is Elchanan. Harrassed pretty good too. The only thing

> I

> > see here is his reply to the orginal posters comments and

> > accusations. Is that not expected? Few people are going to let

> > someone accuse them of something without responding to it.

> >

> > Anyway, people cannot be brainwashed unless they want to be.

> >

> > Asking for money and getting money is two different things.

> > If you don't want to give money to someone or something, then

> don't.

> > I have yet to see anyone ask for money on this board. If another

> > board is asking for money and you think it wrong and it bothers

> you.

> > Just stay off the board and out of the community. Like I once

> told

> > my children. If you don't like how your friends are playing, then

> > just take your ball and go home.

> >

> > Now since I have seen Elchanan being accused of being a cultist or

> > something like that, I will ask.

> >

> > Elchanan, are you a cult leader?

> >

> >

> > Belinda

> > in TN

> >

> >

> > rawfood , " sarah007ca " <hppymummy@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > After being harassed everytime I post on this board I have had

> > > enough and I will be leaving this group. I thought this was a

> > > discussion group not a personal attack group this is one of many

> > > private emails I have had sent to me from this member. I did

> not

> > > want to leave without letting everyone here know exactly why! I

> am

> > > sorry it had to come to this but I have been here a little over

> a

> > > month and from day one I have been attacked publically and

> privatly.

> > >

> > >

> > > El wrote:

> > > And this has what to do with writing privately to the individual

> > > involved

> > > and/or the moderator?

> > >

> > > FYI, absolutely none of the funds that come into Path of Health

> go

> > > to me

> > > personally ... zero. Of course, to know that you'd have had to

> ask

> > > first,

> > > then jump to conclusions, rather than the apparent opposite.

> > >

> > > E

> > >

> > >

> > > sarah shaw [hppymummy@]

> > > Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:45 PM

> > > Elchanan@

> > > RE: FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > >

> > > I have had just about enough of your additude towards me you

> have

> > > attacked

> > > me from day one because I don't follow your cult. How would

> people

> > > on here

> > > feel to know you are on here as other user names, your are

> frauding

> > >

> > > and other people by taking their money which by the way is

> called

> > > extortion

> > > you are not helping these people you are brainwashing them into

> > > giving you

> > > money for your own personal gain. You are nothing but a con

> artist

> > > who

> > > belongs in jail!

> > >

> > >

> > > > " Elchanan " <Elchanan@>

> > > > " 'sarah shaw' " <hppymummy@>

> > > >FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 13:34:22 -0700

> > > >

> > > >And your advice does not apply to you because ...?

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >rawfood [rawfood ]

> On

> > > >Behalf Of sarah shaw

> > > >Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:43 PM

> > > >rawfood

> > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the

> moderator

> > > a

> > > >private

> > > >

> > > >email instead of bothering us???

> > > >

> > > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> > > > ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> > > >com>

> > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> > > 40> .com

> > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40> .com

> > > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 12:30:16 -0700

> > > > >

> > > > >his settings arent working the way he wants. Thinks the

> > moderator

> > > can

> > > > >help him..but hes taken to writing in caps and is sending

> > > repeated

> > > > >messages....getting old.

> > > > >

> > > > >On 5/31/07, sarah shaw <hppymummy (AT) hotmail (DOT)

> > > ><hppymummy%40hotmail.com>

> > > >com> wrote:

> > > > > > what is he asking for I dont understand what the issue is?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> > > ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> > > >com>

> > > > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> > > 40>

> > > > > > >.com

> > > > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> > > 40> .com

> > > > > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > > > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 10:41:22 -0700

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >can someone deal with this guy please.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >hes disrupting this list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >On 5/31/07, Jerry <Jertoons (AT) aol (DOT) <Jertoons%

> 40aol.com>

> > > com>

> > > >wrote:

> > > > > > > > PLEASE ADJUST THE ACTUAL HAPPENSTANCE TO REFLECT THE

> > > SETTINGS

> > > > > > > > AS

> > > > >SHOWN

> > > > > > > > IN MY MEMBERSHIP PROFILE.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > PLEASE.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > THANK YOU.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > jerry

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anna,

 

I like this part (below). And look, I've sent you this message privately.

