to Elchanan

June 18, 2007

Hello,

I have observed many of your comments and have appreciated

them. Humor, as of late as well.

I seriously would like to know what maybe a day of food is like for

you? What you might eat in a day or a week? I, this week, am

getting the 80/10/10 book. However, I just was curious- thought it

might help me out a bit.

Thanks!

Carly

June 19, 2007

Sure, Carly, I feel honored that you ask. Here's what I recall eating

yesterday.

One small watermelon.

About 15 bananas.

Some strawberries and blackberries.

1/4 lime

A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides are

sticky from their own sugar.

A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

One small handful of pistachios.

I don't always eat avocado, but since I'm using yesterday as my example ....

I don't ordinarily eat many nuts and seeds, but we found some raw organic

pistachios ... and we bought them!!! They are now eaten, so no nuts for me

today! :) (Though some might might suggest otherwise. :)

All items either organic or better (i.e., from a specific farm that I know

and trust). Of course, in California that's fairly easy to accomplish, I

realize this.

Does this help a bit?

Elchanan

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Carly Streiff

Monday, June 18, 2007 3:29 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] to Elchanan

Hello,

I have observed many of your comments and have appreciated them. Humor, as

of late as well.

I seriously would like to know what maybe a day of food is like for you?

What you might eat in a day or a week? I, this week, am getting the 80/10/10

book. However, I just was curious- thought it might help me out a bit.

Thanks!

Carly

June 19, 2007

Wow, thanks for that list. That seems like an incredible amount of food to me.

When I am

totally raw I loose my appetite and actually forget to eat until I get a

headache. Which is

probably why I get tired and cranky. Do you actually get hungry or do you just

try to

consciously eat several times a day? I tried eating most bananas and only ever

got up to

about 9 a day. I wasn't hungy but I felt really good. I am 5'8 " and weigh 162

pounds so I

have quite a bit of weight to loose. I'm sure that I'm not loosing because I

just don't

consume enough calories. Any suggestions?

Tammy

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Sure, Carly, I feel honored that you ask. Here's what I recall eating

> yesterday.

>

> One small watermelon.

> About 15 bananas.

> Some strawberries and blackberries.

> 1/4 lime

> A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides are

> sticky from their own sugar.

> A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

> One small handful of pistachios.

>

> I don't always eat avocado, but since I'm using yesterday as my example ....

>

> I don't ordinarily eat many nuts and seeds, but we found some raw organic

> pistachios ... and we bought them!!! They are now eaten, so no nuts for me

> today! :) (Though some might might suggest otherwise. :)

>

> All items either organic or better (i.e., from a specific farm that I know

> and trust). Of course, in California that's fairly easy to accomplish, I

> realize this.

>

> Does this help a bit?

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Carly Streiff

> Monday, June 18, 2007 3:29 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] to Elchanan

>

> Hello,

> I have observed many of your comments and have appreciated them. Humor, as

> of late as well.

>

> I seriously would like to know what maybe a day of food is like for you?

> What you might eat in a day or a week? I, this week, am getting the 80/10/10

> book. However, I just was curious- thought it might help me out a bit.

> Thanks!

> Carly

>

June 19, 2007

Oh wow, that IS a lot of food. Bet you have to go to the grocery

every day. I almost go every day myself, since eating primarily raw

foods.

How long have you been eating this way?

Belinda

-- In rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Sure, Carly, I feel honored that you ask. Here's what I recall

eating

> yesterday.

>

> One small watermelon.

> About 15 bananas.

> Some strawberries and blackberries.

> 1/4 lime

> A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides

are

> sticky from their own sugar.

> A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some

avocado.

> One small handful of pistachios.

>

> I don't always eat avocado, but since I'm using yesterday as my

example ....

>

> I don't ordinarily eat many nuts and seeds, but we found some raw

organic

> pistachios ... and we bought them!!! They are now eaten, so no nuts

for me

> today! :) (Though some might might suggest otherwise. :)

>

> All items either organic or better (i.e., from a specific farm that

I know

> and trust). Of course, in California that's fairly easy to

accomplish, I

> realize this.

