Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Why would anyone put splenda in anything? Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory to be an insecticide. Scientists were experimenting in making molecules identical to common complex powerful insecticides and just tweaking an atom here or there. Most flavor chemists (who will attest to its being tested safe for food use and put it in food) will not use it personally because of it sinister chemical composition. (Source: New Yorker, The Search for Sweet by Burkhard Bilger May 22, 2006.) www.moleculeoftheday.com/category/food/page/2/ " Sucralose was discovered in 1976 by scientists from Tate & Lyle, working with researchers at Queen Elizabeth College (now part of King's College London). It was discovered by Leslie Hough and a young Indian chemist Shashikant Phadnis. The duo were trying to make an insecticide. On a late-summer day, Phadnis was told to test the powder. Phadnis thought that Leslie asked him to taste it; so he did. He found the compound to be ridiculously sweet (the final formula was 600 times sweeter than sugar). " Whenever someone asks me for Splenda, I always ask the same question, " You do realize that it was originally created for use as insecticide? " ______ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of kerri Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:24 PM rawfood [Raw Food] What a wonderful day... <snip> pitted dates, 8 packets stevia (or splenda), 3 tablespoons cocoa, and 14 ice cubes. It makes about 4 cups. </snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 oh youre not gonna like this.... guilty of splenda use here too.... this story sounds amazingly similar to the story of how aspartame was discovered... another " accidental tasting " .. i have to ask.... ...if this guy was working on it as such a ppoowweerrful insecticide..why in the world would he be so quick to taste it even if his coworker DID tell him to???....why didnt he say " nooooo waaayyy this is a pppoowweerrffuull insecticide!! " ...didnt he think it was dangerous... didnt he stop to think he had to have heard it wrong......?? the first paragraph says the chemists would never use it themselves 'cause its sooo dangerous...then we see in the next paragraph a chemist HAD used it and without fear! theres something very odd about this story...lets put on our critical thinking caps... if someone told me a story like this at my job (police) i would say theyre lying and tear it apart...it just doesnt have the ring of truth to it... that doesnt mean that splenda is good...it might very well be poison...probably is.. but this story reeks.... " on a late-summer day " ..gggeeezzzz....what is this, poetry? it reads like Flannery O'conner for heavens sake... ....maybe theyre just hiring romance novelists to write press releases now..... anyway....calling it an insecticide only tells me that insects have a problem with it... slugs die when you pour salt on them..they actually dissolve..so salt is equivalent to hydrochloric acid then? humans shouldnt have any? not even a little tiny envelope of it? and ants haaate coffee grounds....oooo now thats scary...dont even THINK of touching my morning coffee.... i keep my use of it to a minimum, because its man-made..that by itself makes me doubt its safety...but this story sounds like it was written by the people at *Equal.* sorry....i just haaate being snowed...it makes me kook.. anna On 6/3/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory > to > be an insecticide. Scientists were experimenting in making molecules > identical to common complex powerful insecticides and just tweaking an > atom > here or there. Most flavor chemists (who will attest to its being tested > safe for food use and put it in food) will not use it personally because > of > it sinister chemical composition. (Source: New Yorker, The Search for > Sweet > by Burkhard Bilger May 22, 2006.) > > www.moleculeoftheday.com/category/food/page/2/ > " Sucralose was discovered in 1976 by scientists from Tate & Lyle, working > with researchers at Queen Elizabeth College (now part of King's College > London). It was discovered by Leslie Hough and a young Indian chemist > Shashikant Phadnis. The duo were trying to make an insecticide. On a > late-summer day, Phadnis was told to test the powder. Phadnis thought that > Leslie asked him to taste it; so he did. He found the compound to be > ridiculously sweet (the final formula was 600 times sweeter than sugar). " > > Whenever someone asks me for Splenda, I always ask the same question, " You > do realize that it was originally created for use as insecticide? " > > ______ > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > Of > kerri > Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:24 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] What a wonderful day... > > <snip> > > pitted dates, 8 packets stevia (or splenda), 3 tablespoons cocoa, and 14 > ice > cubes. It makes about 4 cups. > > </snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 This is true... WHY oh WHY would you want to use ANY ARTIFICIAL sweetener? I will not use any of the little packets...not the blue one, the pink one or the yellow one. These are all terrible and loaded with chemicals and are terribly harsh on your kidneys! I wont use anything with ASPARTAME in it either. Why does the FDA continue to let them put these chemicals in food...not that anything that uses these chemicals can be considered food...but lets face it, a majority of the people are consuming these foods and are not told about some of these chemicals, not that I think it would stop most of them. Its a shame they couldn't find a cheap safe sweetener to use. I used to love chewing gum, and occasionally I would love to indulge in a piece, but I wont use the sugary kind, and all the sugar free ones use aspartame. I did find one brand at sunflower market that was all organic and had no artificial sweeteners in it, but it did not chew like gum...it dissolved into this gritty gooey mess and tasted horrid! So I give up on the gum search! LOL.. And continue to wonder about artificial sweeteners....and how long it will take for people to wake up! *********************************** Why would anyone put splenda in anything? Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory to be an insecticide. ********************** Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I tell everyone how terrible all those artificial sweeteners are. I haven't used sugar or had sugar in my house in years. I use Agave or Raw Honey and all my recipes turn out just fine. I did find a brand of gum sweetened with xylitol (sp?) that isn't too bad in the flavor department. I don't use it often though. Caroline rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Dobby the house elf Monday, June 04, 2007 3:13 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! This is true... WHY oh WHY would you want to use ANY ARTIFICIAL sweetener? I will not use any of the little packets...not the blue one, the pink one or the yellow one. These are all terrible and loaded with chemicals and are terribly harsh on your kidneys! I wont use anything with ASPARTAME in it either. Why does the FDA continue to let them put these chemicals in food...not that anything that uses these chemicals can be considered food...but lets face it, a majority of the people are consuming these foods and are not told about some of these chemicals, not that I think it would stop most of them. Its a shame they couldn't find a cheap safe sweetener to use. I used to love chewing gum, and occasionally I would love to indulge in a piece, but I wont use the sugary kind, and all the sugar free ones use aspartame. I did find one brand at sunflower market that was all organic and had no artificial sweeteners in it, but it did not chew like gum...it dissolved into this gritty gooey mess and tasted horrid! So I give up on the gum search! LOL.. And continue to wonder about artificial sweeteners....and how long it will take for people to wake up! *********************************** Why would anyone put splenda in anything? Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory to be an insecticide. ********************** Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Seriously, check the sources. This is not an urban myth. The New Yorker Article, which has a pretty high standard of journalism, tells a pretty interesting story. One of the chemists had a hindi accent, so test sounded a lot like taste. Having worked in labs, this type of really stupid accident is not unheard of. The New Yorker has one of the most scrupulous fact checking department's in all of the written media. They are one of the standards for getting their facts right. (honestly, I would trust their verifying their " facts " more than I would trust anyone on this list. No offense.) The full article (not just the abastract) describes the complex structure of the insecticide that they were copying and how similar splenda's structure is. They had one flavour chemist describe in detailed chemical terms how they are nearly identical. And yes, the FDA approved it after reading the pharmaceutical company's safety report on their own product. If you want to continue eating splenda, that's your choice. Who knows, you maybe achieving some Darwinian result for the human gene pool that benefits us all. Seriously though, your choices are your choices and maybe, for you, the benefits of what splenda brings into your life outweighs the uncalculatable risks of long-term exposure. I sincerely wish you the greatest health and happiness in all things. *********************************************************** Tom Spontelli Instructor Ann Wigmore Natural Health Institute Aguada PR 00602 USA www.AnnWigmore.org Two week Living Foods Lifestyle Certification Program on tropical beach at one of the world's most respected Lifing Foods Institutes. *********************************************************** _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Monday, June 04, 2007 12:31 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! oh youre not gonna like this.... guilty of splenda use here too.... this story sounds amazingly similar to the story of how aspartame was discovered... another " accidental tasting " .. i have to ask.... ...if this guy was working on it as such a ppoowweerrful insecticide..why in the world would he be so quick to taste it even if his coworker DID tell him to???....why didnt he say " nooooo waaayyy this is a pppoowweerrffuull insecticide!! " ...didnt he think it was dangerous... didnt he stop to think he had to have heard it wrong......?? the first paragraph says the chemists would never use it themselves 'cause its sooo dangerous...then we see in the next paragraph a chemist HAD used it and without fear! theres something very odd about this story...lets put on our critical thinking caps... if someone told me a story like this at my job (police) i would say theyre lying and tear it apart...it just doesnt have the ring of truth to it... that doesnt mean that splenda is good...it might very well be poison...probably is.. but this story reeks.... " on a late-summer day " ..gggeeezzzz....what is this, poetry? it reads like Flannery O'conner for heavens sake... ....maybe theyre just hiring romance novelists to write press releases now..... anyway....calling it an insecticide only tells me that insects have a problem with it... slugs die when you pour salt on them..they actually dissolve..so salt is equivalent to hydrochloric acid then? humans shouldnt have any? not even a little tiny envelope of it? and ants haaate coffee grounds....oooo now thats scary...dont even THINK of touching my morning coffee.... i keep my use of it to a minimum, because its man-made..that by itself makes me doubt its safety...but this story sounds like it was written by the people at *Equal.* sorry....i just haaate being snowed...it makes me kook.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 the 6th paragraph, answers the first. here are 2 reasons i would figure that folks (including myself sometimes) use these products (altho i only use splenda) 1- people use these products to keep calories low, thinking of saving calories, then they get used to using them. 2- people use these products because they have issues with sugar, like hypoglycemia (like me) or diabetes. in my situation where i would use agave nectar for something at home, i can not at work....i dont store agave at work....and wouldnt want to. but theyve got lots and lots of multi-colored packets...so i grab one or two.... i don't have it at home..dont have anything artificial at home... i will not become so paranoid that 2 packets of splenda occassionally are going to hurt me, while eating an otherwise exceptional diet that has fortified my system against assaults from splenda in the first place. i am certain that those of you that use shampoo daily dont worry about the fact that its engine degreaser that youre using, and that your scalp pores are the biggest on your body. or that deodarants and antipersperants get *inside* you through your arm pits contributing to breast cancer. or worry that the flouride in your toothpaste, a by product of the aluminum can making process, is going to poison you... or have bothered to take out your mercury/silver fillings...(now THERE is poison)... we are bombarded daily by assaults to our bodies...not just by SAD but by chemicals eeevveerryywwhheerrreee...and how many of you really, and truly, have switched to 100% green products??? air, water, food, cleaning products, beauty products, hygiene products..c'mon. .....if i had to choose my poison..and i do get to choose...we all do....i think 2 packets twice a week on average, is the smarter choice over 7-8 fast food meals in a week, which incidently is what i had gotten to before i switched to 80-90% raw. the splenda helps boost the flavor of an otherwise unpleasant, but raw, combination of flavors, either on bitter fruits or in a smoothie with extra strong greens....if im ONLY taking in 4 packets a week compared to the POUNDS of salt, grease, and god knows what in the fast food that i am replacing with these raw foods, then i am wwwaaayyy ahead of the vvvaaasst majority of people, " healthy " or otherwise. you folks need some perspective. 'cause there are very, very few perfect ones among you. and besides...if eating raw isnt enough to fortify the body against something so small...what are we doing it for anyway? peace anna On 6/4/07, Dobby the house elf <dobeythehouseelf wrote: > > This is true... WHY oh WHY would you want to use ANY ARTIFICIAL sweetener? > > I will not use any of the little packets...not the blue one, the pink one > or the yellow one. > > These are all terrible and loaded with chemicals and are terribly harsh on > your kidneys! > > I wont use anything with ASPARTAME in it either. > > Why does the FDA continue to let them put these chemicals in food...not > that anything that uses these chemicals can be considered food...but lets > face it, a majority of the people are consuming these foods and are not told > about some of these chemicals, not that I think it would stop most of them. > > Its a shame they couldn't find a cheap safe sweetener to use. I used to > love chewing gum, and occasionally I would love to indulge in a piece, but I > wont use the sugary kind, and all the sugar free ones use aspartame. I did > find one brand at sunflower market that was all organic and had no > artificial sweeteners in it, but it did not chew like gum...it dissolved > into this gritty gooey mess and tasted horrid! > > So I give up on the gum search! LOL.. > > And continue to wonder about artificial sweeteners....and how long it will > take for people to wake up! > > > > > *********************************** > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory > to > be an insecticide. > > > > ********************** > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's > on, when. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 You go, girl! You are an informed and mature adult, and you make your choices and run with them. Love your process! You work hard to take of your body to deal with questionable additives and environmental toxins. I applaud how much work you do to love and care for your cells. I am into spreading this information not to be harsh on you but so that others can make their own informed decisions, as well. I, in no way, resent your making a choice for yourself. I do resent chemical conglomerates repackaging a poorly performing insecticide and marketing it as a food additive (which is the case with splenda.) All the best, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I so completely agree what you said about the poisons and toxins in our everyday products. About a year ago I started finding and reading about all the bad stuff in shampoo, lotions, toothpastes and so on. I just about made myself crazy and broke trying to find alternatives for every single product. I finally decided to make as many changes as I could and just live with the fact that I can never have a completely poison and chemical free life. I changed my shampoo, conditioner, soap, toothpaste, deodorant, household cleaning products and maybe one or two other things and have just decided that it will have to be enough!!! I was literally reading every label and freaking out LOL!!! I have decided to make my raw living the same way. I'm not going to spend every second of the day trying to become completely raw, but rather make slow and gradual changes as my life style allows. I'm about 50% right now and hope that with the growing season in full swing to get the percentage a little higher. We'll see how it goes!! Have a wonderful day and thanks for sharing!! Caroline rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Monday, June 04, 2007 1:05 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! the 6th paragraph, answers the first. here are 2 reasons i would figure that folks (including myself sometimes) use these products (altho i only use splenda) 1- people use these products to keep calories low, thinking of saving calories, then they get used to using them. 2- people use these products because they have issues with sugar, like hypoglycemia (like me) or diabetes. in my situation where i would use agave nectar for something at home, i can not at work....i dont store agave at work....and wouldnt want to. but theyve got lots and lots of multi-colored packets...so i grab one or two.... i don't have it at home..dont have anything artificial at home... i will not become so paranoid that 2 packets of splenda occassionally are going to hurt me, while eating an otherwise exceptional diet that has fortified my system against assaults from splenda in the first place. i am certain that those of you that use shampoo daily dont worry about the fact that its engine degreaser that youre using, and that your scalp pores are the biggest on your body. or that deodarants and antipersperants get *inside* you through your arm pits contributing to breast cancer. or worry that the flouride in your toothpaste, a by product of the aluminum can making process, is going to poison you... or have bothered to take out your mercury/silver fillings...(now THERE is poison)... we are bombarded daily by assaults to our bodies...not just by SAD but by chemicals eeevveerryywwhheerrreee...and how many of you really, and truly, have switched to 100% green products??? air, water, food, cleaning products, beauty products, hygiene products..c'mon. .....if i had to choose my poison..and i do get to choose...we all do....i think 2 packets twice a week on average, is the smarter choice over 7-8 fast food meals in a week, which incidently is what i had gotten to before i switched to 80-90% raw. the splenda helps boost the flavor of an otherwise unpleasant, but raw, combination of flavors, either on bitter fruits or in a smoothie with extra strong greens....if im ONLY taking in 4 packets a week compared to the POUNDS of salt, grease, and god knows what in the fast food that i am replacing with these raw foods, then i am wwwaaayyy ahead of the vvvaaasst majority of people, " healthy " or otherwise. you folks need some perspective. 'cause there are very, very few perfect ones among you. and besides...if eating raw isnt enough to fortify the body against something so small...what are we doing it for anyway? peace anna On 6/4/07, Dobby the house elf <dobeythehouseelf wrote: > > This is true... WHY oh WHY would you want to use ANY ARTIFICIAL sweetener? > > I will not use any of the little packets...not the blue one, the pink > one or the yellow one. > > These are all terrible and loaded with chemicals and are terribly > harsh on your kidneys! > > I wont use anything with ASPARTAME in it either. > > Why does the FDA continue to let them put these chemicals in > food...not that anything that uses these chemicals can be considered > food...but lets face it, a majority of the people are consuming these > foods and are not told about some of these chemicals, not that I think it would stop most of them. > > Its a shame they couldn't find a cheap safe sweetener to use. I used > to love chewing gum, and occasionally I would love to indulge in a > piece, but I wont use the sugary kind, and all the sugar free ones use > aspartame. I did find one brand at sunflower market that was all > organic and had no artificial sweeteners in it, but it did not chew > like gum...it dissolved into this gritty gooey mess and tasted horrid! > > So I give up on the gum search! LOL.. > > And continue to wonder about artificial sweeteners....and how long it > will take for people to wake up! > > > > > *********************************** > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the > laboratory to be an insecticide. > > > > ********************** > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see > what's on, when. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 exactly...its a process...no one is going to do this perfectly. really, how many juliano's are in this email group? everyone here is moving forward little by little...there are going to be trade offs, adjustments, estimates, full-on failures, and just plain being human. im not one to sweat the small stuff...i have made so many changes in my food that i am wwaaayyy ahead, even including a few packets of whatever in a week. life was meant to be enjoyed,,and if once a month i break down and do fast food..and i enjoy it (altho lately the disgusting feeling after can not be called enjoyment) then so be it... how is torturing yourself over a few specks of dust an improvement? thats not life... thats already living like youre dead. now for those of you that enjoy that kind of attention to detail, more power to you.. i remind everyone that the longest lived people on the planet are NOT raw foodists. so there is no reason, for me personally, to be anal about tiny things. peace anna On 6/4/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote: > > I so completely agree what you said about the poisons and toxins in our > everyday products. About a year ago I started finding and reading about > all > the bad stuff in shampoo, lotions, toothpastes and so on. I just about > made > myself crazy and broke trying to find alternatives for every single > product. > I finally decided to make as many changes as I could and just live with > the > fact that I can never have a completely poison and chemical free life. I > changed my shampoo, conditioner, soap, toothpaste, deodorant, household > cleaning products and maybe one or two other things and have just decided > that it will have to be enough!!! I was literally reading every label and > freaking out LOL!!! > > I have decided to make my raw living the same way. I'm not going to spend > every second of the day trying to become completely raw, but rather make > slow and gradual changes as my life style allows. I'm about 50% right now > and hope that with the growing season in full swing to get the percentage > a > little higher. We'll see how it goes!! > > Have a wonderful day and thanks for sharing!! > > Caroline > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > Of > Anna Bishop > Monday, June 04, 2007 1:05 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > the 6th paragraph, answers the first. > > here are 2 reasons i would figure that folks (including myself sometimes) > use these products (altho i only use splenda) > > 1- people use these products to keep calories low, thinking of saving > calories, then they get used to using them. > 2- people use these products because they have issues with sugar, like > hypoglycemia (like me) or diabetes. > > in my situation where i would use agave nectar for something at home, i > can > not at work....i dont store agave at work....and wouldnt want to. > but theyve got lots and lots of multi-colored packets...so i grab one or > two.... > > i don't have it at home..dont have anything artificial at home... > > i will not become so paranoid that 2 packets of splenda occassionally are > going to hurt me, while eating an otherwise exceptional diet that has > fortified my system against assaults from splenda in the first place. > > i am certain that those of you that use shampoo daily dont worry about the > fact that its engine degreaser that youre using, and that your scalp pores > are the biggest on your body. > > or that deodarants and antipersperants get *inside* you through your arm > pits contributing to breast cancer. > > or worry that the flouride in your toothpaste, a by product of the > aluminum > can making process, is going to poison you... > > or have bothered to take out your mercury/silver fillings...