The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there any such thing?)

[Guest guest]

" Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you toot. "

 

 

 

Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans in any state,

this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

 

 

 

" Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

 

 

 

Elchanan

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

 

 

 

thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not edible

.....toxic even....

 

but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use soyu...dont

now....too salty....

 

thx

anna

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

LOL...you are in a mood....

 

i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

 

a

 

On 6/14/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you toot. "

>

>

>

> Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans in any state,

> this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

>

>

>

> " Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

>

>

>

> Elchanan

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

>

>

>

> thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not edible

> ....toxic even....

>

> but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use soyu...dont

> now....too salty....

>

> thx

> anna

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

See, I do eat beans (cooked to death, like everything else we

southerners cook:o)) and 99% of the time, they give me no problems at

all.

 

Belinda

 

rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote:

>

> LOL...you are in a mood....

>

> i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

>

> a

>

> On 6/14/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> > " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you

toot. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans in

any state,

> > this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

> >

> >

> >

> > " Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

> >

> >

> >

> > Elchanan

> >

> > _____

> >

> > rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> > Anna Bishop

> > Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

> > rawfood

> > Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

> >

> >

> >

> > thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not

edible

> > ....toxic even....

> >

> > but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use soyu...dont

> > now....too salty....

> >

> > thx

> > anna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What a gas!

 

 

 

Oh, no!!! Call 9-1-1!!

 

 

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:56 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there any such

thing?)

 

 

 

LOL...you are in a mood....

 

i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

 

a

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

im jealous!

 

i actually love beans...but i just dont like the gas....ugh... Im so

used to not noticing my digestion that any grumble and im miserable...

 

this type of diet breeds OCD huh?

 

anna

 

On 6/14/07, Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote:

> See, I do eat beans (cooked to death, like everything else we

> southerners cook:o)) and 99% of the time, they give me no problems at

> all.

>

> Belinda

>

> rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote:

> >

> > LOL...you are in a mood....

> >

> > i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

> >

> > a

> >

> > On 6/14/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> > > " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you

> toot. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans in

> any state,

> > > this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Elchanan

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > rawfood [rawfood ] On

> Behalf Of

> > > Anna Bishop

> > > Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

> > > rawfood

> > > Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not

> edible

> > > ....toxic even....

> > >

> > > but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use soyu...dont

> > > now....too salty....

> > >

> > > thx

> > > anna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Good heavens, what else do you eat, that your response is so blunted?

 

 

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Belinda

Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:16 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there any such

thing?)

 

 

 

See, I do eat beans (cooked to death, like everything else we

southerners cook:o)) and 99% of the time, they give me no problems at

all.

 

Belinda

 

rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com, " Anna

Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote:

>

> LOL...you are in a mood....

>

> i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

>

> a

>

> On 6/14/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> > " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you

toot. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans in

any state,

> > this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

> >

> >

> >

> > " Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

> >

> >

> >

> > Elchanan

> >

> > _____

> >

> > rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com

[rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com] On

Behalf Of

> > Anna Bishop

> > Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

> > rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com

> > Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

> >

> >

> >

> > thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not

edible

> > ....toxic even....

> >

> > but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use soyu...dont

> > now....too salty....

> >

> > thx

> > anna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

oh nnooo....DOONT....i have enuf 2 worry bout without havin people

reportin farts in progress!

 

LOL..

 

On 6/14/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> What a gas!

>

>

>

> Oh, no!!! Call 9-1-1!!

>

>

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:56 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there any such

> thing?)

>

>

>

> LOL...you are in a mood....

>

> i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

>

> a

 

[Guest guest]

Belinda,

 

I also loved cooked beans and rice. I have no ill effects from them because when

I soak them I add baking soda to the water which removes the enzyme that causes

the gas effect.

 

I still have dried beans in my pantry. Since I've been raw for 2 months now, I

have no use for them. However, I so love the taste of a good bowl of rice and

beans...(add some cornbread)......yummmm

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Belinda <MistyBlueTN

rawfood

Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:15:35 PM

Re: [Raw Food] The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there any such

thing?)

 

 

See, I do eat beans (cooked to death, like everything else we

southerners cook:o)) and 99% of the time, they give me no problems at

all.

 

Belinda

 

rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote:

>

> LOL...you are in a mood....

>

> i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

>

> a

>

> On 6/14/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> > " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you

toot. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans in

any state,

> > this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

> >

> >

> >

> > " Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

> >

> >

> >

> > Elchanan

> >

> > _____

> >

> > rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> > Anna Bishop

> > Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

> > rawfood

> > Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

> >

> >

> >

> > thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not

edible

> > ....toxic even....

