FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring sense of taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

[Guest guest]

Jeannie,

 

From Janet FitzGerald, one of our Mentors-in-Training in the Path of Health

Community.

Elchanan

_____

 

PathOfHealth [PathOfHealth ] On

Behalf Of Janet FitzGerald

Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:33 AM

PathOfHealth

[PathOfHealth] Re: XPOST: [Raw Food] A matter of taste [Restoring

sense of taste and sense of

 

 

Hi Jeannie,

 

Salt is one of the biggest addictions we have in our society. For instance,

if a person loves corn chips and tries to eat the unsalted kind, they soon

find out it isn't the corn chips they love!

 

About 30 years ago, after my father had his first heart attacks, the doctors

restricted salt from his diet. Our family also restricted salt.

Admittedly, we didn't check the sodium in our processed food consumption.

The food tasted bland for awhile and then magically, or so it seemed, I

began to actually TASTE the food. Your taste buds and self awareness will

begin to awaken. A whole new world of flavor awaits you.

 

Janet - who has dramatically reduced her salted corn chip addiction! I've

had a bag in the pantry sitting unopened for four days, now. Don't even want

it! What's REALLY amazing is the DH and DD haven't opened it,

either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looking forward to watermelon for lunch.

____________

PathOfHealth , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

 

Jeannie, Why do you feel such an urgent need to " enhance " the taste of

something you've never actually tasted?

 

If you stop all the " enhancers " , your system will restore both your taste

buds and your sense of smell, and you will perceive everything differently.

Really! It does take a bit of time ... but not all that much, considering

the number of years we've all been pummeling our taste buds with stimulants

( " enhancers " ).

 

Our primary taste is for sweet, by design. Look at what you're writing

about ... there seems to be no focus on tasting sweet things at all.

That's how " off " your sensory awareness is.

 

So much for all those people who " listen to their bodies " .

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am still not using salt and still am not used to it. (second day) I ate my

salad with raw apple cider vinegar and it was soooo " vinegary " . I didn't have

the salt to temper the acid taste of the vinegar. I ate it anyway because I was

hungry. lol

I am going to keep trying this experiment. I hope I can get past this " not

liking the taste of my food " time.

 

 

So, are you saying that you eat vegetables with ABSOLUTELY NO salt and/or spices

at all???? I mean,even the raw foods that are in the raw cookbooks have salt

and/or spices. Ok...ok..I am dragging my feet, but I am doing it.

 

I had an avocado in salad and it really tastes bland with out salt....Ok,

ok...I'm whining...but I'm doing it.

 

You know not all vegetables are at their peek of flavor. Do you EVER feel the

need to enhance flavors?

 

 

 

Sadly,

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:50:14 AM

[Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring sense of

taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

Jeannie,

 

From Janet FitzGerald, one of our Mentors-in-Training in the Path of Health

Community.

Elchanan

_____

 

PathOfHealth [PathOfHealth ] On

Behalf Of Janet FitzGerald

Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:33 AM

PathOfHealth

[PathOfHealth] Re: XPOST: [Raw Food] A matter of taste [Restoring

sense of taste and sense of

 

 

Hi Jeannie,

 

Salt is one of the biggest addictions we have in our society. For instance,

if a person loves corn chips and tries to eat the unsalted kind, they soon

find out it isn't the corn chips they love!

 

About 30 years ago, after my father had his first heart attacks, the doctors

restricted salt from his diet. Our family also restricted salt.

Admittedly, we didn't check the sodium in our processed food consumption.

The food tasted bland for awhile and then magically, or so it seemed, I

began to actually TASTE the food. Your taste buds and self awareness will

begin to awaken. A whole new world of flavor awaits you.

 

Janet - who has dramatically reduced her salted corn chip addiction! I've

had a bag in the pantry sitting unopened for four days, now. Don't even want

it! What's REALLY amazing is the DH and DD haven't opened it,

either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looking forward to watermelon for lunch.

____________

PathOfHealth , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

 

Jeannie, Why do you feel such an urgent need to " enhance " the taste of

something you've never actually tasted?

 

If you stop all the " enhancers " , your system will restore both your taste

buds and your sense of smell, and you will perceive everything differently.

