Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. neal <kneel.pardoe rawfood Monday, June 18, 2007 11:10:57 AM Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cracking down..... On Monday 18 June 2007 13:37, jeannieh h wrote: > This doesn't seem to work for me. I don't know why. > > My body tells me to stop at every drive in. I have to ignore me and give me > what is good for me. I'm constantly telling myself no and explaining to > myself why it is not good for me. lol > > Perhaps " listening to your body " is only for the more " normal people " . > > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no > one. Jeannie, I respectfully suggest you look a little closer. You say your body tells you, how does it do this. What language does it use? How do you know you are getting the correct message? Good point Neal, it is actually me talking. I know I am getting the correct message when I turn into the drive throughs. lol I'm not saying I like obeying that message, I just do. I think it is the " food addict " " compulsive eater, in me acting out. Aren't you really saying that some physical feeling gets interpreted in the mind, appearing as thoughts? Thoughts as words telling you these stories about eating? I don't know what I'm saying other than the fact that my mind and/or body makes me do things I really wish I wouldn't do. lol Sounds insane really and it is to be honest. That is what this addiction thing does, it makes one do insane things. That is very depressing and the reason I am the size I am. It is also why I am really working so hard on making this raw a real lifestyle and not just a " fad diet " . How do you know the message isn't " there is something wrong with the body, it is craving poison, take action. " ? I don't know. That is my problem. I don't know. Perhaps the real problem is that I DON " T KNOW how to listen to my body or what it is trying to tell me. the body is roughly seven eighths of our 'human being', yet we only seem to listen to our heads. Well, I am not underestimating the fact that I really do need to learn how to understand what my body is trying to say if it is indeed trying to tell me something good. lol neal. Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 at the risk of offending those that think addictions are things out of our control..... but it comes from a place of love that wishes everyone health and happiness... so please consider.... after watching addicts for 24 years at work, after living with one for 7yrs, after watching myself giving in to fast food when i used to, after watching the MSG devil almost take my soul last week..... i can say, with no uncertain terms, that addictive behavior is a CHOICE. we choose to give in. we choose to asuage the cravings with the addictive substance. we choose that feeling in our mouth, over that feeling in our bodies. we choose to make all of those excuses and rationalizations that bring us from raw, to IN 'N " OUT. for the medical establishment it works to tell people " its not your fault " ... " alcoholism is a disease,,not a livestyle choice " ...it takes the ego out of it...and also being fat " isnt your fault " ..its your fat cells, or fast food's fault, or the msg's fault.. this is a current commercial these days " youre weight isnt your fault " is a slogan for a diet pill... i could have given in to the food thing last week but i CHOSE not to. i had NEVER had such a drive, and it was drug induced!..but i CHOSE not to listen to it. i wanted to stay raw MORE than i wanted the junk food... this is not a judgement on you jeannie, or anyone..we make choices for may *different reasons*... but denying that its a choice is holding you back from success, and anyone else that says " its not me! " ..... yes it is you. get in touch with that part of you that says " im going to drive thru today " .... why are you going to do that? no one is forcing you.....except you.....whos in charge of you if not you? what is it about the drivethru that you WANT MORE than being healthy?? i know its oversimplifying to say " just say no! " ...but in the end, it really does come to that. my ex CHOSE to drink...he CHOOSES to still.. he *likes the feeling after he drinks MORE than the feeling when he doesnt*. his cravings are uncomfortable, he doesnt like them..he wont tolerate them, he will drink. its the same with food. its a concious decision. if you want to continue to eat badly, then just admit that you are choosing that. its your life, you can do what you like. really. but if YOU really want to get healthy, then DECIDE you wont. and thats it. dont EVEN CONSIDER the possibility of you breaking your promise to yourself. eventually, it will be a habit, then a lifestyle. it wont be easy at first...the chemicals will call....it will pass... ask G-d for help during the tougher times...and it will pass. ive been 100% for 9 days...i never thought i could be..i was always 90% at most... it was a decision. i had it in me the whole time and didnt know it. it took a near