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You sound like my 10 year old son...ha, ha!!

 

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> The b-day is next week. I was born at 5:44am on the

> 30th of March, 1955. My tradition is, at 5:43am, I

> begin to look at myself... watching myself become a

> year older! :^)

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does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support

that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own

experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections of

stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time,

seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond that

support this. thanks.

take care,

Lynda

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I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more

about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many

of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can

keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good

quality of life.

And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec

medical care.

I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good

quality of life. At least it does for me.

 

 

Belinda

 

 

 

 

 

rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote:

>

> does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support

> that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own

> experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections of

> stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time,

> seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond that

> support this. thanks.

> take care,

> Lynda

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exactly..

 

no. this is not the diet for extending your life.

 

the longest lived people on the planet are the japanese from okinawa.

 

they have the most people over 100yrs old.

 

they eat very clean..but diet includes rice, steamed veggies, fish, little

meat,

and some fruit. occassionally noodles, but in asia buckwheat is the grain

most seen for noodles, or rice, not wheat like here...and lots of soups...

sea greens, miso, ie. fermented soy products...very little of the ridiculous

 

stuff called tofu...the diet is very low in fat...

 

they dont overeat, they exercise a looot, they drink clean water and

breathe clean air. they are very spiritual, either buddhist or shinto.

this is a very large component, people underestimate sprituality's

impact on longevity...

 

they dont drink milk or eat bread like we do.

 

alcohol of choice is sake, made of rice.

 

diseases common to them osteoporosis, and stomach cancers - due to

high use of sodium. although the stomach cancers are seen more in the

city and other neighboring nations like korea...

 

i highly recommend reading " The China Report " ...its the results of

the largest and most comprehensive diet study ever conducted using

800,000,000 people in mainland China.

 

the conclusion: he whom ate the most animal products had the most

disease. period.

 

peace

anna

 

 

On 6/12/07, Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote:

>

> I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more

> about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many

> of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can

> keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good

> quality of life.

> And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec

> medical care.

> I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good

> quality of life. At least it does for me.

>

>

> Belinda

>

>

>

>

>

> rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote:

> >

> > does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support

> > that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own

> > experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections of

> > stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time,

> > seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond that

> > support this. thanks.

> > take care,

> > Lynda

>

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Belinda,

I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be present since we

would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments that tend to shorten people's

lives.

 

Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote:

I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more

about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many

of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can

keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good

quality of life.

And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec

medical care.

I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good

quality of life. At least it does for me.

 

Belinda

 

rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote:

>

> does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support

> that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own

> experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections of

> stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time,

> seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond that

> support this. thanks.

> take care,

> Lynda

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Terry Lynn Bakhtiari

May God bless you

Today and always.

www.terrywithpcos.blogspot.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The big problem here is that no one is keeping records. In addition, there

are different approaches to RF. I would not anticipate that all approaches

would yield similar longevity.

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Terry Bakhtiari

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:27 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging

 

 

Belinda,

I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be present since

we would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments that tend to shorten

people's lives.

 

Belinda <MistyBlueTN@ <MistyBlueTN%40aol.com> aol.com> wrote:

I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more

about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many

of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can

keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good

quality of life.

And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec

medical care.

I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good

quality of life. At least it does for me.

 

Belinda

 

 

 

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good point....i dont think there are enough raw fooders in the world

to justify a full on study, so no one has...

 

we dont see centenarians though that ever step up and say they are

raw fooders,,i think this is what people are hoping to see..

 

its is ironic though that in this country we are always seeing these

folks saying ...<with very old grandpa like voice> .... " weeell...i never

thought id reach 80 let alone 130!....ive been smoking 3 packs a day

since i was 12yrs old! and i drink a pint a day of my jack daniels...

hehehe.....never did believe in that vegeturian mumbojumbo...hehehe " .

 

they neeeever show the healthy eating ones....good reason for that..

 

see my other rant....

 

8-P

 

anna

 

 

On 6/12/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

>

> The big problem here is that no one is keeping records. In addition, there

> are different approaches to RF. I would not anticipate that all approaches

> would yield similar longevity.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf

> Of

> Terry Bakhtiari

> Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:27 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging

>

>

> Belinda,

> I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be present

> since

> we would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments that tend to shorten

> people's lives.

>

> Belinda <MistyBlueTN@ <MistyBlueTN%40aol.com> aol.com> wrote:

> I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more

> about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many

> of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can

> keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good

> quality of life.

> And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-tec

> medical care.

> I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good

> quality of life. At least it does for me.

>

> Belinda

>

>

>

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there are, or at least, have been, a few " older " raw foodists out in

California.