>

> Does this help a bit?

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Carly Streiff

> Monday, June 18, 2007 3:29 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] to Elchanan

>

> Hello,

> I have observed many of your comments and have appreciated them.

Humor, as

> of late as well.

>

> I seriously would like to know what maybe a day of food is like for

you?

> What you might eat in a day or a week? I, this week, am getting the

80/10/10

> book. However, I just was curious- thought it might help me out a

bit.

> Thanks!

> Carly

>

June 19, 2007

Hi Valley,

You are welcome! I eat when I am hungry ... and sometimes socially even when

I am not so hungry.

to adopt this approach to RF ... high water-content, high in simple sugars

and soluble fiber, low in proteins, fats, and insoluble fiber ... the word

" transitioning " takes on a whole new meaning. Instead of the usual RF

meaning, which is basically figuring out how to recreate our cooked food

world out of raw foods, instead we focus on relearning to eat ... and we

must learn to eat larger quantities than are customary. Why? Because high

water-content, low-fat foods have far fewer calories per bite than do foods

higher in fat. So we must consume many more bites, and this is an adjustment

at first.

I've written extensively on this in the past. Some interesting posts may

include 16198, 18015, 18029, 18031, 18062, 18066, 18139, 29100. In

addition, if you go to the message archive and search on " transitioning " ,

" blood sugar " , and " satiation " , you'll find much more information about

relearning to eat, what to eat,etc. You may also choose to narrow your

search by naming me as author, it'll pick up all the threads ... if you

wish.

Also, if you wish, you can listen to our free audio program entitled " Eat To

Live! " , provided by the Path of Health Community. This program is available

for download at

http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs

<http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs & Events/GettingStarted/GettingStarted-3

of4~EatToLive!--Feb.28.2007CE--PathOfHealth.mp3>

& Events/GettingStarted/GettingStarted-3of4~EatToLive!--Feb.28.2007CE--PathOf

Health.mp3

Best,

Elchanan

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Valley

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:58 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

Wow, thanks for that list. That seems like an incredible amount of food to

me. When I am totally raw I loose my appetite and actually forget to eat

until I get a headache. Which is probably why I get tired and cranky. Do

you actually get hungry or do you just try to consciously eat several times

a day? I tried eating most bananas and only ever got up to about 9 a day.

I wasn't hungy but I felt really good. I am 5'8 " and weigh 162 pounds so I

have quite a bit of weight to loose. I'm sure that I'm not loosing because

I just don't consume enough calories. Any suggestions?

Tammy

June 19, 2007

Oh, just since yesterday. :)

Getting to a very stable program takes time. It cannot be forced, it can

only be learned. I have turned trips to the farmers markets into social

outings for myself, I thoroughly enjoy them. They have become part of my

recreation, I never experience this as a chore or an errand. I accomplish

this by talking to the farmers. I love taking people along ... one day we'll

have that program. :)

I go to the grocery less frequently than you might think, because I prefer

the FM. Most of what is sold in the grocery is not food, from my

perspective. Of course, toilet paper comes in handy at times ... but we're

working on it!

As for your question about how long ... for years, with a big interruption.

I'll share about that in an upcoming free teleconference sometime later this

year, not yet announced. I almost always begin these programs by sharing

some part of my personal experience that seems relevant to the topic.

Best,

Elchanan

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Belinda

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:10 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

Oh wow, that IS a lot of food. Bet you have to go to the grocery every day.

I almost go every day myself, since eating primarily raw foods.

How long have you been eating this way?

Belinda

June 20, 2007

ok, call me weird.......but..........except for perhaps the 15

bananas..........it doesn't sound like all that much food to me. LOL

I mean we are talking in an entire day.

small watermelon....mostly water, I can get through a small one pretty fast..(I

love putting salt on mine)..dh thinks that's weird. lol

I can inhale a bowl of cherries in no time...lol I mean they are mostly pits.

lol

strawberries and blackberries are small.

