Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Jeannie, I am sorry that you have to put up with " people of other cultures " in your grocery store. Hopefully, immigration reform should solve that problem for you. Keep in mind, that there are also many people who find heavily " perfumed and deodorized " people not just unpleasant to be around but literally sickening, and can end up in the hospital from being " stuck behind those people in the line at the grocery store. " Chemically doused and saturated humans are no fun to be around either. I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, ( " other culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this hot steamy tropical environment is to eat lots of raw food and to bathe three times a day, every day. Of the 35 countries that I have visited, they were the absolutely cleanest and nicest smelling people that I have ever met. They made all Americans (myself included) seem like rank pigs doused in perfume. Just because you douse yourself with chemicals doesn't mean you smell any less; just less animal, more chemical. (I also do animal rescue work and we just lost a rescue animal (whom I was fostering) whose previous owner had doused her in " fabrize " carpet deodorizer to make her smell better. The sweet little puppy died yesterday afternoon. She is buried in my backyard.) All the best, Tom BTW, the Javanese Royal Family (next door neighbors to the Balinese) centuries ago hybridized a rare tropical fruit that when eaten supposedly eliminates all body odor and makes one's bowel movements smell like flowers. Sadhu, whom I mentioned in my earlier post, is also growing these plants on his farm as well. Perhaps, this may be a solution to this " serious " problem. ______ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h <jeannieh99 Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:18 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Why not stop using products? LOL....In my line of work, I HAVE to use deodorant every day. I have been around people that don't use deodorant on a regular basis. It is not a pretty picture. lol I find often people that think they don't need it have a problem with their sense of smell. lol There are people in other cultures that don't wear deodorants and I usually get stuck behind them in the line at the grocery store. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 tom i dont mean to speak for jeannie..but im sure she didnt mean to dis " people from other cultures " ..she was commenting on people from other cultures that " smell bad " .... there are many....but its a question of culture and what youre used to..its not a moral judgment of whos better...i agree that to other cultures WE smell terrible...we're afraid of natural odors here...a fear of our animal natures..this goes to the idea that humans are somehow superior than animals...and that comes from the arrogant view of being " made in the image of G-d " . Not that we're not..but that the culture has taken that and run with it to the point of denying we're evolved animals first...spiritual creatures second. but i digress..... when in rome do as the romans do...that way no one " offends " anyone. peace anna On 6/6/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > Jeannie, > > I am sorry that you have to put up with " people of other cultures " in your > grocery store. Hopefully, immigration reform should solve that problem for > you. > > Keep in mind, that there are also many people who find heavily " perfumed and > deodorized " people not just unpleasant to be around but literally sickening, > and can end up in the hospital from being " stuck behind those people in the > line at the grocery store. " Chemically doused and saturated humans are no > fun to be around either. > > I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, ( " other > culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this hot steamy tropical > environment is to eat lots of raw food and to bathe three times a day, every > day. Of the 35 countries that I have visited, they were the absolutely > cleanest and nicest smelling people that I have ever met. They made all > Americans (myself included) seem like rank pigs doused in perfume. > > Just because you douse yourself with chemicals doesn't mean you smell any > less; just less animal, more chemical. (I also do animal rescue work and we > just lost a rescue animal (whom I was fostering) whose previous owner had > doused her in " fabrize " carpet deodorizer to make her smell better. The > sweet little puppy died yesterday afternoon. She is buried in my backyard.) > > All the best, > Tom > > BTW, the Javanese Royal Family (next door neighbors to the Balinese) > centuries ago hybridized a rare tropical fruit that when eaten supposedly > eliminates all body odor and makes one's bowel movements smell like flowers. > Sadhu, whom I mentioned in my earlier post, is also growing these plants on > his farm as well. Perhaps, this may be a solution to this " serious " problem. > > ______ > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > jeannieh h <jeannieh99 > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:18 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Why not stop using products? > > LOL....In my line of work, I HAVE to use deodorant every day. I have been > around people that don't use deodorant on a regular basis. It is not a > pretty picture. lol I find often people that think they don't need it have a > problem with their sense of smell. lol > > There are people in other cultures that don't wear deodorants and I usually > get stuck behind them in the line at the grocery store. > > > Jeannie > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Tom, I agree. I hate the heavy perfume smell. I gives me a headache and makes my bronchials want to close up. But I don't much like the smell of unclean and or unhealthy humans either. The worse smell of all being an unclean human trying to cover it with heavy perfumes. Though I am guilty of using scented lotions that smell like a single flower or something fruity. My favorite being when I was home making my own products, I scented my own lotions with pure essential oils. They never made me sick. I was often complemented on my fragrance and ask what it was. No one could smell it but me, unless they were close to me or in my car with me. And as the day progressed the fragrence slowly went away. Like everything else organic. Back to the earth from which it came. Belinda rawfood , " Tom Spontelli " <outreach wrote: > > Jeannie, > > I am sorry that you have to put up with " people of other cultures " in your > grocery store. Hopefully, immigration reform should solve that problem for > you. > > Keep in mind, that there are also many people who find heavily " perfumed and > deodorized " people not just unpleasant to be around but literally sickening, > and can end up in the hospital from being " stuck behind those people in the > line at the grocery store. " Chemically doused and saturated humans are no > fun to be around either. > > I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, ( " other > culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this hot steamy tropical > environment is to eat lots of raw food and to bathe three times a day, every > day. Of the 35 countries that I have visited, they were the