> >

> > but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use soyu...dont

> > now....too salty....

> >

> > thx

> > anna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

oh oh..oh wait.....we went to the rice and beans!

 

wassup with that?

 

that is so not fair...

 

On 6/14/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

> Belinda,

>

> I also loved cooked beans and rice. I have no ill effects from them because

> when I soak them I add baking soda to the water which removes the enzyme

> that causes the gas effect.

>

> I still have dried beans in my pantry. Since I've been raw for 2 months now,

> I have no use for them. However, I so love the taste of a good bowl of rice

> and beans...(add some cornbread)......yummmm

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

>

>

>

>

> Belinda <MistyBlueTN

> rawfood

> Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:15:35 PM

> Re: [Raw Food] The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there any such

> thing?)

>

>

> See, I do eat beans (cooked to death, like everything else we

> southerners cook:o)) and 99% of the time, they give me no problems at

> all.

>

> Belinda

>

> rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote:

> >

> > LOL...you are in a mood....

> >

> > i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

> >

> > a

> >

> > On 6/14/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> > > " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you

> toot. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans in

> any state,

> > > this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Elchanan

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > rawfood [rawfood ] On

> Behalf Of

> > > Anna Bishop

> > > Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

> > > rawfood

> > > Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not

> edible

> > > ....toxic even....

> > >

> > > but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use soyu...dont

> > > now....too salty....

> > >

> > > thx

> > > anna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Ummm, I am not sure what you mean.)

 

Belinda

 

 

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Good heavens, what else do you eat, that your response is so

blunted?

>

>

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Belinda

> Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:16 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there

any such

> thing?)

>

>

>

> See, I do eat beans (cooked to death, like everything else we

> southerners cook:o)) and 99% of the time, they give me no problems

at

> all.

>

> Belinda

>

[Guest guest]

When we don't respond to something, that typically suggests we lack the

capacity to do so . that something else is going on, or that our system is

rather run down and no longer able to respond at a certain level, that sort

of thing. So one possibility is the overall pattern of what you are eating.

If you are sufficiently dehydrated, and/or if your digestive system is

sufficiently blocked (and the two usually occur together), then you might

not observe the gas. But you cannot mix sugar starch water and oxygen (all

of which are present, at least to some degree, in your digestive system when

you eat beans, beans and rice, etc.) and not get fermentation . production

of alcohol. And at least some gas would emerge as a byproduct. But it's the

alcohol that's the real problem

 

 

 

Elchanan

 

 

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Belinda

Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:22 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there any such

thing?)

 

 

 

Ummm, I am not sure what you mean.)

 

Belinda

 

rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com,

" Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Good heavens, what else do you eat, that your response is so

blunted?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Oh. Well, I don't know the answer as to why the bean do not seem to

cause me discomfort (most of the time). I have eaten beans of all

kinds all my life. I always figured my body was just use to them. LOL

 

But you cannot mix sugar starch water and oxygen (all

> of which are present, at least to some degree, in your digestive

system when

> you eat beans, beans and rice, etc.) and not get fermentation .

production

> of alcohol. And at least some gas would emerge as a byproduct. But

it's the

> alcohol that's the real problem

 

 

(as I imagine by body working as a still......makein' moonshine

whiskey........)

 

 

Belinda

 

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> When we don't respond to something, that typically suggests we lack

the

> capacity to do so . that something else is going on, or that our

system is

> rather run down and no longer able to respond at a certain level,

that sort

> of thing. So one possibility is the overall pattern of what you are

eating.

> If you are sufficiently dehydrated, and/or if your digestive system

is

> sufficiently blocked (and the two usually occur together), then you

might

> not observe the gas. >

>

>

> Elchanan

>

>

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Belinda

> Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:22 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there

any such

> thing?)

>

>

>

> Ummm, I am not sure what you mean.)

>

> Belinda

>

> rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com,

> " Elchanan " <Elchanan@> wrote:

> >

> > Good heavens, what else do you eat, that your response is so

> blunted?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I still eat one meal of cooked food a day. So I still eat beans

sometimes. I only discovered beans rice a few years ago. I grew up

eating pinto or white beans and cornbread. But now I like all kinds

of beans. From blackeyed peas, black or red beans, lima, butterbean,

purple hull peas, etc.

 

Oh and bean soup on a cold night is a favorite of mine.

 

 

I don't know if I will ever be 100% raw. The one time I tried, I did

it wrong I guess. I lost too much weight and was too weak and

thought I was going to freeze to death.

