Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Hi Rudy, this is a great question and well answered in the archive. But the best teacher is your own experience. Just go without for 60 days, then eat some straight, by itself, first food of the day. Then observe your system's response. The response in your mouth will likely be a sufficient lesson. And if not, then what happens downstream surely will. And then you'll never have to rely upon anyone's input again. Yes, there are specific substances one can name that are toxic to our species ... garlic is not food for our species. If you were walking around and feeling genuine hunger, then saw some garlic growing, you would not salivate ... your system would not create such a response of attraction. To my knowledge, the only ways people can eat garlic, usually even in the smallest of quantities, are: 1. Cook it. 2. Bury it in a mountain of other foods (aka, use it in very small portions in an otherwise much larger recipe). In other words, we mask its real flavor in order to get it down. Who eats raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity? The moment you eat it, your body sets to work eliminating the toxic components. That's why your poop, urine, breath, skin, every part of you smell like garlic for quite awhile. Few substances are so toxic to our systems that we employ EVERY eliminative pathway (digestive, urinary, respiratory) AND bring in overflow pathways (skin), all at the same time, just to get rid of the stuff. It has to do with listening to one's body. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Raoul Valle Friday, June 22, 2007 5:52 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose Now I am really curious. Can someone tell me where it is documented that garlic harms the system? Where would I go to research this question? How did some of you come to this conclusion? Rudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Wow, I never thought of this. But the bodies response to garlic as you describe is so true. Never thought about it being because it was toxic. But it will keep the bugs off of you. As well as everybody else. Shew. I guess the same goes for onions? I cannot hardley eat raw onions anymore. They tear my stomach up and I taste them for more than 24 hours after eating. blek. It ain't worth it. Belinda rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: > > Hi Rudy, this is a great question and well answered in the archive. But the > best teacher is your own experience. Just go without for 60 days, then eat > some straight, by itself, first food of the day. Then observe your system's > response. The response in your mouth will likely be a sufficient lesson. And > if not, then what happens downstream surely will. And then you'll never have > to rely upon anyone's input again. > > Yes, there are specific substances one can name that are toxic to our > species ... garlic is not food for our species. If you were walking around > and feeling genuine hunger, then saw some garlic growing, you would not > salivate ... your system would not create such a response of attraction. > > To my knowledge, the only ways people can eat garlic, usually even in the > smallest of quantities, are: > > 1. Cook it. > 2. Bury it in a mountain of other foods (aka, use it in very small portions > in an otherwise much larger recipe). > > In other words, we mask its real flavor in order to get it down. Who eats > raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity? > > The moment you eat it, your body sets to work eliminating the toxic > components. That's why your poop, urine, breath, skin, every part of you > smell like garlic for quite awhile. Few substances are so toxic to our > systems that we employ EVERY eliminative pathway (digestive, urinary, > respiratory) AND bring in overflow pathways (skin), all at the same time, > just to get rid of the stuff. > > It has to do with listening to one's body. > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Raoul Valle > Friday, June 22, 2007 5:52 AM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose > > > Now I am really curious. Can someone tell me where it is documented that > garlic harms the system? Where would I go to research this question? How did > some of you come to this conclusion? Rudy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 ROTFLMAO.................visualizing your mutiny.... Jeanni your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Antie Em <emusedmary rawfood Friday, June 22, 2007 8:20:48 AM [Raw Food] Re: Garlic redux Yes I didn't and I'm ok! :-) but then I didn't go on the bike-I will try that tomorrow as for garlic like I said-I am not 100% sure but will let it go for me see what changes it will bring after a month or so Serving bland food to the family ...well I might have a mutiny -yet most of my kids can cook-even the 10 year old so they can also take care of themselves for a bit. Actually i am going to skip red onions on salad-i was eating those because i thought they were good for me but I burp them up all afternoon. I am drinking quite a bit of water-I think because i am skipping coofeee and husband made it today and I still didn't haveit Dancing with you! Emrawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > > (doing a happy dance for E) > You didn't have coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! > > I agree about what you say about the garlic. I am sad to see it go. I don't want to believe it but if I let my logical brain do it's thing...It does make sense. > > > Jeannie > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Antie Em <emusedmary > rawfood > Friday, June 22, 2007 6:12:31 AM > [Raw Food] Re: Garlic redux > > > E, > oh don't worry-I'm pretty quick at getting things-I think that is why > I was in > shock > because it is something that intuitively made sense > in my gut > but my head is struggling with it. > I bring cookbooks into bed to read and garlic has been a favorite > companion in the kitchen > Now I guess I will bring uncookbooks to bed. > btw it made so much sense to me that i didn't have coffee today-it was > a logicalleap. > Now having made soups for years with many cloves of garlic-for the > family...esp when they are sick- > and my family all 6 of us love it -hmmmm that is also the difficult part > I can't imagine not preparing foods without it > guacamole for instance > ..anyway after that post I googled it a bit > and also started thinking of it as a form of chemotherapy if that > makes sense- > thanks > Emrawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan@> wrote: > > > > Hi Em, > > > > Garlic contains certain substances which some people believe are > " helpful " . > > Therefore they state that garlic is helpful. > > > > Among these substances are those that can kill ... that are > antibacterial > > and/or antifungal in nature. Those that hold these properties to be > > " helpful " believe in treatment of symptoms, rather than in > correction of the > > cause of whatever ails us. I believe otherwise, and therefore I do > not hold > > these substances to be