omg i have to tell you people what just happened!

[Guest guest]

ok,,,i was gonna be 100% but ...big but...but im glad it happened....cuz of

what i learned....

 

i had a bagged salad with low cal dressing,,i didnt think about the

dressing...thought, lo cal..

so what,,this wont matter...what could it hurt, ive barely eaten in 2

days....

 

within 30min of eating the salad....i had an OVERWHELMING desire to EAT...

 

and i dont mean have a little somethin somethin..i mean i wanted

SOMETHING....big, heavy,

gutt filling!!....it was so strong i ALMOST broke into the milk and wheat

cereal that i havent

thrown away yet.....(i cant eat that...and dont under normal circumstances

even consider it

because of how badly it affects me, i just havent gotten around to throwing

it out)...

 

this is IMPOSSIBLE....i dont want this stuff normally....this craving was

BIZARRE...

even during pms...

 

i have barely eaten in 2 days, and i felt fine....a little hunger..nothing

more...why would i

all of a sudden,,and it was sudden...want this crap? - i didnt eat it..its

really poison for me..

but i sure wanted to....like i was possessed or something..

 

so i went to the ingredient list on the bag....son of a b-tch 3rd ingredient

MSG!

 

people this isnt funny..this stuff doesnt just pique your palate...there was

a bonafide

DRAW to STUFF my face!!! ive had only watermelon for 2 days and i didnt want

any

other food....i was ready to blow even my basic food " allergy " rules let

alone raw food

rules...

 

if i hadnt of noticed how extreme the shift in my mood was and how sudden it

was,

i would have eaten it....it just struck me as totally not myself...so i just

said NO and

went to the trash to read the ingredients..

 

but finding out the craving was *artificial *and was *chemical* just opened

up a whole

new view of things for me....

 

this stuff is a drug. with an absolute purpose. just like that article

said....i will never

again consume anything that could potentially have that sh*t....ive just

become

obsessive compulsive.!

 

i wouldnt go to the trouble of posting something like this if my sense of

reality wasnt

just seriously shaken..ive never experienced anything like this...

 

i feel like i just saw a ghost.

 

you guys dont have to believe me, you can experiment on yourselves, as awful

as

that sounds...but this is serious...you guys need to know..

 

--

Anna

 

 

" A fool can not understand wisdom even if he associates with a sage. " -

Buddha

 

" Do not throw pearls to swine, lest they trample over them and attack you. "

- Jesus

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-

Anna Bishop

>i had a bagged salad with low cal dressing,,i didnt think about the

dressing...thought, lo cal..

so what,,this wont matter...what could it hurt, ive barely eaten in 2

days....

 

within 30min of eating the salad....i had an OVERWHELMING desire to EAT...

>so i went to the ingredient list on the bag....son of a b-tch 3rd

>ingredient

MSG!

 

Thanks for sharing this, Anna, I'm more than happy to learn from your

experience! I -think- not certain, but I vaguely recall hearing about 15

years ago that MSG had been outlawed in Australia. I could be wrong, but

there was a big song and dance about how bad it was, and how most chinese

food has it in it, and so on. So not sure if I can blame my cravings on

that, hehe.

 

I have a basic " rule " , implemented a few months ago, that I don't buy

anything packaged, or if I must, I read the label first (can't remember if

you have it in the US, but here packaged food has to have a nutrition label,

as well as ingredients, stating how much fat, protein, carbs, any vitamins

or minerals, including sodium, etc), and if it's got a number I put it back.

I vaguely recall reading or hearing somewhere recently, that MSG is derived

from a chemical found in apples, so they often list it as " natural

flavouring " (can't cite a source, it could have been here or foodlab, or one

of the online sources I've been studying). So now I just don't get anything

packaged, except our raw almonds. Unfortunately, my parents aren't as picky.

 

Caron

[Guest guest]

yes we have those labels too,,but i never worried about msg..