Really! It does take a bit of time ... but not all that much, considering

the number of years we've all been pummeling our taste buds with stimulants

( " enhancers " ).

 

Our primary taste is for sweet, by design. Look at what you're writing

about ... there seems to be no focus on tasting sweet things at all.

That's how " off " your sensory awareness is.

 

So much for all those people who " listen to their bodies " .

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-

jeannieh h

>I am still not using salt and still am not used to it. (second day) I ate

>my salad with raw apple cider vinegar and it was soooo " vinegary " . I didn't

>have the salt to temper the acid taste of the vinegar. I ate it anyway

>because I was hungry. lol

I am going to keep trying this experiment. I hope I can get past this " not

liking the taste of my food " time.

 

Jeannie, you're doing really well, trying this again despite not liking it

the first time ) Have you tried having your salad without the lemon or

vinegar? Taste the salad on its own. It won't taste strong, or spicy or

lemony or vinegary, it'll taste like salad.

 

Just a side note, I like the taste of lemon, and apple cider vinegar, but

not straight - I diliute them before drinking, in at least half a litre of

water per little bit (vinegar probably a tea spoon; or the juice of a whole

lemon), and they taste quite nice, if not sweet or salty. I even like the

taste of fresh water (filtered or rain water), and most people, who use a

lot of condiments, and drink only sweet foods, think water tastes horrible

at best.

 

>Do you EVER feel the need to enhance flavors?

 

occasionally I might crave a curry or soup with a bit of spice in it, but I

prefer without. If you get organically grown, naturally ripened fruits and

veges, they taste soooooo much better than those soaked in pesticides and

gas ripened (sometimes I wonder if they paint them the right colour before

sending them to the store!) stuff they have in the supermarkets.

 

Caron

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeannie,

 

First, you need not do everything at once. At the same time, realize that

all these flavor enhancers are intended to do one thing: mask the real

flavor of the foods.

 

Give your system time to heal your taste buds and sense of smell. Then

things will all seem quite a bit different. I used to eat lots of salt,

spices, of every conceivable type. Now, I imagine most of them would taste

horrific to me (though I have no intention of finding this out ... I've

experimented a couple of times, that was enough for me!

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:35 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring

sense of taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

I am still not using salt and still am not used to it. (second day) I ate my

salad with raw apple cider vinegar and it was soooo " vinegary " . I didn't

have the salt to temper the acid taste of the vinegar. I ate it anyway

because I was hungry. lol

I am going to keep trying this experiment. I hope I can get past this " not

liking the taste of my food " time.

 

So, are you saying that you eat vegetables with ABSOLUTELY NO salt and/or

spices at all???? I mean,even the raw foods that are in the raw cookbooks

have salt and/or spices. Ok...ok..I am dragging my feet, but I am doing it.

 

I had an avocado in salad and it really tastes bland with out salt....Ok,

ok...I'm whining...but I'm doing it.

 

You know not all vegetables are at their peek of flavor. Do you EVER feel

the need to enhance flavors?

 

Sadly,

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Jeannie and Caron,

This comment (below) reminds me of a great suggestion that I forgot to

mention earlier. Take some fruit that you enjoy, cut it up into small

pieces, and sprinkle that into your salad ... instead of any vinegar or

lemon juice. At this point, I cannot even remember when I last used lemon

juice on anything. Transitioning takes some time ... your body needs time to

heal your taste buds ... then they'll function entirely differently.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Caron

Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:04 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring

sense of taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

I am going to keep trying this experiment. I hope I can get past this " not

liking the taste of my food " time.

 

Jeannie, you're doing really well, trying this again despite not liking it

the first time ) Have you tried having your salad without the lemon or

vinegar? Taste the salad on its own. It won't taste strong, or spicy or

lemony or vinegary, it'll taste like salad.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Caron,

 

Thanks...I am really trying...

I am going to continue this..........even though my mouth and my brain are not

enjoying the taste at the moment. I will just tell myself how much I am

enjoying it. I will tell myself that it is not bland...It is good. yum!

 

I can't wait for it to really happen that I enjoy the taste of dry vegetables.