Lettuce, tomatoes & some avocado & small handful of pistachios ......This is a

salad with the lime.

I probabyly eat way more than that in a day. I mean a day is pretty long...lol

I guess that's my problem. lol

Jeannie

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

Valley <hank

rawfood

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 1:58:21 PM

Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

Wow, thanks for that list. That seems like an incredible amount of food to me.

When I am

totally raw I loose my appetite and actually forget to eat until I get a

headache. Which is

probably why I get tired and cranky. Do you actually get hungry or do you just

try to

consciously eat several times a day? I tried eating most bananas and only ever

got up to

about 9 a day. I wasn't hungy but I felt really good. I am 5'8 " and weigh 162

pounds so I

have quite a bit of weight to loose. I'm sure that I'm not loosing because I

just don't

consume enough calories. Any suggestions?

Tammy

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Sure, Carly, I feel honored that you ask. Here's what I recall eating

> yesterday.

>

> One small watermelon.

> About 15 bananas.

> Some strawberries and blackberries.

> 1/4 lime

> A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides are

> sticky from their own sugar.

> A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

> One small handful of pistachios.

>

> I don't always eat avocado, but since I'm using yesterday as my example ....

>

> I don't ordinarily eat many nuts and seeds, but we found some raw organic

> pistachios ... and we bought them!!! They are now eaten, so no nuts for me

> today! :) (Though some might might suggest otherwise. :)

>

> All items either organic or better (i.e., from a specific farm that I know

> and trust). Of course, in California that's fairly easy to accomplish, I

> realize this.

>

> Does this help a bit?

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Carly Streiff

> Monday, June 18, 2007 3:29 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] to Elchanan

>

> Hello,

> I have observed many of your comments and have appreciated them. Humor, as

> of late as well.

>

> I seriously would like to know what maybe a day of food is like for you?

> What you might eat in a day or a week? I, this week, am getting the 80/10/10

> book. However, I just was curious- thought it might help me out a bit.

> Thanks!

> Carly

>

June 20, 2007

Thanks for the resources, I'll check them out.

Tammy

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Hi Valley,

>

> You are welcome! I eat when I am hungry ... and sometimes socially even when

> I am not so hungry.

>

> to adopt this approach to RF ... high water-content, high in simple sugars

> and soluble fiber, low in proteins, fats, and insoluble fiber ... the word

> " transitioning " takes on a whole new meaning. Instead of the usual RF

> meaning, which is basically figuring out how to recreate our cooked food

> world out of raw foods, instead we focus on relearning to eat ... and we

> must learn to eat larger quantities than are customary. Why? Because high

> water-content, low-fat foods have far fewer calories per bite than do foods

> higher in fat. So we must consume many more bites, and this is an adjustment

> at first.

>

> I've written extensively on this in the past. Some interesting posts may

> include 16198, 18015, 18029, 18031, 18062, 18066, 18139, 29100. In

> addition, if you go to the message archive and search on " transitioning " ,

> " blood sugar " , and " satiation " , you'll find much more information about

> relearning to eat, what to eat,etc. You may also choose to narrow your

> search by naming me as author, it'll pick up all the threads ... if you

> wish.

>

> Also, if you wish, you can listen to our free audio program entitled " Eat To

> Live! " , provided by the Path of Health Community. This program is available

> for download at

>

> http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs

> <http://www.pathofhealth.org/Programs & Events/GettingStarted/GettingStarted-3

> of4~EatToLive!--Feb.28.2007CE--PathOfHealth.mp3>

> & Events/GettingStarted/GettingStarted-3of4~EatToLive!--Feb.28.2007CE--PathOf

> Health.mp3

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Valley

> Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:58 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

>

> Wow, thanks for that list. That seems like an incredible amount of food to

> me. When I am totally raw I loose my appetite and actually forget to eat

> until I get a headache. Which is probably why I get tired and cranky. Do

> you actually get hungry or do you just try to consciously eat several times

> a day? I tried eating most bananas and only ever got up to about 9 a day.

