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hey elchanan..

 

if a person stuck to the same 5-6 foods day after day...staying 100%

raw...how long till a deficiency might show?

 

i kno it depends on the foods..but say...banana, peach, spinach

smoothies....watermelon... Salad with assorted greens, and avocado,and

mayb little snacks like raisins and nuts...occassionally.

 

thats it. How long could i live on this?

 

anna

 

On 6/7/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> I do SO understand!!! WHICH version of raw makes all the difference. If you

> continue to load up your system with garlic and onions, spices and herbs,

> you will definitely need cosmetics all the days of your life. Only those who

> opt for the really clean route arrive at the place I have described.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Erica

> Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:28 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

>

>

> OMG, this is such an AWFUL situation. I have a friend who dealt with

> that at a retreat. Apparently this person, who had been all raw for a

> long time even (???) was just impaling. But noone dared say.... Glad

> it wasn't me, God. I mean, What DO you do, especially if someone is

> sensitive. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

>

>

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Hi, Jenn here, I'm new to the group.

Not totally raw yet, but I wanna be as I surly know the health benefits.

 

People who don't eat meat, specially beef.. Don't really have too many

problems with BO. But they are also fully detoxified. I have a really good

friends who is an entertainer and weighs close to 400 lbs who doesn't use

deodorant.. Funny thing is, even though he lives in the desert, he doesn't

sweat that much and he never stinks. He eats mainly chicken and fish for

meat, never beef or pork, sometimes turkey. But he eats a ton of veggies and

fruit. In the past few years this lifestyle of eating improved his health

tremendously...to the point to where he is now alive and living well.

 

Some people no matter how much deodorant they use will still smell foul..

Because of the toxins built up in their bodies.

~Jenn

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jeannieh h

06/07/07 07:19:40

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

 

Thanks,Anna.......

 

Of course I don't mean to insult any culture....I am making a statement...an

observation of what " I notice " ...right or wrong, it is my observation. I

feel that there are people of other cultures...and I'm sure there are people

of our own culture, that don't take higiene that seriously. I know I am not

the only one that has a nose that has felt insulted or assaulted by a case

of plain BO.

 

Would you tell me you have not experienced standing next to someone in a

store or in a cab or on the street somewhere that you didn't say to yourself

..... " oh man, that dude stinks " .....lol Come on...let's be honest here.

 

Is that insulting? I don't think so...I think it is a statement of fact.

lol

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Jeannie

 

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Anna Bishop mowthpeece

rawfood

Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:00:12 AM

Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

 

 

tom i dont mean to speak for jeannie..but im sure she didnt mean to

dis " people from other cultures " ..she was commenting on people from

other cultures that " smell bad " ....

 

there are many....but its a question of culture and what youre used

to..its not a moral judgment of whos better...i agree that to other

cultures WE smell terrible...we're afraid of natural odors here...a

fear of our animal natures..this goes to the idea that humans are

somehow superior than animals...and that comes from the arrogant view

of being " made in the image of G-d " .

Not that we're not..but that the culture has taken that and run with

it to the point of denying we're evolved animals first...spiritual

creatures second.

but i digress.....

when in rome do as the romans do...that way no one " offends " anyone.

 

peace

anna

 

On 6/6/07, Tom Spontelli <outreach wrote:

> Jeannie,

>

> I am sorry that you have to put up with " people of other cultures " in your

> grocery store. Hopefully, immigration reform should solve that problem for

> you.

>

> Keep in mind, that there are also many people who find heavily " perfumed

and

> deodorized " people not just unpleasant to be around but literally

sickening,

> and can end up in the hospital from being " stuck behind those people in

the

> line at the grocery store. " Chemically doused and saturated humans are no

> fun to be around either.

>

> I spent some time in a traditional Balinese village for awhile, ( " other

> culture: " no deodorant.) Part of their tradition in this hot steamy

tropical

> environment is to eat lots of raw food and to bathe three times a day,

every

> day. Of the 35 countries that I have visited, they were the absolutely

> cleanest and nicest smelling people that I have ever met. They made all

> Americans (myself included) seem like rank pigs doused in perfume.

