On Human Depopulation (WAS: On Public Health and Contagion ; Therefore choose life)

[Guest guest]

Hi Anna,

 

Thank you for asking me this. I cannot know the future any better than can

anyone else ... I can only share my impressions and some of the reasons

behind them. What I write here may seem politically incorrect to some ... be

forewarned.

 

No. we cannot go back, we can only go forward ... whatever that shall come

to mean. We stubbornly refuse to learn many lessons from our history, so we

shall surely repeat those lessons.

 

Yes, I believe a rather massive depopulation among our species is in the

works. I say this for many reasons. Here are a few:

 

1. Depopulation is already public policy of the " New World Order " in Africa,

where the population is being " thinned " by " AIDS " and other mysterious

" viruses " and " syndromes " of " unknown origin " . The purpose is to remove

obstacles impairing extraction of minerals. Yes, I do believe this all

occurs as a matter of public policy, by design, with intent, the works. Over

time, this will make the concentration and death camps of WW II seem like a

drop in the pond.

 

2. Depopulation is already evident in the skyrocketing increase in

infertility and particularly impotence in the U.S., which will be followed

in short order in the other " advanced " or " industrialized " nations. When we

reach the point, across multiple generations, where we are physiologically

no longer capable of reproducing safely, Nature intervenes and shuts off

that capacity in the portion of the population so affected. The skyrocketing

use of Viagra, Cialis, etc. is a living testament to this " impotence

epidemic " (as I wrote earlier, the result of excessive human trash, only

this time INSIDE our bodies). And we've only just begun to witness what is

coming.

 

3. Look at the explosion in the number of premature births. In Nature, these

babies would all perish. We can keep them alive, but we can never make them

fully healthy ... there is a point beyond which no diet, no amount of

physical activity and rest and such, can ever compensate. For we are

violating Nature's laws, we are crossing the line between life and death,

and creating something quite gray in between. Then we all get to pay the

cost for the rest of our lives and theirs, in taxes, in low-quality, boring

jobs that involve caring for these people, etc.

 

4. Look out into the world, look at the young people. Do they still LOOK

like humans, or do they begin to look devolved ... shoulders wrong, heads

jutting forward, eyes quasi-lifeless, incapable of forming complete

sentences, incapable of making change. If you were to take a dozen teen-aged

boys and girls today and line them up with their backs facing you, could you

easily tell, just by looking from behind, which are the boys and which are

the girls? I cannot, in general. At an " alarming " rate (depending upon one's

perspective), these children shall lack the capacity to reproduce.

 

5. Look at our new " epidemics " ... Downs, Autism, and the like. To a great

extent, these are children who simply cannot function fully as humans. And

this inability to function goes far beyond not being able to think, read,

write, add, or the like. This goes to being able to get dressed, to feed

oneself, and so forth. Again, these are children who would not survive in

Nature. We choose to keep them alive ... again, at a terrific cost that

knows no ceiling.

 

From the foregoing, we simply cannot sustain the kind of civilization we

have with a population such as I describe. Increasingly, these children

cannot grow food. They cannot shop for food. They cannot even unwrap and

prepare their own food. And they cannot clean up the dishes. They cannot

safely travel in an automobile, and they cannot navigate on public transit.

They cannot manage a bank account, or any account. Some can barely write

their own names. I mean all this quite literally, not figuratively. In a

very real sense, one could question ... and I DO question ... whether they

really are fully human.

 

6. We have lost our sense of liberty and our sense of value. People actually

believe that a piece of paper entitled " Federal Reserve Note " is (a) money

and (b) property of the United States of America. People --- and now I mean

those who are " normal " and " educated " --- literally cannot read a

straightforward heading anymore and figure out what it means. People buy the

nonsense that we should all be quasi-strip-searched " to ensure safety " when

we fly on a plane ... but not when we travel on a bus or train, apparently.