One of them is or was called something like " Gypsy Boots " . Then there

is Viktoras Kulvinskas, who worked with Ann Wigmore way back... I

mean, if he is still around, he has to be older than I am, which makes

him " older " .

I think California is where you would find most older raw foodists.

there might be others here and there (like I am " here " ), but

California and other parts of the west coast, and, also Arizona, seem

to have been a hotbed, in the past, of raw foodists (I am speaking of

where people I heard of and paid attention to in the days before

computers were out of)

Margaret

 

rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote:

>

> good point....i dont think there are enough raw fooders in the world

> to justify a full on study, so no one has...

>

> we dont see centenarians though that ever step up and say they are

> raw fooders,,i think this is what people are hoping to see..

>

> its is ironic though that in this country we are always seeing these

> folks saying ...<with very old grandpa like voice> .... " weeell...i never

> thought id reach 80 let alone 130!....ive been smoking 3 packs a day

> since i was 12yrs old! and i drink a pint a day of my jack daniels...

> hehehe.....never did believe in that vegeturian mumbojumbo...hehehe " .

>

> they neeeever show the healthy eating ones....good reason for that..

>

> see my other rant....

>

> 8-P

>

> anna

>

>

> On 6/12/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> >

> > The big problem here is that no one is keeping records. In

addition, there

> > are different approaches to RF. I would not anticipate that all

approaches

> > would yield similar longevity.

> >

> > Best,

> > Elchanan

> >

> > _____

> >

> > rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf

> > Of

> > Terry Bakhtiari

> > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:27 PM

> > rawfood

> > Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging

> >

> >

> > Belinda,

> > I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be present

> > since

> > we would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments that tend to

shorten

> > people's lives.

> >

> > Belinda <MistyBlueTN@ <MistyBlueTN%40aol.com> aol.com> wrote:

> > I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about longevity, but more

> > about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so many

> > of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine can

> > keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a good

> > quality of life.

> > And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of

hi-tec

> > medical care.

> > I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good

> > quality of life. At least it does for me.

> >

> > Belinda

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Belinda, Yes, what I want is the quality of life and I feel so much

better on raw also look better but did not think it was that bad

untill tonight. I went with by dd to a meeting she had for being a

trucker broker and did not want to be out late tonight driving home

for she works on Eastertime and we live in western time. Well the man

was coming on to me and I told him I was to old for him and he could

not belive it for how I looked and talked. That did make me feel good.

Well I havae had to show my ID to get a discount at some places, not

old enough for it. I don't have gray hair it is thin but that is

because I burned it off when a fire blow up in my face and melted my

coat even.

 

This raw food has something to it. I don't take meds and sometimes

when I'm around people my age or about all they talk about is how much

they take and so on and on. It make me tired.

 

Theresa \o/

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For some, I am sure this will be the case. But no one has the secret

figured out for a long and healthy life. Whate ever long is.

Not so many years ago, 50 was considered very old.

In biblical times in was well up in the 100's before some of them

died.

 

These days, I am not sure what is considered old.

 

We hear and see folks over 100 all the time. They are interviewed

and still no one really knows their secret. Some eat some what

healthy and some live totaly unhealthy. Smoke, drink alcahol, to

much fat in the diet, etc. And yet they live a long and seemingly

healthy life. Go figure. One thing that does seem common to those

that are very old, is their attitude on life in general.

 

 

Also, a lot of the people that have dieseases that shorten their

lives, often do not develope them until they are older and the immune

system dimenishes. Because no matter what we do, we cannot live

forever. But I believe we CAN feel good until we do reach deaths

door. One of my grandfathers died in his 70's (I think) He lived all

his life on a farm, eating things he grew and working hard outdoors.

No indoor plumbing or insulated house. Lot's of fresh air. (you

could feed the chickens through the floor :o) My dad says my

granddad was never sick a day that he can remember. When it came

time for my grandad to go, he sat down in his rocking chair and

simply took his last breath. His very tired heart, just stopped.

His wife died a couple of years later of kidney failure. She was

sick for a few weeks, but that was all. Her kidneys had just worn

out.

I consider both of these deaths to be normal for an old body.

Their children have not faired as well. Even though all but my dad

continued to live on the farm, they all developed diseases. Two have

been cancer, another congestive heart failure, another a combination

of health problems. I lost one of my farm raised cousins at 46 years

old to cancer. (she was raised eating their own chickens and eggs and

raw milk from their milk cow, and drank water from their spring.

Most everything they consumed came from their own place, and

still..... the cancer. But of course the cancer did not come until

after they got city water and started eating other foods besides what

they grew and raised.???) She is the daughter to my uncle with

cancer.(who still lives on the farm) Genetics? the city water they

drink? Something they have been exposed too? who knows?