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Caron <carongroups

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:04:09 PM

Re: [Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring sense of

taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

-

jeannieh h

>I am still not using salt and still am not used to it. (second day) I ate

>my salad with raw apple cider vinegar and it was soooo " vinegary " . I didn't

>have the salt to temper the acid taste of the vinegar. I ate it anyway

>because I was hungry. lol

I am going to keep trying this experiment. I hope I can get past this " not

liking the taste of my food " time.

 

Jeannie, you're doing really well, trying this again despite not liking it

the first time ) Have you tried having your salad without the lemon or

vinegar? Taste the salad on its own. It won't taste strong, or spicy or

lemony or vinegary, it'll taste like salad.

 

Just a side note, I like the taste of lemon, and apple cider vinegar, but

not straight - I diliute them before drinking, in at least half a litre of

water per little bit (vinegar probably a tea spoon; or the juice of a whole

lemon), and they taste quite nice, if not sweet or salty. I even like the

taste of fresh water (filtered or rain water), and most people, who use a

lot of condiments, and drink only sweet foods, think water tastes horrible

at best.

 

>Do you EVER feel the need to enhance flavors?

 

occasionally I might crave a curry or soup with a bit of spice in it, but I

prefer without. If you get organically grown, naturally ripened fruits and

veges, they taste soooooo much better than those soaked in pesticides and

gas ripened (sometimes I wonder if they paint them the right colour before

sending them to the store!) stuff they have in the supermarkets.

 

Caron

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I seem to be the only salt fiend in this group...darn it!! I can't get anyone

on my side.......... :-(

 

I will try your herb idea...I do love cilantro,and basil. not a fan of dill...

Thanks for the suggestion,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Caroline G Gomes <cggomes

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:04:22 PM

RE: [Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring sense of

taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

I put tomatoes and fresh herbs (cilantro, dill, basil) in the food

processor and use that as my dressing for my salads and veggies. I'll add

avocado to make it a little thicker and more like a dip for carrots or

broccoli.

 

Try different things and see what you like. I was never really a fan of

salt so this part is not an obstacle for me.

 

Caroline

 

 

 

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:35 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring

sense of taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

I am still not using salt and still am not used to it. (second day) I ate my

salad with raw apple cider vinegar and it was soooo " vinegary " . I didn't

have the salt to temper the acid taste of the vinegar. I ate it anyway

because I was hungry. lol I am going to keep trying this experiment. I hope

I can get past this " not liking the taste of my food " time.

 

 

So, are you saying that you eat vegetables with ABSOLUTELY NO salt and/or

spices at all???? I mean,even the raw foods that are in the raw cookbooks

have salt and/or spices. Ok...ok..I am dragging my feet, but I am doing

it.

 

I had an avocado in salad and it really tastes bland with out salt....Ok,

ok...I'm whining...but I'm doing it.

 

You know not all vegetables are at their peek of flavor. Do you EVER feel

the need to enhance flavors?

 

 

 

Sadly,

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:50:14 AM

[Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring sense of

taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

Jeannie,

 

From Janet FitzGerald, one of our Mentors-in-Training in the Path of Health

Community.

Elchanan

_____

 

PathOfHealth [PathOfHealth ] On

Behalf Of Janet FitzGerald

Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:33 AM

PathOfHealth

[PathOfHealth] Re: XPOST: [Raw Food] A matter of taste [Restoring

sense of taste and sense of

 

 

Hi Jeannie,

 

Salt is one of the biggest addictions we have in our society. For instance,

if a person loves corn chips and tries to eat the unsalted kind, they soon

find out it isn't the corn chips they love!

 

About 30 years ago, after my father had his first heart attacks, the doctors

restricted salt from his diet. Our family also restricted salt.

Admittedly, we didn't check the sodium in our processed food consumption.

The food tasted bland for awhile and then magically, or so it seemed, I

began to actually TASTE the food. Your taste buds and self awareness will

begin to awaken. A whole new world of flavor awaits you.

 

Janet - who has dramatically reduced her salted corn chip addiction! I've

had a bag in the pantry sitting unopened for four days, now. Don't even want

it! What's REALLY amazing is the DH and DD haven't opened it,

either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looking forward to watermelon for lunch.

____________

PathOfHealth , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

 

Jeannie, Why do you feel such an urgent need to " enhance " the taste of

something you've never actually tasted?