miss for me to see it. .....and choose.... you can too. i wish you peace, and remember, it really IS aaaalll abouttt youuu!! smooches! anna On 6/18/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no > one. > > > > > neal <kneel.pardoe > rawfood > Monday, June 18, 2007 11:10:57 AM > Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cracking down..... > > > On Monday 18 June 2007 13:37, jeannieh h wrote: > > This doesn't seem to work for me. I don't know why. > > > > My body tells me to stop at every drive in. I have to ignore me and give > me > > what is good for me. I'm constantly telling myself no and explaining to > > myself why it is not good for me. lol > > > > Perhaps " listening to your body " is only for the more " normal people " . > > > > > > Jeannie > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no > > one. > > Jeannie, > > I respectfully suggest you look a little closer. You say your body tells > you, > how does it do this. What language does it use? How do you know you are > getting the correct message? > > Good point Neal, it is actually me talking. I know I am getting the > correct message when I turn into the drive throughs. lol > I'm not saying I like obeying that message, I just do. I think it is the > " food addict " " compulsive eater, in me acting out. > > > > Aren't you really saying that some physical feeling gets interpreted in > the > mind, appearing as thoughts? Thoughts as words telling you these stories > about eating? > I don't know what I'm saying other than the fact that my mind and/or body > makes me do things I really wish I wouldn't do. lol Sounds insane really > and it is to be honest. That is what this addiction thing does, it makes one > do insane things. That is very depressing and the reason I am the size I am. > It is also why I am really working so hard on making this raw a real > lifestyle and not just a " fad diet " . > > How do you know the message isn't " there is something wrong with the > body, it > is craving poison, take action. " ? > > I don't know. That is my problem. I don't know. Perhaps the real problem > is that I DON " T KNOW how to listen to my body or what it is trying to tell > me. > > the body is roughly seven eighths of our 'human being', yet we only seem > to > listen to our heads. > > Well, I am not underestimating the fact that I really do need to learn how > to understand what my body is trying to say if it is indeed trying to tell > me something good. lol > neal. > > Jeannie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 neal is right... there is a chain of thought that proceeds the addictive behavior. stop it as soon as you notice it. if its a conditioned response based on driving, you eat when you drive, so you get in the car and already youre thinking about food, then change that behavior... you still drive but do it differently...open windows you usually closed or vice versa...play different music, play a tape of something that makes you think....change the seats positions, put new things in the car...use aromatherapy to alter the smell in the car...hang new things in it... use whatever it takes to *change* the stimulus... use a different route to avoid the fast food place you like so much... and when the thought enters youre mind DECIDE to think of something else! just say NO. and stop thinking then and there about it,,,dont dwell on saying no..just say it, and think about another subject.... CHANGE THE TOPIC FROM FOOD TO LAUNDRY! if you think about saying no to food you are still thinking about the food... stop it...if youre hungry, eat healthy and STOP THINKING ABOUT IT. its over...done...laundry.....................(or whatever else is pressing 8-P) peace anna On 6/18/07, neal <kneel.pardoe wrote: > > Hi Jeannie > > On further reflection the stimulus could be that while you are driving > around > you see a drive-through; this starts up the train of thoughts, (which are > always a major part, if not all, of an addiction), this then drives the > action to go into the drive-through. > > If it as you say, why not at least try to observe in yourself exactly what > is > happening, exactly the sequence of events. Get to know what is going on by > observing. Just a suggestion. > > Just to clarify, an addiction is just repeated behaviour of doing the > correct > thing (the addiction) in order to get the needed reward. In other words it > is > a conditioned response. Getting to know exactly what is going on will put > you > in a better position to see what you might be able to do about it. > > you said " Perhaps the real problem is that I DON " T KNOW how to listen to > my > body or what it is trying to tell me. " > > Just stop listening to your mind. and be patient. > > neal. > > > On Monday 18 June 2007 17:37, jeannieh h wrote: > > > > >> Jeannie, > > > >> I respectfully suggest you look a little closer. You say your body > tells > >> you, how does it do this. What language does it use? How do you know > you > >> are getting the correct