My dad spent his adult life in the city. He is 81 and has few health

problems. It's a mystery to me.

 

I also believe that when living a healthy life style that begins

early in life, before damage from an unhealthy life style occurs, we

can delay health problems until later in life. I believe we will

avoid the common diseases we see others suffer from by living a

healthy lifestyle.(which includes more than just eating healthy)

Then perhaps when our time to leave this world comes, it will be a

swift one and without a lot of suffereing.

Whether it be at 75 or a 110. (ok, I really do not care to live to

110):o)

 

Belinda

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Belinda,

> I agree with you but i also thought longetivity would also be

present since we would not be suffering from a lot of the ailments

that tend to shorten people's lives.

>

> Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote:

> I am not sure that eating raw is entirely about

longevity, but more

> about quality of life while we are living. Being able to avoid so

many

> of the dibilitating diseases that plague so many. Modern medicine

can

> keep all of us alive for a long time, but cannot always give us a

good

> quality of life.

> And only then if one has the money required to take advantage of hi-

tec

> medical care.

> I think it takes a healthy body to really give one a really good

> quality of life. At least it does for me.

>

> Belinda

>

> rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken@> wrote:

> >

> > does the diet help a person live longer? any studies that support

> > that? so much of this seems to be folks sharing their own

> > experiences, which is fine. and the books seem to be collections

of

> > stories too. but since this has been around for such a long time,

> > seems like there would be scads of folks in their 90's and beyond

that

> > support this. thanks.

> > take care,

> > Lynda

> >

Terry Lynn Bakhtiari

> May God bless you

> Today and always.

> www.terrywithpcos.blogspot.com

>

>

 

> Got a little couch potato?

> Check out fun summer activities for kids.

>

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yes indeedy doody..

 

some say grey hair can be made to turn back to colored once you stop

the poison of cooked food..

 

im eagerly watching for this....

 

anna

 

On 6/12/07, potato <potato wrote:

> Hi Belinda, Yes, what I want is the quality of life and I feel so much

> better on raw also look better but did not think it was that bad

> untill tonight. I went with by dd to a meeting she had for being a

> trucker broker and did not want to be out late tonight driving home

> for she works on Eastertime and we live in western time. Well the man

> was coming on to me and I told him I was to old for him and he could

> not belive it for how I looked and talked. That did make me feel good.

> Well I havae had to show my ID to get a discount at some places, not

> old enough for it. I don't have gray hair it is thin but that is

> because I burned it off when a fire blow up in my face and melted my

> coat even.

>

> This raw food has something to it. I don't take meds and sometimes

> when I'm around people my age or about all they talk about is how much

> they take and so on and on. It make me tired.

>

> Theresa \o/

>

>

>

 

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yes, I know because mine has and I'm not even on it all the time but I

can see a difference and I like it so it makes me want to stay on full

time. I started to see the big difference when I went to the drink

made from wheat sprouts and then make my green drink from it.

 

Theresa \o/

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youve lost your grey????

 

really?

 

tell us about it !

 

anna

 

On 6/13/07, potato <potato wrote:

> yes, I know because mine has and I'm not even on it all the time but I

> can see a difference and I like it so it makes me want to stay on full

> time. I started to see the big difference when I went to the drink

> made from wheat sprouts and then make my green drink from it.

>

> Theresa \o/

>

>

>

 

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Call me a skeptic, How can grey hair turn back to colored " once you stop the

poison of cooked food " ?

 

When a colored hair turns grey it is because it is dead. It has lost it's

pigment. How can pigment be restored when it is gone? How can you bring life

after death of a hair/ It just does not compute to me.

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Anna Bishop <mowthpeece

rawfood

Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:09:01 AM

Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging

 

 

yes indeedy doody..

 

some say grey hair can be made to turn back to colored once you stop

the poison of cooked food..

 

im eagerly watching for this....

 

anna

 

On 6/12/07, potato <potato wrote:

> Hi Belinda, Yes, what I want is the quality of life and I feel so much

> better on raw also look better but did not think it was that bad

> untill tonight. I went with by dd to a meeting she had for being a

> trucker broker and did not want to be out late tonight driving home

> for she works on Eastertime and we live in western time. Well the man

> was coming on to me and I told him I was to old for him and he could

> not belive it for how I looked and talked. That did make me feel good.

> Well I havae had to show my ID to get a discount at some places, not

> old enough for it. I don't have gray hair it is thin but that is

> because I burned it off when a fire blow up in my face and melted my

> coat even.

>

> This raw food has something to it. I don't take meds and sometimes

> when I'm around people my age or about all they talk about is how much

> they take and so on and on. It make me tired.

>

> Theresa \o/

>

>

>

 

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oh jeannie

 

youre so cute..