absolutely > cleanest and nicest smelling people that I have ever met. They made all > Americans (myself included) seem like rank pigs doused in perfume. > > Just because you douse yourself with chemicals doesn't mean you smell any > less; just less animal, more chemical. (I also do animal rescue work and we > just lost a rescue animal (whom I was fostering) whose previous owner had > doused her in " fabrize " carpet deodorizer to make her smell better. The > sweet little puppy died yesterday afternoon. She is buried in my backyard.) > > All the best, > Tom > > BTW, the Javanese Royal Family (next door neighbors to the Balinese) > centuries ago hybridized a rare tropical fruit that when eaten supposedly > eliminates all body odor and makes one's bowel movements smell like flowers. > Sadhu, whom I mentioned in my earlier post, is also growing these plants on > his farm as well. Perhaps, this may be a solution to this " serious " problem. > > ______ > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > jeannieh h <jeannieh99 > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:18 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Why not stop using products? > > LOL....In my line of work, I HAVE to use deodorant every day. I have been > around people that don't use deodorant on a regular basis. It is not a > pretty picture. lol I find often people that think they don't need it have a > problem with their sense of smell. lol > > There are people in other cultures that don't wear deodorants and I usually > get stuck behind them in the line at the grocery store. > > > Jeannie > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 that is so sad about the puppy...It makes me crazy to see the tv commercials for that stuff where the mother is spraying her children's shoes, bedding and clothes, then attacks the family couch, pet beds, etc. POISON Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: Jeannie, I am sorry that you have to put up with " people of other cultures " in your grocery store. Hopefully, immigration reform should solve that problem for you. Keep in mind, that there are also many people who find heavily " perfumed and deodorized " people not just unpleasant to be around but literally sickening, and can end up in the hospital from being " stuck behind those people in the line at the grocery store. " Chemically doused and saturated humans are no fun to be around either. I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, ( " other culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this hot steamy tropical environment is to eat lots of raw food and to bathe three times a day, every day. Of the 35 countries that I have visited, they were the absolutely cleanest and nicest smelling people that I have ever met. They made all Americans (myself included) seem like rank pigs doused in perfume. Just because you douse yourself with chemicals doesn't mean you smell any less; just less animal, more chemical. (I also do animal rescue work and we just lost a rescue animal (whom I was fostering) whose previous owner had doused her in " fabrize " carpet deodorizer to make her smell better. The sweet little puppy died yesterday afternoon. She is buried in my backyard.) All the best, Tom BTW, the Javanese Royal Family (next door neighbors to the Balinese) centuries ago hybridized a rare tropical fruit that when eaten supposedly eliminates all body odor and makes one's bowel movements smell like flowers. Sadhu, whom I mentioned in my earlier post, is also growing these plants on his farm as well. Perhaps, this may be a solution to this " serious " problem. ______ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h <jeannieh99 Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:18 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Why not stop using products? LOL....In my line of work, I HAVE to use deodorant every day. I have been around people that don't use deodorant on a regular basis. It is not a pretty picture. lol I find often people that think they don't need it have a problem with their sense of smell. lol There are people in other cultures that don't wear deodorants and I usually get stuck behind them in the line at the grocery store. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Tom, What the name of the fruit and is it easy to grow it. Or who and where does this sadhu live ?? Arvind On 6/6/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > Jeannie, > > I am sorry that you have to put up with " people of other cultures " in your > grocery store. Hopefully, immigration reform should solve that problem for > you. > > Keep in mind, that there are also many people who find heavily " perfumed > and > deodorized " people not just unpleasant to be around but literally > sickening, > and can end up in the hospital from being " stuck behind those people in > the > line at the grocery store. " Chemically doused and saturated humans are no > fun to be around either. > > I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, ( " other > culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this hot steamy > tropical > environment is to eat lots of raw food and to bathe three times a day, > every > day. Of the 35 countries that I have visited, they were the absolutely > cleanest and nicest smelling people that I have ever met. They made all > Americans (myself included) seem like rank pigs doused in perfume. > > Just because you douse yourself with chemicals doesn't mean you smell any > less; just less animal, more chemical. (I also do animal rescue work and > we > just lost a rescue animal (whom I was fostering) whose previous owner had > doused her in " fabrize " carpet deodorizer to make her smell better. The > sweet little puppy died yesterday afternoon. She is buried in my > backyard.) > > All the best, > Tom > > BTW, the Javanese Royal Family (next door neighbors to the Balinese) > centuries ago hybridized a rare tropical fruit that when eaten supposedly > eliminates all body odor and makes one's bowel movements smell like > flowers. > Sadhu, whom I mentioned in my earlier post, is also growing these plants > on > his farm as well. Perhaps, this may be a solution to this " serious " > problem. > > ______ > rawfood <rawfood%40> [ > rawfood <rawfood%40>] On Behalf Of > jeannieh h <jeannieh99 <jeannieh99%40>> > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:18 AM > rawfood <rawfood%40> > Re: [Raw Food] Why not stop using products? > > LOL....In my line of work, I HAVE to use deodorant every day. I have been > around people that don't use deodorant on a regular basis. It is not a > pretty picture. lol I find often people that think they don't need it have > a > problem with their sense of smell. lol > > There are people in other cultures that don't wear deodorants and I > usually > get stuck behind them in the line at the grocery store. > > Jeannie > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no > one. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I highly recommend the movie " Safe " starring Julianne Moore as a housewife who develops chemical sensitivity. Great Film! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 OOOoooh, just the ones that " smell bad. " As long as can narrow our hatred and disgust to the smelly foreigners. .. and we all know who " THEY " are. This attitude is precisely why I left America four years ago. ______ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:00 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant tom i dont mean to speak for jeannie..but im sure she didnt mean to dis " people from other cultures " ..she was commenting on people from other cultures that " smell bad " ....... ... when in rome do as the romans do...that way no one " offends " anyone. peace anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Tom, I agree with you. My dh is one that can not tolerate being around perfumes. I had to stop using my favorite perfumes when I married him He gets violently ill around scents. I have no allergies to anything. He was a virtual " bubble boy " with all his allergies as a child. He can't use traditional soaps on his body, however, he is very clean and never smells bad. Personally, living in Houston, tx,which is like living in a virtual sauna 24/7, I take several showers a day. I never " douse " myself ...lol in anything. I just use deodorant because I can't stand myself if I smell badly and I can't stand to smell badly and be around people at work. I don't think it is very nice to have body odor while at work. I am thinking you maybe don't understand what I am trying to say about people smelling badly. I am talking about poor higiene. When people just don't seem to notice that they smell badly. Are you saying it is just my persception? As a big " animal lover " , I was very saddened to hear about the poor baby that died as a result of such terrible abuse. I am a proud mom to a parrot, a dog, 2 turtles. I had 2 cats, one lived to 20 years, , the other died at 19, bless their heart. I spent many years picking up strays in need of rescue. Sincerely, Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Tom Spontelli <outreach rawfood Wednesday, June 6, 2007 9:42:15 AM [Raw Food] Deodorant Jeannie, I am sorry that you have to put up with " people of other cultures " in your grocery store. Hopefully, immigration reform should solve that problem for you. Keep in mind, that there are also many people who find heavily " perfumed and deodorized " people not just unpleasant to be around but literally sickening, and can end up in the hospital from being " stuck behind those people in the line at the grocery store. " Chemically doused and saturated humans are no fun to be around either. I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, ( " other culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this hot steamy tropical environment is to eat lots of raw food and to bathe three times a day, every day. Of the 35 countries that I have visited, they were the absolutely cleanest and nicest smelling people that I have ever met. They made all Americans (myself included) seem like rank pigs doused in perfume. Just because you douse yourself with chemicals doesn't mean you smell any less; just less animal, more chemical. (I also do animal rescue work and we just lost a rescue animal (whom I was fostering) whose previous owner had doused her in " fabrize " carpet deodorizer to make her smell better. The sweet little puppy died yesterday afternoon. She is buried in my backyard.) All the best, Tom BTW, the Javanese Royal Family (next door neighbors to the Balinese) centuries ago hybridized a rare tropical fruit that when eaten supposedly eliminates all body odor and makes one's bowel movements smell like flowers. Sadhu, whom I mentioned in my earlier post, is also growing these plants on his farm as well. Perhaps, this may be a solution to this " serious " problem. ______ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h <jeannieh99 Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:18 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Why not stop using products? LOL....In my line of work, I HAVE to use deodorant every day. I have been around people that don't use deodorant on a regular basis. It is not a pretty picture. lol I find often people that think they don't need it have a problem with their sense of smell. lol There are people in other cultures that don't wear deodorants and I usually get stuck behind them in the line at the grocery store. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Tom wrote: <clip sarcastic remark> > I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, > ( " other culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this > hot steamy tropical environment is to eat lots of raw food and to > bathe three times a day, every day. Dear Tom: You have mentioned the one thing that is important if people are going to eschew deodorant: they will need to bathe frequently. Despite your enlightened neighborhood and lifestyle (or what I presume it must be, based on your comments), many of us live in cities and work 9-5 jobs alongside other people who work 9-5 jobs. So what? We choose this lifestyle or not. Nevertheless, most of us do not have the luxury of jumping in the shower every 4 hours or so. Instead, we work to make money so that we can provide shelter for and feed our families, where we find ourselves, or where we choose to live. Some of us, unfortunately, have the opportunity to be around people who think that a shower at night, regardless of the environmental temperature and/or their access to nocturnal air-conditioning, is enough for 24 hours, and, if those people think that deodorant is a useless outgrowth of the capitalist hegemony which is infecting our world with its ceaseless emphasis on acquisition of fun toys, or, for whatever other reason, eschew the use deodorant, life can be extremely unpleasant for those around them on even the coolest of days. Despite the delightful hygiene of the aforementioned Balinese village, many people who find their way to cities chock-full of other people do not use deodorant for whatever reason, and not all of these people are 100% totally vegan raw, and so, after a bit, or even all the time, come to stink. Just because you happen to find yourself in idyllic utopic environs does not mean that the rest of us do not experience " people from other cultures " , or even " people supposedly from our own cultures " who do not bathe three to four times a day, and who do not bathe in the morning before they go out (I personally have worked with a room-mate from a culture where bathing at night is customary, who found that she was being shunned at work and asked me why that might be. I suggested that she a) bathe in the morning, and b) USE DEODORANT. That was one of the hardest things that I have ever had to do (and I have had to do some really hard things in my life)-- our culture (I'm talking Anglo-American umbrella culture, here) does not really equip us with the wherewithal to tell someone that they stink. If we are even an ounce PC, it becomes even more difficult. I think that we do not really need to go all PC on people here on the list who are expressing their own experiences in an urban environment. No... in our culture, we should not have to deal with smelly people .... it is considered inappropriate in this culture to be smelly. Just because you and your friends have decided that smelly is okay is not a good enough reason for the rest of us to change (have you ever had to be near a New York City homeless person? Would you really, really, really, rejoice in that person's natural aroma?) I do know of an instance, in *another culture*, on