message? > >> > > Good point Neal, it is actually me talking. I know I am getting the > > correct message when I turn into the drive throughs. lol I'm not saying > I > > like obeying that message, I just do. I think it is the " food addict " > > " compulsive eater, in me acting out. > > > > > > > >> Aren't you really saying that some physical feeling gets interpreted in > the > >> mind, appearing as thoughts? Thoughts as words telling you these > stories > >> about eating? > > I don't know what I'm saying other than the fact that my mind and/or > body > > makes me do things I really wish I wouldn't do. lol Sounds insane > really > > and it is to be honest. That is what this addiction thing does, it makes > > one do insane things. That is very depressing and the reason I am the > size > > I am. It is also why I am really working so hard on making this raw a > real > > lifestyle and not just a " fad diet " . > > > >> How do you know the message isn't " there is something wrong with the > body, > >> it is craving poison, take action. " ? > > > > I don't know. That is my problem. I don't know. Perhaps the real problem > is > > that I DON " T KNOW how to listen to my body or what it is trying to tell > me. > > > >> the body is roughly seven eighths of our 'human being', yet we only > seem to > >> listen to our heads. > > > > Well, I am not underestimating the fact that I really do need to learn > how > > to understand what my body is trying to say if it is indeed trying to > tell > > me something good. lol > > >> neal. > > > > Jeannie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 our time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. neal <kneel.pardoe rawfood Monday, June 18, 2007 4:45:36 PM Re: listening to our bodies...Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cracking down..... Hi Jeannie On further reflection the stimulus could be that while you are driving around you see a drive-through; this starts up t What (I think) drives the action to go into the drive through is...........mmmmmmfood....I'm hungry....I want it....(I have $3.00, I can get 3 things from the dollare menu)lol. or... mmmmm......food...There is a lot of traffic...it's going to take me too long to get home...let me stop and get a whopper combo...then the drive won't be so bad.... or...mmmmmmmfood....wow...the (you name it) is on sale!!! I better get some at that price... These are but a few of the things that go through my mind he train of thoughts, (which are always a major part, if not all, of an addiction), this then drives the action to go into the drive-through. If it as you say, why not at least try to observe in yourself exactly what is happening, exactly the sequence of events. Get to know what is going on by observing. Just a suggestion. The above thoughts are going through my mind...this is what is happening, (that I am aware of). Just to clarify, an addiction is just repeated behaviour of doing the correct thing (the addiction) in order to get the needed reward. In other words it is a conditioned response. Getting to know exactly what is going on will put you in a better position to see what you might be able to do about it. It is a repeated behaviour, but not of doing the correct thing, (imo), because it is not the correct thing....it is the wrong thing to do. I am happy as I am eating it and saying all the mmmmmm's and yummm's etc... HOWEVER afterwards I am very angry at myself, upset at myself, and disappointed at the fact that I was not able to be stronger and not choose to go there. I really beat myself up about it, but it doesn't keep me from doing it. you said " Perhaps the real problem is that I DON " T KNOW how to listen to my body or what it is trying to tell me. " Just stop listening to your mind. and be patient. ok, I will try to do this... Thanks Neal, Jeannie neal. On Monday 18 June 2007 17:37, jeannieh h wrote: > >> Jeannie, > >> I respectfully suggest you look a little closer. You say your body tells >> you, how does it do this. What language does it use? How do you know you >> are getting the correct message? >> > Good point Neal, it is actually me talking. I know I am getting the > correct message when I turn into the drive throughs. lol I'm not saying I > like obeying that message, I just do. I think it is the " food addict " > " compulsive eater, in me acting out. > > > >> Aren't you really saying that some physical feeling gets interpreted in the >> mind, appearing as thoughts? Thoughts as words telling you these stories >> about eating? > I don't know what I'm saying other than the fact that my mind and/or body > makes me do things I really wish I wouldn't do. lol Sounds insane really > and it is to be honest. That is what this addiction thing does, it makes > one do insane things. That is very depressing and the reason I am the size > I am. It is also why I am really working so hard on making this raw a real > lifestyle and not just a " fad diet " . > >> How do you know the message isn't " there is something wrong with the body, >> it is craving poison, take action. " ? > > I don't know. That is my problem. I don't know. Perhaps the real problem is > that I DON " T KNOW how to listen to my body or what it is trying to tell me. > >> the body is roughly seven eighths of our 'human being', yet we only seem to >> listen to our heads. > > Well, I am not underestimating the fact that I really do need to learn how > to understand what my body is trying to say if it is indeed trying to tell > me something good. lol >> neal. > > Jeannie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Monday, June 18, 2007 3:45:31 PM Re: listening to our bodies...Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cracking down..... at the risk of offending those that think addictions are things out of our control..... but it comes from a place of love that wishes everyone health and happiness... so please consider.... At the risk of offending those that think they know about *my* addictions. This comes out of the same place of love that wishes everyone health, happiness and understanding.... after watching addicts for 24 years at work, after living with one for 7yrs, after watching myself giving in to fast food when i used to, after watching the MSG devil almost take my soul last week..... i can say, with no uncertain terms, that addictive behavior is a CHOICE. I don't know anyone that would argue that it is a choice.........however, it is a choice I would not make if I didn't have the compulsion to go that way. The fact that it is a choice is not the issue. we choose to give in. we choose to asuage the cravings with the addictive substance. we choose that feeling in our mouth, over that feeling in our bodies. we choose to make all of those excuses and rationalizations that bring us from raw, to IN 'N " OUT. duh!! of course it is a choice.....that's pretty much a no-brainer. for the medical establishment it works to tell people " its not your fault " ... " alcoholism is a disease,,not a livestyle choice " ...it takes the ego out of it...and also being fat " isnt your fault " ..its your fat cells, or fast food's fault, or the msg's fault.. this is a current commercial these days " youre weight isnt your fault " is a slogan for a diet pill... No one that I know of has ever told me " it is not your fault. " I know it is my fault. i could have given in to the food thing last week but i CHOSE not to. Bravo.......good for you........I'm truely happy for you. i had NEVER had such a drive, and it was drug induced!..but i CHOSE not to listen to it. i wanted to stay raw MORE than i wanted the junk food... Bravo.......good for you........I'm truely happy for you. this is not a judgement on you jeannie, or anyone..we make choices for may *different reasons*... but denying that its a choice is holding you back from success, and anyone else that says " its not me! " ............ ......and I am not judging you Anna for you choice of words...........but I have never denied that it was a choice I was making. yes it is you. get in touch with that part of you that says " im going to drive thru today " .... why are you going to do that? no one is forcing you.....except you.....whos in charge of you if not you? what is it about the drivethru that you WANT MORE than being healthy?? Food!! i know its oversimplifying to say " just say no! " ...but in the end, it really does come to that. To you perhaps, and those that are able to do it......... my ex CHOSE to drink...he CHOOSES to still.. he *likes the feeling after he drinks MORE than the feeling when he doesnt*. his cravings are uncomfortable, he doesnt like them..he wont tolerate them, he will drink. its the same with food. its a concious decision. if you want to continue to eat badly, then just admit that you are choosing that. its your life, you can do what you like. really. but if YOU really want to get healthy, then DECIDE you wont. and thats it. Thanks for stating the obvious Anna........LOL dont EVEN CONSIDER the possibility of you breaking your promise to yourself. eventually, it will be a habit, then a lifestyle. it wont be easy at first...the chemicals will call....it will pass... ask G-d for help during the tougher times...and it will pass. ive been 100% for 9 days...i never thought i could be..i was always 90% at most... Bravo.......good for you........I'm truely happy for you. it was a decision. I've been 100% raw going on 3 months now.... i had it in me the whole time and didnt know it. it took a near miss for me to see it. .....and choose.... Bravo.......good for you........I'm truely happy for you. you can too. i wish you peace, and remember, it really IS aaaalll abouttt youuu!! smooches! anna Back at ya! Jeannie On 6/18/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no > one. > > > > > neal <kneel.pardoe > rawfood > Monday, June 18, 2007 11:10:57 AM > Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cracking down..... > > > On Monday 18 June 2007 13:37, jeannieh h wrote: > > This doesn't seem to work for me. I