Fruits and candida [Blood-sugar, Post listing]

[Guest guest]

HI everyone,

 

This approach, while popular, is literally impossible. You cannot kill " all "

the candida within you, without killing yourself. Further, most candida

diagnoses are incorrect. Even when there is such a problem, fruit is never

the cause, therefore removing fruit is never the " cure " . As with all

problems, correcting the cause is the " cure " .

 

Blood-sugar problems, in general, arise from elevated blood fat, caused by a

high-fat diet. Common names for such problems are diabetes, chronic fatigue,

candida, insulin resistance, hyper/hypoglycemia.

 

Almost all RF teachers teach a VERY high-fat diet, an alarming number of

published RF recipes provide 50-90% of calories from fat. Even the SAD only

averages about 35-40% of calories from fat, based upon a series of

frequently updated published data going back decades. You cannot double your

fat consumption and expect to fuel your system properly, any more than you

can " feed " kerosene to your car and expect it to run well. Our primary fuel

is glucose ... simple sugar, the kind found in fruits and (to a lesser

extent) in tender greens. Even when we are fasting on water alone, glucose

remains our primary fuel. Only the source changes, and we may feel grateful

for the resulting " weight loss " .

 

You can use Nutridiary or FitDay to ascertain the mix of caloric nutrients

(carbohydrates, proteins, fats) in your own diet. We have an unpublished

Nutridiary tutorial (publication coming as another of our free

teleconference / audio programs) that I am willing to share privately with

those interested ... write to me directly. This tutorial has an extensive

handout, 30+ pages containing lots of screen shots, and yes, it's free, a

service of the Path of Health Community.

 

Much has been written on this candida topic, also on " blood sugar " , in the

Raw Food group archive. For example, see posts # 29085, 29042, 29016, 29008,

27249, 26990, 26980, 18174 (cumulates several older posts), and 18173.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

The Raw Retreat

Monday, June 04, 2007 7:44 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re:Fruits and candida

 

 

Crystal,

 

Yes that's normal. To totally kill of yeast/fungus in the body you

have to totally starve it. That means no sweets.

No fruit at all.

 

<<< snip >>>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am definitely interested in the tutorial. My email is

crystalandbrock I didn't see yours on the list.

 

 

-

Elchanan

rawfood

Monday, June 04, 2007 11:05 AM

[Raw Food] Fruits and candida [blood-sugar, Post listing]

 

 

HI everyone,

 

This approach, while popular, is literally impossible. You cannot kill " all "

the candida within you, without killing yourself. Further, most candida

diagnoses are incorrect. Even when there is such a problem, fruit is never

the cause, therefore removing fruit is never the " cure " . As with all

problems, correcting the cause is the " cure " .

 

Blood-sugar problems, in general, arise from elevated blood fat, caused by a

high-fat diet. Common names for such problems are diabetes, chronic fatigue,

candida, insulin resistance, hyper/hypoglycemia.

 

Almost all RF teachers teach a VERY high-fat diet, an alarming number of

published RF recipes provide 50-90% of calories from fat. Even the SAD only

averages about 35-40% of calories from fat, based upon a series of

frequently updated published data going back decades. You cannot double your

fat consumption and expect to fuel your system properly, any more than you

can " feed " kerosene to your car and expect it to run well. Our primary fuel

is glucose ... simple sugar, the kind found in fruits and (to a lesser

extent) in tender greens. Even when we are fasting on water alone, glucose

remains our primary fuel. Only the source changes, and we may feel grateful

for the resulting " weight loss " .

 

You can use Nutridiary or FitDay to ascertain the mix of caloric nutrients

(carbohydrates, proteins, fats) in your own diet. We have an unpublished

Nutridiary tutorial (publication coming as another of our free

teleconference / audio programs) that I am willing to share privately with

those interested ... write to me directly. This tutorial has an extensive

handout, 30+ pages containing lots of screen shots, and yes, it's free, a

service of the Path of Health Community.

 

Much has been written on this candida topic, also on " blood sugar " , in the

Raw Food group archive. For example, see posts # 29085, 29042, 29016, 29008,

27249, 26990, 26980, 18174 (cumulates several older posts), and 18173.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

The Raw Retreat

Monday, June 04, 2007 7:44 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re:Fruits and candida

 

Crystal,

 

Yes that's normal. To totally kill of yeast/fungus in the body you

have to totally starve it. That means no sweets.

No fruit at all.

 

<<< snip >>>

 

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I assumed my email was somewhere in your From field. Responding

privately.

Elchanan

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Crystal and Brock

Monday, June 04, 2007 12:28 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Fruits and candida [blood-sugar, Post listing]

 

 

I am definitely interested in the tutorial. My email is crystalandbrock@

<crystalandbrock%40bellsouth.net> bellsouth.net I didn't see yours on

the list.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I've thought about this a lot, and done some additional reading

before replying here...