>

> Just because you douse yourself with chemicals doesn't mean you smell any

> less; just less animal, more chemical. (I also do animal rescue work and

we

> just lost a rescue animal (whom I was fostering) whose previous owner had

> doused her in " fabrize " carpet deodorizer to make her smell better. The

> sweet little puppy died yesterday afternoon. She is buried in my backyard

)

>

> All the best,

> Tom

>

> BTW, the Javanese Royal Family (next door neighbors to the Balinese)

> centuries ago hybridized a rare tropical fruit that when eaten supposedly

> eliminates all body odor and makes one's bowel movements smell like

flowers.

> Sadhu, whom I mentioned in my earlier post, is also growing these plants

on

> his farm as well. Perhaps, this may be a solution to this " serious "

problem.

>

> ______

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf

Of

> jeannieh h <jeannieh99

> Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:18 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Why not stop using products?

>

> LOL....In my line of work, I HAVE to use deodorant every day. I have been

> around people that don't use deodorant on a regular basis. It is not a

> pretty picture. lol I find often people that think they don't need it have

a

> problem with their sense of smell. lol

>

> There are people in other cultures that don't wear deodorants and I

usually

> get stuck behind them in the line at the grocery store.

>

>

> Jeannie

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no

one.

 

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That was my problem so I stopped using it LOL!! Now I just use nothing when

I'm not working and a little lavender essential oil when I am working.

 

Sorry I don't have more for you

 

Caroline

 

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

James Brand

Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:51 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

 

About deodorant I have a reaction every time I use the stuff can someone

help me?

 

rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> Tom,

>

> Personally, I have no " hatred nor disgust " toward any one

.....smelly or not.....foreign or domestic.

>

> I simply make comments which happen to be my opinion on things.

We

all have our thoughts and our opinions. That is what we share.

>

> I'm curious what you refer to when you say " This attitude is

precisely why I left America four years ago. "

>

>

>

> BTW.............I'm happy you found your utopia. God Bless You.

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised

to no one.

>

>

>

>

> Tom Spontelli <outreach

> rawfood

> Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:49:51 PM

> RE: [Raw Food] Deodorant

>

>

> OOOoooh, just the ones that " smell bad. " As long as can narrow

our

hatred

> and disgust to the smelly foreigners.

>

> . and we all know who " THEY " are.

>

> This attitude is precisely why I left America four years ago.

>

>

> ______

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:00 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

>

> tom i dont mean to speak for jeannie..but im sure she didnt mean to

> dis " people from other cultures " ..she was commenting on people from

> other cultures that " smell bad " .......

> ..

> when in rome do as the romans do...that way no one " offends "

anyone.

>

> peace

> anna

 

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Gracious, this man only eats chicken and fish, mostly veggies and

fruit and weighs nearly 400lbs?

How many chickens does he eat at a time? and how often?

 

How are the veggies and fruit prepared that he eats?

 

 

Belinda

 

 

> Hi, Jenn here, I'm new to the group.

> Not totally raw yet, but I wanna be as I surly know the health

benefits.

>

> People who don't eat meat, specially beef.. Don't really have too

many

> problems with BO. But they are also fully detoxified. I have a

really good

> friends who is an entertainer and weighs close to 400 lbs who

doesn't use

> deodorant.. Funny thing is, even though he lives in the desert, he

doesn't

> sweat that much and he never stinks. He eats mainly chicken and

fish for

> meat, never beef or pork, sometimes turkey. But he eats a ton of

veggies and

> fruit. In the past few years this lifestyle of eating improved his

health

> tremendously...to the point to where he is now alive and living

well.

>

> Some people no matter how much deodorant they use will still smell

foul..

> Because of the toxins built up in their bodies.

> ~Jenn

> ----

>

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OMG....I was thinking the same thing...

I'm wondering, how healthy can a close to 400# man (or woman) be?

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Belinda <MistyBlueTN

rawfood

Friday, June 8, 2007 7:42:09 AM

Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

 

 

Gracious, this man only eats chicken and fish, mostly veggies and

fruit and weighs nearly 400lbs?

How many chickens does he eat at a time? and how often?

 

How are the veggies and fruit prepared that he eats?

 

 

Belinda

 

 

> Hi, Jenn here, I'm new to the group.

> Not totally raw yet, but I wanna be as I surly know the health

benefits.

