On Public Health and Contagion ; Therefore choose life

June 6, 2007

Hi Anna,

From my perspective, you've touched upon THE cause of almost all " public

health problems " . All the " epidemics " , " plagues " , and the like arise from

hyperdense human population and the trash we create as a result. For

example, the plague (bubonic) travels on fleas, which travel on rats, whose

population explodes in the vicinity of human trash. So high-density trash,

deposited by humans living in high-density habitats, is really the primary

cause, from a public health perspective, of all " contagious " diseases. And

when the herd is thinned (as when nearly half the human population of Europe

was wiped out during the 1300s), then the problem resolves.

Of course, staying indoors with no fresh air, lack of physical activity,

poor diet, and so forth compound the problem, and we end up with " disastrous

epidemics " of one sort or another. All of our own creation, all just as

easily not created.

But hand-washing and antiseptics cannot resolve the underlying trash

problem, these techniques can only push the problem around a bit, and then

only until the density of trash surpasses some threshold level. In the long

run, we cannot preserve and nurture life through practices whose specific

intent is to destroy life. One day, if enough of us learn this oh-so-simple

lesson from our history -- a lesson we have repeated countless times -- then

on that day, finally, we shall experience sustainable health, for ourselves

and for all life around us. And until that day, most people shall remain

sickly and weak, vulnerable ( " susceptible " or " prone " ) to all manner of

symptoms, " accidents " , and the like.

Therefore let us choose life ... by creating our own vitality and by

supporting and nurturing all life.

And for those who asked recently, there is a bit more drawn upon the beliefs

taught in Vibrant Living Ministries ... just FYI.

Best to all,

Elchanan

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:55 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Hi Anna,

k thanks..

the folks i see with skin caked on them live on the streets of the city i

work for..and noooo one can mistake them for healthy!

one good bath does wonders for them though...

bathing is an old and useful act...within society it has saved lives...i

think you know the value in handwashing...some cultures avoided the plague

in europe because of it 8-).

i think living in such tight quarters has required an extra level of

*anti-ceptic* washing behaviors that are not required in wide open spaces.

The antibacterial handiwipe at the supermarket is a g-dsend if you could see

whos hands touch it in my city. In other words we are in a filthy

environment that goes beyond our own cleanliness but requires an aggressive

*defense* from those so far from the average level of clean that they could

be their own hazmat situation.

peace anna

June 6, 2007

elchanan

do you think society can ever go back?

population thinning thanks to a-bombs or other large scale wars (a

possible agenda item of the powers that be according to some) wont

take care of the damaged land left over. Land will be unusable. I see

no other large scale method of population thinning....oh wait...bird

flu...

anyone noticed that the threats on the news are geared towards

population thinning?? Just throwing that out there.....

i dont see any way to return to lower populations with a healthy clean

environment.

do you think this could happen? If so how?

anna

On 6/6/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> Hi Anna,

>

> From my perspective, you've touched upon THE cause of almost all " public

> health problems " . All the " epidemics " , " plagues " , and the like arise from

> hyperdense human population and the trash we create as a result. For

> example, the plague (bubonic) travels on fleas, which travel on rats, whose

> population explodes in the vicinity of human trash. So high-density trash,

> deposited by humans living in high-density habitats, is really the primary

> cause, from a public health perspective, of all " contagious " diseases. And

> when the herd is thinned (as when nearly half the human population of Europe

> was wiped out during the 1300s), then the problem resolves.

>

> Of course, staying indoors with no fresh air, lack of physical activity,

> poor diet, and so forth compound the problem, and we end up with " disastrous

> epidemics " of one sort or another. All of our own creation, all just as

> easily not created.

>

> But hand-washing and antiseptics cannot resolve the underlying trash

> problem, these techniques can only push the problem around a bit, and then

> only until the density of trash surpasses some threshold level. In the long

> run, we cannot preserve and nurture life through practices whose specific

> intent is to destroy life. One day, if enough of us learn this oh-so-simple

> lesson from our history -- a lesson we have repeated countless times -- then

> on that day, finally, we shall experience sustainable health, for ourselves

> and for all life around us. And until that day, most people shall remain

> sickly and weak, vulnerable ( " susceptible " or " prone " ) to all manner of

> symptoms, " accidents " , and the like.

>

> Therefore let us choose life ... by creating our own vitality and by

> supporting and nurturing all life.

>

> And for those who asked recently, there is a bit more drawn upon the beliefs

> taught in Vibrant Living Ministries ... just FYI.

>

> Best to all,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:55 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Hi Anna,

>

> k thanks..

>

> the folks i see with skin caked on them live on the streets of the city i

> work for..and noooo one can mistake them for healthy!

>

> one good bath does wonders for them though...

>

> bathing is an old and useful act...within society it has saved lives...i

> think you know the value in handwashing...some cultures avoided the plague

> in europe because of it 8-).

>

> i think living in such tight quarters has required an extra level of

> *anti-ceptic* washing behaviors that are not required in wide open spaces.

> The antibacterial handiwipe at the supermarket is a g-dsend if you could see

> whos hands touch it in my city. In other words we are in a filthy

> environment that goes beyond our own cleanliness but requires an aggressive

> *defense* from those so far from the average level of clean that they could

> be their own hazmat situation.

>

> peace anna

>

June 7, 2007

I want to be thin. I don't want to be " thinned " lol

Jeannie

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

Anna Bishop <mowthpeece

rawfood

Wednesday, June 6, 2007 1:03:39 PM

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