another continent, where a teacher lined up the children, some of whom were from other countries, and *sniffed* them!!! and sent the smelly ones home (I, as a PC, bleeding heart American was horrified -- those poor children were only a product of their parents, who, as many people will do in a new country, HAD NOT LEARNED MUCH ABOUT THE LOCAL CULTURE, and so had caused their own children extreme embarrassment. Was the teacher wrong? Nope. The kids smelled something awful. No one wanted to be in the room with them. I welcome those of you who *choose* to smell like you are going to smell to continue to do what you choose to do, but I encourage you to live with other people who think like you and smell like you. I also encourage you to make the supreme effort to *understand* that you are operating on an enlightened view that does not encompass the larger part of the culture which you are graced to live within, which does allow you the freedom of choice to do as you will, so long as you do not break written laws. At the same time, I would like to suggest that you defer (at least when speaking to the rest of us poor unenlightened creatures) to the reigning culture, within which most of us live, and which most of us accept as reasonable, workable, acceptable, " what we know to be right, " and *the way things should be*. We are here, on this particular list, not to change the world's idea of how people should smell, but, rather, to discuss FOOD ISSUES, specifically, RAW FOOD DIET. Thank you for your consideration. Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Thanks,Anna....... Of course I don't mean to insult any culture....I am making a statement...an observation of what " I notice " ...right or wrong, it is my observation. I feel that there are people of other cultures...and I'm sure there are people of our own culture, that don't take higiene that seriously. I know I am not the only one that has a nose that has felt insulted or assaulted by a case of plain BO. Would you tell me you have not experienced standing next to someone in a store or in a cab or on the street somewhere that you didn't say to yourself..... " oh man, that dude stinks " .....lol Come on...let's be honest here. Is that insulting? I don't think so...I think it is a statement of fact..lol Sincerely, Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop mowthpeece rawfood Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:00:12 AM Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant tom i dont mean to speak for jeannie..but im sure she didnt mean to dis " people from other cultures " ..she was commenting on people from other cultures that " smell bad " .... there are many....but its a question of culture and what youre used to..its not a moral judgment of whos better...i agree that to other cultures WE smell terrible...we're afraid of natural odors here...a fear of our animal natures..this goes to the idea that humans are somehow superior than animals...and that comes from the arrogant view of being " made in the image of G-d " . Not that we're not..but that the culture has taken that and run with it to the point of denying we're evolved animals first...spiritual creatures second. but i digress..... when in rome do as the romans do...that way no one " offends " anyone. peace anna On 6/6/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > Jeannie, > > I am sorry that you have to put up with " people of other cultures " in your > grocery store. Hopefully, immigration reform should solve that problem for > you. > > Keep in mind, that there are also many people who find heavily " perfumed and > deodorized " people not just unpleasant to be around but literally sickening, > and can end up in the hospital from being " stuck behind those people in the > line at the grocery store. " Chemically doused and saturated humans are no > fun to be around either. > > I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, ( " other > culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this hot steamy tropical > environment is to eat lots of raw food and to bathe three times a day, every > day. Of the 35 countries that I have visited, they were the absolutely > cleanest and nicest smelling people that I have ever met. They made all > Americans (myself included) seem like rank pigs doused in perfume. > > Just because you douse yourself with chemicals doesn't mean you smell any > less; just less animal, more chemical. (I also do animal rescue work and we > just lost a rescue animal (whom I was fostering) whose previous owner had > doused her in " fabrize " carpet deodorizer to make her smell better. The > sweet little puppy died yesterday afternoon. She is buried in my backyard.) > > All the best, > Tom > > BTW, the Javanese Royal Family (next door neighbors to the Balinese) > centuries ago hybridized a rare tropical fruit that when eaten supposedly > eliminates all body odor and makes one's bowel movements smell like flowers. > Sadhu, whom I mentioned in my earlier post, is also growing these plants on > his farm as well. Perhaps, this may be a solution to this " serious " problem. > > ______ > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > jeannieh h <jeannieh99 > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:18 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Why not stop using products? > > LOL....In my line of work, I HAVE to use deodorant every day. I have been > around people that don't use deodorant on a regular basis. It is not a > pretty picture. lol I find often people that think they don't need it have a > problem with their sense of smell. lol > > There are people in other cultures that don't wear deodorants and I usually > get stuck behind them in the line at the grocery store. > > > Jeannie > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 no i dont know who " they " are...care to tell us?? i imagine anyone sweaty...who do you think she means? maybe you leaving was a good thing. you are an angry person. we have too many of those as it is. i dont know where your stuff is coming from dude, but i dont think anyone here deserves it. you reep what you sow dude.....right now, youre the only one all tweaked...why? you choose your reactions....why are you choosing this one? peace my brotha from anotha motha, anna On 6/6/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote: > > OOOoooh, just the ones that " smell bad. " As long as can narrow our hatred > and disgust to the smelly foreigners. > > . and we all know who " THEY " are. > > This attitude is precisely why I left America four years ago. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Well I fully understand what you are saying Jeannie. And you are right, there are foreign folks that stink. And it isn't always from lack of bathing. It is their diet. (my husband worked with such a case) You are also right about BO in our own culture. And lots of it. My husband's uncle never took a bath more than once a week. Saturday night, to be exact. (Remember, we are living in the hills of TN LOL) His uncle grew up during the depression on a farm. Baths were for Saturday night in the wash tub, so you would be clean for church on Sunday morning. The rest of the week, you just spot cleaned. He has continued to live pretty much like he did growing up. And yes, Uncle stinks, except on Sundays. And that's only if he happens to put on freshly washed clothes that day. Otherwise, he still stinks. But we love him anyway. On another note. He is now in a nursing home, and he gives his caretakers fits about too many baths. (And another interesting note. He is in a nursing home because of ailments brought on by a poor diet for many, many years. Diabetes for one and nerve damage in his legs from lack of the proper nutrients in his diet.) When I hung around at the elementary school with my kids. I met stinky kids. So no it isn't just other cultures. But foreign folks do sometimes smell from just peculiar, to down right offensive, for whatever reason. And that's a fact. Politically correct or not. So I am in support of all that Jeannie said and whoever got so offended by it, needs to get over it. There was nothing personal to him, unless he is one of these stinky people. So if the shoe fits, wear it, if not, throw it away. It was not meant for you. Belinda rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > Thanks,Anna....... > > Of course I don't mean to insult any culture....I am making a statement...an observation of what " I notice " ...right or wrong, it is my observation. I feel that there are people of other cultures...and I'm sure there are people of our own culture, that don't take higiene that seriously. I know I am not the only one that has a nose that has felt insulted or assaulted by a case of plain BO. > > Would you tell me you have not experienced standing next to someone in a store or in a cab or on the street somewhere that you didn't say to yourself..... " oh man, that dude stinks " .....lol Come on...let's be honest here. > > Is that insulting? I don't think so...I think it is a statement of fact..lol > > > Sincerely, > > > Jeannie > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Whoa, Margaret, you go girl. LOL ===wow, what a mouthful====) Belinda rawfood , " Margaret Gamez " <mgamez wrote: > > Tom wrote: > <clip sarcastic remark> > > I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, > > ( " other culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this > > hot steamy tropical environment is to eat lots of raw food and to > > bathe three times a day, every day. > > Dear Tom: > You have mentioned the one thing that is important if people are going > to eschew deodorant: they will need to bathe frequently. > > Despite your enlightened neighborhood and lifestyle (or what I presume > it must be, based on your comments), many of us live in cities and > work 9-5 jobs alongside other people who work 9-5 jobs. So what? We > choose this lifestyle or not. Nevertheless, most of us do not have the > luxury of jumping in the shower every 4 hours or so. Instead, we work > to make money so that we can provide shelter for and feed our > families, where we find ourselves, or where we choose to live. > > Some of us, unfortunately, have the opportunity to be around people > who think that a shower at night, regardless of the environmental > temperature and/or their access to nocturnal air-conditioning, is > enough for 24 hours, and, if those people think that deodorant is a > useless outgrowth of the capitalist hegemony which is infecting our > world with its ceaseless emphasis on acquisition of fun toys, or, for > whatever other reason, eschew the use deodorant, life can be extremely > unpleasant for those around them on even the coolest of days. > > Despite the delightful hygiene of the aforementioned Balinese village, > many people who find their way to cities chock-full of other people do > not use deodorant for whatever reason, and not all of these people are > 100% totally vegan raw, and so, after a bit, or even all the time, > come to stink. > > Just because you happen to find yourself in idyllic utopic environs > does not mean that the rest of us do not experience " people from other > cultures " , or even " people supposedly from our own cultures " who do > not bathe three to four times a day, and who do not bathe in the > morning before they go out (I personally have worked with a room- mate > from a culture where bathing at night is customary, who found that she > was being shunned at work and asked me why that might be. I suggested > that she a) bathe in the morning, and b) USE DEODORANT. That was one > of the hardest things that I have ever had to do (and I have had to do > some really hard things in my life)-- our culture (I'm talking > Anglo-American umbrella culture, here) does not really equip us with > the wherewithal to tell someone that they stink. If we are even an > ounce PC, it becomes even more difficult. > > I think that we do not really need to go all PC on people here on the > list who are expressing their own experiences in an urban environment. > No... in our culture, we should not have to deal with smelly people > ... it is considered inappropriate in this culture to be smelly. > > Just because you and your friends have decided that smelly is okay is > not a good enough reason for the rest of us to change (have you ever > had to be near a New York City homeless person? Would you really, > really, really, rejoice in that person's natural aroma?) > > I do know of an instance, in *another culture*, on another continent, > where a teacher lined up the children, some of whom were from other > countries, and *sniffed* them!!! and sent the smelly ones home (I, as > a PC, bleeding heart American was horrified -- those poor children > were only a product of their parents, who, as many people will do in a > new country, HAD NOT LEARNED MUCH ABOUT THE LOCAL CULTURE, and so had > caused their own children extreme embarrassment. Was the teacher > wrong? Nope. The kids smelled something awful. No one wanted to be in > the room with them. > > I welcome those of you who *choose* to smell like you are going to > smell to continue to do what you choose to do, but I encourage you to > live with other people who think like you and smell like you. I also > encourage you to make the supreme effort to *understand* that you are > operating on an enlightened view that does not encompass the larger > part of the culture which you are graced to live within, which does > allow you the freedom of choice to do as you will, so long as you do > not break written laws. > > At the same time, I would like to suggest that you defer (at least > when speaking to the rest of us poor unenlightened creatures) to the > reigning culture, within which most of us live, and which most of us > accept as reasonable, workable, acceptable, " what we know to be > right, " and *the way things should be*. > > We are here, on this particular list, not to change the world's idea > of how people should smell, but, rather, to discuss FOOD ISSUES, > specifically, RAW FOOD DIET. > > Thank you for your consideration. > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 i agree. There are smelly people. Period. why take so many things so personal?..maybe youre right.....and hes one of those people..it makes sense....if so....im sorry...but not my problem. he was offended at the deodarant thing, the splenda thing....im starting to wonder... Life is just too short to be that uptight over everything. i dont get it... peace anna On 6/7/07, Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: > Well I fully understand what you are saying Jeannie. And you are > right, there are foreign folks that