I want to add to this conversation in a good way...

 

First, Elchanan - you are correct - you can't kill off all the

Candida or yeast or fungus. My error in not being more careful in

choosing words. What I should have said was to bring the body back

into balance with this family of organisms so that they are no longer

causing any problems.

Good reminder. Thanks.

 

Then on to the " debate " or variety of ways to approach the fungal

type symptoms. Very low energy, ongoing bacterial activity on mucous

membranes, ongoing vaginal yeast issues, fungus growing on the skin,

toe and fingernails, etc. There's plenty of evidence that fungus and

other virus' are present with cancer and other immune system

disorders as well.

 

In my case, I had Prostate Cancer in 1999. This was after about a 10

year period of being back on SAD during which my alcoholic ancestry

became active and I did the glow drunk role for about 8 years. The

Prostate Cancer was a great wake-up call and got me back to my raw

roots. Doing black field microscope work on my blood and prostate

fluid showed a huge overabundance of white cells, fungal growths,

clumped blood cells, etc. During my work with both diet - LOTS of

green juices and spouts (plus lots of energy work, releasing a lot of

anger and frustration, forgiveness...) - the blood returned to

normal, the cancer cells went dormant. (Don't have any way to know if

they died. There are still shadows where the active tumors were on my

sonograms.) I did eat some fruit - mostly acid and sub-acid except

when emotionally eating - then I went for the sweet fruit and could

consume a lot for a few days, then would be sated and go back to the

greens and sprouts. Now, it occurs to me that those were binges -

it's possible they were die-offs of the fungus - it's possible they

were my body craving what was in those sweet fruits. I don't know.

The incidents came and went. There was always an emotional component

- but I don't know which came first... The emotions or the physical

desire.

 

My background and diet is more grounded in the Ann Wigmore paradigm

from the Hippocrates Health Institute in Boston in the early 70's.

Recently I've included more of Norman Cousin's work. At Hippocrates

Institute, they discovered that people with diabetes, fungal

imbalance, etc. didn't get 100% well until they eliminated all fruit

from their diets. My experience with people corroborates theirs.

 

I like the empirical data of the black field microscope work that

Cousin's and others have done in regard to fungal imbalance - or

Composting as he calls it. I relied on it when doing my Prostate work.

 

On the 80-10-10 diet, I personally have a reluctance to follow any

diet that includes formulas. I can't imagine our gathering ancestors

with a scale, measuring what they ate. I'm sure they ate what they

found, when in season. In some climates that would be mostly fruit.

In other climates it would be mostly greens. But, that's my bias, and

it kept me from investigating 80-10-10 when I first heard about it.

I've spent the last few days reading other people's experience with

the diet. I've read of great successes and healings and great

failures where people wound up really sick.

 

Fats: I have to agree with Elchanan about the over eating of fats. We

are accustomed to very high fat SAD food. Most raw recipe books

contain an over abundance of protein and fat recipes. I know raw

fooders that put olive oil into everything. And some appear to be

extremely healthy. These are also extremely active and so probably

burn up their high quantity of fats and sugars. However, I'm not

willing to concede that THE problem is fat. Perhaps the problem - or

the issue is balance. Whether you are on a primarily fruit or

primarily green diet, there seems to be a point where the body

balances and thrives.

 

We teach learning to listen to the body and learning to do what

works, not following a formula or tracking calories or ounces or...

What we do is support people in discovering how to eat the foods in

the quantities that leave them feeling energetic, feeling light and

open, that have them wake up bright with clear saliva, that don't

cause fermentation during digestion, that have their body smelling

clean. It's a process of experimentation... How much do they need to

pay attention to food combining? Some people need to pay strict

attention, and others seem to be able to combine anything with no

side effects. Etc. It can take a couple years to find the balance and

learn the subtle listening skills.

 

The banana diet: I've used mono diets for cleansing and giving the

digestive organs a rest. I know of people who have been primarily

fruit eaters for months as a cleanse. I've had my interest peaked by

Echanan and friends at PathOfHealth. More information is always good.

More options are always good.

 

What I'm left with is that we are all individuals. What works for

one, may not be exactly what works for others. When the biological

terrain stabilizes and one has food cravings, people tend to go in

one of three directions - fats, proteins or sugars. Each person tends

to have one of the three predominate. Don't know why. Just an

observation. We are similar but different organisms with different

genetic and emotional and energy and chemical histories. Each on our

own path to wholeness and health. Each time I was seduced away from

being raw, there was a lesson that I needed to learn. Each return has

been more powerful and beautiful.

 

Enjoy!

 

..wyn

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