 

this gives a whole new spin to why were hungry 1hr after eating chinese

food....people joke that its cuz its so high in carbs..fresh veggies,

etc..thats not it at all is it.....

 

does anyone remember that red shaker bottle of stuff called " Accent " that

was out in the 70s? that was pure shakable msg..it was taken off the

market..but i remember it....it tasted like salt,,those sob's tried to have

us use it on our own home cooked food!!!!

 

i am so freaked out right now, i cant tell you....i HATE feeling out of

control...and that stuff

made my thinking change!! i might as well have been a meth addict for the

pull of it...this is not acceptable.

 

this would have gone unnoticed if i hadnt of eaten so clean for that last 2

days...

 

if anyone else has this experience, let us know how you feel during the

process...

 

thx

anna

 

On 6/12/07, Caron <carongroups wrote:

>

>

> -

> Anna Bishop

> >i had a bagged salad with low cal dressing,,i didnt think about the

> dressing...thought, lo cal..

> so what,,this wont matter...what could it hurt, ive barely eaten in 2

> days....

>

> within 30min of eating the salad....i had an OVERWHELMING desire to EAT...

> >so i went to the ingredient list on the bag....son of a b-tch 3rd

> >ingredient

> MSG!

>

> Thanks for sharing this, Anna, I'm more than happy to learn from your

> experience! I -think- not certain, but I vaguely recall hearing about 15

> years ago that MSG had been outlawed in Australia. I could be wrong, but

> there was a big song and dance about how bad it was, and how most chinese

> food has it in it, and so on. So not sure if I can blame my cravings on

> that, hehe.

>

> I have a basic " rule " , implemented a few months ago, that I don't buy

> anything packaged, or if I must, I read the label first (can't remember if

> you have it in the US, but here packaged food has to have a nutrition

> label,

> as well as ingredients, stating how much fat, protein, carbs, any vitamins

> or minerals, including sodium, etc), and if it's got a number I put it

> back.

> I vaguely recall reading or hearing somewhere recently, that MSG is

> derived

> from a chemical found in apples, so they often list it as " natural

> flavouring " (can't cite a source, it could have been here or foodlab, or

> one

> of the online sources I've been studying). So now I just don't get

> anything

> packaged, except our raw almonds. Unfortunately, my parents aren't as

> picky.

>

> Caron

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think Accent was out even in the 90s wasn't it?

I had this happen with sugar quite a few times when I went vegan/no sugar (not

yet raw)

If I bought something w/o reading the label I wouldn't think anything of it

until I got very hungry about 1/2 later. It was then I realized my eating habits

were way more physiological than psychological - that was good. The bad part was

the detox. For me it was any chemical but mostly sugar (even " natural " ) or sugar

substitute. I eventually learned that it took 3 days for me to no longer feel

the effects. I also learned to read every label and bring lots of food to

parties.

 

Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote:

yes we have those labels too,,but i never worried about msg..

 

this gives a whole new spin to why were hungry 1hr after eating chinese

food....people joke that its cuz its so high in carbs..fresh veggies,

etc..thats not it at all is it.....

 

does anyone remember that red shaker bottle of stuff called " Accent " that

was out in the 70s? that was pure shakable msg..it was taken off the

market..but i remember it....it tasted like salt,,those sob's tried to have

us use it on our own home cooked food!!!!

 

i am so freaked out right now, i cant tell you....i HATE feeling out of

control...and that stuff

made my thinking change!! i might as well have been a meth addict for the

pull of it...this is not acceptable.

 

this would have gone unnoticed if i hadnt of eaten so clean for that last 2

days...

 

if anyone else has this experience, let us know how you feel during the

process...

 

thx

anna

 

On 6/12/07, Caron <carongroups wrote:

>

>

> -

> Anna Bishop

> >i had a bagged salad with low cal dressing,,i didnt think about the

> dressing...thought, lo cal..