> I wasn't hungy but I felt really good. I am 5'8 " and weigh 162 pounds so I

> have quite a bit of weight to loose. I'm sure that I'm not loosing because

> I just don't consume enough calories. Any suggestions?

>

> Tammy

>

June 20, 2007

-

Elchanan

>One small watermelon.

About 15 bananas.

Some strawberries and blackberries.

1/4 lime

A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides are

sticky from their own sugar.

A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

One small handful of pistachios.

Exactly what I've been looking for, thanks!

I'm currently debating whether to try the tomatoes - My mother was told by

my doctor when I was a toddler not to feed me tomatoes, because I had

chronic acidic urine and other problems, as well as joint pain, and he felt

that the acid in the tomatoes could be the cause. I have found that if I

have several dishes with tomatoes in them (cooked or raw) over a few days to

a week, I will have more joint pain, but I can eat sundried tomatoes without

a problem, not that I often get them. I have had allergy testing done, and

haven't really done a proper trial with tomatoes, that's just what I've

noticed over the years. Any suggestions?

Caron

June 20, 2007

this sounds like my average day...i guess thats good...

Caron,

regarding tomatoes..theyr from the nightshade family..as are

peppers.....nightshade is a poison..tomatoes and peppers have

chemicals on the surface as a natural defense and some people

actually react to these chemicals with arthritis...so your

symptoms are not unusual...you may want to reconsider the

tomatoes....

fruit from the nightshade family is contraindicated for people

with rheumatoid arthritis for this reason...

peace

anna

On 6/19/07, Caron <carongroups wrote:

>

> -

> Elchanan

> >One small watermelon.

> About 15 bananas.

> Some strawberries and blackberries.

> 1/4 lime

> A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides are

> sticky from their own sugar.

> A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

> One small handful of pistachios.

>

> Exactly what I've been looking for, thanks!

>

> I'm currently debating whether to try the tomatoes - My mother was told by

> my doctor when I was a toddler not to feed me tomatoes, because I had

> chronic acidic urine and other problems, as well as joint pain, and he

> felt

> that the acid in the tomatoes could be the cause. I have found that if I

> have several dishes with tomatoes in them (cooked or raw) over a few days

> to

> a week, I will have more joint pain, but I can eat sundried tomatoes

> without

> a problem, not that I often get them. I have had allergy testing done, and

> haven't really done a proper trial with tomatoes, that's just what I've

> noticed over the years. Any suggestions?

>

> Caron

>

June 20, 2007

-

Anna Bishop

>fruit from the nightshade family is contraindicated for people

with rheumatoid arthritis for this reason...

Thanks, Anna, that was one of my diagnoses from infanthood, though tests

since have been negative. I've lived without tomatoes this long, it's not

that difficult )

Caron

June 20, 2007

i was falsely diagnosed a couple of years ago too...

then i gave up grain,,,it disappeared miraculously...

a

On 6/19/07, Caron <carongroups wrote:

>

> -

> Anna Bishop

> >fruit from the nightshade family is contraindicated for people

> with rheumatoid arthritis for this reason...

>

> Thanks, Anna, that was one of my diagnoses from infanthood, though tests

> since have been negative. I've lived without tomatoes this long, it's not

> that difficult )

>

> Caron

>

June 20, 2007

Yes, I agree, this seems fairly routine to me.

Elchanan

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:14 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

ok, call me weird.......but..........except for perhaps the 15

bananas..........it doesn't sound like all that much food to me. LOL

I mean we are talking in an entire day.

small watermelon....mostly water, I can get through a small one pretty

fast..(I love putting salt on mine)..dh thinks that's weird. lol

I can inhale a bowl of cherries in no time...lol I mean they are mostly

pits. lol

strawberries and blackberries are small.

Lettuce, tomatoes & some avocado & small handful of pistachios ......This is

a salad with the lime.