:)

 

Best,

E

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Friday, June 01, 2007 2:04 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: After Harassment From One Member I have Decided

to leave this Group

 

 

we choose our reactions...and our pain. Choose to not give him or

others here the power you have so clearly given away.....

 

peace

anna

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Or meant to, in fun (sheepishly)

E

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Elchanan

Friday, June 01, 2007 2:14 PM

rawfood

RE: [Raw Food] Re: After Harassment From One Member I have Decided

to leave this Group

 

 

..

 

<http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId

=29777/stime=1180732530/nc1=4299916/nc2=4025338/nc3=4609192> Hi Anna,

 

I like this part (below). And look, I've sent you this message privately.

:)

 

Best,

E

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I don't know Elchanan, however, I can tell you that I have learned so much by

few other people than he. I am not a cult follower nor would I ever be. I am an

adult with an adult mind, one that allows me to discern for myself that which I

want/need and that which I do not or is BS. I think if a person is so obscessed

with telling people that someone is a cult or are going to pull money out of

you, they are the ones with the problem and yes, I do think they should bow out

if not for themselves, for the respect of others that are perfectly happy and

benefiting from the rich resources that he and others have to offer.

 

Perhaps if a person spent more time trying to learn from the information instead

of trying to insite a " virtual riot " they would be much healthier in the long

run.

 

My 2 cents,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Belinda <MistyBlueTN

rawfood

Friday, June 1, 2007 3:18:08 PM

[Raw Food] Re: After Harassment From One Member I have Decided to leave

this Group

 

 

Did I miss something? I only one I see in this post getting

harrassed is Elchanan. Harrassed pretty good too. The only thing I

see here is his reply to the orginal posters comments and

accusations. Is that not expected? Few people are going to let

someone accuse them of something without responding to it.

 

Anyway, people cannot be brainwashed unless they want to be.

 

Asking for money and getting money is two different things.

If you don't want to give money to someone or something, then don't.

I have yet to see anyone ask for money on this board. If another

board is asking for money and you think it wrong and it bothers you.

Just stay off the board and out of the community. Like I once told

my children. If you don't like how your friends are playing, then

just take your ball and go home.

 

Now since I have seen Elchanan being accused of being a cultist or

something like that, I will ask.

 

Elchanan, are you a cult leader?

 

 

Belinda

in TN

 

 

rawfood , " sarah007ca " <hppymummy wrote:

>

>

> After being harassed everytime I post on this board I have had

> enough and I will be leaving this group. I thought this was a

> discussion group not a personal attack group this is one of many

> private emails I have had sent to me from this member. I did not

> want to leave without letting everyone here know exactly why! I am

> sorry it had to come to this but I have been here a little over a

> month and from day one I have been attacked publically and privatly.

>

>

> El wrote:

> And this has what to do with writing privately to the individual

> involved

> and/or the moderator?

>

> FYI, absolutely none of the funds that come into Path of Health go

> to me

> personally ... zero. Of course, to know that you'd have had to ask

> first,

> then jump to conclusions, rather than the apparent opposite.

>

> E

>

>

> sarah shaw [hppymummy]

> Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:45 PM

> Elchanan

> RE: FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

>

> I have had just about enough of your additude towards me you have

> attacked

> me from day one because I don't follow your cult. How would people

> on here

> feel to know you are on here as other user names, your are frauding

>

> and other people by taking their money which by the way is called

> extortion

> you are not helping these people you are brainwashing them into

> giving you

> money for your own personal gain. You are nothing but a con artist

> who

> belongs in jail!

