Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 no one said it was.... On 6/21/07, Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > AH HA!!! You just said the main point I have been trying to make!!! It is > not easy > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote: i had been overweight all > my life until now. > > i have been married to a drinking alcoholic for 7yrs. > > I CHOSE to go raw and take the weight off. And i did. > I CHOSE to divorce my husband...and i did. > > no one is saying this is easy. > > we are our choices. > > its that simple. > > anna > > On 6/21/07, Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > > I vote for number one and two. I am not clinically obese. > > > > for me, if I feel something is right or wrong has nothing to do with my > > size. Perhaps those who have never suffered a weight problem are too harsh > > because they don't get it. Just like someone who is not an alcoholic can't > > relate to the addiction of alcohol. > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote: > > 1) how many people think the caretakers are to blame for mr > > 1000lbs' weight? > > > > 2) how many people think its mr 1000lbs' fault? > > > > how many people that vote for #1 are clinically obese? > > > > how many people that vote for #2 are clinically obese? > > > > id be willing to bet there is a correllation. > > id bet those that blame the caretakers are heavier than those that > > blame the man himself. Thats my hypotheses. > > this is a serious poll...i genuinely want to know. I am not wanting > > to embarass anyone or single anyone out...i want the cold hard > > numbers. > > > > we can do it anonymously if we want....pick one person to count the > > votes..like elchanan...have everyone send their choices and whether > > they are clinically obese (30% or more above their ideal body weight). > > > > anyone want to? I think it would be very telling. > > > > if i were in a nutrition class i would do this same exact poll. > > > > oh...and this includes the lurkers too! > > get out the vote! > > > > thx > > anna > > > > -- > > Anna > > > > " A fool can not understand wisdom even if he associates with a sage. " - > > Buddha > > > > " Do not throw pearls to swine, lest they trample over them and attack > > you. " - Jesus > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry Lynn Bakhtiari > > May God bless you > > Today and always. > > www.terrywithpcos.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > > news, photos & more. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 i would have years ago..but not now...i would STOP at just enough to stop the hunger..a few bites..but not enough to gain... my mouth has that choice. anna On 6/21/07, Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > if I were hungry and all they brought me was crap and that is what I was > used to anyway I would probably eat it too. > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote: because the staff wasnt > chewing and swallowing. > > show me how they forced him to chew and swallow and ill agree with you. > > anna > > On 6/21/07, Terry Bakhtiari <pablobully wrote: > > forgiver me Anna but I do think you are a little jaded maybe. I don't mean > > that harshly. I completely understand taking personal responsibility. My > > question is, why is it the staff and or family is not to blame at all? I > > don't think it has to do with empathy, on my part. I just think it is > wrong > > that if someone is on a destructive path to assist them. > > > > Anna Bishop <mowthpeece wrote: i agree. We choose our > > lives. > > > > i can not blame the staff one bit..now thats just me....you dont have > > to agree...it could be that im jaded from 28yrs of exposure to law. > > > > but if you disagree be sure its for logical reasons...not supposition > > or emotion or empathy....because going soft on this issue..blaming the > > staff, could very well be the lynch pin to what keeps you (figurative) > > heavy. > > > > youre not seeing yourself EMPOWERED enough to CHOOSE your destiny. > > > > and we aaaaaallllll have that power, if you want it bad enough. > > > > peace > > anna > > > > On 6/20/07, Belinda <MistyBlueTN wrote: > > > #3 It is both of their fault past the time he became bed ridden. > > > > > > Nope. Not obese and never have been. I weighed 100lbs when I got > > > married 27 years ago. I now weigh 115 and am 5 ft 5 inches tall. > > > Always have been a scrawney butt and have never blamed anyone for any > > > of my problems, other than myself. > > > I am of the belief that most of everyones problems have been brought > > > on by themselves, and they continue to deal with those problems > > > because they continue to live in such a way that allowes the problems > > > to persist. > > > > > > If someone wants to change their life they have to change their life. > > > As in do something different. > > > You can't get a red velvet cake if you keep using the ingredients for > > > a chocolate one. > > > > > > And that is my philosophy. Right or wrong. > > > > > > Belinda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rawfood , " Anna Bishop " <mowthpeece wrote: > > > > > > > > 1) how many people think the caretakers are to blame for mr > > > 1000lbs' weight? > > > > > > > > 2) how many people think its mr 