I probabyly eat way more than that in a day. I mean a day is pretty

long...lol

I guess that's my problem. lol

Jeannie

June 20, 2007

You're welcome.

This whole idea of transitioning represents quite a paradigm shift for many

people.

Elchanan

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Valley

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:26 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

Thanks for the resources, I'll check them out.

Tammy

June 20, 2007

Yes, grains do indeed cause severe symptoms, over time. As far as I know,

the whole nightshade thing, while popular, isn't worth any attention at all.

Tomatoes are a great food for humans (though wild-grown tomatoes are best,

and almost universally unavailable).

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:14 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

i was falsely diagnosed a couple of years ago too...

then i gave up grain,,,it disappeared miraculously...

a

On 6/19/07, Caron <carongroups@ <carongroups%40bearberi.com.au>

bearberi.com.au> wrote:

>

> -

> Anna Bishop

> >fruit from the nightshade family is contraindicated for people

> with rheumatoid arthritis for this reason...

>

> Thanks, Anna, that was one of my diagnoses from infanthood, though tests

> since have been negative. I've lived without tomatoes this long, it's not

> that difficult )

>

> Caron

>

June 20, 2007

-

Elchanan

>Yes, grains do indeed cause severe symptoms, over time. As far as I know,

the whole nightshade thing, while popular, isn't worth any attention at all.

Tomatoes are a great food for humans (though wild-grown tomatoes are best,

and almost universally unavailable).

>Anna Bishop

Sent:>i was falsely diagnosed a couple of years ago too...

then i gave up grain,,,it disappeared miraculously...

I ate bread back then, and generally had pasta of some sort with the tomato

dishes, but ate some wheat or other grain pretty much every day, so it

doesn't seem that the symptoms flared up as a result of that. I haven't

eaten any grains for...over a month, and before that only occasionally,

because the boy's allergic to wheat, and I get sick if I have oats, and I

gave up rice a few months back after being crook for a while and not able to

eat much of anything. I just have general pains these days, but my joints

occasionally ache, and crack and pop all the time. I'm just cold at the

moment, so hard to tell, hehe.

Caron

June 20, 2007

Holy Bananas!!!

I have to say that I am not a fan of bananas and I have a hard time eating

them. Something about the texture just doesn't work for me. I do like to

add them to my smoothies though.

My questions is: it seems that the people on this board eat a lot of

bananas on a daily basis. Now, I am new to this board and new to the raw as

a lifestyle concept, so is there a health benefit to eating that many or is

it just a preference?

Any input or info you have would be great.

Thanks

Caroline

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Sure, Carly, I feel honored that you ask. Here's what I recall eating

> yesterday.

>

> One small watermelon.

> About 15 bananas.

> Some strawberries and blackberries.

> 1/4 lime

> A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides are

> sticky from their own sugar.

> A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

> One small handful of pistachios.

>

> I don't always eat avocado, but since I'm using yesterday as my example

.....

>

> I don't ordinarily eat many nuts and seeds, but we found some raw organic

> pistachios ... and we bought them!!! They are now eaten, so no nuts for me

> today! :) (Though some might might suggest otherwise. :)

>

> All items either organic or better (i.e., from a specific farm that I know

> and trust). Of course, in California that's fairly easy to accomplish, I

> realize this.

>

> Does this help a bit?

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf

Of

> Carly Streiff

> Monday, June 18, 2007 3:29 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] to Elchanan

>

> Hello,

> I have observed many of your comments and have appreciated them. Humor, as

> of late as well.

>

> I seriously would like to know what maybe a day of food is like for you?

> What you might eat in a day or a week? I, this week, am getting the

80/10/10

> book. However, I just was curious- thought it might help me out a bit.

> Thanks!

> Carly

>

June 20, 2007

I was going to say.....being raw is hard enough in the begining....to have to

restrict the raw foods one eats would make it that much harder. I eat alot of

tomatoes. I love tomatoes...and what about the Lycopene? Isn't that good for

your heart?