>

>

> > " Elchanan " <Elchanan

> > " 'sarah shaw' " <hppymummy

> >FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> >Thu, 31 May 2007 13:34:22 -0700

> >

> >And your advice does not apply to you because ...?

> >

> > _____

> >

> >rawfood [rawfood ] On

> >Behalf Of sarah shaw

> >Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:43 PM

> >rawfood

> >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> >

> >

> >

> >well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the moderator

> a

> >private

> >

> >email instead of bothering us???

> >

> > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> > ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> >com>

> > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40> .com

> > >rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com

> > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > >Thu, 31 May 2007 12:30:16 -0700

> > >

> > >his settings arent working the way he wants. Thinks the

moderator

> can

> > >help him..but hes taken to writing in caps and is sending

> repeated

> > >messages....getting old.

> > >

> > >On 5/31/07, sarah shaw <hppymummy (AT) hotmail (DOT)

> ><hppymummy%40hotmail.com>

> >com> wrote:

> > > > what is he asking for I dont understand what the issue is?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> >com>

> > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40>

> > > > >.com

> > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> 40> .com

> > > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 10:41:22 -0700

> > > > >

> > > > >can someone deal with this guy please.

> > > > >

> > > > >hes disrupting this list.

> > > > >

> > > > >On 5/31/07, Jerry <Jertoons (AT) aol (DOT) <Jertoons%40aol.com>

> com>

> >wrote:

> > > > > > PLEASE ADJUST THE ACTUAL HAPPENSTANCE TO REFLECT THE

> SETTINGS

> > > > > > AS

> > >SHOWN

> > > > > > IN MY MEMBERSHIP PROFILE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PLEASE.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THANK YOU.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > jerry

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I personally don't see what could possibly be wrong with that statement. He is

asking for clarification. It is not insulting, it is not accusing, it is not

nasty. It is a question. What is wrong with that?

 

I think your issues must go deeper beyond what we are seeing, personally though,

I feel this is not the place for personal issues, this is a place for learning

about raw lifestyle.

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

sarah007ca <hppymummy

rawfood

Friday, June 1, 2007 3:33:51 PM

[Raw Food] Re: After Harassment From One Member I have Decided to leave

this Group

 

 

You dont find anything wrong with him sending me this private email

 

(And your advice does not apply to you because ...?)

 

In response to what I posted

>well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the moderator

> > a

> > >private

> > >

> > >email instead of bothering us???

 

Why is he sending me private emails instead of posting them on the

board unless he is trying to hide something. If you look back at

anything I have posted on here he has come back and attacked me. I

am fed up! This is not the first attack. So what part of this do

you not find something wrong with he is basically saying I am

bothering people just for asking a simple question?

 

rawfood , " Belinda " <MistyBlueTN wrote:

>

> Did I miss something? I only one I see in this post getting

> harrassed is Elchanan. Harrassed pretty good too. The only thing

I

> see here is his reply to the orginal posters comments and

> accusations. Is that not expected? Few people are going to let

> someone accuse them of something without responding to it.

>

> Anyway, people cannot be brainwashed unless they want to be.

>

> Asking for money and getting money is two different things.

> If you don't want to give money to someone or something, then

don't.

> I have yet to see anyone ask for money on this board. If another

> board is asking for money and you think it wrong and it bothers

you.

> Just stay off the board and out of the community. Like I once

told

> my children. If you don't like how your friends are playing, then

> just take your ball and go home.

>

> Now since I have seen Elchanan being accused of being a cultist or

> something like that, I will ask.

>

> Elchanan, are you a cult leader?

>

>

> Belinda

> in TN

>

>

> rawfood , " sarah007ca " <hppymummy@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > After being harassed everytime I post on this board I have had

> > enough and I will be leaving this group. I thought this was a

> > discussion group not a personal attack group this is one of many

> > private emails I have had sent to me from this member. I did

not

> > want to leave without letting everyone here know exactly why! I

am

> > sorry it had to come to this but I have been here a little over

a

> > month and from day one I have been attacked publically and

privatly.