So I backed off and went at it more slowly. I do the raw thing much

better now. I have raw fruits and nuts in the morning, something

cooked at lunch and my favorite........green smoothie for supper.

In between, if there is in between, might be carrot apple juice,

fruit and/or nuts or seeds.

There are sometimes exceptions. I was with friends and ate a small

amount of some cooked foods,(you guessed it, beans was involved LOL)

and finished it off with some fruit that I had brought. Id id good

though, I ate the fruit and not the ice cream cake or cheese cake

that was calling my name.

 

I am still trying to figure out how to do the raw/healthy eating when

with a bunch of other folks that brings and eats anything and

everything. without drawing a lot of attention to myself or hurting

others feelings when I don't eat their dishes that they bring.

 

 

Belinda

 

 

 

rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> Belinda,

>

> I also loved cooked beans and rice. I have no ill effects from them

because when I soak them I add baking soda to the water which

removes the enzyme that causes the gas effect.

>

> I still have dried beans in my pantry. Since I've been raw for 2

months now, I have no use for them. However, I so love the taste of a

good bowl of rice and beans...(add some cornbread)......yummmm

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised

to no one.

>

>

>

>

> Belinda <MistyBlueTN

> rawfood

> Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:15:35 PM

> Re: [Raw Food] The simple truth about beans (WAS: Is there

any such thing?)

>

>

> See, I do eat beans (cooked to death, like everything else we

> southerners cook:o)) and 99% of the time, they give me no problems

at

> all.

>

> Belinda

>

> rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece@> wrote:

> >

> > LOL...you are in a mood....

> >

> > i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

> >

> > a

> >

> > On 6/14/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@> wrote:

> > > " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more

you

> toot. "

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans

in

> any state,

> > > this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Elchanan

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > rawfood [rawfood ]

On

> Behalf Of

> > > Anna Bishop

> > > Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

> > > rawfood

> > > Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not

> edible

> > > ....toxic even....

> > >

> > > but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use

soyu...dont

> > > now....too salty....

> > >

> > > thx

> > > anna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

ha ha ha that was cute

 

Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: " Beans, beans, the musical

fruit, the more you eat, the more you toot. "

 

Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans in any state,

this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

 

" Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

 

Elchanan

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

 

thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not edible

.....toxic even....

 

but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use soyu...dont

now....too salty....

 

thx

anna

 

 

[Guest guest]

Belinda you are lucky! If I eat beans it gets ugly.

 

Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: See, I do eat beans (cooked to

death, like everything else we

southerners cook:o)) and 99% of the time, they give me no problems at

all.

 

Belinda

 

rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote:

>

> LOL...you are in a mood....

>

> i dont eat beans....just for that reason.....

>

> a

>

> On 6/14/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> > " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat, the more you

toot. "

> >

> >

> >

> > Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly digest beans in

any state,

> > this saying would not exist. After all, no one says

> >

> >

> >

> > " Bananas, bananas, the musical fruit . " now do they??

> >

> >

> >

> > Elchanan

> >

> > _____

> >

> > rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> > Anna Bishop

> > Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:05 AM

> > rawfood

> > Re: [Raw Food] Is there any such thing?

> >

> >

> >

> > thats what i thought...thank you....raw beans at all are not

edible

> > ....toxic even....

> >

> > but i dont use even the fermented stuff...used to use soyu...dont

> > now....too salty....

> >

> > thx

> > anna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Elchanan wrote [[ " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat,

the more you toot. " Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly

digest beans in any state, this saying would not exist.]]

** The only beans I eat are the ones I sprout (mung, lental, aduki);

otherwise, for those who do deal with gas, try cooking your beans in 1

cup of vinegar. Just add it to the cooking water, it removes the gas.

 

.... Yngona

GA_Organic-

[Guest guest]

Other than the discomfort and odor..is there any reason to believe gas

by itself is bad?

 

it hurts cuz we dont cut loose..

we dont cuz loose cuz society doesnt like bad smells.

it smells bad cuz most of it is bad rotting food...but what if it

isnt....is there not naturally occurring non offensive gas that can

just be released? Do wile animals not have gas?

 

just curious.

anna

 

On 6/16/07, Yngona Desmond <yngona wrote:

> Elchanan wrote [[ " Beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat,

> the more you toot. " Don't ya get it? If the human body could properly

> digest beans in any state, this saying would not exist.]]

> ** The only beans I eat are the ones I sprout (mung, lental, aduki);

> otherwise, for those who do deal with gas, try cooking your beans in 1

> cup of vinegar. Just add it to the cooking water, it removes the gas.

>

> ... Yngona

> GA_Organic-

>

>

>

>

>