Yet every day, trains in the U.S. carry far, far more people than do planes,

and through far more difficult terrain. Such a people cannot long sustain

itself, I believe, at least not at the present level of the population.

 

7. We have gone to war with Nature, and this is a war we can only lose ...

one that we ARE losing. Why do I say this? Because America is at war, and

the world follows right behind. Everyone we knows we have a war on Iraq and

a war on terrorism. But it goes far beyond that. We have a war on poverty

and a war on AIDS, a war on illiteracy and a war on drugs. And the

leadership in all these wars is a government that conducts terrorism and

creates poverty and spreads AIDS, one that institutionalizes illiteracy and

promotes the use of all manner of drugs. We have so many wars, I doubt

anyone could list them all. And for our safety and well-being, we place our

trust in something we call " government " ... a collection of people who wish

to lord over the rest of us, as has been the case throughout the history of

" civilization " .

 

Go figure.

 

I said my words might be perceived as politically incorrect. I wasn't

kidding. I never kid, except when I'm joking around.

 

I could say much more, but I imagine you get the point by now. Yes, I do

believe a massive depopulation among our species is coming. That's the

reason for the biosphere projects. That why the old Department of Forestry

(I think that is correct, it's been years) was converted into the National

Park Service ... a transference of control, in the form of collateral, over

the U.S. national parks from the government to those who hold the U.S. debt,

a place for them to build biospheres and the like to house themselves, when

the time comes. Just wait, we'll all see this day in our lifetimes.

 

Enough for now,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:04 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] On " Public Health " and " Contagion " ; Therefore

choose life

 

elchanan

 

do you think society can ever go back?

 

population thinning thanks to a-bombs or other large scale wars (a possible

agenda item of the powers that be according to some) wont take care of the

damaged land left over. Land will be unusable. I see no other large scale

method of population thinning....oh wait...bird flu...

 

anyone noticed that the threats on the news are geared towards population

thinning?? Just throwing that out there.....

 

i dont see any way to return to lower populations with a healthy clean

environment.

 

do you think this could happen? If so how?

 

anna

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

you are even better informed than i thought.

 

i wasnt gonna go there...but i believe everything you said is true.

 

G-d have mercy on us all.

 

peace

anna

 

On 6/6/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> Hi Anna,

>

> Thank you for asking me this. I cannot know the future any better than can

> anyone else ... I can only share my impressions and some of the reasons

> behind them. What I write here may seem politically incorrect to some ... be

> forewarned.

>

> No. we cannot go back, we can only go forward ... whatever that shall come

> to mean. We stubbornly refuse to learn many lessons from our history, so we

> shall surely repeat those lessons.

>

> Yes, I believe a rather massive depopulation among our species is in the

> works. I say this for many reasons. Here are a few:

>

> 1. Depopulation is already public policy of the " New World Order " in Africa,

> where the population is being " thinned " by " AIDS " and other mysterious

> " viruses " and " syndromes " of " unknown origin " . The purpose is to remove

> obstacles impairing extraction of minerals. Yes, I do believe this all

> occurs as a matter of public policy, by design, with intent, the works. Over

> time, this will make the concentration and death camps of WW II seem like a

> drop in the pond.

>

> 2. Depopulation is already evident in the skyrocketing increase in

> infertility and particularly impotence in the U.S., which will be followed

> in short order in the other " advanced " or " industrialized " nations. When we

> reach the point, across multiple generations, where we are physiologically

> no longer capable of reproducing safely, Nature intervenes and shuts off

> that capacity in the portion of the population so affected. The skyrocketing

> use of Viagra, Cialis, etc. is a living testament to this " impotence

> epidemic " (as I wrote earlier, the result of excessive human trash, only

> this time INSIDE our bodies). And we've only just begun to witness what is

> coming.