> >

> >

> > El wrote:

> > And this has what to do with writing privately to the individual

> > involved

> > and/or the moderator?

> >

> > FYI, absolutely none of the funds that come into Path of Health

go

> > to me

> > personally ... zero. Of course, to know that you'd have had to

ask

> > first,

> > then jump to conclusions, rather than the apparent opposite.

> >

> > E

> >

> >

> > sarah shaw [hppymummy@]

> > Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:45 PM

> > Elchanan@

> > RE: FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> >

> > I have had just about enough of your additude towards me you

have

> > attacked

> > me from day one because I don't follow your cult. How would

people

> > on here

> > feel to know you are on here as other user names, your are

frauding

> >

> > and other people by taking their money which by the way is

called

> > extortion

> > you are not helping these people you are brainwashing them into

> > giving you

> > money for your own personal gain. You are nothing but a con

artist

> > who

> > belongs in jail!

> >

> >

> > > " Elchanan " <Elchanan@>

> > > " 'sarah shaw' " <hppymummy@>

> > >FW: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > >Thu, 31 May 2007 13:34:22 -0700

> > >

> > >And your advice does not apply to you because ...?

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >rawfood [rawfood ]

On

> > >Behalf Of sarah shaw

> > >Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:43 PM

> > >rawfood

> > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >well thats a little silly maybe he should be sending the

moderator

> > a

> > >private

> > >

> > >email instead of bothering us???

> > >

> > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> > > ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> > >com>

> > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> > 40> .com

> > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

40> .com

> > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 12:30:16 -0700

> > > >

> > > >his settings arent working the way he wants. Thinks the

> moderator

> > can

> > > >help him..but hes taken to writing in caps and is sending

> > repeated

> > > >messages....getting old.

> > > >

> > > >On 5/31/07, sarah shaw <hppymummy (AT) hotmail (DOT)

> > ><hppymummy%40hotmail.com>

> > >com> wrote:

> > > > > what is he asking for I dont understand what the issue is?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece (AT) gmail (DOT)

> > ><mowthpeece%40gmail.com>

> > >com>

> > > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> > 40>

> > > > > >.com

> > > > > >rawfood@ <rawfood%

> > 40> .com

> > > > > >Re: [Raw Food] TO MODERATOR

> > > > > >Thu, 31 May 2007 10:41:22 -0700

> > > > > >

> > > > > >can someone deal with this guy please.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >hes disrupting this list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >On 5/31/07, Jerry <Jertoons (AT) aol (DOT) <Jertoons%

40aol.com>

> > com>

> > >wrote:

> > > > > > > PLEASE ADJUST THE ACTUAL HAPPENSTANCE TO REFLECT THE

> > SETTINGS

> > > > > > > AS

> > > >SHOWN

> > > > > > > IN MY MEMBERSHIP PROFILE.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PLEASE.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > THANK YOU.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > jerry

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

hahaha...you must be hiding something..

 

between you and me.....theyre starting to piss me off...this is

something no one should ever see...so i am resisting it...

 

but really....why the big exit? She wants to go..she should go

already....shes wasting our time and carrying too much bad energy...

 

the human ego really can be a terrible thing once it gets

engaged...ridiculous....

 

a

 

On 6/1/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> Hi Anna,

>

> I like this part (below). And look, I've sent you this message privately.

> :)

>

> Best,

> E

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Friday, June 01, 2007 2:04 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Re: After Harassment From One Member I have Decided

> to leave this Group

>

>

> we choose our reactions...and our pain. Choose to not give him or

> others here the power you have so clearly given away.....

>

> peace

> anna

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

please dont leave, some people just dont understand group behaviour

 

Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: Hi Anna,

 

I like this part (below). And look, I've sent you this message privately.

:)

 

Best,

E

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Friday, June 01, 2007 2:04 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: After Harassment From One Member I have Decided

to leave this Group

 

 

we choose our reactions...and our pain. Choose to not give him or

others here the power you have so clearly given away.....