> so what,,this wont matter...what could it hurt, ive barely eaten in 2

> days....

>

> within 30min of eating the salad....i had an OVERWHELMING desire to EAT...

> >so i went to the ingredient list on the bag....son of a b-tch 3rd

> >ingredient

> MSG!

>

> Thanks for sharing this, Anna, I'm more than happy to learn from your

> experience! I -think- not certain, but I vaguely recall hearing about 15

> years ago that MSG had been outlawed in Australia. I could be wrong, but

> there was a big song and dance about how bad it was, and how most chinese

> food has it in it, and so on. So not sure if I can blame my cravings on

> that, hehe.

>

> I have a basic " rule " , implemented a few months ago, that I don't buy

> anything packaged, or if I must, I read the label first (can't remember if

> you have it in the US, but here packaged food has to have a nutrition

> label,

> as well as ingredients, stating how much fat, protein, carbs, any vitamins

> or minerals, including sodium, etc), and if it's got a number I put it

> back.

> I vaguely recall reading or hearing somewhere recently, that MSG is

> derived

> from a chemical found in apples, so they often list it as " natural

> flavouring " (can't cite a source, it could have been here or foodlab, or

> one

> of the online sources I've been studying). So now I just don't get

> anything

> packaged, except our raw almonds. Unfortunately, my parents aren't as

> picky.

>

> Caron

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

wow....if sugar did this to me...id be lost...what happened was so

strong and so out of character it scared me...

 

and it pissed me off...not good.

 

i guess we all need something to shake us up occasionally dont we?

 

and i dont kno when accent was removed if it really was cuz i didnt

use it..but i remember the commercials...

 

now i have something to rate it against...

 

my world has been rocked...now im gonna have to spread the word..my

friends are gonna hate me...

 

thank g-d i didnt give in..i wudda felt like a failure..and all this

time i thought it was me...

 

and you guys already knew this! I am soooo behind on this curve...

 

elchanan where are you? I could sure use your pearls right about

now...i miss your information!

 

where o where cud u be?

 

anna

 

On 6/12/07, Deanna <drl8994 wrote:

> I think Accent was out even in the 90s wasn't it?

> I had this happen with sugar quite a few times when I went vegan/no sugar

> (not yet raw)

> If I bought something w/o reading the label I wouldn't think anything of

> it until I got very hungry about 1/2 later. It was then I realized my eating

> habits were way more physiological than psychological - that was good. The

> bad part was the detox. For me it was any chemical but mostly sugar (even

> " natural " ) or sugar substitute. I eventually learned that it took 3 days for

> me to no longer feel the effects. I also learned to read every label and

> bring lots of food to parties.

>

> Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote:

> yes we have those labels too,,but i never worried about msg..

>

> this gives a whole new spin to why were hungry 1hr after eating chinese

> food....people joke that its cuz its so high in carbs..fresh veggies,

> etc..thats not it at all is it.....

>

> does anyone remember that red shaker bottle of stuff called " Accent " that

> was out in the 70s? that was pure shakable msg..it was taken off the

> market..but i remember it....it tasted like salt,,those sob's tried to have

> us use it on our own home cooked food!!!!

>

> i am so freaked out right now, i cant tell you....i HATE feeling out of

> control...and that stuff

> made my thinking change!! i might as well have been a meth addict for the

> pull of it...this is not acceptable.

>

> this would have gone unnoticed if i hadnt of eaten so clean for that last 2

> days...

>

> if anyone else has this experience, let us know how you feel during the

> process...

>

> thx

> anna

>

> On 6/12/07, Caron <carongroups wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > Anna Bishop

> > >i had a bagged salad with low cal dressing,,i didnt think about the

> > dressing...thought, lo cal..

> > so what,,this wont matter...what could it hurt, ive barely eaten in 2

> > days....

> >

> > within 30min of eating the salad....i had an OVERWHELMING desire to EAT...