>

> 3. Look at the explosion in the number of premature births. In Nature, these

> babies would all perish. We can keep them alive, but we can never make them

> fully healthy ... there is a point beyond which no diet, no amount of

> physical activity and rest and such, can ever compensate. For we are

> violating Nature's laws, we are crossing the line between life and death,

> and creating something quite gray in between. Then we all get to pay the

> cost for the rest of our lives and theirs, in taxes, in low-quality, boring

> jobs that involve caring for these people, etc.

>

> 4. Look out into the world, look at the young people. Do they still LOOK

> like humans, or do they begin to look devolved ... shoulders wrong, heads

> jutting forward, eyes quasi-lifeless, incapable of forming complete

> sentences, incapable of making change. If you were to take a dozen teen-aged

> boys and girls today and line them up with their backs facing you, could you

> easily tell, just by looking from behind, which are the boys and which are

> the girls? I cannot, in general. At an " alarming " rate (depending upon one's

> perspective), these children shall lack the capacity to reproduce.

>

> 5. Look at our new " epidemics " ... Downs, Autism, and the like. To a great

> extent, these are children who simply cannot function fully as humans. And

> this inability to function goes far beyond not being able to think, read,

> write, add, or the like. This goes to being able to get dressed, to feed

> oneself, and so forth. Again, these are children who would not survive in

> Nature. We choose to keep them alive ... again, at a terrific cost that

> knows no ceiling.

>

> From the foregoing, we simply cannot sustain the kind of civilization we

> have with a population such as I describe. Increasingly, these children

> cannot grow food. They cannot shop for food. They cannot even unwrap and

> prepare their own food. And they cannot clean up the dishes. They cannot

> safely travel in an automobile, and they cannot navigate on public transit.

> They cannot manage a bank account, or any account. Some can barely write

> their own names. I mean all this quite literally, not figuratively. In a

> very real sense, one could question ... and I DO question ... whether they

> really are fully human.

>

> 6. We have lost our sense of liberty and our sense of value. People actually

> believe that a piece of paper entitled " Federal Reserve Note " is (a) money

> and (b) property of the United States of America. People --- and now I mean

> those who are " normal " and " educated " --- literally cannot read a

> straightforward heading anymore and figure out what it means. People buy the

> nonsense that we should all be quasi-strip-searched " to ensure safety " when

> we fly on a plane ... but not when we travel on a bus or train, apparently.

> Yet every day, trains in the U.S. carry far, far more people than do planes,

> and through far more difficult terrain. Such a people cannot long sustain

> itself, I believe, at least not at the present level of the population.

>

> 7. We have gone to war with Nature, and this is a war we can only lose ...

> one that we ARE losing. Why do I say this? Because America is at war, and

> the world follows right behind. Everyone we knows we have a war on Iraq and

> a war on terrorism. But it goes far beyond that. We have a war on poverty

> and a war on AIDS, a war on illiteracy and a war on drugs. And the

> leadership in all these wars is a government that conducts terrorism and

> creates poverty and spreads AIDS, one that institutionalizes illiteracy and

> promotes the use of all manner of drugs. We have so many wars, I doubt

> anyone could list them all. And for our safety and well-being, we place our

> trust in something we call " government " ... a collection of people who wish

> to lord over the rest of us, as has been the case throughout the history of

> " civilization " .

>

> Go figure.

>

> I said my words might be perceived as politically incorrect. I wasn't

> kidding. I never kid, except when I'm joking around.

>

> I could say much more, but I imagine you get the point by now. Yes, I do

> believe a massive depopulation among our species is coming. That's the

> reason for the biosphere projects. That why the old Department of Forestry

> (I think that is correct, it's been years) was converted into the National

> Park Service ... a transference of control, in the form of collateral, over

> the U.S. national parks from the government to those who hold the U.S. debt,

> a place for them to build biospheres and the like to house themselves, when

> the time comes. Just wait, we'll all see this day in our lifetimes.

>

> Enough for now,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:04 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] On " Public Health " and " Contagion " ; Therefore

> choose life

>

> elchanan

>

> do you think society can ever go back?