 

peace

anna

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

hhmm..i dunno..i a'int no shrink...but in my line of work group

behavior is unvariably bad.

 

every single bad quality that one person can express is exacerbated

when in a group setting.

 

your choice of that as a decription for what happened here is not flattering...

 

but if the shoe fits...who am i to say youre wrong?

 

peace

anna

 

On 6/1/07, Doreen Nash <doreennash wrote:

> please dont leave, some people just dont understand group behaviour

>

> Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: Hi Anna,

>

> I like this part (below). And look, I've sent you this message privately.

> :)

>

> Best,

> E

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Friday, June 01, 2007 2:04 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Re: After Harassment From One Member I have Decided

> to leave this Group

>

>

> we choose our reactions...and our pain. Choose to not give him or

> others here the power you have so clearly given away.....

>

> peace

> anna

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think replying privately can be great...it would certainly keep us fromm

having to be in the middle of these ridiculous conversations. Jeez if you don't

like what someone says delete it, block them whatever. All this attacking is

crazy. I feel like I am back in high school. I will say it seems to me Elchanan

offers tons of free advice which also takes time. If someone WANTED to talk to

him further on their own is there something wrong with him getting paid? If I go

to a doctor or therapist etc it all costs and people in any profession need to

earn a living. But no one is forcing anyone which is why this is silly.

 

Sorry Anna this wasn't all directed at your post I just finally decided to

chime in!

 

Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote:

talking to someone directly mmaayy be an attempt to hide.

 

it may aallsoo be an attempt to talk privately to someone and/or to

spare them publicembarassment....

 

if he bothers you BLOCK HIM. From your private emails and from this

list..you need never read his stuff again.

 

there is no reason for any of this to be taking place. You dont need

to prove anything to us. You dont need to bring all of us into your

dispute. You are a stranger to us and have not lost face with us (to

coin a phrase). We are nobodies to you.

 

you are free to leave if you so wish. This continued discussion

implies that you think you have to win us over from elchanan..this is

not true. You are valuable too..but right now you are the most upset

over something totally unnecessary.

 

we choose our reactions...and our pain. Choose to not give him or

others here the power you have so clearly given away.....

 

peace

anna

 

 

 

 

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Dear Terry,

 

I couldn't agree with you more. Thanks for expressing my sentiments.

 

Estelle

 

 

On Jun 4, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Terry Bakhtiari wrote:

 

> I think replying privately can be great...it would certainly keep us

> fromm having to be in the middle of these ridiculous conversations.

> Jeez if you don't like what someone says delete it, block them

> whatever. All this attacking is crazy. I feel like I am back in high

> school. I will say it seems to me Elchanan offers tons of free advice

> which also takes time. If someone WANTED to talk to him further on

> their own is there something wrong with him getting paid? If I go to a

> doctor or therapist etc it all costs and people in any profession need

> to earn a living. But no one is forcing anyone which is why this is

> silly.

>

> Sorry Anna this wasn't all directed at your post I just finally

> decided to chime in!

>

> Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote:

> talking to someone directly mmaayy be an attempt to hide.

>

> it may aallsoo be an attempt to talk privately to someone and/or to

> spare them publicembarassment....

>

> if he bothers you BLOCK HIM. From your private emails and from this

> list..you need never read his stuff again.

>

> there is no reason for any of this to be taking place. You dont need

> to prove anything to us. You dont need to bring all of us into your

> dispute. You are a stranger to us and have not lost face with us (to

> coin a phrase). We are nobodies to you.

>

> you are free to leave if you so wish. This continued discussion

> implies that you think you have to win us over from elchanan..this is

> not true. You are valuable too..but right now you are the most upset

> over something totally unnecessary.

>

> we choose our reactions...and our pain. Choose to not give him or

> others here the power you have so clearly given away.....

>

> peace

> anna

>

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