(now THERE is > poison)... > > we are bombarded daily by assaults to our bodies...not just by SAD but by > chemicals eeevveerryywwhheerrreee...and how many of you really, and truly, > have switched to 100% green products??? air, water, food, cleaning > products, beauty products, hygiene products..c'mon. > > ....if i had to choose my poison..and i do get to choose...we all do....i > think 2 packets twice a week on average, is the smarter choice over 7-8 > fast > food meals in a week, which incidently is what i had gotten to before i > switched to 80-90% raw. > > the splenda helps boost the flavor of an otherwise unpleasant, but raw, > combination of flavors, either on bitter fruits or in a smoothie with > extra > strong greens....if im ONLY taking in 4 packets a week compared to the > POUNDS of salt, grease, and god knows what in the fast food that i am > replacing with these raw foods, then i am wwwaaayyy ahead of the vvvaaasst > majority of people, " healthy " or otherwise. > > you folks need some perspective. 'cause there are very, very few perfect > ones among you. > > and besides...if eating raw isnt enough to fortify the body against > something so small...what are we doing it for anyway? > > peace > anna > > > > > On 6/4/07, Dobby the house elf <dobeythehouseelf wrote: > > > > This is true... WHY oh WHY would you want to use ANY ARTIFICIAL > sweetener? > > > > I will not use any of the little packets...not the blue one, the pink > > one or the yellow one. > > > > These are all terrible and loaded with chemicals and are terribly > > harsh on your kidneys! > > > > I wont use anything with ASPARTAME in it either. > > > > Why does the FDA continue to let them put these chemicals in > > food...not that anything that uses these chemicals can be considered > > food...but lets face it, a majority of the people are consuming these > > foods and are not told about some of these chemicals, not that I think > it > would stop most of them. > > > > Its a shame they couldn't find a cheap safe sweetener to use. I used > > to love chewing gum, and occasionally I would love to indulge in a > > piece, but I wont use the sugary kind, and all the sugar free ones use > > aspartame. I did find one brand at sunflower market that was all > > organic and had no artificial sweeteners in it, but it did not chew > > like gum...it dissolved into this gritty gooey mess and tasted horrid! > > > > So I give up on the gum search! LOL.. > > > > And continue to wonder about artificial sweeteners....and how long it > > will take for people to wake up! > > > > > > > > > > *********************************** > > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the > > laboratory to be an insecticide. > > > > > > > > ********************** > > > > > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see > > what's on, when. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 I am new and havent posted yet to this group but I just wanted to suggest, if it hasnt been already lol, that instead of splenda, there are small packets or liquid versions of the herb stevia, which is a natural sweetener and doesnt affect sugar levels. The taste does take some getting used to, as anything.. I'm sorry if someone already suggested this. Thanks Tiffany rawfood , " Caroline G Gomes " <cggomes > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Anna Bishop > Monday, June 04, 2007 1:05 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > the 6th paragraph, answers the first. > > here are 2 reasons i would figure that folks (including myself sometimes) > use these products (altho i only use splenda) > > 1- people use these products to keep calories low, thinking of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 thanks tiffany.. i personally dont like the bitterness of stevia..but i understand its a great option... thx anna On 6/5/07, Dragonfly <myst1kst0rm wrote: > > I am new and havent posted yet to this group but I just wanted to > suggest, if it hasnt been already lol, that instead of splenda, there > are small packets or liquid versions of the herb stevia, which is a > natural sweetener and doesnt affect sugar levels. The taste does take > some getting used to, as anything.. > I'm sorry if someone already suggested this. Thanks > Tiffany > rawfood , " Caroline G Gomes " <cggomes > > > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On > Behalf Of > > Anna Bishop > > Monday, June 04, 2007 1:05 PM > > rawfood > > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > > > the 6th paragraph, answers the first. > > > > here are 2 reasons i would figure that folks (including myself > sometimes) > > use these products (altho i only use splenda) > > > > 1- people use these products to keep calories low, thinking of > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I totally agree with you Anna. LOL....I was thinking as soon as I read that line........why the heck would he taste an INSECTICIDE???? I would have questioned " UH...dude...you want me to TASTE?? or do you mean test? lol I thinks these " chemists " are " sniffing or snorting " too much of their " insecticide " . lol Jeannie. your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Sunday, June 3, 2007 11:30:44 PM Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! oh youre not gonna like this.... guilty of splenda use here too.... this story sounds amazingly similar to the story of how aspartame was discovered... another " accidental tasting " .. i have to ask.... ...if this guy was working on it as such a ppoowweerrful insecticide..why in the world would he be so quick to taste it even if his coworker DID tell him to???....why didnt he say " nooooo waaayyy this is a pppoowweerrffuull insecticide!! " ...didnt he think it was dangerous... didnt he stop to think he had to have heard it wrong......?? the first paragraph says the chemists would never use it themselves 'cause its sooo dangerous...then we see in the next paragraph a chemist HAD used it and without fear! theres something very odd about this story...lets put on our critical thinking caps... if someone told me a story like this at my job (police) i would say theyre lying and tear it apart...it just doesnt have the ring of truth to it... that doesnt mean that splenda is good...it might very well be poison...probably is.. but this story reeks.... " on a late-summer day " ..gggeeezzzz....what is this, poetry? it reads like Flannery O'conner for heavens sake... ....maybe theyre just hiring romance novelists to write press releases now..... anyway....calling it an insecticide only tells me that insects have a problem with it... slugs die when you pour salt on them..they actually dissolve..so salt is equivalent to hydrochloric acid then? humans shouldnt have any? not even a little tiny envelope of it? and ants haaate coffee grounds....oooo now thats scary...dont even THINK of touching my morning coffee.... i keep my use of it to a minimum, because its man-made..that by itself makes me doubt its safety...but this story sounds like it was written by the people at *Equal.* sorry....i just haaate being snowed...it makes me kook.. anna On 6/3/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory > to > be an insecticide. Scientists were experimenting in making molecules > identical to common complex powerful insecticides and just tweaking an > atom > here or there. Most flavor chemists (who will attest to its being tested > safe for food use and put it in food) will not use it personally because > of > it sinister chemical composition. (Source: New Yorker, The Search for > Sweet > by Burkhard Bilger May 22, 2006.) > > www.moleculeoftheday.com/category/food/page/2/ > " Sucralose was discovered in 1976 by scientists from Tate & Lyle, working > with researchers at Queen Elizabeth College (now part of King's College > London). It was discovered by Leslie Hough and a young Indian chemist > Shashikant Phadnis. The duo were trying to make an insecticide. On a > late-summer day, Phadnis was told to test the powder. Phadnis thought that > Leslie asked him to taste it; so he did. He found the compound to be > ridiculously sweet (the final formula was 600 times sweeter than sugar). " > > Whenever someone asks me for Splenda, I always ask the same question, " You > do realize that it was originally created for use as insecticide? " > > ______ > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > Of > kerri > Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:24 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] What a wonderful day... > > <snip> > > pitted dates, 8 packets stevia (or splenda), 3 tablespoons cocoa, and 14 > ice > cubes. It makes about 4 cups. > > </snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Wow....I couldn't have said it better. LOL Awesome and how true. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Monday, June 4, 2007 12:04:49 PM Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! the 6th paragraph, answers the first. here are 2 reasons i would figure that folks (including myself sometimes) use these products (altho i only use splenda) 1- people use these products to keep calories low, thinking of saving calories, then they get used to using them. 2- people use these products because they have issues with sugar, like hypoglycemia (like me) or diabetes. in my situation where i would use agave nectar for something at home, i can not at work....i dont store agave at work....and wouldnt want to. but theyve got lots and lots of multi-colored packets...so i grab one or two.... i don't have it at home..dont have anything artificial at home... i will not become so paranoid that 2 packets of splenda occassionally are going to hurt me, while eating an otherwise exceptional diet that has fortified my system against assaults from splenda in the first place. i am certain that those of you that use shampoo daily dont worry about the fact that its engine degreaser that youre using, and that your scalp pores are the biggest on your body. or that deodarants and antipersperants get *inside* you through your arm pits contributing to breast cancer. or worry that the flouride in your toothpaste, a by product of the aluminum can making process, is going to poison you... or have bothered to take out your mercury/silver fillings...(now THERE is poison)... we are bombarded daily by assaults to our bodies...not just by SAD but by chemicals eeevveerryywwhheerrreee...and how many of you really, and truly, have switched to 100% green products??? air, water, food, cleaning products, beauty products, hygiene products..c'mon. .....if i had to choose my poison..and i do get to choose...we all do....i think 2 packets twice a week on average, is the smarter choice over 7-8 fast food meals in a week, which incidently is what i had gotten to before i switched to 80-90% raw. the splenda helps boost the flavor of an otherwise unpleasant, but raw, combination of flavors, either on bitter fruits or in a smoothie with extra strong greens....if im ONLY taking in 4 packets a week compared to the POUNDS of salt, grease, and god knows what in the fast food that i am replacing with these raw foods, then i am wwwaaayyy ahead of the vvvaaasst majority of people, " healthy " or otherwise. you folks need some perspective. 'cause there are very, very few perfect ones among you. and besides...if eating raw isnt enough to fortify the body against something so small...what are we doing it for anyway? peace anna On 6/4/07, Dobby the house elf <dobeythehouseelf wrote: > > This is true... WHY oh WHY would you want to use ANY ARTIFICIAL sweetener? > > I will not use any of the little packets...not the blue one, the pink one > or the yellow one. > > These are all terrible and loaded with chemicals and are terribly harsh on > your kidneys! > > I wont use anything with ASPARTAME in it either. > > Why does the FDA continue to let them put these chemicals in food...not > that anything that uses these chemicals can be considered food...but lets > face it, a majority of the people are consuming these foods and are not told > about some of these chemicals, not that I think it would stop most of them. > > Its a shame they couldn't find a cheap safe sweetener to use. I used to > love chewing gum, and occasionally I would love to indulge in a piece, but I > wont use the sugary kind, and all the sugar free ones use aspartame. I did > find one brand at sunflower market that was all organic and had no > artificial sweeteners in it, but it did not chew like gum...it dissolved > into this gritty gooey mess and tasted horrid! > > So I give up on the gum search! LOL.. > > And continue to wonder about artificial sweeteners....and how long it will > take for people to wake up! > > > > > *********************************** > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory > to > be an insecticide. > > > > ********************** > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's > on, when. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Anna, I seem to be on the same page as you on lots of things. I totally agree. I think that any " extreme " is not good. One can be compulsive in anything. I have boxes of splenda in my pantry from when I used to use it all the time. I actually " fell off the wagon " today. Not by choice but by accident. At work we have reps bring lunch from time to time. I had ordered a greek salad, thinking it would be safe. Ha! Just my luck. It came with grilled chicken on it. Who, in the world puts grilled chicken on a greek salad? I never would have guessed. Well, did I take it off? NOOOOOOOOOO....What did I do? I did contemplate not eating it. I could not see tossing it out and my mouth began watering. I WANTED it. I ended up, eating it, against my better judgement. I did feel guilty for a little while. Not for long. lol I don't feel guilty now. I will just get back on the wagon tomorrow and try to get back to eating raw again. I am not perfect. I still love the world of sad. I have to be honest. I am enjoying the raw lifestyle. I am enjoying the pursuit of health via the raw lifestyle. However, if I do venture off, fall off the wagon, if you will, it won't be the end of the world for me. I will simply get back on the wagon. A little splenda now and then won't bother me. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Monday, June 4, 2007 3:22:39 PM Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! exactly...its a process...no one is going to do this perfectly. really, how many juliano's are in this email group? everyone here is moving forward little by little...there are going to be trade offs, adjustments, estimates, full-on failures, and just plain being human. im not one to sweat the small stuff...i have made so many changes in my food that i am wwaaayyy ahead, even including a few packets of whatever in a week. life was meant to be enjoyed,,and if once a month i break down and do fast food..and i enjoy it (altho lately the disgusting feeling after can not be called enjoyment) then so be it... how is torturing yourself over a few specks of dust an improvement? thats not life... thats already living like youre dead. now for those of you that enjoy that kind of attention to detail, more power to you.. i remind everyone that the longest lived people on the planet are NOT raw foodists. so there is no reason, for me personally, to be anal about tiny things. peace anna On 6/4/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote: > > I so completely agree what you said about the poisons and toxins in our > everyday products. About a year ago I started finding and reading about > all > the bad stuff in shampoo, lotions, toothpastes and so on. I just about > made > myself crazy and broke trying to find alternatives for every single > product. > I finally decided to make as many changes as I could and just live with > the > fact that I can never have a completely poison and chemical free life. I > changed my shampoo, conditioner, soap, toothpaste, deodorant, household > cleaning products and maybe one or two other things and have just decided > that it will have to be enough!!! I was literally reading every label and > freaking out LOL!!! > > I have decided to make my raw living the same way. I'm not going to spend > every second of the day trying to become completely raw, but rather make > slow and gradual changes as my life style allows. I'm about 50% right now > and hope that with the growing season in full swing to get the percentage > a > little higher. We'll see how it goes!! > > Have a wonderful day and thanks for sharing!! > > Caroline > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > Of > Anna Bishop > Monday, June 04, 2007 1:05 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > the 6th paragraph, answers the first. > > here are 2 reasons i would figure that folks (including myself sometimes) > use these products (altho i only use splenda) > > 1- people use these products to keep calories low, thinking of saving > calories, then they get used to using them. > 2- people use these products because they have issues with sugar, like > hypoglycemia (like me) or diabetes. > > in my situation where i would use agave nectar for something at home, i > can > not at work....i dont store agave at work....and wouldnt want to. > but theyve got lots and lots of multi-colored packets...so i grab one or > two.... > > i don't have it at home..dont have anything artificial at home... > > i will not become so paranoid that 2 packets of splenda occassionally are > going to hurt me, while eating an otherwise exceptional diet that has > fortified my system against assaults from splenda in the first place. > > i am certain that those of you that use shampoo daily dont worry about the > fact that its engine degreaser that youre using, and that your scalp pores > are the biggest on your body. > > or that deodarants and antipersperants get *inside* you through your arm > pits contributing to breast cancer. > > or worry that the flouride in your toothpaste, a by product of the > aluminum > can making process, is going to poison you... > > or have bothered to take out your mercury/silver fillings...(now THERE is > poison)... > > we are bombarded daily by assaults to our bodies...not just by SAD but by > chemicals eeevveerryywwhheerrreee...and how many of you really, and truly, > have switched to 100% green products??? air, water, food, cleaning > products, beauty products, hygiene products..c'mon. > > ....if i had to choose my poison..and i do get to choose...we all do....i > think 2 packets twice a week on average, is the smarter choice over 7-8 > fast > food meals in a week, which incidently is what i had gotten to before i > switched to 80-90% raw. > > the splenda helps boost the flavor of an otherwise unpleasant, but raw, > combination of flavors, either on bitter fruits or in a smoothie with > extra > strong greens....if im ONLY taking in 4 packets a week compared to the > POUNDS of salt, grease, and god knows what in the fast food that i am > replacing with these raw foods, then i am wwwaaayyy ahead of the vvvaaasst > majority of people, " healthy " or otherwise. > > you folks need some perspective. 'cause there are very, very few perfect > ones among you. > > and besides...if eating raw isnt enough to fortify the body against > something so small...what are we doing it for anyway? > > peace > anna > > > > > On 6/4/07, Dobby the house elf <dobeythehouseelf wrote: > > > > This is true... WHY oh WHY would you want to use ANY ARTIFICIAL > sweetener? > > > > I will not use any of the little packets...not the blue one, the pink > > one or the yellow one. > > > > These are all terrible and loaded with chemicals and are terribly > > harsh on your kidneys! > > > > I wont use anything with ASPARTAME in it either. > > > > Why does the FDA continue to let them put these chemicals in > > food...not that anything that uses these chemicals can be considered > > food...but lets face it, a majority of the people are consuming these > > foods and are not told about some of these chemicals, not that I think > it > would stop most of them. > > > > Its a shame they couldn't find a cheap safe sweetener to use. I used > > to love chewing gum, and occasionally I would love to indulge in a > > piece, but I wont use the sugary kind, and all the sugar free ones use > > aspartame. I did find one brand at sunflower market that was all > > organic and had no artificial sweeteners in it, but it did not chew > > like gum...it dissolved into this gritty gooey mess and tasted horrid! > > > > So I give up on the gum search! LOL.. > > > > And continue to wonder about artificial sweeteners....and how long it > > will take for people to wake up! > > > > > > > > > > *********************************** > > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the > > laboratory to be an insecticide. > > > > > > > > ********************** > > > > > > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see > > what's on, when. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 lol..thats funny... the story might be true..but the way it was written was ridiculous...i still think the tasting was idiotic... but who am i? thanks for your support on the other comments..you add a really funny spin to what i write... peace anna On 6/5/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > I totally agree with you Anna. > > LOL....I was thinking as soon as I read that line........why the heck would > he taste an INSECTICIDE???? I would have questioned " UH...dude...you want > me to TASTE?? or do you mean test? lol > > I thinks these " chemists " are " sniffing or snorting " too much of their > " insecticide " . lol > > Jeannie. > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Sunday, June 3, 2007 11:30:44 PM > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > > oh youre not gonna like this.... > > guilty of splenda use here too.... > > this story sounds amazingly similar to the story of how aspartame was > discovered... > another " accidental tasting " .. > > i have to ask.... > > ..if this guy was working on it as such a ppoowweerrful insecticide..why in > the world would > he be so quick to taste it even if his coworker DID tell him to???....why > didnt he say > " nooooo waaayyy this is a pppoowweerrffuull insecticide!! " ...didnt he think > it was dangerous... > didnt he stop to think he had to have heard it wrong......?? the first > paragraph says > the chemists would never use it themselves 'cause its sooo dangerous...then > we see > in the next paragraph a chemist HAD used it and without fear! > > theres something very odd about this story...lets put on our critical > thinking caps... > > if someone told me a story like this at my job (police) i would say theyre > lying and > tear it apart...it just doesnt have the ring of truth to it... > > that doesnt mean that splenda is good...it might very well be > poison...probably is.. > > but this story reeks.... " on a late-summer day " ..gggeeezzzz....what is this, > poetry? > it reads like Flannery O'conner for heavens sake... > > ...maybe theyre just hiring romance novelists to write press releases > now..... > > anyway....calling it an insecticide only tells me that insects have a > problem with it... > slugs die when you pour salt on them..they actually dissolve..so salt is > equivalent to > hydrochloric acid then? humans shouldnt have any? not even a little tiny > envelope > of it? and ants haaate coffee grounds....oooo now thats scary...dont even > THINK > of touching my morning coffee.... > > i keep my use of it to a minimum, because its man-made..that by itself makes > me > doubt its safety...but this story sounds like it was written by the people > at *Equal.* > > sorry....i just haaate being snowed...it makes me kook.. > > > anna > > > > > On 6/3/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > > > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory > > to > > be an insecticide. Scientists were experimenting in making molecules > > identical to common complex powerful insecticides and just tweaking an > > atom > > here or there. Most flavor chemists (who will attest to its being tested > > safe for food use and put it in food) will not use it personally because > > of > > it sinister chemical composition. (Source: New Yorker, The Search for > > Sweet > > by Burkhard Bilger May 22, 2006.) > > > > www.moleculeoftheday.com/category/food/page/2/ > > " Sucralose was discovered in 1976 by scientists from Tate & Lyle, working > > with researchers at Queen Elizabeth College (now part of King's College > > London). It was discovered by Leslie Hough and a young Indian chemist > > Shashikant Phadnis. The duo were trying to make an insecticide. On a > > late-summer day, Phadnis was told to test the powder. Phadnis thought that > > Leslie asked him to taste it; so he did. He found the compound to be > > ridiculously sweet (the final formula was 600 times sweeter than sugar). " > > > > Whenever someone asks me for Splenda, I always ask the same question, " You > > do realize that