 

If you stop all the " enhancers " , your system will restore both your taste

buds and your sense of smell, and you will perceive everything differently.

Really! It does take a bit of time ... but not all that much, considering

the number of years we've all been pummeling our taste buds with stimulants

( " enhancers " ).

 

Our primary taste is for sweet, by design. Look at what you're writing

about ... there seems to be no focus on tasting sweet things at all.

That's how " off " your sensory awareness is.

 

So much for all those people who " listen to their bodies " .

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

 

You continue to give me hope....thanks.

 

It is difficult. I mean from childhood we are given sad foods that are, of

course, seasoned. Seasonings are in every type of foods all over the world.

Even vegans, vegetarians....every ethnic foods, you name it...

 

I have never heard Nutritionists tell anyone not to use salt of spices..only to

limit use of salt for the sodium factor.

 

Anywho......I am going to continue to try to do this for the 60 days and hope it

catches on with my taste buds...lol

 

 

Thanks,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:16:26 PM

RE: [Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring sense of

taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

Hi Jeannie,

 

First, you need not do everything at once. At the same time, realize that

all these flavor enhancers are intended to do one thing: mask the real

flavor of the foods.

 

Give your system time to heal your taste buds and sense of smell. Then

things will all seem quite a bit different. I used to eat lots of salt,

spices, of every conceivable type. Now, I imagine most of them would taste

horrific to me (though I have no intention of finding this out ... I've

experimented a couple of times, that was enough for me!

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:35 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring

sense of taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

I am still not using salt and still am not used to it. (second day) I ate my

salad with raw apple cider vinegar and it was soooo " vinegary " . I didn't

have the salt to temper the acid taste of the vinegar. I ate it anyway

because I was hungry. lol

I am going to keep trying this experiment. I hope I can get past this " not

liking the taste of my food " time.

 

So, are you saying that you eat vegetables with ABSOLUTELY NO salt and/or

spices at all???? I mean,even the raw foods that are in the raw cookbooks

have salt and/or spices. Ok...ok..I am dragging my feet, but I am doing it.

 

I had an avocado in salad and it really tastes bland with out salt....Ok,

ok...I'm whining...but I'm doing it.

 

You know not all vegetables are at their peek of flavor. Do you EVER feel

the need to enhance flavors?

 

Sadly,

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

 

Ok, I thought fruit and salad was not a good combination. What fruit

combination would you suggest? I like all fruits.

 

So are you saying that lemon, lime, & vinegar is bad for you too? Say it isn't

so..... waaaaaaaaa waaaaaa waaaaa

 

This gets stranger every day...........lol

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:18:33 PM

RE: [Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring sense of

taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

Jeannie and Caron,

This comment (below) reminds me of a great suggestion that I forgot to

mention earlier. Take some fruit that you enjoy, cut it up into small

pieces, and sprinkle that into your salad ... instead of any vinegar or

lemon juice. At this point, I cannot even remember when I last used lemon

juice on anything. Transitioning takes some time ... your body needs time to

heal your taste buds ... then they'll function entirely differently.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Caron

Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:04 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] FW: [PathOfHealth] A matter of taste [Restoring

sense of taste and sense of small] (Jeannie)

 

 

I am going to keep trying this experiment. I hope I can get past this " not

liking the taste of my food " time.

 

Jeannie, you're doing really well, trying this again despite not liking it

the first time ) Have you tried having your salad without the lemon or

vinegar? Taste the salad on its own. It won't taste strong, or spicy or

lemony or vinegary, it'll taste like salad.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Friday 22 June 2007 04:37, jeannieh h wrote:

> I seem to be the only salt fiend in this group...darn it!!  I can't get

> anyone on my side.......... :-(  

 

Perhaps you missed my post then?

 

neal.

 

p.s. and when I refer to salt I refer to Celtic Ocean Sea Salt, the one that

is not misrepresented as only Sodium Chloride with a bunch of other minerals,

but the one that has almost the entire spectrum of minerals and trace

elements as occurs in its natural state in the oceans.

 

and the difference between SC and COSS can be noticed immediately if one puts

a small pinch on the tongue (not swallowed), one of the two, then rinse away

then the other.

 

happy shaking

 

neal.