>

> population thinning thanks to a-bombs or other large scale wars (a possible

> agenda item of the powers that be according to some) wont take care of the

> damaged land left over. Land will be unusable. I see no other large scale

> method of population thinning....oh wait...bird flu...

>

> anyone noticed that the threats on the news are geared towards population

> thinning?? Just throwing that out there.....

>

> i dont see any way to return to lower populations with a healthy clean

> environment.

>

> do you think this could happen? If so how?

>

> anna

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

And don't forget another very good tool for population control......

Abortion. I have little doubt that the government will eventually

and totally support this. That would take a load off of the thinning

out of humans for them.

 

Belinda

 

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Hi Anna,

>

> Thank you for asking me this. I cannot know the future any better

than can

> anyone else ... I can only share my impressions and some of the

reasons

> behind them. What I write here may seem politically incorrect to

some ... be

> forewarned.

>

> No. we cannot go back, we can only go forward ... whatever that

shall come

> to mean. We stubbornly refuse to learn many lessons from our

history, so we

> shall surely repeat those lessons.

>

> Yes, I believe a rather massive depopulation among our species is

in the

> works. I say this for many reasons. Here are a few:

>

> 1. Depopulation is already public policy of the " New World Order "

in Africa,

> where the population is being " thinned " by " AIDS " and other

mysterious

> " viruses " and " syndromes " of " unknown origin " . The purpose is to

remove

> obstacles impairing extraction of minerals. Yes, I do believe this

all

> occurs as a matter of public policy, by design, with intent, the

works. Over

> time, this will make the concentration and death camps of WW II

seem like a

> drop in the pond.

>

> 2. Depopulation is already evident in the skyrocketing increase in

> infertility and particularly impotence in the U.S., which will be

followed

> in short order in the other " advanced " or " industrialized " nations.

When we

> reach the point, across multiple generations, where we are

physiologically

> no longer capable of reproducing safely, Nature intervenes and

shuts off

> that capacity in the portion of the population so affected. The

skyrocketing

> use of Viagra, Cialis, etc. is a living testament to this " impotence

> epidemic " (as I wrote earlier, the result of excessive human trash,

only

> this time INSIDE our bodies). And we've only just begun to witness

what is

> coming.

>

> 3. Look at the explosion in the number of premature births. In

Nature, these

> babies would all perish. We can keep them alive, but we can never

make them

> fully healthy ... there is a point beyond which no diet, no amount

of

> physical activity and rest and such, can ever compensate. For we are

> violating Nature's laws, we are crossing the line between life and

death,

> and creating something quite gray in between. Then we all get to

pay the

> cost for the rest of our lives and theirs, in taxes, in low-

quality, boring

> jobs that involve caring for these people, etc.

>

> 4. Look out into the world, look at the young people. Do they still

LOOK

> like humans, or do they begin to look devolved ... shoulders wrong,

heads

> jutting forward, eyes quasi-lifeless, incapable of forming complete

> sentences, incapable of making change. If you were to take a dozen

teen-aged

> boys and girls today and line them up with their backs facing you,

could you

> easily tell, just by looking from behind, which are the boys and

which are

> the girls? I cannot, in general. At an " alarming " rate (depending

upon one's

> perspective), these children shall lack the capacity to reproduce.

>

> 5. Look at our new " epidemics " ... Downs, Autism, and the like. To

a great

> extent, these are children who simply cannot function fully as

humans. And

> this inability to function goes far beyond not being able to think,

read,

> write, add, or the like. This goes to being able to get dressed, to

feed

> oneself, and so forth. Again, these are children who would not

survive in

> Nature. We choose to keep them alive ... again, at a terrific cost

that

> knows no ceiling.

