Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi Caron, I'm not Belinda but have been feeding my dog raw for over 5 yrs. and done a lot of research/thinking on the topic. We have progressed through a few types of raw diets (starting with the pre-made commercial mixes) and now are following what is called " prey model. " It is based on the fact that dogs are descended from wolves and have the same digestive system. Wolves hunt mostly large prey in packs. So I try to get as close to that as possible, feeding a variety of prey parts within my budget and accessibility. There is a great discussion group on this type of feeding, with about 8500 members at: http://pets.rawfeeding/ Laurie rawfood , " Caron " <carongroups wrote: > Hi Belinda, > > Just wondering how, or more specifically what, you feed your dogs raw? Is it > raw meat, or raw veges, or a combination? > > Caron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Some dogs do well on raw, others do not. You can buy commercially prepared raw, or make it yourself. Or you can do a combination. Just remember, that although dogs have evolved from wolves, they are a long way off and have some differences. Wolves can handle much higher amounts of bacteria than domestic doggies. While it is good to keep dogs on as much a natural life as possible, do reallize that wolves in the wild do not always live very long. They can die from disease , or even from bones that have perforated or impacted. While I'm not saying not to do raw, I am saying to do aLOT of research before you do. And also, listen to both sides of the pro and cons for it. Then make an educated decision. I did try raw with my collie, however, he didn't do well on it, so he is on great dog food and homecooked. Now he is doing fine. That's what worked for me! Good luck with whatever you do! janet > Just wondering how, or more specifically what, you feed your dogs raw? Is it > raw meat, or raw veges, or a combination? > > Caron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi Laurie, this is how I fed too. I fed mostly raw meaty bones with some pureed raw veggies. Dogs are primarily carnivorous, but they do some grazing of vegitation when given the opportunity. Also dogs in the wild eat the contents of the stomach and intestines of the animals they kill, which provides them with all kinds of needed nutrients. (I know yuk) I am at the moment back to feeding a better grade of kibble, due to time restraints. Feeding raw to dogs is a bit time consuming and you need a lot of freezer space in order to take advantage of sales and buying in bulk. If you are lucky enough to be married to a hunter or know some, that is a great source of dog food. The same for fisherman. There was a lady on one of the boards that I was on that would put the fish her husband caught in a kiddie pool and her dogs would catch them thereselves. It was very rewarding for the dogs. One has to be careful of feeding whole fish though. Some fisherman leave their hooks in the fish and the fish can often survive for quite a while with the hooks inside them. I had backed off the RAW for dogs when the old Basset got to where she was not chewing up her chicken leg quarters and nearly choked trying to swallow one whole. I didn't have any way to grind her food, so I went back to kibble. When I switched her back, I also switched the other two dogs back because I felt sorry for the Bassett. She would just stare her dog food and kept waiting for me to bring her, her raw. So, everyone went back to kibble. Interestingly, a short tim after I switched them all back, my best Australian Shepherd of 7 years, developed kidney failure and after fighting it for about 2 months, I had to put him down. A year and a half later, I was putting his littermate, down due to cancer. I don't know if it was because of the switch in diet, or a coincidence, but that is what happened. I never had any luck switching the cat to raw. But she does catch her own raw meals when ever she wants them. She has free run of the fields that surround our house and access to all kinds of meals. My suggestion to anyone that wants to try raw for their dogs, also known as BARF,(bones and raw food) is to do your research. There is a lot of good info and message boards out there to join. Read the info, but get on one of the boards with some of the ones with experiance to help you through. Their testimonies are wonderful and amazing. Most get into raw for their pets for the same reasons we do. Their dogs have health issues, that the vets cannot help them with or the owners simply do not have the money for the vet bills. Belinda rawfood , " Laurie Swanson " <laurie wrote: > > Hi Caron, > > I'm not Belinda but have been feeding my dog raw for over 5 yrs. and > done a lot of research/thinking on the topic. We have progressed > through a few types of raw diets (starting with the pre-made commercial > mixes) and now are following what is called " prey model. " It is based > on the fact that dogs are descended from wolves and have the same > digestive system. Wolves hunt mostly large prey in packs. So I try to > get as close to that as possible, feeding a variety of prey parts > within my budget and accessibility. > > There is a great discussion group on this type of feeding, with about > 8500 members at: > > http://pets.rawfeeding/ > > Laurie > > rawfood , " Caron " <carongroups@> wrote: > > > Hi Belinda, > > > > Just wondering how, or more specifically what, you feed your dogs > raw? Is it > > raw meat, or raw veges, or a combination? > > > > Caron > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 Thanks to everyone who replied to this. My mother had dogs as pets (and bred them) for years before we kids were born, and we had dogs as pets (mine died just after I found out I was pregnant with my son), and we were always told that feeding them raw meat, particularly fresh raw meat, would " blood " them, making them seek out prey, which is dangerous with small children around, especially babies, which often act in the same way as small prey, with their movements, as well as their sounds. We also lived on a farm until I was 6, and didn't want the dogs after the cattle. I know that dogs respond to how they're treated, but babies, toddlers, and young children, aren't always as gentle as they might intend to be. Anyway, just wondering if there are any thoughts on this. My dog (a toy poodle, who lived to about 16 years) liked eggs, cooked or raw, and could eat a whole cooked chicken and never once choked on a bone (he'd crunch them, lick out the marrow, and spit out the pieces). He also like apples. He was very nervous though, and I was never able to get him over about 6 or 7 pounds in weight, even after he'd eaten a whole chicken. I'd like to get a dog for my boy at some stage, just have no idea what breed - definitely NOT a terrier, or any other little dog, they're too snappy. Caron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Hi Caron, There are a lot of myths about rawfeeding out there, and a great site addressing them! The one about it making dogs blood thirsty is covered (hint: it's not true). :-) http://rawfed.com/myths/ Laurie rawfood , " Caron " <carongroups wrote: and we were always told that feeding them raw meat, particularly fresh raw meat, would " blood " them, making them seek out prey, which is dangerous with small children around, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 - Laurie Swanson >There are a lot of myths about rawfeeding out there, and a great site addressing them! The one about it making dogs blood thirsty is covered (hint: it's not true). :-) Thanks, Laurie, I'll go check it out ) Caron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 That's an old wives tale. Don't believe a word of it! Judy raw meat, would " blood " them, making them seek out prey, which is dangerous with small children around, Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Agreed. But I will warn you with this. It does very often make the dogs food aggressive or guard their food. A species appropriate diet for the dogs is a very high value thing to them. The dogs know this and may fight to keep it. A natural reaction (wild canines do this) to a natural diet. Just feed the dogs seperate, outside or in a crate, and make everyone leave them alone until they are done. I did not give large meaty type bones, I usually just gave them food they could go ahead and consume. So there would not be dog fights over the bones. Not to mention they will often bury or hide the bones in your house. Shew. Belinda rawfood , Judy <rockyplayful wrote: > > > That's an old wives tale. Don't believe a word of it! > Judy > > > > > raw meat, would " blood " them, making them seek out prey, which is > dangerous with small children around, > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Dr. Ruza Bogdanovich will be coming to utah and she wote the book " if you love your pet don't take it to the vet " She is the leading authoryity on raw-food nutrition and will be speaking about pets at the Summer Bear Food, Fitness and Fun in Bryce Canyon July 19-22 it is so worth it to hear her and get this great info from someone who truly knows. www.summerbear.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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