Guest guest Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 You sound like my 10 year old son...ha, ha!! , Jiraph Wirpel <wirpel> wrote: > > The b-day is next week. I was born at 5:44am on the > 30th of March, 1955. My tradition is, at 5:43am, I > begin to look at myself... watching myself become a > year older! :^) > ===== > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections of stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time, seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond that support this. thanks. take care, Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good quality of life. And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec medical care. I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good quality of life. At least it does for me. Belinda rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote: > > does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support > that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own > experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections of > stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time, > seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond that > support this. thanks. > take care, > Lynda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 exactly.. no. this is not the diet for extending your life. the longest lived people on the planet are the japanese from okinawa. they have the most people over 100yrs old. they eat very clean..but diet includes rice, steamed veggies, fish, little meat, and some fruit. occassionally noodles, but in asia buckwheat is the grain most seen for noodles, or rice, not wheat like here...and lots of soups... sea greens, miso, ie. fermented soy products...very little of the ridiculous stuff called tofu...the diet is very low in fat... they dont overeat, they exercise a looot, they drink clean water and breathe clean air. they are very spiritual, either buddhist or shinto. this is a very large component, people underestimate sprituality's impact on longevity... they dont drink milk or eat bread like we do. alcohol of choice is sake, made of rice. diseases common to them osteoporosis, and stomach cancers - due to high use of sodium. although the stomach cancers are seen more in the city and other neighboring nations like korea... i highly recommend reading " The China Report " ...its the results of the largest and most comprehensive diet study ever conducted using 800,000,000 people in mainland China. the conclusion: he whom ate the most animal products had the most disease. period. peace anna On 6/12/07, Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: > > I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more > about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many > of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can > keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good > quality of life. > And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec > medical care. > I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good > quality of life. At least it does for me. > > > Belinda > > > > > > rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote: > > > > does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support > > that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own > > experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections of > > stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time, > > seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond that > > support this. thanks. > > take care, > > Lynda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Belinda, I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be present since we would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments that tend to shorten people's lives. Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good quality of life. And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec medical care. I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good quality of life. At least it does for me. Belinda rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote: > > does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support > that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own > experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections of > stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time, > seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond that > support this. thanks. > take care, > Lynda > Terry Lynn Bakhtiari May God bless you Today and always. www.terrywithpcos.blogspot.com Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 The big problem here is that no one is keeping records. In addition, there are different approaches to RF. I would not anticipate that all approaches would yield similar longevity. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Terry Bakhtiari Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:27 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging Belinda, I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be present since we would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments that tend to shorten people's lives. Belinda <MistyBlueTN@ <MistyBlueTN%40aol.com> aol.com> wrote: I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good quality of life. And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec medical care. I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good quality of life. At least it does for me. Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 good point....i dont think there are enough raw fooders in the world to justify a full on study, so no one has... we dont see centenarians though that ever step up and say they are raw fooders,,i think this is what people are hoping to see.. its is ironic though that in this country we are always seeing these folks saying ...