stink. And it isn't always from > lack of bathing. It is their diet. (my husband worked with such a > case) > You are also right about BO in our own culture. And lots of it. > My husband's uncle never took a bath more than once a week. Saturday > night, to be exact. (Remember, we are living in the hills of TN LOL) > His uncle grew up during the depression on a farm. Baths were for > Saturday night in the wash tub, so you would be clean for church on > Sunday morning. The rest of the week, you just spot cleaned. He has > continued to live pretty much like he did growing up. > > And yes, Uncle stinks, except on Sundays. And that's only if he > happens to put on freshly washed clothes that day. Otherwise, he > still stinks. But we love him anyway. > On another note. He is now in a nursing home, and he gives his > caretakers fits about too many baths. > (And another interesting note. He is in a nursing home because of > ailments brought on by a poor diet for many, many years. Diabetes > for one and nerve damage in his legs from lack of the proper > nutrients in his diet.) > > When I hung around at the elementary school with my kids. I met > stinky kids. > > So no it isn't just other cultures. But foreign folks do sometimes > smell from just peculiar, to down right offensive, for whatever > reason. > > And that's a fact. Politically correct or not. > > So I am in support of all that Jeannie said and whoever got so > offended by it, needs to get over it. There was nothing personal to > him, unless he is one of these stinky people. > > So if the shoe fits, wear it, if not, throw it away. It was not > meant for you. > > Belinda > > > > > > rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > > > Thanks,Anna....... > > > > Of course I don't mean to insult any culture....I am making a > statement...an observation of what " I notice " ...right or wrong, it is > my observation. I feel that there are people of other cultures...and > I'm sure there are people of our own culture, that don't take higiene > that seriously. I know I am not the only one that has a nose that has > felt insulted or assaulted by a case of plain BO. > > > > Would you tell me you have not experienced standing next to > someone in a store or in a cab or on the street somewhere that you > didn't say to yourself..... " oh man, that dude stinks " .....lol Come > on...let's be honest here. > > > > Is that insulting? I don't think so...I think it is a statement of > fact..lol > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Jeannie > > > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised > to no one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 OMG, this is such an AWFUL situation. I have a friend who dealt with that at a retreat. Apparently this person, who had been all raw for a long time even (???) was just impaling. But noone dared say.... Glad it wasn't me, God. I mean, What DO you do, especially if someone is sensitive. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I use baking soda, but thankfully although I sweat a lot, I don't have " this " problem. I do take offense to the idea that it is foreigners/ethnic groups (not so - the offender in my friend's story was a WASP raw-foodist? I think it was rotting emotional decay, after finding out a bit about what this girl had gone through in life). I am glad that people got on that person's case who mentioned it and I envy Tom for being out of this country!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 impaling? sorry..did you mean appalling? the threat was cut so i personally couldnt follow the thought.. anna On 6/7/07, Erica <schoolofrawk wrote: > > OMG, this is such an AWFUL situation. I have a friend who dealt with > that at a retreat. Apparently this person, who had been all raw for a > long time even (???) was just impaling. But noone dared say.... Glad > it wasn't me, God. I mean, What DO you do, especially if someone is > sensitive. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Belinda, Ty.. I think we all must have someone like your uncle in the family. LOL I had a grandma that thought that people bathed too much and destroyed good bacteria on ones skin by doing so. She also thought my mom was " too clean " . lol I find it so fascinating the way different people have such different perspectives on the same issue. Amazing and wonderful. We are all products of our past and of our lifes experiences. Life is a journey of learning....an ever-evolving work in progress. I am reminded that one need only get into a cab to experience what I am talking about as far as BO is concerned. lol. Or get on a Metro bus here in Houston. lol There are many senarios I could list. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Belinda <MistyBlueTN rawfood Thursday, June 7, 2007 9:59:09 AM Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant Well I fully understand what you are saying Jeannie. And you are right, there are foreign folks that stink. And it isn't always from lack of bathing. It is their diet. (my husband worked with such a case) You are also right about BO in our own culture. And lots of it. My husband's uncle never took a bath more than once a week. Saturday night, to be exact. (Remember, we are living in the hills of TN LOL) His uncle grew up during the depression on a farm. Baths were for Saturday night in the wash tub, so you would be clean for church on Sunday morning. The rest of the week, you just spot cleaned. He has continued to live pretty much like he did growing up. And yes, Uncle stinks, except on Sundays. And that's only if he happens to put on freshly washed clothes that day. Otherwise, he still stinks. But we love him anyway. On another note. He is now in a nursing home, and he gives his caretakers fits about too many baths. (And another interesting note. He is in a nursing home because of ailments brought on by a poor diet for many, many years. Diabetes for one and nerve damage in his legs from lack of the proper nutrients in his diet.) When I hung around at the elementary school with my kids. I met stinky kids. So no it isn't just other cultures. But foreign folks do sometimes smell from just peculiar, to down right offensive, for whatever reason. And that's a fact. Politically correct or not. So I am in support of all that Jeannie said and whoever got so offended by it, needs to get over it. There was nothing personal to him, unless he is one of these stinky people. So if the shoe fits, wear it, if not, throw it away. It was not meant for you. Belinda rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > Thanks,Anna....... > > Of course I don't mean to insult any culture....I am making a statement...an observation of what " I notice " ...right or wrong, it is my observation. I feel that there are people of other cultures...and I'm sure there are people of our own culture, that don't take higiene that seriously. I know I am not the only one that has a nose that has felt insulted or assaulted by a case of plain BO. > > Would you tell me you have not experienced standing next to someone in a store or in a cab or on the street somewhere that you didn't say to yourself..... " oh man, that dude stinks " .....lol Come on...let's be honest here. > > Is that insulting? I don't think so...I think it is a statement of fact..lol > > > Sincerely, > > > Jeannie > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 