1000lbs' fault? > > > > > > > > how many people that vote for #1 are clinically obese? > > > > > > > > how many people that vote for #2 are clinically obese? > > > > > > > > id be willing to bet there is a correllation. > > > > id bet those that blame the caretakers are heavier than those that > > > > blame the man himself. Thats my hypotheses. > > > > this is a serious poll...i genuinely want to know. I am not wanting > > > > to embarass anyone or single anyone out...i want the cold hard > > > > numbers. > > > > > > > > we can do it anonymously if we want....pick one person to count the > > > > votes..like elchanan...have everyone send their choices and whether > > > > they are clinically obese (30% or more above their ideal body > > > weight). > > > > > > > > anyone want to? I think it would be very telling. > > > > > > > > if i were in a nutrition class i would do this same exact poll. > > > > > > > > oh...and this includes the lurkers too! > > > > get out the vote! > > > > > > > > thx > > > > anna > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > " A fool can not understand wisdom even if he associates with a > > > sage. " - Buddha > > > > > > > > " Do not throw pearls to swine, lest they trample over them and > > > attack > > > > you. " - Jesus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Which went first, Anna, the ex-husband or the ex-CExYS? Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:28 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] lets do a poll i had been overweight all my life until now. i have been married to a drinking alcoholic for 7yrs. I CHOSE to go raw and take the weight off. And i did. I CHOSE to divorce my husband...and i did. no one is saying this is easy. we are our choices. its that simple. anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 the husband went first... then the extra weight.... its just me now..large and in charge. in the end, we all die alone (just a saying...).. its ourselves we have to count on. We should never settle for letting ourselves down. ever. when you get a handle on yourself first, everything is is just cake...8=)) anna On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: > Which went first, Anna, the ex-husband or the ex-CExYS? > Elchanan > > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Anna Bishop > Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:28 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] lets do a poll > > > i had been overweight all my life until now. > > i have been married to a drinking alcoholic for 7yrs. > > I CHOSE to go raw and take the weight off. And i did. > I CHOSE to divorce my husband...and i did. > > no one is saying this is easy. > > we are our choices. > > its that simple. > > anna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hi Anna, this is as I suspected. I invite you to consider that you could not have done these things in the reverse order ... you quite literally could not have released the weight before the husband. In other words, you didn't possess quite as much choice in the matter as you may think. More coming in a much longer post, probably not today. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:25 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] lets do a poll the husband went first... then the extra weight.... its just me now..large and in charge. in the end, we all die alone (just a saying...).. its ourselves we have to count on. We should never settle for letting ourselves down. ever. when you get a handle on yourself first, everything is is just cake...8=)) anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 actually i did buttercup.. i dropped 15lbs last year too during summer too eating raw...i think ive mentioned it.. i let myself gain it back out of sheer laziness...it takes work, preplanning etc to stay raw.. its just much easier when im living alone...i control what comes in the house... but i did it EVEN WITH the temptations around me. im not saying it was easy....i just had to decide to do it. Just as i decided not to do it. do you really doubt that we choose our lifestyles? I find that fascinating..are you into predistination? or you just think the subcon is stronger than the concious mind..? xo anna On 6/21/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: > Hi Anna, this is as I suspected. I invite you to consider that you could not > have done these things in the reverse order ... you quite literally could > not have released the weight before the husband. In other words, you didn't > possess quite as much choice in the matter as you may think. > > More coming in a much longer post, probably not today. > > Best, > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Anna Bishop > Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:25 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] lets do a poll > > > the husband went first... > > then the extra weight.... > > its just me now..large and in charge. > > in the end, we all die alone (just a saying...).. > > its ourselves we have to count on. We should never settle for letting > ourselves down. > > ever. > > when you get a handle on yourself first, everything is is just cake...8=)) > > anna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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