>

> People who don't eat meat, specially beef.. Don't really have too

many

> problems with BO. But they are also fully detoxified. I have a

really good

> friends who is an entertainer and weighs close to 400 lbs who

doesn't use

> deodorant.. Funny thing is, even though he lives in the desert, he

doesn't

> sweat that much and he never stinks. He eats mainly chicken and

fish for

> meat, never beef or pork, sometimes turkey. But he eats a ton of

veggies and

> fruit. In the past few years this lifestyle of eating improved his

health

> tremendously...to the point to where he is now alive and living

well.

>

> Some people no matter how much deodorant they use will still smell

foul..

> Because of the toxins built up in their bodies.

> ~Jenn

> ----

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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depends i guess...

 

whats his body fat content...vs lean mass...

 

?? Do we know??

 

anna

 

On 6/8/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

> OMG....I was thinking the same thing...

> I'm wondering, how healthy can a close to 400# man (or woman) be?

>

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

>

>

>

>

> Belinda <MistyBlueTN

> rawfood

> Friday, June 8, 2007 7:42:09 AM

> Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

>

>

> Gracious, this man only eats chicken and fish, mostly veggies and

> fruit and weighs nearly 400lbs?

> How many chickens does he eat at a time? and how often?

>

> How are the veggies and fruit prepared that he eats?

>

>

> Belinda

>

>

> > Hi, Jenn here, I'm new to the group.

> > Not totally raw yet, but I wanna be as I surly know the health

> benefits.

> >

> > People who don't eat meat, specially beef.. Don't really have too

> many

> > problems with BO. But they are also fully detoxified. I have a

> really good

> > friends who is an entertainer and weighs close to 400 lbs who

> doesn't use

> > deodorant.. Funny thing is, even though he lives in the desert, he

> doesn't

> > sweat that much and he never stinks. He eats mainly chicken and

> fish for

> > meat, never beef or pork, sometimes turkey. But he eats a ton of

> veggies and

> > fruit. In the past few years this lifestyle of eating improved his

> health

> > tremendously...to the point to where he is now alive and living

> well.

> >

> > Some people no matter how much deodorant they use will still smell

> foul..

> > Because of the toxins built up in their bodies.

> > ~Jenn

> > ----

>

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I use raw coconut oil. It's a natural antibacterial, and it smells

good. Haven't had any problems.

 

 

rawfood , " Caroline G Gomes " <cggomes

wrote:

>

> That was my problem so I stopped using it LOL!! Now I just use

nothing when

> I'm not working and a little lavender essential oil when I am

working.

>

> Sorry I don't have more for you

>

> Caroline

>

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> James Brand

> Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:51 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

>

> About deodorant I have a reaction every time I use the stuff can

someone

> help me?

>

> rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99@> wrote:

> >

> > Tom,

> >

> > Personally, I have no " hatred nor disgust " toward any one

> .....smelly or not.....foreign or domestic.

> >

> > I simply make comments which happen to be my opinion on things.

> We

> all have our thoughts and our opinions. That is what we share.

> >

> > I'm curious what you refer to when you say " This attitude is

> precisely why I left America four years ago. "

> >

> >

> >

> > BTW.............I'm happy you found your utopia. God Bless You.

> >

> > Jeannie

> >

> > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised

> to no one.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Tom Spontelli <outreach@>

> > rawfood

> > Wednesday, June 6, 2007 10:49:51 PM

> > RE: [Raw Food] Deodorant

> >

> >

> > OOOoooh, just the ones that " smell bad. " As long as can narrow

> our

> hatred

> > and disgust to the smelly foreigners.

> >

> > . and we all know who " THEY " are.

> >

> > This attitude is precisely why I left America four years ago.

> >

> >

> > ______

> > rawfood [rawfood ] On

> Behalf Of

> > Anna Bishop

> > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:00 AM

> > rawfood

> > Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

> >

> > tom i dont mean to speak for jeannie..but im sure she didnt mean

to

> > dis " people from other cultures " ..she was commenting on people

from

> > other cultures that " smell bad " .......

> > ..

> > when in rome do as the romans do...that way no one " offends "

> anyone.

> >

> > peace

> > anna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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That this man does not sweat is a tribute to how broken his system really is

.... he is SO dehydrated that his body is forced to choose hydration over

temperature and metabolic regulation. Hydration precedes almost everything

else in the body's prioritization scheme.

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Belinda

Friday, June 08, 2007 5:42 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

 

 

 

Gracious, this man only eats chicken and fish, mostly veggies and

fruit and weighs nearly 400lbs?

How many chickens does he eat at a time? and how often?

 

How are the veggies and fruit prepared that he eats?

 

Belinda

 

> Hi, Jenn here, I'm new to the group.

> Not totally raw yet, but I wanna be as I surly know the health

benefits.

>

> People who don't eat meat, specially beef.. Don't really have too

many

> problems with BO. But they are also fully detoxified. I have a

really good

> friends who is an entertainer and weighs close to 400 lbs who

doesn't use

> deodorant.. Funny thing is, even though he lives in the desert, he

doesn't

> sweat that much and he never stinks. He eats mainly chicken and

fish for

> meat, never beef or pork, sometimes turkey. But he eats a ton of

veggies and

> fruit. In the past few years this lifestyle of eating improved his

health

> tremendously...to the point to where he is now alive and living

well.

>

> Some people no matter how much deodorant they use will still smell

foul..

> Because of the toxins built up in their bodies.

> ~Jenn

> ----

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm just wondering what kind of body frame can support that kind of weight and

be healthy. I am just asking. I don't know.

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Anna Bishop <mowthpeece

rawfood

Friday, June 8, 2007 9:14:07 AM

Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

 

 

depends i guess...

 

whats his body fat content...vs lean mass...

 

?? Do we know??

 

anna

 

On 6/8/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

> OMG....I was thinking the same thing...

> I'm wondering, how healthy can a close to 400# man (or woman) be?

>

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

>

>

>

>

> Belinda <MistyBlueTN

> rawfood

> Friday, June 8, 2007 7:42:09 AM

> Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

>

>

> Gracious, this man only eats chicken and fish, mostly veggies and

> fruit and weighs nearly 400lbs?

> How many chickens does he eat at a time? and how often?

>

> How are the veggies and fruit prepared that he eats?

>

>

> Belinda

>

>

> > Hi, Jenn here, I'm new to the group.

> > Not totally raw yet, but I wanna be as I surly know the health

> benefits.

> >

> > People who don't eat meat, specially beef.. Don't really have too

> many

> > problems with BO. But they are also fully detoxified. I have a

> really good

> > friends who is an entertainer and weighs close to 400 lbs who

> doesn't use

> > deodorant.. Funny thing is, even though he lives in the desert, he

> doesn't

> > sweat that much and he never stinks. He eats mainly chicken and

> fish for

> > meat, never beef or pork, sometimes turkey. But he eats a ton of

> veggies and

> > fruit. In the past few years this lifestyle of eating improved his

> health

> > tremendously...to the point to where he is now alive and living

> well.

> >

> > Some people no matter how much deodorant they use will still smell

> foul..

> > Because of the toxins built up in their bodies.

> > ~Jenn

> > ----

>

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A bovine frame would work quite well.

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Friday, June 08, 2007 9:35 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

 

 

 

<http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId

=30191/stime=1181320903/nc1=3848446/nc2=4025377/nc3=3> I'm just wondering

what kind of body frame can support that kind of weight and be healthy. I am

just asking. I don't know.

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

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HOOOLY MOLY!!

 

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On 6/8/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> A bovine frame would work quite well.

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> jeannieh h

> Friday, June 08, 2007 9:35 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

>

>

>

> <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId

> =30191/stime=1181320903/nc1=3848446/nc2=4025377/nc3=3> I'm just wondering

> what kind of body frame can support that kind of weight and be healthy. I am

> just asking. I don't know.

>

> Jeannie

>

>

>

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your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Friday, June 8, 2007 12:34:55 PM

RE: [Raw Food] Deodorant

 

 

A bovine frame would work quite well.

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Friday, June 08, 2007 9:35 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Deodorant

 

 

 

<http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId

=30191/stime=1181320903/nc1=3848446/nc2=4025377/nc3=3> I'm just wondering

what kind of body frame can support that kind of weight and be healthy. I am

just asking. I don't know.

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

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