don't know why. > > > > My body tells me to stop at every drive in. I have to ignore me and give > me > > what is good for me. I'm constantly telling myself no and explaining to > > myself why it is not good for me. lol > > > > Perhaps " listening to your body " is only for the more " normal people " . > > > > > > Jeannie > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no > > one. > > Jeannie, > > I respectfully suggest you look a little closer. You say your body tells > you, > how does it do this. What language does it use? How do you know you are > getting the correct message? > > Good point Neal, it is actually me talking. I know I am getting the > correct message when I turn into the drive throughs. lol > I'm not saying I like obeying that message, I just do. I think it is the > " food addict " " compulsive eater, in me acting out. > > > > Aren't you really saying that some physical feeling gets interpreted in > the > mind, appearing as thoughts? Thoughts as words telling you these stories > about eating? > I don't know what I'm saying other than the fact that my mind and/or body > makes me do things I really wish I wouldn't do. lol Sounds insane really > and it is to be honest. That is what this addiction thing does, it makes one > do insane things. That is very depressing and the reason I am the size I am. > It is also why I am really working so hard on making this raw a real > lifestyle and not just a " fad diet " . > > How do you know the message isn't " there is something wrong with the > body, it > is craving poison, take action. " ? > > I don't know. That is my problem. I don't know. Perhaps the real problem > is that I DON " T KNOW how to listen to my body or what it is trying to tell > me. > > the body is roughly seven eighths of our 'human being', yet we only seem > to > listen to our heads. > > Well, I am not underestimating the fact that I really do need to learn how > to understand what my body is trying to say if it is indeed trying to tell > me something good. lol > neal. > > Jeannie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Hi Jeannie On further reflection the stimulus could be that while you are driving around you see a drive-through; this starts up the train of thoughts, (which are always a major part, if not all, of an addiction), this then drives the action to go into the drive-through. If it as you say, why not at least try to observe in yourself exactly what is happening, exactly the sequence of events. Get to know what is going on by observing. Just a suggestion. Just to clarify, an addiction is just repeated behaviour of doing the correct thing (the addiction) in order to get the needed reward. In other words it is a conditioned response. Getting to know exactly what is going on will put you in a better position to see what you might be able to do about it. you said " Perhaps the real problem is that I DON " T KNOW how to listen to my body or what it is trying to tell me. " Just stop listening to your mind. and be patient. neal. On Monday 18 June 2007 17:37, jeannieh h wrote: > >> Jeannie, > >> I respectfully suggest you look a little closer. You say your body tells >> you, how does it do this. What language does it use? How do you know you >> are getting the correct message? >> > Good point Neal, it is actually me talking. I know I am getting the > correct message when I turn into the drive throughs. lol I'm not saying I > like obeying that message, I just do. I think it is the " food addict " > " compulsive eater, in me acting out. > > > >> Aren't you really saying that some physical feeling gets interpreted in the >> mind, appearing as thoughts? Thoughts as words telling you these stories >> about eating? > I don't know what I'm saying other than the fact that my mind and/or body > makes me do things I really wish I wouldn't do. lol Sounds insane really > and it is to be honest. That is what this addiction thing does, it makes > one do insane things. That is very depressing and the reason I am the size > I am. It is also why I am really working so hard on making this raw a real > lifestyle and not just a " fad diet " . > >> How do you know the message isn't " there is something wrong with the body, >> it is craving poison, take action. " ? > > I don't know. That is my problem. I don't know. Perhaps the real problem is > that I DON " T KNOW how to listen to my body or what it is trying to tell me. > >> the body is roughly seven eighths of our 'human being', yet we only seem to >> listen to our heads. > > Well, I am not underestimating the fact that I really do need to learn how > to understand what my body is trying to say if it is indeed trying to tell > me something good. lol >> neal. > > Jeannie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 ok jeannie, im confused..... are you eating junk food or not? if not, HOORRRAAAYYYY!!! my advice was for someone in the throws of burger hell,,,,not someone raw for 3 months! thats awesome!!!! how did i miss that??!! what the heck are neal and i telling you all this for??????????? girl youre kickin butt! anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I'm sorry that you are confused Anna, I don't know how you got that way. lol I don't know how you missed it. I can't answer that one for you. I am not eating junk food right now. I haven't for almost 3 months now. That doesn't mean I am cured from my addiction. I could fall off the wagon at any moment if I am not careful. No different than an alcoholic. Which is why I always go by the " one day at a time " mantra. Just for today, I will eat raw. It works for me, because I work it. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Monday, June 18, 2007 5:00:39 PM Re: listening to our bodies...Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cracking down..... ok jeannie, im confused..... are you eating junk food or not? if not, HOORRRAAAYYYY!!! my advice was for someone in the throws of burger hell,,,,not someone raw for 3 months! thats awesome!!!! how did i miss that??!! what the heck are neal and i telling you all this for??????????? girl youre kickin butt! anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Ok..i see.... i personally refuse to label myself a food addict..it would keep me thinking about the food. Even though ive been a junk food junkie my whole life. i call myself a raw foodist...so all i think about is keeping a raw food lifestyle.. i believe looking forward works better for me than looking backward....where im going is more important than where ive been....im not a junk food junkie anymore. I choose to leave that behind me. raw foodists dont eat mcdonalds....food addicts and junkfood junkies do. so its not even a temptation anymore. just sharing a few thoughts that work for me. peace anna On 6/18/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > I'm sorry that you are confused Anna, > > I don't know how you got that way. lol > > I don't know how you missed it. I can't answer that one for you. > > I am not eating junk food right now. I haven't for almost 3 months now. That > doesn't mean I am cured from my addiction. I could fall off the wagon at any > moment if I am not careful. No different than an alcoholic. Which is why I > always go by the " one day at a time " mantra. Just for today, I will eat raw. > It works for me, because I work it. > > > Jeannie > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Monday, June 18, 2007 5:00:39 PM > Re: listening to our bodies...Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cracking down..... > > > ok jeannie, > > im confused..... > > are you eating junk food or not? > > if not, HOORRRAAAYYYY!!! > > my advice was for someone in the throws of burger hell,,,,not someone raw > for 3 months! > thats awesome!!!! how did i miss that??!! > > what the heck are neal and i telling you all this for??????????? > > girl youre kickin butt! > > anna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 You choose the optimistic approach, I choose the realistic approach. (for me) You are making the assumption that you won't deviate from your raw journey. If it works for you then as I say...Bravo for you. I know from past history, it does not work for me. At least this has worked for me and is the reason I've made it for almost 3 months. The moment I get comfortable in thinking I have " made it " , that's when I tend to " fall off the wagon " . That's just me. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Anna Bishop <mowthpeece rawfood Monday, June 18, 2007 7:03:04 PM Re: listening to our bodies...Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cracking down..... Ok..i see.... i personally refuse to label myself a food addict..it would keep me thinking about the food. Even though ive been a junk food junkie my whole life. i call myself a raw foodist...so all i think about is keeping a raw food lifestyle.. i believe looking forward works better for me than looking backward....where im going is more important than where ive been....im not a junk food junkie anymore. I choose to leave that behind me. raw foodists dont eat mcdonalds....food addicts and junkfood junkies do. so its not even a temptation anymore. just sharing a few thoughts that work for me. peace anna On 6/18/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > I'm sorry that you are confused Anna, > > I don't know how you got that way. lol > > I don't know how you missed it. I can't answer that one for you. > > I am not eating junk food right now. I haven't for almost 3 months now. That > doesn't mean I am cured from my addiction. I could fall off the wagon at any > moment if I am not careful. No different than an alcoholic. Which is why I > always go by the " one day at a time " mantra. Just for today, I will eat raw. > It works for me, because I work it. > > > Jeannie > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece > rawfood > Monday, June 18, 2007 5:00:39 PM > Re: listening to our bodies...Re: [Raw Food] Re: Cracking down..... > > > ok jeannie, > > im