<with very old grandpa like voice> .... " weeell...i never thought id reach 80 let alone 130!....ive been smoking 3 packs a day since i was 12yrs old! and i drink a pint a day of my jack daniels... hehehe.....never did believe in that vegeturian mumbojumbo...hehehe " . they neeeever show the healthy eating ones....good reason for that.. see my other rant.... 8-P anna On 6/12/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: > > The big problem here is that no one is keeping records. In addition, there > are different approaches to RF. I would not anticipate that all approaches > would yield similar longevity. > > Best, > Elchanan > > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > Of > Terry Bakhtiari > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:27 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging > > > Belinda, > I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be present > since > we would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments that tend to shorten > people's lives. > > Belinda <MistyBlueTN@ <MistyBlueTN%40aol.com> aol.com> wrote: > I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more > about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many > of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can > keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good > quality of life. > And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec > medical care. > I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good > quality of life. At least it does for me. > > Belinda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 there are, or at least, have been, a few " older " raw foodists out in California. One of them is or was called something like " Gypsy Boots " . Then there is Viktoras Kulvinskas, who worked with Ann Wigmore way back... I mean, if he is still around, he has to be older than I am, which makes him " older " . I think California is where you would find most older raw foodists. there might be others here and there (like I am " here " ), but California and other parts of the west coast, and, also Arizona, seem to have been a hotbed, in the past, of raw foodists (I am speaking of where people I heard of and paid attention to in the days before computers were out of) Margaret rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote: > > good point....i dont think there are enough raw fooders in the world > to justify a full on study, so no one has... > > we dont see centenarians though that ever step up and say they are > raw fooders,,i think this is what people are hoping to see.. > > its is ironic though that in this country we are always seeing these > folks saying ...<with very old grandpa like voice> .... " weeell...i never > thought id reach 80 let alone 130!....ive been smoking 3 packs a day > since i was 12yrs old! and i drink a pint a day of my jack daniels... > hehehe.....never did believe in that vegeturian mumbojumbo...hehehe " . > > they neeeever show the healthy eating ones....good reason for that.. > > see my other rant.... > > 8-P > > anna > > > On 6/12/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: > > > > The big problem here is that no one is keeping records. In addition, there > > are different approaches to RF. I would not anticipate that all approaches > > would yield similar longevity. > > > > Best, > > Elchanan > > > > _____ > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf > > Of > > Terry Bakhtiari > > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:27 PM > > rawfood > > Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging > > > > > > Belinda, > > I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be present > > since > > we would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments that tend to shorten > > people's lives. > > > > Belinda <MistyBlueTN@ <MistyBlueTN%40aol.com> aol.com> wrote: > > I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more > > about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many > > of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can > > keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good > > quality of life. > > And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec > > medical care. > > I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good > > quality of life. At least it does for me. > > > > Belinda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Hi Belinda, Yes, what I want is the quality of life and I feel so much better on raw also look better but did not think it was that bad untill tonight. I went with by dd to a meeting she had for being a trucker broker and did not want to be out late tonight driving home for she works on Eastertime and we live in western time. Well the man was coming on to me and I told him I was to old for him and he could not belive it for how I looked and talked. That did make me feel good. Well I havae had to show my ID to get a discount at some places, not old enough for it. I don't have gray hair it is thin but that is because I burned it off when a fire blow up in my face and melted my coat even. This raw food has something to it. I don't take meds and sometimes when I'm around people my age or about all they talk about is how much they take and so on and on. It make me tired. Theresa \o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 For some, I am sure this will be the case. But no one has the secret figured out for a long and healthy life. Whate ever long is. Not so many years ago, 50 was considered very old. In biblical times in was well up in the 100's before some of them died. These days, I am not sure what is considered old. We hear and see folks over 100 all the time. They are interviewed and still no one really knows their secret. Some eat some what healthy and some live totaly unhealthy. Smoke, drink alcahol, to much fat in the diet, etc. And yet they live a long and seemingly healthy life. Go figure. One thing that does seem common to those that are very old, is their attitude on life in general. Also, a lot of the people that have dieseases that shorten their lives, often do not develope them until they are older and the immune system dimenishes. Because no matter what we do, we cannot live forever. But I believe we CAN feel good until we do reach deaths door. One of my grandfathers died in his 70's (I think) He lived all his life on a farm, eating things he grew and working