>

> From the foregoing, we simply cannot sustain the kind of

civilization we

> have with a population such as I describe. Increasingly, these

children

> cannot grow food. They cannot shop for food. They cannot even

unwrap and

> prepare their own food. And they cannot clean up the dishes. They

cannot

> safely travel in an automobile, and they cannot navigate on public

transit.

> They cannot manage a bank account, or any account. Some can barely

write

> their own names. I mean all this quite literally, not figuratively.

In a

> very real sense, one could question ... and I DO question ...

whether they

> really are fully human.

>

> 6. We have lost our sense of liberty and our sense of value. People

actually

> believe that a piece of paper entitled " Federal Reserve Note " is

(a) money

> and (b) property of the United States of America. People --- and

now I mean

> those who are " normal " and " educated " --- literally cannot read a

> straightforward heading anymore and figure out what it means.

People buy the

> nonsense that we should all be quasi-strip-searched " to ensure

safety " when

> we fly on a plane ... but not when we travel on a bus or train,

apparently.

> Yet every day, trains in the U.S. carry far, far more people than

do planes,

> and through far more difficult terrain. Such a people cannot long

sustain

> itself, I believe, at least not at the present level of the

population.

>

> 7. We have gone to war with Nature, and this is a war we can only

lose ...

> one that we ARE losing. Why do I say this? Because America is at

war, and

> the world follows right behind. Everyone we knows we have a war on

Iraq and

> a war on terrorism. But it goes far beyond that. We have a war on

poverty

> and a war on AIDS, a war on illiteracy and a war on drugs. And the

> leadership in all these wars is a government that conducts

terrorism and

> creates poverty and spreads AIDS, one that institutionalizes

illiteracy and

> promotes the use of all manner of drugs. We have so many wars, I

doubt

> anyone could list them all. And for our safety and well-being, we

place our

> trust in something we call " government " ... a collection of people

who wish

> to lord over the rest of us, as has been the case throughout the

history of

> " civilization " .

>

> Go figure.

>

> I said my words might be perceived as politically incorrect. I

wasn't

> kidding. I never kid, except when I'm joking around.

>

> I could say much more, but I imagine you get the point by now. Yes,

I do

> believe a massive depopulation among our species is coming. That's

the

> reason for the biosphere projects. That why the old Department of

Forestry

> (I think that is correct, it's been years) was converted into the

National

> Park Service ... a transference of control, in the form of

collateral, over

> the U.S. national parks from the government to those who hold the

U.S. debt,

> a place for them to build biospheres and the like to house

themselves, when

> the time comes. Just wait, we'll all see this day in our lifetimes.

>

> Enough for now,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:04 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] On " Public Health " and " Contagion " ;

Therefore

> choose life

>

> elchanan

>

> do you think society can ever go back?

>

> population thinning thanks to a-bombs or other large scale wars (a

possible

> agenda item of the powers that be according to some) wont take care

of the

> damaged land left over. Land will be unusable. I see no other large

scale

> method of population thinning....oh wait...bird flu...

>

> anyone noticed that the threats on the news are geared towards

population

> thinning?? Just throwing that out there.....

>

> i dont see any way to return to lower populations with a healthy

clean

> environment.

>

> do you think this could happen? If so how?

>

> anna

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i do wonder why all the bogus support for " anti-abortion " ...except to say

that

the people that arent going to be allowed abortions are the poor...the rich

always

will have them..

 

this makes and keeps the poor poorer...and more desperate...the class

separation is in full swing...

 

i think belinda there could be another twist to this,,,poor people grow up

to

go in the military because they have nothing else....all these plans require

canon fodder....i think the poor will provide it....so they dont abort them

now...

they let them get killed later...

 

just one scenario...

 

keeping in mind that people that can control their families are actually

better off than those that dont.

 

peace

anna

 

 

On 6/6/07, Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote:

>

> And don't forget another very good tool for population control......

> Abortion. I have little doubt that the government will eventually

> and totally support this. That would take a load off of the thinning

> out of humans for them.

>

> Belinda

>

>

>