confused..... > > are you eating junk food or not? > > if not, HOORRRAAAYYYY!!! > > my advice was for someone in the throws of burger hell,,,,not someone raw > for 3 months! > thats awesome!!!! how did i miss that??!! > > what the heck are neal and i telling you all this for??????????? > > girl youre kickin butt! > > anna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 - jeannieh h >At least this has worked for me and is the reason I've made it for almost 3 >months. The moment I get comfortable in thinking I have " made it " , that's >when I tend to " fall off the wagon " . That's just me. Hi Jeannie, Addictions are hard to break. I was a smoker for years when I found out I was pregnant with my son. I fought my addiction all through my pregnancy - it was easy at times, but not when my ex was on the phone. I was hanging out for the end of my pregnancy, not only so I could meet my baby, but so I could start smoking again! I'd always figured I'd quit when I was ready, but didn't feel ready yet. Anyway, the day finally came, and he hatched, and after I was up from surgery (long, complicated story), I asked that they bring him to me, but was told they couldn't yet because he was wheezing and needed chest xrays. I remembered that the Special Care nurse had gone out several times for a smoke when she was on shift during my labour, and had a feeling that was the problem, as my mother has the same reaction to just the smell of smoke. My suspicions were confirmed when the midwives commented on the fact that he stopped wheezing whenever he was brought to me for a feed, but started again when he went back to Special Care, until that nurse finished her shift. So I had to rethink my plans a bit - a lot of the other new mothers would go downstairs for a smoke, leaving their babies screaming for hours, and I just couldn't bring myself to do that. So I waited till we got home. I got my packet of smokes, and would sit outside smoking until he woke up, then would go have a shower and change my clothes, before I'd go near him, so he wouldn't wheeze. Late on the third night, it occured to me how utterly ridiculous I was being - I didn't enjoy the smokes anymore, as I usually smoked while I played computer games, and couldn't take my computer outside with me, and I'd obviously gotten over the physical addiction. Besides which, I was making my boy wait while I had a shower. That was my last smoke, and it's been nearly 3 years. I still get the occasional twinge when I see someone smoking, but mostly it's gone, and the smell of them makes me sick. There is a chance that if I went to the pub for a night out, I'd have a smoke, but as they don't have a creche, it's not likely to happen soon, hehe (not that I was one much for the pub anyway, but occasionally liked a game of pool). The physical addiction is the easy part - a few days or a couple of weeks, and it's gone. It's the emotional addiction, and more than that, the habit, that's hard to break. I still can't sit and do nothing - I have to be clicking my mouse, or knitting, or doing something with my hands. Probably why I don't read as much any more, because I have to hold the book, but it has to be still. Driving was a hard one for me - I used to drive thousands of kilometres up and down the coast every break, from uni to home and back again, smoking the whole way. When I started driving again after having a year off, it was really hard to keep focused on what I was doing. One thing that might help, though it may require a fall off the wagon, depending on how you do it, is to create negative associations in place of your emotional attachment to the things you're addicted to. When I first attempted to go raw, I had the craziest cravings, things I haven't eaten in years, and didn't much like back then. After reading what a few people said about making choices, I decided I'd -choose- to eat the things I craved, thus eliminating guilt, and let myself focus on how eating those things made me feel, physically, not emotionally. The belly ache, the bloated feeling, the headache, the dehydration, and all the other less pleasant side effects. On the other hand, I soon realised that, physically at least, I wasn't actually craving the pizza, or the burger, or whatever, I was actually craving food in general. If I ate an apple, or a handful of almonds, or whatever was on hand, the cravings were soon gone. It helps now, when I feel like jumping in the car and going for some junk, to tell myself I'm really craving food, and replace the image of the burger or the fast food logo with an image of an apple or similar, and go get something to eat. I've also doubled the amount of food I usually carry around for my boy, so I can have some too, without feeling like I'm " taking food out of his mouth " , as my mother so kindly puts it. You've made it 3 months, I'm aiming to make it a week - good luck to both of us! Caron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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