rotflmao! Ohhhhhhhh....my sides are hurting!!! LOL Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Belinda <MistyBlueTN rawfood Thursday, June 7, 2007 10:06:03 AM [Raw Food] Re: Deodorant Whoa, Margaret, you go girl. LOL ===wow, what a mouthful====) Belinda rawfood , " Margaret Gamez " <mgamez wrote: > > Tom wrote: > <clip sarcastic remark> > > I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, > > ( " other culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this > > hot steamy tropical environment is to eat lots of raw food and to > > bathe three times a day, every day. > > Dear Tom: > You have mentioned the one thing that is important if people are going > to eschew deodorant: they will need to bathe frequently. > > Despite your enlightened neighborhood and lifestyle (or what I presume > it must be, based on your comments), many of us live in cities and > work 9-5 jobs alongside other people who work 9-5 jobs. So what? We > choose this lifestyle or not. Nevertheless, most of us do not have the > luxury of jumping in the shower every 4 hours or so. Instead, we work > to make money so that we can provide shelter for and feed our > families, where we find ourselves, or where we choose to live. > > Some of us, unfortunately, have the opportunity to be around people > who think that a shower at night, regardless of the environmental > temperature and/or their access to nocturnal air-conditioning, is > enough for 24 hours, and, if those people think that deodorant is a > useless outgrowth of the capitalist hegemony which is infecting our > world with its ceaseless emphasis on acquisition of fun toys, or, for > whatever other reason, eschew the use deodorant, life can be extremely > unpleasant for those around them on even the coolest of days. > > Despite the delightful hygiene of the aforementioned Balinese village, > many people who find their way to cities chock-full of other people do > not use deodorant for whatever reason, and not all of these people are > 100% totally vegan raw, and so, after a bit, or even all the time, > come to stink. > > Just because you happen to find yourself in idyllic utopic environs > does not mean that the rest of us do not experience " people from other > cultures " , or even " people supposedly from our own cultures " who do > not bathe three to four times a day, and who do not bathe in the > morning before they go out (I personally have worked with a room- mate > from a culture where bathing at night is customary, who found that she > was being shunned at work and asked me why that might be. I suggested > that she a) bathe in the morning, and b) USE DEODORANT. That was one > of the hardest things that I have ever had to do (and I have had to do > some really hard things in my life)-- our culture (I'm talking > Anglo-American umbrella culture, here) does not really equip us with > the wherewithal to tell someone that they stink. If we are even an > ounce PC, it becomes even more difficult. > > I think that we do not really need to go all PC on people here on the > list who are expressing their own experiences in an urban environment. > No... in our culture, we should not have to deal with smelly people > ... it is considered inappropriate in this culture to be smelly. > > Just because you and your friends have decided that smelly is okay is > not a good enough reason for the rest of us to change (have you ever > had to be near a New York City homeless person? Would you really, > really, really, rejoice in that person's natural aroma?) > > I do know of an instance, in *another culture*, on another continent, > where a teacher lined up the children, some of whom were from other > countries, and *sniffed* them!!! and sent the smelly ones home (I, as > a PC, bleeding heart American was horrified -- those poor children > were only a product of their parents, who, as many people will do in a > new country, HAD NOT LEARNED MUCH ABOUT THE LOCAL CULTURE, and so had > caused their own children extreme embarrassment. Was the teacher > wrong? Nope. The kids smelled something awful. No one wanted to be in > the room with them. > > I welcome those of you who *choose* to smell like you are going to > smell to continue to do what you choose to do, but I encourage you to > live with other people who think like you and smell like you. I also > encourage you to make the supreme effort to *understand* that you are > operating on an enlightened view that does not encompass the larger > part of the culture which you are graced to live within, which does > allow you the freedom of choice to do as you will, so long as you do > not break written laws. > > At the same time, I would like to suggest that you defer (at least > when speaking to the rest of us poor unenlightened creatures) to the > reigning culture, within which most of us live, and which most of us > accept as reasonable, workable, acceptable, " what we know to be > right, " and *the way things should be*. > > We are here, on this particular list, not to change the world's idea > of how people should smell, but, rather, to discuss FOOD ISSUES, > specifically, RAW FOOD DIET. > > Thank you for your consideration. > Margaret > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 maybe needs a little more " fiber " in his diet............LOL!! Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Thursday, June 7, 2007 10:13:59 AM Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant i agree. There are smelly people. Period. why take so many things so personal?..maybe youre right.....and hes one of those people..it makes sense....if so....im sorry...but not my problem. he was offended at the deodarant thing, the splenda thing....im starting to wonder... Life is just too short to be that uptight over everything. i dont get it... peace anna On 6/7/07, Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: > Well I fully understand what you are saying Jeannie. And you are > right, there are foreign folks that stink. And it isn't always from > lack of bathing. It is their diet. (my husband worked with such a > case) > You are also right about BO in our own culture. And lots of it. > My husband's uncle never took a bath more than once a week. Saturday > night, to be exact. (Remember, we are living in the hills of TN LOL) > His uncle grew up during the depression on a farm. Baths were for > Saturday night in the wash tub, so you would be clean for church on > Sunday morning. The rest of the week, you just spot cleaned. He has > continued to live pretty much like he did growing up. > > And yes, Uncle stinks, except on Sundays. And that's only if he > happens to put on freshly washed clothes that day. Otherwise, he > still stinks. But we love him anyway. > On another note. He is now in a nursing home, and he gives his > caretakers fits about too many baths. > (And another interesting note. He is in a nursing home because of > ailments brought on by a poor diet for many, many years. Diabetes > for one and nerve damage in his legs from lack of the proper > nutrients in his diet.) > > When I hung around at the elementary school with my kids. I met > stinky kids. > > So no it isn't just other cultures. But foreign folks do sometimes > smell from just peculiar, to down right offensive, for whatever > reason. > > And that's a fact. Politically correct or not. > > So I am in