hard outdoors. No indoor plumbing or insulated house. Lot's of fresh air. (you could feed the chickens through the floor ) My dad says my granddad was never sick a day that he can remember. When it came time for my grandad to go, he sat down in his rocking chair and simply took his last breath. His very tired heart, just stopped. His wife died a couple of years later of kidney failure. She was sick for a few weeks, but that was all. Her kidneys had just worn out. I consider both of these deaths to be normal for an old body. Their children have not faired as well. Even though all but my dad continued to live on the farm, they all developed diseases. Two have been cancer, another congestive heart failure, another a combination of health problems. I lost one of my farm raised cousins at 46 years old to cancer. (she was raised eating their own chickens and eggs and raw milk from their milk cow, and drank water from their spring. Most everything they consumed came from their own place, and still..... the cancer. But of course the cancer did not come until after they got city water and started eating other foods besides what they grew and raised.???) She is the daughter to my uncle with cancer.(who still lives on the farm) Genetics? the city water they drink? Something they have been exposed too? who knows? My dad spent his adult life in the city. He is 81 and has few health problems. It's a mystery to me. I also believe that when living a healthy life style that begins early in life, before damage from an unhealthy life style occurs, we can delay health problems until later in life. I believe we will avoid the common diseases we see others suffer from by living a healthy lifestyle.(which includes more than just eating healthy) Then perhaps when our time to leave this world comes, it will be a swift one and without a lot of suffereing. Whether it be at 75 or a 110. (ok, I really do not care to live to 110)) Belinda > Belinda, > I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be present since we would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments that tend to shorten people's lives. > > Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: > I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more > about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many > of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can > keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good > quality of life. > And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi- tec > medical care. > I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good > quality of life. At least it does for me. > > Belinda > > rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken@> wrote: > > > > does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support > > that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own > > experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections of > > stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time, > > seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond that > > support this. thanks. > > take care, > > Lynda > > Terry Lynn Bakhtiari > May God bless you > Today and always. > www.terrywithpcos.blogspot.com > > > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 yes indeedy doody.. some say grey hair can be made to turn back to colored once you stop the poison of cooked food.. im eagerly watching for this.... anna On 6/12/07, potato <potato wrote: > Hi Belinda, Yes, what I want is the quality of life and I feel so much > better on raw also look better but did not think it was that bad > untill tonight. I went with by dd to a meeting she had for being a > trucker broker and did not want to be out late tonight driving home > for she works on Eastertime and we live in western time. Well the man > was coming on to me and I told him I was to old for him and he could > not belive it for how I looked and talked. That did make me feel good. > Well I havae had to show my ID to get a discount at some places, not > old enough for it. I don't have gray hair it is thin but that is > because I burned it off when a fire blow up in my face and melted my > coat even. > > This raw food has something to it. I don't take meds and sometimes > when I'm around people my age or about all they talk about is how much > they take and so on and on. It make me tired. > > Theresa \o/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 yes, I know because mine has and I'm not even on it all the time but I can see a difference and I like it so it makes me want to stay on full time. I started to see the big difference when I went to the drink made from wheat sprouts and then make my green drink from it. Theresa \o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 youve lost your grey???? really? tell us about it ! anna On 6/13/07, potato <potato wrote: > yes, I know because mine has and I'm not even on it all the time but I > can see a difference and I like it so it makes me want to stay on full > time. I started to see the big difference when I went to the drink > made from wheat sprouts and then make my green drink from it. > > Theresa \o/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Call me a skeptic, How can grey hair turn back to colored " once you stop the poison of cooked food " ? When a colored hair turns grey it is because it is dead. It has lost it's pigment. How can pigment be restored when it is gone? How can you bring life after death of a hair/ It just does not compute to me. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:09:01 AM Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging yes indeedy doody.. some say grey hair can be made to turn back to colored once you stop the poison of cooked food.. im eagerly watching for this.... anna On 6/12/07, potato <potato wrote: > Hi Belinda, Yes, what I want is the quality of life and I feel so much > better on raw also look better but did not think it was that bad > untill tonight. I went with by dd to a meeting she had for being a > trucker broker and did not want to be out late tonight driving home > for she works on Eastertime and we live in western time. Well the man > was coming on to me and I told him I was to old for him and he could > not belive it for how I looked and talked. That did make me feel good. > Well I havae had to show my ID to get a discount at some places, not > old enough for it. I don't have gray hair it is thin but that is > because I burned it off when a fire blow up in my face and melted my > coat even. > > This raw food has something to it. I don't take meds and sometimes > when I'm around people my age or about all they talk about is how much > they take and so on and on. It make me tired. > > Theresa \o/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 oh jeannie youre so cute.. doesnt compute....i like that....all hair is dead..even colored..its the rejuvination of the cell theyr talkin about..stop the poison and the cell returns to health... im noooot the expert on this..i just have read this from many published raw foodists...its worth looking into tho huh? i was starting to get a lot of grey in months past..i wasnt happy bout it! peace anna On 6/14/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > Call me a skeptic, How can grey hair turn back to colored " once you stop the > poison of cooked food " ? > > When a colored hair turns grey it is because it is dead. It has lost it's > pigment. How can pigment be restored when it is gone? How can you bring life > after death of a hair/ It just does not compute to me. > > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:09:01 AM > Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging > > > yes indeedy doody.. > > some say grey hair can be made to turn back to colored once you stop > the poison of cooked food.. > > im eagerly watching for this.... > > anna > > On 6/12/07, potato <potato wrote: > > Hi Belinda, Yes, what I want is the quality of life and I feel so much > > better on raw also look better but did not think it was that bad > > untill tonight. I went with by dd to a meeting she had for being a > > trucker broker and did not want to be out late tonight driving home > > for she works on Eastertime and we live in western time. Well the man > > was coming on to me and I told him I was to old for him and he could > > not belive it for how I looked and talked. That did make me feel good. > > Well I havae had to show my ID to get a discount at some places, not > > old enough for it. I don't have gray hair it is thin but that is > > because I burned it off when a fire blow up in my face and melted my > > coat even. > > > > This raw food has something to it. I don't take meds and sometimes > > when I'm around people my age or about all they talk about is how much > > they take and so on and on. It make me tired. > > > > Theresa \o/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Yes, It is starting to go away. I did not have much but it is going now and my hair is getting thicker even and that is something for me because I did scourch it off in the front 11 years ago and now it is starting to grow. I havea done some study and decided to try drinking water made from wheat sprouts and it has made me feel better along with watermelon and other greens. right now it is mostly the water and melon. Theresa \o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 outstanding! how old are you? Thats fantastic! anna On 6/14/07, potato <potato wrote: > Yes, It is starting to go away. I did not have much but it is going > now and my hair is getting thicker even and that is something for me > because I did scourch it off in the front 11 years ago and now it is > starting to grow. I havea done some study and decided to try drinking > water made from wheat sprouts and it has made me feel better along > with watermelon and other greens. right now it is mostly the water and > melon. > > Theresa \o/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 I am probably only about 3-5% grey, but when I pull out a grey hair it is sometimes dark on the root end. So I would have to assume that some of my roots are turning back dark again. I think when our cells are getting the nourishment and oxygen they require, anything is possible. Sharon In our hearts we plan our day, but it is God who determines our steps. Proverbs 16:9 outstanding! how old are you? Thats fantastic! anna On 6/14/07, potato<potato@integritycom> <potato<potato> wrote: > Yes, It is starting to go away. I did not have much but it is going > now and my hair is getting thicker even and that is something for me > because I did scourch it off in the front 11 years ago and now it is > starting to grow. I havea done some study and decided to try drinking > water made from wheat sprouts and it has made me feel better along > with watermelon and other greens. right now it is mostly the water and > melon. > > Theresa \o/ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 well i am intensely motivated to see this particular benefit manifest... elchanan, the drill sergeant, thinks im gonna have to be in exceptional health to see it... well so be it then! for THAT ill do it... anna 8-P On 6/14/07, vegigran <vegigran wrote: > I am probably only about 3-5% grey, but when I pull out a grey hair it is > sometimes dark on the root end. So I would have to assume that some of my > roots are turning back dark again. I think when our cells are getting the > nourishment and oxygen they require, anything is possible. > > Sharon > In our hearts we plan our day, but it is God who determines our steps. > Proverbs 16:9 > > > outstanding! > > how old are you? Thats fantastic! > > anna > > On 6/14/07, potato<potato@integritycom> > <potato<potato> wrote: > > Yes, It is starting to go away. I did not have much but it is going > > now and my hair is getting thicker even and that is something for me > > because I did scourch it off in the front 11 years ago and now it is > > starting to grow. I havea done some study and decided to try drinking > > water made from wheat sprouts and it has made me feel better along > > with watermelon and other greens. right now it is mostly the water and > > melon. > > > > Theresa \o/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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