it was originally created for use as insecticide? " > > > > ______ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > > Of > > kerri > > Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:24 PM > > rawfood > > [Raw Food] What a wonderful day... > > > > <snip> > > > > pitted dates, 8 packets stevia (or splenda), 3 tablespoons cocoa, and 14 > > ice > > cubes. It makes about 4 cups. > > > > </snip> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Sorry to offend you and your friend Jeannie with my ridiculous writing. I will stop posting to this list. And Anna - Jeannie, PLEASE, eat all the splenda you can. After all that what this list is about. ______ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:50 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! lol..thats funny... the story might be true..but the way it was written was ridiculous...i still think the tasting was idiotic... but who am i? thanks for your support on the other comments..you add a really funny spin to what i write... peace anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 tom, you didnt author that story...why are you offended? was that not a quote out of the sources mentioned that carried those stories? im very confused....i saw quotes around the paragraphs... and dont stop posting, youre reacting to something completely wrong...i didnt say anything about YOU being ridiculous.... as for the splenda though, we will use what we see fit..it is our right,,,but that should hardly make you stop posting. thats kind of an overreaction dont ya think? 8-/ ?? anna <very confused> On 6/6/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > Sorry to offend you and your friend Jeannie with my ridiculous writing. > > I will stop posting to this list. > > And Anna - Jeannie, PLEASE, eat all the splenda you can. After all that > what this list is about. > > > ______ > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > Of > Anna Bishop > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:50 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > lol..thats funny... > > the story might be true..but the way it was written was ridiculous...i > still think the tasting was idiotic... > > but who am i? > > thanks for your support on the other comments..you add a really funny > spin to what i write... > > peace > anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 yw! your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Wednesday, June 6, 2007 9:50:27 AM Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! lol..thats funny... the story might be true..but the way it was written was ridiculous...i still think the tasting was idiotic... but who am i? thanks for your support on the other comments..you add a really funny spin to what i write... peace anna On 6/5/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > I totally agree with you Anna. > > LOL....I was thinking as soon as I read that line........why the heck would > he taste an INSECTICIDE???? I would have questioned " UH...dude...you want > me to TASTE?? or do you mean test? lol > > I thinks these " chemists " are " sniffing or snorting " too much of their > " insecticide " . lol > > Jeannie. > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Sunday, June 3, 2007 11:30:44 PM > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > > oh youre not gonna like this.... > > guilty of splenda use here too.... > > this story sounds amazingly similar to the story of how aspartame was > discovered... > another " accidental tasting " .. > > i have to ask.... > > ..if this guy was working on it as such a ppoowweerrful insecticide..why in > the world would > he be so quick to taste it even if his coworker DID tell him to???....why > didnt he say > " nooooo waaayyy this is a pppoowweerrffuull insecticide!! " ...didnt he think > it was dangerous... > didnt he stop to think he had to have heard it wrong......?? the first > paragraph says > the chemists would never use it themselves 'cause its sooo dangerous...then > we see > in the next paragraph a chemist HAD used it and without fear! > > theres something very odd about this story...lets put on our critical > thinking caps... > > if someone told me a story like this at my job (police) i would say theyre > lying and > tear it apart...it just doesnt have the ring of truth to it... > > that doesnt mean that splenda is good...it might very well be > poison...probably is.. > > but this story reeks.... " on a late-summer day " ..gggeeezzzz....what is this, > poetry? > it reads like Flannery O'conner for heavens sake... > > ...maybe theyre just hiring romance novelists to write press releases > now..... > > anyway....calling it an insecticide only tells me that insects have a > problem with it... > slugs die when you pour salt on them..they actually dissolve..so salt is > equivalent to > hydrochloric acid then? humans shouldnt have any? not even a little tiny > envelope > of it? and ants haaate coffee grounds....oooo now thats scary...dont even > THINK > of touching my morning coffee.... > > i keep my use of it to a minimum, because its man-made..that by itself makes > me > doubt its safety...but this story sounds like it was written by the people > at *Equal.* > > sorry....i just haaate being snowed...it makes me kook.. > > > anna > > > > > On 6/3/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > > > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory > > to > > be an insecticide. Scientists were experimenting in making molecules > > identical to common complex powerful insecticides and just tweaking an > > atom > > here or there. Most flavor chemists (who will attest to its being tested > > safe for food use and put it in food) will not use it personally because > > of > > it sinister chemical composition. (Source: New Yorker, The Search for > > Sweet > > by Burkhard Bilger May 22, 2006.) > > > > www.moleculeoftheday.com/category/food/page/2/ > > " Sucralose was discovered in 1976 by scientists from Tate & Lyle, working > > with researchers at Queen Elizabeth College (now part of King's College > > London). It was discovered by Leslie Hough and a young Indian chemist > > Shashikant Phadnis. The duo were trying to make an insecticide. On a > > late-summer day, Phadnis was told to test the powder. Phadnis thought that > > Leslie asked him to taste it; so he did. He found the compound to be > > ridiculously sweet (the final formula was 600 times sweeter than sugar). " > > > > Whenever someone asks me for Splenda, I always ask the same question, " You > > do realize that it was originally created for use as insecticide? " > > > > ______ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > > Of > > kerri > > Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:24 PM > > rawfood > > [Raw Food] What a wonderful day... > > > > <snip> > > > > pitted dates, 8 packets stevia (or splenda), 3 tablespoons cocoa, and 14 > > ice > > cubes. It makes about 4 cups. > > > > </snip> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 im afraid jeannie that i dont understand the meaning yw.... but it should be clear to anyone that reads the thread that i was commenting on the quoted paragraphs. quotes mean youre taking something SOMEONE ELSE said.....i can make fun of that all day long. if ones ego is so tender that they take offense when someone critizes A QUOTED AUTHOR because they chose the quote....well thats paranoid thinking..and i have nothing to do with that. carry your own baggage. This homey dont play dat. peace anna On 6/6/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > yw! > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Wednesday, June 6, 2007 9:50:27 AM > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > > lol..thats funny... > > the story might be true..but the way it was written was ridiculous...i > still think the tasting was idiotic... > > but who am i? > > thanks for your support on the other comments..you add a really funny > spin to what i write... > > peace > anna > > On 6/5/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > I totally agree with you Anna. > > > > LOL....I was thinking as soon as I read that line........why the heck > would > > he taste an INSECTICIDE???? I would have questioned " UH...dude...you want > > me to TASTE?? or do you mean test? lol > > > > I thinks these " chemists " are " sniffing or snorting " too much of their > > " insecticide " . lol > > > > Jeannie. > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no > one. > > > > > > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > > rawfood > > Sunday, June 3, 2007 11:30:44 PM > > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > > > > > oh youre not gonna like this.... > > > > guilty of splenda use here too.... > > > > this story sounds amazingly similar to the story of how aspartame was > > discovered... > > another " accidental tasting " .. > > > > i have to ask.... > > > > ..if this guy was working on it as such a ppoowweerrful insecticide..why > in > > the world would > > he be so quick to taste it even if his coworker DID tell him to???....why > > didnt he say > > " nooooo waaayyy this is a pppoowweerrffuull insecticide!! " ...didnt he > think > > it was dangerous... > > didnt he stop to think he had to have heard it wrong......?? the first > > paragraph says > > the chemists would never use it themselves 'cause its sooo > dangerous...then > > we see > > in the next paragraph a chemist HAD used it and without fear! > > > > theres something very odd about this story...lets put on our critical > > thinking caps... > > > > if someone told me a story like this at my job (police) i would say theyre > > lying and > > tear it apart...it just doesnt have the ring of truth to it... > > > > that doesnt mean that splenda is good...it might very well be > > poison...probably is.. > > > > but this story reeks.... " on a late-summer day " ..gggeeezzzz....what is > this, > > poetry? > > it reads like Flannery O'conner for heavens sake... > > > > ...maybe theyre just hiring romance novelists to write press releases > > now..... > > > > anyway....calling it an insecticide only tells me that insects have a > > problem with it... > > slugs die when you pour salt on them..they actually dissolve..so salt is > > equivalent to > > hydrochloric acid then? humans shouldnt have any? not even a little tiny > > envelope > > of it? and ants haaate coffee grounds....oooo now thats scary...dont even > > THINK > > of touching my morning coffee.... > > > > i keep my use of it to a minimum, because its man-made..that by itself > makes > > me > > doubt its safety...but this story sounds like it was written by the people > > at *Equal.* > > > > sorry....i just haaate being snowed...it makes me kook.. > > > > > > anna > > > > > > > > > > On 6/3/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > > > > > Why would anyone put splenda in anything? > > > > > > Sucralose, the base of splenda, was originally created in the laboratory > > > to > > > be an insecticide. Scientists were experimenting in making molecules > > > identical to common complex powerful insecticides and just tweaking an > > > atom > > > here or there. Most flavor chemists (who will attest to its being tested > > > safe for food use and put it in food) will not use it personally because > > > of > > > it sinister chemical composition. (Source: New Yorker, The Search for > > > Sweet > > > by Burkhard Bilger May 22, 2006.) > > > > > > www.moleculeoftheday.com/category/food/page/2/ > > > " Sucralose was discovered in 1976 by scientists from Tate & Lyle, > working > > > with researchers at Queen Elizabeth College (now part of King's College > > > London). It was discovered by Leslie Hough and a young Indian chemist > > > Shashikant Phadnis. The duo were trying to make an insecticide. On a > > > late-summer day, Phadnis was told to test the powder. Phadnis thought > that > > > Leslie asked him to taste it; so he did. He found the compound to be > > > ridiculously sweet (the final formula was 600 times sweeter than sugar). > " > > > > > > Whenever someone asks me for Splenda, I always ask the same question, > " You > > > do realize that it was originally created for use as insecticide? " > > > > > > ______ > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > > > Of > > > kerri > > > Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:24 PM > > > rawfood > > > [Raw Food] What a wonderful day... > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > pitted dates, 8 packets stevia (or splenda), 3 tablespoons cocoa, and 14 > > > ice > > > cubes. It makes about 4 cups. > > > > > > </snip> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Tom, Me thinks one needs to lighten up a bit............. Oh and I invite you to be my friend too. We can never have too many friends. I think that is what brings us to the wonderful group. The desire to learn and grow in the world of raw. We come here to share thoughts and ideas. And to learn from one another. It is ok to agree AS WELL AS disagree. I see no reason to be so thinned skinned as to be overly offended at comments that are made. I haven't seen any " personal attacks " on anyone. Jeannie P. S. (my apologies to any actual thinned skinned people out there) your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:46:19 PM Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! tom, you didnt author that story...why are you offended? was that not a quote out of the sources mentioned that carried those stories? im very confused....i saw quotes around the paragraphs... and dont stop posting, youre reacting to something completely wrong...i didnt say anything about YOU being ridiculous.... as for the splenda though, we will use what we see fit..it is our right,,,but that should hardly make you stop posting. thats kind of an overreaction dont ya think? 8-/ ?? anna <very confused> On 6/6/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > Sorry to offend you and your friend Jeannie with my ridiculous writing. > > I will stop posting to this list. > > And Anna - Jeannie, PLEASE, eat all the splenda you can. After all that > what this list is about. > > > ______ > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > Of > Anna Bishop > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:50 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > lol..thats funny... > > the story might be true..but the way it was written was ridiculous...i > still think the tasting was idiotic... > > but who am i? > > thanks for your support on the other comments..you add a really funny > spin to what i write... > > peace > anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 yea tom... i think you make little booboo... we have fun here...jump in for some! anna On 6/7/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > Tom, > > Me thinks one needs to lighten up a bit............. > > Oh and I invite you to be my friend too. We can never have too many > friends. I think that is what brings us to the wonderful group. The desire > to learn and grow in the world of raw. We come here to share thoughts and > ideas. And to learn from one another. It is ok to agree AS WELL AS disagree. > > I see no reason to be so thinned skinned as to be overly offended at > comments that are made. I haven't seen any " personal attacks " on anyone. > > > Jeannie > > P. S. (my apologies to any actual thinned skinned people out there) > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:46:19 PM > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > > tom, > > you didnt author that story...why are you offended? > > was that not a quote out of the sources mentioned that carried > those stories? > > im very confused....i saw quotes around the paragraphs... > > and dont stop posting, youre reacting to something completely > wrong...i didnt say anything about YOU being ridiculous.... > > as for the splenda though, we will use what we see fit..it is > our right,,,but that should hardly make you stop posting. > > thats kind of an overreaction dont ya think? > > 8-/ ?? > > anna > <very confused> > > > On 6/6/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > > > Sorry to offend you and your friend Jeannie with my ridiculous writing. > > > > I will stop posting to this list. > > > > And Anna - Jeannie, PLEASE, eat all the splenda you can. After all that > > what this list is about. > > > > > > ______ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > > Of > > Anna Bishop > > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:50 AM > > rawfood > > Re: [Raw Food] SPLENDA?!?! > > > > lol..thats funny... > > > > the story might be true..but the way it was written was ridiculous...i > > still think the tasting was idiotic... > > > > but who am i? > > > > thanks for your support on the other comments..you add a really funny > > spin to what i write... > > > > peace > > anna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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