> > >so i went to the ingredient list on the bag....son of a b-tch 3rd

> > >ingredient

> > MSG!

> >

> > Thanks for sharing this, Anna, I'm more than happy to learn from your

> > experience! I -think- not certain, but I vaguely recall hearing about 15

> > years ago that MSG had been outlawed in Australia. I could be wrong, but

> > there was a big song and dance about how bad it was, and how most chinese

> > food has it in it, and so on. So not sure if I can blame my cravings on

> > that, hehe.

> >

> > I have a basic " rule " , implemented a few months ago, that I don't buy

> > anything packaged, or if I must, I read the label first (can't remember if

> > you have it in the US, but here packaged food has to have a nutrition

> > label,

> > as well as ingredients, stating how much fat, protein, carbs, any vitamins

> > or minerals, including sodium, etc), and if it's got a number I put it

> > back.

> > I vaguely recall reading or hearing somewhere recently, that MSG is

> > derived

> > from a chemical found in apples, so they often list it as " natural

> > flavouring " (can't cite a source, it could have been here or foodlab, or

> > one

> > of the online sources I've been studying). So now I just don't get

> > anything

> > packaged, except our raw almonds. Unfortunately, my parents aren't as

> > picky.

> >

> > Caron

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

" does anyone remember that red shaker bottle of stuff called " Accent " that

was out in the 70s? that was pure shakable msg..it was taken off the

market..but i remember it....it tasted like salt,,those sob's tried to have

us use it on our own home cooked food!!!! "

 

 

It is still on the market. My neighbor is a frequent user of the stuff. They do

alot of bbq's and they use it on all their meat. Alot of people are sensitive to

it but many are not so they are not aware of the ill effects it causes for them.

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Anna Bishop <mowthpeece

rawfood

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:52:22 PM

Re: [Raw Food] omg i have to tell you people what just happened!

 

 

yes we have those labels too,,but i never worried about msg..

 

this gives a whole new spin to why were hungry 1hr after eating chinese

food....people joke that its cuz its so high in carbs..fresh veggies,

etc..thats not it at all is it.....

 

does anyone remember that red shaker bottle of stuff called " Accent " that

was out in the 70s? that was pure shakable msg..it was taken off the

market..but i remember it....it tasted like salt,,those sob's tried to have

us use it on our own home cooked food!!!!

 

i am so freaked out right now, i cant tell you....i HATE feeling out of

control...and that stuff

made my thinking change!! i might as well have been a meth addict for the

pull of it...this is not acceptable.

 

this would have gone unnoticed if i hadnt of eaten so clean for that last 2

days...

 

if anyone else has this experience, let us know how you feel during the

process...

 

thx

anna

 

On 6/12/07, Caron <carongroups wrote:

>

>

> -

> Anna Bishop

> >i had a bagged salad with low cal dressing,,i didnt think about the

> dressing...thought, lo cal..

> so what,,this wont matter...what could it hurt, ive barely eaten in 2

> days....

>

> within 30min of eating the salad....i had an OVERWHELMING desire to EAT...

> >so i went to the ingredient list on the bag....son of a b-tch 3rd

> >ingredient

> MSG!

>

> Thanks for sharing this, Anna, I'm more than happy to learn from your

> experience! I -think- not certain, but I vaguely recall hearing about 15

> years ago that MSG had been outlawed in Australia. I could be wrong, but

> there was a big song and dance about how bad it was, and how most chinese

> food has it in it, and so on. So not sure if I can blame my cravings on

> that, hehe.

>

> I have a basic " rule " , implemented a few months ago, that I don't buy

> anything packaged, or if I must, I read the label first (can't remember if

> you have it in the US, but here packaged food has to have a nutrition

> label,

> as well as ingredients, stating how much fat, protein, carbs, any vitamins

> or minerals, including sodium, etc), and if it's got a number I put it

> back.