Jeannie

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:26:28 AM

RE: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

Yes, grains do indeed cause severe symptoms, over time. As far as I know,

the whole nightshade thing, while popular, isn't worth any attention at all.

Tomatoes are a great food for humans (though wild-grown tomatoes are best,

and almost universally unavailable).

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:14 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

i was falsely diagnosed a couple of years ago too...

then i gave up grain,,,it disappeared miraculously...

a

On 6/19/07, Caron <carongroups@ <carongroups%40bearberi.com.au>

bearberi.com.au> wrote:

>

> -

> Anna Bishop

> >fruit from the nightshade family is contraindicated for people

> with rheumatoid arthritis for this reason...

>

> Thanks, Anna, that was one of my diagnoses from infanthood, though tests

> since have been negative. I've lived without tomatoes this long, it's not

> that difficult )

>

> Caron

>

June 20, 2007

I love tomatoes!!! I eat one everyday!! And here I thought I was doing a

good thing.

Thanks for the info

Caroline

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anna Bishop

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:51 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

this sounds like my average day...i guess thats good...

Caron,

regarding tomatoes..theyr from the nightshade family..as are

peppers.....nightshade is a poison..tomatoes and peppers have chemicals on

the surface as a natural defense and some people actually react to these

chemicals with arthritis...so your symptoms are not unusual...you may want

to reconsider the tomatoes....

fruit from the nightshade family is contraindicated for people with

rheumatoid arthritis for this reason...

peace

anna

On 6/19/07, Caron <carongroups wrote:

>

> -

> Elchanan

> >One small watermelon.

> About 15 bananas.

> Some strawberries and blackberries.

> 1/4 lime

> A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides

> are sticky from their own sugar.

> A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

> One small handful of pistachios.

>

> Exactly what I've been looking for, thanks!

>

> I'm currently debating whether to try the tomatoes - My mother was

> told by my doctor when I was a toddler not to feed me tomatoes,

> because I had chronic acidic urine and other problems, as well as

> joint pain, and he felt that the acid in the tomatoes could be the

> cause. I have found that if I have several dishes with tomatoes in

> them (cooked or raw) over a few days to a week, I will have more joint

> pain, but I can eat sundried tomatoes without a problem, not that I

> often get them. I have had allergy testing done, and haven't really

> done a proper trial with tomatoes, that's just what I've noticed over

> the years. Any suggestions?

>

> Caron

>

June 20, 2007

i always wondered about the quantity of the " allergen " ...

if youre chock full of grain it wouldnt take much to get more symptomatic..

but if youre raw...you probably wouldnt even notice it would you?

anna

On 6/20/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> Yes, grains do indeed cause severe symptoms, over time. As far as I know,

> the whole nightshade thing, while popular, isn't worth any attention at all.

> Tomatoes are a great food for humans (though wild-grown tomatoes are best,

> and almost universally unavailable).

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:14 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

>

> i was falsely diagnosed a couple of years ago too...

>

> then i gave up grain,,,it disappeared miraculously...

>

> a

>

> On 6/19/07, Caron <carongroups@ <carongroups%40bearberi.com.au>

> bearberi.com.au> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Anna Bishop

> > >fruit from the nightshade family is contraindicated for people

> > with rheumatoid arthritis for this reason...

> >

> > Thanks, Anna, that was one of my diagnoses from infanthood, though tests

> > since have been negative. I've lived without tomatoes this long, it's not

> > that difficult )

> >

> > Caron

> >

>

June 20, 2007

preference for me...

anna

On 6/20/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote:

> Holy Bananas!!!

>

> I have to say that I am not a fan of bananas and I have a hard time eating

> them. Something about the texture just doesn't work for me. I do like to

> add them to my smoothies though.

>

> My questions is: it seems that the people on this board eat a lot of

> bananas on a daily basis. Now, I am new to this board and new to the raw as

> a lifestyle concept, so is there a health benefit to eating that many or is

> it just a preference?

>

> Any input or info you have would be great.

>

> Thanks

>

> Caroline

>

> rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

> >

> > Sure, Carly, I feel honored that you ask. Here's what I recall eating

> > yesterday.

> >

> > One small watermelon.

> > About 15 bananas.

> > Some strawberries and blackberries.

> > 1/4 lime

> > A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides are

> > sticky from their own sugar.

> > A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

> > One small handful of pistachios.

> >

> > I don't always eat avocado, but since I'm using yesterday as my example

> ....

> >

> > I don't ordinarily eat many nuts and seeds, but we found some raw organic

> > pistachios ... and we bought them!!! They are now eaten, so no nuts for me

> > today! :) (Though some might might suggest otherwise. :)

> >

> > All items either organic or better (i.e., from a specific farm that I know

> > and trust). Of course, in California that's fairly easy to accomplish, I

> > realize this.

> >

> > Does this help a bit?

> > Elchanan

> > _____

> >

> > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf

> Of

> > Carly Streiff

> > Monday, June 18, 2007 3:29 PM

> > rawfood

> > [Raw Food] to Elchanan

> >

> > Hello,

> > I have observed many of your comments and have appreciated them. Humor, as

> > of late as well.

> >

> > I seriously would like to know what maybe a day of food is like for you?

> > What you might eat in a day or a week? I, this week, am getting the

> 80/10/10

> > book. However, I just was curious- thought it might help me out a bit.

> > Thanks!

> > Carly

> >

June 20, 2007

oh it may be!

but some people react to those substances with arthritic symptoms is all..

if you dont, dont sweat it...tomatoes are a very healthy food otherwise..

anna

On 6/20/07, Caroline G Gomes <cggomes wrote:

> I love tomatoes!!! I eat one everyday!! And here I thought I was doing a

> good thing.

>

> Thanks for the info

>

> Caroline

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Anna Bishop

> Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:51 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] to Elchanan

>

> this sounds like my average day...i guess thats good...

>

> Caron,

>

> regarding tomatoes..theyr from the nightshade family..as are

> peppers.....nightshade is a poison..tomatoes and peppers have chemicals on

> the surface as a natural defense and some people actually react to these

> chemicals with arthritis...so your symptoms are not unusual...you may want

> to reconsider the tomatoes....

>

> fruit from the nightshade family is contraindicated for people with

> rheumatoid arthritis for this reason...

>

> peace

> anna

>

> On 6/19/07, Caron <carongroups wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Elchanan

> > >One small watermelon.

> > About 15 bananas.

> > Some strawberries and blackberries.

> > 1/4 lime

> > A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides

> > are sticky from their own sugar.

> > A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

> > One small handful of pistachios.

> >

> > Exactly what I've been looking for, thanks!

> >

> > I'm currently debating whether to try the tomatoes - My mother was

> > told by my doctor when I was a toddler not to feed me tomatoes,

> > because I had chronic acidic urine and other problems, as well as

> > joint pain, and he felt that the acid in the tomatoes could be the

> > cause. I have found that if I have several dishes with tomatoes in

> > them (cooked or raw) over a few days to a week, I will have more joint

> > pain, but I can eat sundried tomatoes without a problem, not that I

> > often get them. I have had allergy testing done, and haven't really

> > done a proper trial with tomatoes, that's just what I've noticed over

> > the years. Any suggestions?

> >

> > Caron

> >

June 20, 2007

Yes Caron, I understand. We must remind ourselves at times that the symptoms

ARE the healing process. When we create a state of relative rest...as by

removing the grains... then we are likely to see symptoms for awhile as the

body cleans up what we created in the past.

If you have ANY salt in your diet, eliminate it. And I suggest cutting out

the nuts/seeds for a bit at least ... just give your system some simplicity

for a bit.

Are you familiar with the conversations about monoeating that we shared here

a few weeks back? This might be an excellent direction for you for a bit, or

as close as you would comfortably choose.

Best,

Elchanan

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Caron

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 2:57 AM