 

doesnt compute....i like that....all hair is dead..even colored..its

the rejuvination of the cell theyr talkin about..stop the poison and

the cell returns to health...

 

im noooot the expert on this..i just have read this from many

published raw foodists...its worth looking into tho huh? i was

starting to get a lot of grey in months past..i wasnt happy bout it!

 

peace

anna

 

On 6/14/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

> Call me a skeptic, How can grey hair turn back to colored " once you stop the

> poison of cooked food " ?

>

> When a colored hair turns grey it is because it is dead. It has lost it's

> pigment. How can pigment be restored when it is gone? How can you bring life

> after death of a hair/ It just does not compute to me.

>

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

>

>

>

>

> Anna Bishop <mowthpeece

> rawfood

> Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:09:01 AM

> Re: [Raw Food] Re: aging

>

>

> yes indeedy doody..

>

> some say grey hair can be made to turn back to colored once you stop

> the poison of cooked food..

>

> im eagerly watching for this....

>

> anna

>

> On 6/12/07, potato <potato wrote:

> > Hi Belinda, Yes, what I want is the quality of life and I feel so much

> > better on raw also look better but did not think it was that bad

> > untill tonight. I went with by dd to a meeting she had for being a

> > trucker broker and did not want to be out late tonight driving home

> > for she works on Eastertime and we live in western time. Well the man

> > was coming on to me and I told him I was to old for him and he could

> > not belive it for how I looked and talked. That did make me feel good.

> > Well I havae had to show my ID to get a discount at some places, not

> > old enough for it. I don't have gray hair it is thin but that is

> > because I burned it off when a fire blow up in my face and melted my

> > coat even.

> >

> > This raw food has something to it. I don't take meds and sometimes

> > when I'm around people my age or about all they talk about is how much

> > they take and so on and on. It make me tired.

> >

> > Theresa \o/

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yes, It is starting to go away. I did not have much but it is going

now and my hair is getting thicker even and that is something for me

because I did scourch it off in the front 11 years ago and now it is

starting to grow. I havea done some study and decided to try drinking

water made from wheat sprouts and it has made me feel better along

with watermelon and other greens. right now it is mostly the water and

melon.

 

Theresa \o/

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outstanding!

 

how old are you? Thats fantastic!

 

anna

 

On 6/14/07, potato <potato wrote:

> Yes, It is starting to go away. I did not have much but it is going

> now and my hair is getting thicker even and that is something for me

> because I did scourch it off in the front 11 years ago and now it is

> starting to grow. I havea done some study and decided to try drinking

> water made from wheat sprouts and it has made me feel better along

> with watermelon and other greens. right now it is mostly the water and

> melon.

>

> Theresa \o/

>

>

 

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I am probably only about 3-5% grey, but when I pull out a grey hair it is

sometimes dark on the root end. So I would have to assume that some of my roots

are turning back dark again. I think when our cells are getting the nourishment

and oxygen they require, anything is possible.

 

Sharon

In our hearts we plan our day, but it is God who determines our steps. Proverbs

16:9

 

 

outstanding!

 

how old are you? Thats fantastic!

 

anna

 

On 6/14/07, potato<potato@integritycom>

<potato<potato> wrote:

> Yes, It is starting to go away. I did not have much but it is going

> now and my hair is getting thicker even and that is something for me

> because I did scourch it off in the front 11 years ago and now it is

> starting to grow. I havea done some study and decided to try drinking

> water made from wheat sprouts and it has made me feel better along

> with watermelon and other greens. right now it is mostly the water and

> melon.

>

> Theresa \o/

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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well i am intensely motivated to see this particular benefit manifest...

 

elchanan, the drill sergeant, thinks im gonna have to be in

exceptional health to see it...

 

well so be it then!

 

for THAT ill do it...

 

anna 8-P

 

On 6/14/07, vegigran <vegigran wrote:

> I am probably only about 3-5% grey, but when I pull out a grey hair it is

> sometimes dark on the root end. So I would have to assume that some of my

> roots are turning back dark again. I think when our cells are getting the

> nourishment and oxygen they require, anything is possible.

>

> Sharon

> In our hearts we plan our day, but it is God who determines our steps.

> Proverbs 16:9

>

>

> outstanding!

>

> how old are you? Thats fantastic!

>

> anna

>

> On 6/14/07, potato<potato@integritycom>

> <potato<potato> wrote:

> > Yes, It is starting to go away. I did not have much but it is going

> > now and my hair is getting thicker even and that is something for me

> > because I did scourch it off in the front 11 years ago and now it is

> > starting to grow. I havea done some study and decided to try drinking

> > water made from wheat sprouts and it has made me feel better along

> > with watermelon and other greens. right now it is mostly the water and

> > melon.

> >

> > Theresa \o/

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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