> I vaguely recall reading or hearing somewhere recently, that MSG is

> derived

> from a chemical found in apples, so they often list it as " natural

> flavouring " (can't cite a source, it could have been here or foodlab, or

> one

> of the online sources I've been studying). So now I just don't get

> anything

> packaged, except our raw almonds. Unfortunately, my parents aren't as

> picky.

>

> Caron

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

its still out!?......wow

 

yes....after talking to my friend whos premed..degreed in physiology

and all that...she confirms that msg does indeed cause the pancreas to

triple its release of insulin...

 

and that some people are more sensitive than others.... That would be

me....had i not by accident been clean for 3 days before trying i

might never have isolated it.....one of those defining moments for

me....been 100% since...

 

anna

 

On 6/14/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

> " does anyone remember that red shaker bottle of stuff called " Accent " that

> was out in the 70s? that was pure shakable msg..it was taken off the

> market..but i remember it....it tasted like salt,,those sob's tried to have

> us use it on our own home cooked food!!!! "

>

>

> It is still on the market. My neighbor is a frequent user of the stuff. They

> do alot of bbq's and they use it on all their meat. Alot of people are

> sensitive to it but many are not so they are not aware of the ill effects it

> causes for them.

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

>

>

>

>

> Anna Bishop <mowthpeece

> rawfood

> Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:52:22 PM

> Re: [Raw Food] omg i have to tell you people what just happened!

>

>

> yes we have those labels too,,but i never worried about msg..

>

> this gives a whole new spin to why were hungry 1hr after eating chinese

> food....people joke that its cuz its so high in carbs..fresh veggies,

> etc..thats not it at all is it.....

>

> does anyone remember that red shaker bottle of stuff called " Accent " that

> was out in the 70s? that was pure shakable msg..it was taken off the

> market..but i remember it....it tasted like salt,,those sob's tried to have

> us use it on our own home cooked food!!!!

>

> i am so freaked out right now, i cant tell you....i HATE feeling out of

> control...and that stuff

> made my thinking change!! i might as well have been a meth addict for the

> pull of it...this is not acceptable.

>

> this would have gone unnoticed if i hadnt of eaten so clean for that last 2

> days...

>

> if anyone else has this experience, let us know how you feel during the

> process...

>

> thx

> anna

>

> On 6/12/07, Caron <carongroups wrote:

> >

> >

> > -

> > Anna Bishop

> > >i had a bagged salad with low cal dressing,,i didnt think about the

> > dressing...thought, lo cal..

> > so what,,this wont matter...what could it hurt, ive barely eaten in 2

> > days....

> >

> > within 30min of eating the salad....i had an OVERWHELMING desire to EAT...

> > >so i went to the ingredient list on the bag....son of a b-tch 3rd

> > >ingredient

> > MSG!

> >

> > Thanks for sharing this, Anna, I'm more than happy to learn from your

> > experience! I -think- not certain, but I vaguely recall hearing about 15

> > years ago that MSG had been outlawed in Australia. I could be wrong, but

> > there was a big song and dance about how bad it was, and how most chinese

> > food has it in it, and so on. So not sure if I can blame my cravings on

> > that, hehe.

> >

> > I have a basic " rule " , implemented a few months ago, that I don't buy

> > anything packaged, or if I must, I read the label first (can't remember if

> > you have it in the US, but here packaged food has to have a nutrition

> > label,

> > as well as ingredients, stating how much fat, protein, carbs, any vitamins

> > or minerals, including sodium, etc), and if it's got a number I put it

> > back.

> > I vaguely recall reading or hearing somewhere recently, that MSG is

> > derived

> > from a chemical found in apples, so they often list it as " natural

> > flavouring " (can't cite a source, it could have been here or foodlab, or

> > one

> > of the online sources I've been studying). So now I just don't get

> > anything

> > packaged, except our raw almonds. Unfortunately, my parents aren't as

> > picky.

> >

> > Caron

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >