Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hello Everyone! Just wanted to get my 2 cents into this discussion about shampoo and soap and stuff.... I have naturally curly hair, and several years ago I read that in order to keep my hair from drying out and to keep from having to use eighty zillion pounds of conditioner, I needed to wash my hair less often. I tried it, and now I wash my hair with shampoo MAYBE once a week. I do use conditioner by dessert essense (no parabens, all natural, organic) a couple of times per week to aid with untangling my hair, but that's all. The only time I need to wash my hair more is when I have been using styling products for a couple of days in a row (even if you use them once, if you don't use shampoo, the product can still maintain it's value the next day...) My hair is much happier and much healthier than it has ever been...and that's BECAUSE I DONT WASH IT! I always hesitate to tell people my " secret " when they compliment me on the health of my hair, but oh well! I find that even when I have worked up quite a sweat that rinsing my body and my hair off in a warm shower is enough. As long as I haven't been eating onions, I'm good! I haven't ventured into the non-deodorant world yet....but maybe that's in my future, couldn't tell you. Two products I won't give up- lotion and toothpaste. Oh, and my wonderful shave gel by avalon organics. Seriously, that stuff rocks. I like the unscented kind with aloe. Its heaven in a bottle. I better get back to work! Take care! ~ K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 im envious. cant go 30hrs without shampooing...i go nuts with the itch...but i sure wish i could.... anna On 6/6/07, kerri <twinkles457 wrote: > Hello Everyone! Just wanted to get my 2 cents into this discussion > about shampoo and soap and stuff.... > > I have naturally curly hair, and several years ago I read that in > order to keep my hair from drying out and to keep from having to use > eighty zillion pounds of conditioner, I needed to wash my hair less > often. I tried it, and now I wash my hair with shampoo MAYBE once a > week. I do use conditioner by dessert essense (no parabens, all > natural, organic) a couple of times per week to aid with untangling > my hair, but that's all. The only time I need to wash my hair more > is when I have been using styling products for a couple of days in a > row (even if you use them once, if you don't use shampoo, the product > can still maintain it's value the next day...) My hair is much > happier and much healthier than it has ever been...and that's BECAUSE > I DONT WASH IT! I always hesitate to tell people my " secret " when > they compliment me on the health of my hair, but oh well! I find that > even when I have worked up quite a sweat that rinsing my body and my > hair off in a warm shower is enough. As long as I haven't been > eating onions, I'm good! > > I haven't ventured into the non-deodorant world yet....but maybe > that's in my future, couldn't tell you. > > Two products I won't give up- lotion and toothpaste. Oh, and my > wonderful shave gel by avalon organics. Seriously, that stuff > rocks. I like the unscented kind with aloe. Its heaven in a bottle. > > I better get back to work! Take care! > > ~ K > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Hi Anna, You can ... after you allow your system to cleanse itself the way it knows how, from the inside, out. In other words, you possess the capacity, should you choose to develop yourself in that way, toward that end. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:35 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] clean! im envious. cant go 30hrs without shampooing...i go nuts with the itch...but i sure wish i could.... anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 i will have to dedicate some time towards that end....it will take some planning i think.. anna On 6/6/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: > Hi Anna, > > You can ... after you allow your system to cleanse itself the way it knows > how, from the inside, out. In other words, you possess the capacity, should > you choose to develop yourself in that way, toward that end. > > Best, > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Anna Bishop > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:35 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] clean! > > > im envious. > > cant go 30hrs without shampooing...i go nuts with the itch...but i sure wish > i could.... > > anna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 And perhaps a paradigm shift or two along the way. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:06 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] clean! i will have to dedicate some time towards that end....it will take some planning i think.. anna On 6/6/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@pathofheal <Elchanan%40pathofhealth.org> th.org> wrote: > Hi Anna, > > You can ... after you allow your system to cleanse itself the way it knows > how, from the inside, out. In other words, you possess the capacity, should > you choose to develop yourself in that way, toward that end. > > Best, > Elchanan > _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Uuummm...my mind is there...just getting the body on the same page is all....i go in waves... anna On 6/6/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: > And perhaps a paradigm shift or two along the way. > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Anna Bishop > Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:06 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] clean! > > > i will have to dedicate some time towards that end....it will take > some planning i think.. > > anna > > On 6/6/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@pathofheal > <Elchanan%40pathofhealth.org> th.org> wrote: > > Hi Anna, > > > > You can ... after you allow your system to cleanse itself the way it knows > > how, from the inside, out. In other words, you possess the capacity, > should > > you choose to develop yourself in that way, toward that end. > > > > Best, > > Elchanan > > _____ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hey K where do you get your lotion? Is it made with tinostan, I am assuming it is Paraben and junk free . ) I would like to try some that is similar to what i make for comparisons. Thanks! -- Sharie http://sunflower-meadows-sharie.blogspot.com/ Mom to 5 Great kids, 3 adopted kittens, 20+ chickens ,one old dog ,one newly adopted puppy who chews on everything, one Awesome Hubby,a growing organic garden, herb beds, lots of Soap and other goodies too! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I am envious also!! I've tried the no hair washing also. Results....NOT GOOD!! lol I have very fine (baby fine) hair... it is oily in nature. I live in hot, nasty Houston...lol. The weather is so hot that if you go out for a walk in the afternoon, when you go back indoors you smell like a wet dog. Not nice. Tends to run customers, patients...whomever...right out the door. lol If I go one day with out washing, I look like I poured olive oil on it. lol. Not condusive to beign in a workplace. Co-workers tend to frown upon having to work with someone that looks dirty. I don't advicate " dousing " oneself with a perfumes or any products for that matter. I am just talking about basic " cleanliness " . Where you don't " offend " . And yes, I am talking " by our standards " or those which I grew up with because that is what I know. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Wednesday, June 6, 2007 11:34:51 AM Re: [Raw Food] clean! im envious. cant go 30hrs without shampooing...i go nuts with the itch...but i sure wish i could.... anna On 6/6/07, kerri <twinkles457 wrote: > Hello Everyone! Just wanted to get my 2 cents into this discussion > about shampoo and soap and stuff.... > > I have naturally curly hair, and several years ago I read that in > order to keep my hair from drying out and to keep from having to use > eighty zillion pounds of conditioner, I needed to wash my hair less > often. I tried it, and now I wash my hair with shampoo MAYBE once a > week. I do use conditioner by dessert essense (no parabens, all > natural, organic) a couple of times per week to aid with untangling > my hair, but that's all. The only time I need to wash my hair more > is when I have been using styling products for a couple of days in a > row (even if you use them once, if you don't use shampoo, the product > can still maintain it's value the next day...) My hair is much > happier and much healthier than it has ever been...and that's BECAUSE > I DONT WASH IT! I always hesitate to tell people my " secret " when > they compliment me on the health of my hair, but oh well! I find that > even when I have worked up quite a sweat that rinsing my body and my > hair off in a warm shower is enough. As long as I haven't been > eating onions, I'm good! > > I haven't ventured into the non-deodorant world yet....but maybe > that's in my future, couldn't tell you. > > Two products I won't give up- lotion and toothpaste. Oh, and my > wonderful shave gel by avalon organics. Seriously, that stuff > rocks. I like the unscented kind with aloe. Its heaven in a bottle. > > I better get back to work! Take care! > > ~ K > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I have seen the lotion I order at every health food store here in Wichita KS, and you can also order it on the internet. Not sure of the exact website, but the brand is Dessert Essence. The scent I'm using now is vanilla chai- I love it!!! ______________________________\ ____ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Ditto for me. Except scratch the Houston and replace with a very humid Tennessee. Baby fine, oily hair that is not washed dailey in hot humid weather is in the dictionary under " nappy head " .) Belinda rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > I am envious also!! > > I've tried the no hair washing also. Results....NOT GOOD!! lol > > I have very fine (baby fine) hair... it is oily in nature. I live in hot, nasty Houston...lol. The weather is so hot that if you go out for a walk in the afternoon, when you go back indoors you smell like a wet dog. Not nice. > Tends to run customers, patients...whomever...right out the door. lol > If I go one day with out washing, I look like I poured olive oil on it. lol. Not condusive to beign in a workplace. Co-workers tend to frown upon having to work with someone that looks dirty. > > I don't advicate " dousing " oneself with a perfumes or any products for that matter. I am just talking about basic " cleanliness " . Where you don't " offend " . And yes, I am talking " by our standards " or those which I grew up with because that is what I know. > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Wednesday, June 6, 2007 11:34:51 AM > Re: [Raw Food] clean! > > > im envious. > > cant go 30hrs without shampooing...i go nuts with the itch...but i > sure wish i could.... > > anna > > On 6/6/07, kerri <twinkles457 wrote: > > Hello Everyone! Just wanted to get my 2 cents into this discussion > > about shampoo and soap and stuff.... > > > > I have naturally curly hair, and several years ago I read that in > > order to keep my hair from drying out and to keep from having to use > > eighty zillion pounds of conditioner, I needed to wash my hair less > > often. I tried it, and now I wash my hair with shampoo MAYBE once a > > week. I do use conditioner by dessert essense (no parabens, all > > natural, organic) a couple of times per week to aid with untangling > > my hair, but that's all. The only time I need to wash my hair more > > is when I have been using styling products for a couple of days in a > > row (even if you use them once, if you don't use shampoo, the product > > can still maintain it's value the next day...) My hair is much > > happier and much healthier than it has ever been...and that's BECAUSE > > I DONT WASH IT! I always hesitate to tell people my " secret " when > > they compliment me on the health of my hair, but oh well! I find that > > even when I have worked up quite a sweat that rinsing my body and my > > hair off in a warm shower is enough. As long as I haven't been > > eating onions, I'm good! > > > > I haven't ventured into the non-deodorant world yet....but maybe > > that's in my future, couldn't tell you. > > > > Two products I won't give up- lotion and toothpaste. Oh, and my > > wonderful shave gel by avalon organics. Seriously, that stuff > > rocks. I like the unscented kind with aloe. Its heaven in a bottle. > > > > I better get back to work! Take care! > > > > ~ K > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 - jeannieh h >I have very fine (baby fine) hair... it is oily in nature. I live in hot, >nasty Houston...lol. The weather is so hot that if you go out for a walk in >the afternoon, when you go back indoors you smell like a wet dog. Not nice. I had this problem too, and live on the tropic of capricorn, so nice and warm. Switching from shampoo to bicarb worked wonders for my hair - it stopped being oily, and if I sweated, I could just rinse my hair and the salt from my sweat would act in a similar manner to the bicarb. My hair has gotten thicker too. I firmly believe, having seen it with my own hair and skin, that using things like shampoo causes you to need to use it. I don't mean to imply that food and/or health don't have any effect, but the products themselves definitely create a need for more. I sorta wish it was a bit oily at the moment: we're heading into winter, and my skin has never been so dry! I haven't " washed " my face or hair for about a week, except with warm water in the shower, and the skin on my face is all dry and peeling. I've never had to use moisturisers (apart from sunscreen), and have always had problems with my skin being too oily, so this is a bit of a shock to have dry skin. It's not even very cold, really, hasn't got below 40 (F) overnight yet, and is around 70 during the day. Feels very cold to us though, after a summer averaging around 100-110. Caron PS someone was asking about natural deodorants - not sure if you get miessence in the US, but they seem to be all organic/natural ingredients. I use one of their products (a face thing, for when my skin is very dry or burnt), and it's quite nice, my skin doesn't feel choked like it does with commerical creams and things. I think the url is www.miessence.com That's if bicarb doesn't work for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 you wrote: " had this problem too, and live on the tropic of capricorn, so nice and warm. Switching from shampoo to bicarb worked wonders for my hair - it stopped being oily, and if I sweated, I could just rinse my hair and the salt from my sweat would act in a similar manner to the bicarb. My hair has gotten thicker too. " Caron, When you say " bicarb " are you talking about baking soda? How do you use it exactly? How did it make your hair thicker? Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Caron <carongroups rawfood Monday, June 11, 2007 4:48:05 AM Re: [Raw Food] clean! - jeannieh h >I have very fine (baby fine) hair... it is oily in nature. I live in hot, >nasty Houston...lol. The weather is so hot that if you go out for a walk in >the afternoon, when you go back indoors you smell like a wet dog. Not nice. I had this problem too, and live on the tropic of capricorn, so nice and warm. Switching from shampoo to bicarb worked wonders for my hair - it stopped being oily, and if I sweated, I could just rinse my hair and the salt from my sweat would act in a similar manner to the bicarb. My hair has gotten thicker too. I firmly believe, having seen it with my own hair and skin, that using things like shampoo causes you to need to use it. I don't mean to imply that food and/or health don't have any effect, but the products themselves definitely create a need for more. I sorta wish it was a bit oily at the moment: we're heading into winter, and my skin has never been so dry! I haven't " washed " my face or hair for about a week, except with warm water in the shower, and the skin on my face is all dry and peeling. I've never had to use moisturisers (apart from sunscreen), and have always had problems with my skin being too oily, so this is a bit of a shock to have dry skin. It's not even very cold, really, hasn't got below 40 (F) overnight yet, and is around 70 during the day. Feels very cold to us though, after a summer averaging around 100-110. Caron PS someone was asking about natural deodorants - not sure if you get miessence in the US, but they seem to be all organic/natural ingredients. I use one of their products (a face thing, for when my skin is very dry or burnt), and it's quite nice, my skin doesn't feel choked like it does with commerical creams and things. I think the url is www.miessence.com That's if bicarb doesn't work for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 - jeannieh h >When you say " bicarb " are you talking about baking soda? How do you use it >exactly? How did it make your hair thicker? I -think- it's baking soda in the US. (I get confused because we have bicarb soda and baking powder, but they're different, and baking powder is different to baking soda) According to ninemsn bicarb = baking soda. I use it by sprinkling a bit on my palm (while in the shower - I keep a cup of bicarb on top of the shower wall), dampening it, and rubbing it over my face/skin, or through my hair. I use enough to get it through my hair, and rub my scalp with it - it will depend on your hair, how long it is, how oily it is when you use the bicarb on it, and so on. After a while, I was able to just wash my scalp, and the top of my hair, rather than having to wash all of it. As I rinse, it runs down the length of my hair, and gets the rest. I then put a splash of apple cider vinegar in a large cup of water, and rinse with that - it leaves my hair so soft and silky, I usually spend the first day after washing it, stroking it like a puppy, hehe. The chemistry behind it is that bicarb is alkaline, similar to soap, but without the gummy extras (I can't use soap, it hurts my skin, and causes rashes), so it cleans in a similar way; it's also a salt, so it's slightly abrasive, which makes it an excellent facial scrub, but be sparing in your use of it if you have delicate or sensitive skin. The vinegar is acid, so neutralises the alkaline of the bicarb, and leaves your hair at a neutral pH (ie, that of water, or close to). I don't know the exact numbers, and just use amounts that feel right at the time, so the pH might not be exactly neutral, but it works for me. It also tweaks the charge of your hair (ions in solution and all that), so it's smoother, hence the softness. My guess as to why it makes the hair thicker is that I'm no longer strangling or poisoning my hair follicles with shampoos and so on, so my hair is actually able to grow properly - it grows much faster, and looks much more healthy than it did before. I'm sure that once my diet improves, it'll be even healthier. It may not work exactly the same for you, but my suggestion is to try it for a few months, to give it a chance to start growing properly and settle down with your need to wash so frequently (it took 6-12 weeks for me to be able to go a week without washing), but you should see some improvement straight away. I washed mine with bicarb the first 2 days, then was able to skip a day and was every second day for the next few times, then increased a day every second or third wash. Now, well, after about 6-9 months, I only have to wash it a few times a month, usually before and after menstruation - not sure if that's due to my cycle, or what I eat around that time, but my oil secretion goes nuts. I've had to wash my hair daily for around 10 years, even living in a very cold climate. It's nice just to be able to shower briefly, wash the important bits, and jump out again, without wasting time and water washing my hair yet again, sometimes 12 hours after I last washed it. Caron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Thanks for the details. I am going to try it. I have baking soda. I use it alot for cleaning. I use vinegar for cleaning also. I just have never used baking soda for my hair, although I do use vinegar as a " rinse " every now and then to strip my hair of all the " build up " . It does feel silky after using. lol I will let you know how I do with the baking soda. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Caron <carongroups rawfood Monday, June 11, 2007 8:40:31 AM Re: [Raw Food] clean! - jeannieh h >When you say " bicarb " are you talking about baking soda? How do you use it >exactly? How did it make your hair thicker? I -think- it's baking soda in the US. (I get confused because we have bicarb soda and baking powder, but they're different, and baking powder is different to baking soda) According to ninemsn bicarb = baking soda. I use it by sprinkling a bit on my palm (while in the shower - I keep a cup of bicarb on top of the shower wall), dampening it, and rubbing it over my face/skin, or through my hair. I use enough to get it through my hair, and rub my scalp with it - it will depend on your hair, how long it is, how oily it is when you use the bicarb on it, and so on. After a while, I was able to just wash my scalp, and the top of my hair, rather than having to wash all of it. As I rinse, it runs down the length of my hair, and gets the rest. I then put a splash of apple cider vinegar in a large cup of water, and rinse with that - it leaves my hair so soft and silky, I usually spend the first day after washing it, stroking it like a puppy, hehe. The chemistry behind it is that bicarb is alkaline, similar to soap, but without the gummy extras (I can't use soap, it hurts my skin, and causes rashes), so it cleans in a similar way; it's also a salt, so it's slightly abrasive, which makes it an excellent facial scrub, but be sparing in your use of it if you have delicate or sensitive skin. The vinegar is acid, so neutralises the alkaline of the bicarb, and leaves your hair at a neutral pH (ie, that of water, or close to). I don't know the exact numbers, and just use amounts that feel right at the time, so the pH might not be exactly neutral, but it works for me. It also tweaks the charge of your hair (ions in solution and all that), so it's smoother, hence the softness. My guess as to why it makes the hair thicker is that I'm no longer strangling or poisoning my hair follicles with shampoos and so on, so my hair is actually able to grow properly - it grows much faster, and looks much more healthy than it did before. I'm sure that once my diet improves, it'll be even healthier. It may not work exactly the same for you, but my suggestion is to try it for a few months, to give it a chance to start growing properly and settle down with your need to wash so frequently (it took 6-12 weeks for me to be able to go a week without washing), but you should see some improvement straight away. I washed mine with bicarb the first 2 days, then was able to skip a day and was every second day for the next few times, then increased a day every second or third wash. Now, well, after about 6-9 months, I only have to wash it a few times a month, usually before and after menstruation - not sure if that's due to my cycle, or what I eat around that time, but my oil secretion goes nuts. I've had to wash my hair daily for around 10 years, even living in a very cold climate. It's nice just to be able to shower briefly, wash the important bits, and jump out again, without wasting time and water washing my hair yet again, sometimes 12 hours after I last washed it. Caron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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