support of all that Jeannie said and whoever got so > offended by it, needs to get over it. There was nothing personal to > him, unless he is one of these stinky people. > > So if the shoe fits, wear it, if not, throw it away. It was not > meant for you. > > Belinda > > > > > > rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > > > Thanks,Anna....... > > > > Of course I don't mean to insult any culture....I am making a > statement...an observation of what " I notice " ...right or wrong, it is > my observation. I feel that there are people of other cultures...and > I'm sure there are people of our own culture, that don't take higiene > that seriously. I know I am not the only one that has a nose that has > felt insulted or assaulted by a case of plain BO. > > > > Would you tell me you have not experienced standing next to > someone in a store or in a cab or on the street somewhere that you > didn't say to yourself..... " oh man, that dude stinks " .....lol Come > on...let's be honest here. > > > > Is that insulting? I don't think so...I think it is a statement of > fact..lol > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > Jeannie > > > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised > to no one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I find life to short to be so offended at stuff. Lol.... BO....does not have a hold on any particular culture or " people " . It is an equal opportunity offender. I do feel cleanliness is next to Godliness.....but that's just me. As I stated....go to most major cities and get into a cab...sit on a bus...I can come up with many senarios. Also, why envy someone for being out of this country....If one wants to be out of this country I'm sure no one would stop them from leaving. Freedom is a beautiful thing. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Erica <schoolofrawk rawfood Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:39:09 AM Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant I use baking soda, but thankfully although I sweat a lot, I don't have " this " problem. I do take offense to the idea that it is foreigners/ethnic groups (not so - the offender in my friend's story was a WASP raw-foodist? I think it was rotting emotional decay, after finding out a bit about what this girl had gone through in life). I am glad that people got on that person's case who mentioned it and I envy Tom for being out of this country!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Yes..it sure is! to freedom!! anna 8-D On 6/7/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > I find life to short to be so offended at stuff. Lol.... BO....does not > have a hold on any particular culture or " people " . It is an equal > opportunity offender. I do feel cleanliness is next to Godliness.....but > that's just me. > > As I stated....go to most major cities and get into a cab...sit on a bus...I > can come up with many senarios. > > Also, why envy someone for being out of this country....If one wants to be > out of this country I'm sure no one would stop them from leaving. Freedom > is a beautiful thing. > > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Erica <schoolofrawk > rawfood > Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:39:09 AM > Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant > > > I use baking soda, but thankfully although I sweat a lot, I don't > have " this " problem. I do take offense to the idea that it is > foreigners/ethnic groups (not so - the offender in my friend's story > was a WASP raw-foodist? I think it was rotting emotional decay, after > finding out a bit about what this girl had gone through in life). I am > glad that people got on that person's case who mentioned it and I envy > Tom for being out of this country!! :-) > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Tom, Personally, I have no " hatred nor disgust " toward any one .....smelly or not.....foreign or domestic. I simply make comments which happen to be my opinion on things. We all have our thoughts and our opinions. That is what we share. I'm curious what you refer to when you say " This attitude is precisely why I left America four years ago. " BTW.............I'm happy you found your utopia. God Bless You. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Tom Spontelli <outreach rawfood Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:49:51 PM RE: [Raw Food] Deodorant OOOoooh, just the ones that " smell bad. " As long as can narrow our hatred and disgust to the smelly foreigners. .. and we all know who " THEY " are. This attitude is precisely why I left America four years ago. ______ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:00 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant tom i dont mean to speak for jeannie..but im sure she didnt mean to dis " people from other cultures " ..she was commenting on people from other cultures that " smell bad " ....... ... when in rome do as the romans do...that way no one " offends " anyone. peace anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 I do SO understand!!! WHICH version of raw makes all the difference. If you continue to load up your system with garlic and onions, spices and herbs, you will definitely need cosmetics all the days of your life. Only those who opt for the really clean route arrive at the place I have described. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:28 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant OMG, this is such an AWFUL situation. I have a friend who dealt with that at a retreat. Apparently this person, who had been all raw for a long time even (???) was just impaling. But noone dared say.... Glad it wasn't me, God. I mean, What DO you do, especially if someone is sensitive. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 About deodorant I have a reaction every time I use the stuff can someone help me? rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > Tom, > > Personally, I have no " hatred nor disgust " toward any one .....smelly or not.....foreign or domestic. > > I simply make comments which happen to be my opinion on things. We all have our thoughts and our opinions. That is what we share. > > I'm curious what you refer to when you say " This attitude is precisely why I left America four years ago. " > > > > BTW.............I'm happy you found your utopia. God Bless You. > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Tom Spontelli <outreach > rawfood > Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:49:51 PM > RE: [Raw Food] Deodorant > > > OOOoooh, just the ones that " smell bad. " As long as can narrow our hatred > and disgust to the smelly foreigners. > > . and we all know who " THEY " are. > > This attitude is precisely why I left America four years ago. > > > ______ > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Anna Bishop > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:00 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant > > tom i dont mean to speak for jeannie..but im sure she didnt mean to > dis " people from other cultures " ..she was commenting on people from > other cultures that " smell bad " ....... > .. > when in rome do as the romans do...that way no one " offends " anyone. > > peace > anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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