helpful, but rather a means of destroying life. I > > choose to affirm life at every available opportunity ... life of every > > conceivable size and type. > > > > In addition, garlic definitely contains substances that are overtly > harmful > > to us. How long must one wait, after eating garlic, for one's body to do > > into overdrive getting rid of the stuff? Seconds, at most. > > > > Make sense? > > Elchanan > > _____ > > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On > Behalf Of > > Antie Em > > Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:13 PM > > rawfood > > [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose > > > > > > > > > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId > > =31389/stime=1182471217/nc1=3848429/nc2=4025321/nc3=4670553> > > I had read somewhere about onions7 garlic being overstimulating. > > I love both and had no idea that garlic would be harmful > > I have always used a great deal of garlic in cooking. > > Thats very interesting info. > > > > Em > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Hi Em, You have time ... for example, you can reduce the amount of garlic, let them adapt a bit over a period of several weeks or a month or two. Is anyone in your family so severely ill as to create a sense of urgency? Patience, best to travel in and with your family as far as you can, I think. Just quick thoughts ... Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Antie Em Friday, June 22, 2007 6:21 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Garlic redux Yes I didn't and I'm ok! :-) but then I didn't go on the bike-I will try that tomorrow as for garlic like I said-I am not 100% sure but will let it go for me see what changes it will bring after a month or so Serving bland food to the family ...well I might have a mutiny -yet most of my kids can cook-even the 10 year old so they can also take care of themselves for a bit. Actually i am going to skip red onions on salad-i was eating those because i thought they were good for me but I burp them up all afternoon. I am drinking quite a bit of water-I think because i am skipping coofeee and husband made it today and I still didn't haveit Dancing with you! Em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as unhealthy-?! I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Elchanan, You wrote: " Who eats raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity? " Answer: My Italian co-worker and her family. They eat it like candy. In all the food she cooks.I've never seen anything like it. I thought I loved garlic (I do in cooked foods as flavor enhancer). She said that when she goes back to Italy she gets much better garlic than there is here. I asked her if she has had any health issues from eating so much garlic both raw and cooked she said no and that they believe that is why they are all so healthy. Go figure. I didn't want to burst her bubble and tell her that I'm learning it is poison to our system. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Elchanan <Elchanan rawfood Friday, June 22, 2007 2:07:30 PM [Raw Food] Garlic Redux Hi Rudy, this is a great question and well answered in the archive. But the best teacher is your own experience. Just go without for 60 days, then eat some straight, by itself, first food of the day. Then observe your system's response. The response in your mouth will likely be a sufficient lesson. And if not, then what happens downstream surely will. And then you'll never have to rely upon anyone's input again. Yes, there are specific substances one can name that are toxic to our species ... garlic is not food for our species. If you were walking around and feeling genuine hunger, then saw some garlic growing, you would not salivate ... your system would not create such a response of attraction. To my knowledge, the only ways people can eat garlic, usually even in the smallest of quantities, are: 1. Cook it. 2. Bury it in a mountain of other foods (aka, use it in very small portions in an otherwise much larger recipe). In other words, we mask its real flavor in order to get it down. Who eats raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity? The moment you eat it, your body sets to work eliminating the toxic components. That's why your poop, urine, breath, skin, every part of you smell like garlic for quite awhile. Few substances are so toxic to our systems that we employ EVERY eliminative pathway (digestive, urinary, respiratory) AND bring in overflow pathways (skin), all at the same time, just to get rid of the stuff. It has to do with listening to one's body. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Raoul Valle Friday, June 22, 2007 5:52 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose Now I am really curious. Can someone tell me where it is documented that garlic harms the system? Where would I go to research this question? How did some of you come to this conclusion? Rudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I don't eat garlic because my daughter and husband don't appreciate my garlic breath Caroline rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Friday, June 22, 2007 5:29 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as unhealthy-?! I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Hi, forgot to reply to this I could this my family is vey well. Actually quite bright-piano playing,acting,kayaking,fencing and oldest invited to MIT for think tank adventures(he has been going for afew months now) and I have been paying attention to their nutrition for sometime now- The summer will be easy iwill have a great time not cooking yet doing other things I love btw I homeschool after homebirthing-without much pain-not any in a for 2 of them (sorry just wanted to mention that) very possible anyway didn't want t mention the homeschool since we are not home much just out in the world it seems a very weird term for what we do Em rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: > > Hi Em, > You have time ... for example, you can reduce the amount of garlic, let them > adapt a bit over a period of several weeks or a month or two. Is anyone in > your family so severely ill as to create a sense of urgency? > > Patience, best to travel in and with your family as far as you can, I think. > Just quick thoughts ... > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Antie Em > Friday, June 22, 2007 6:21 AM > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: Garlic redux > > > Yes I didn't and I'm ok! > :-) > but then I didn't go on the bike-I will try that tomorrow > as for garlic > like I said-I am not 100% sure but will let it go for me > see what changes it will bring after a month or so > Serving bland food to the family ...well I might have a mutiny -yet > most of my kids can cook-even the 10 year old so they can also take > care of themselves for a bit. > Actually i am going to skip red onions on salad-i was eating those > because i thought they were good for me but I burp them up all afternoon. > I am drinking quite a bit of water-I think because i am skipping coofeee > and husband made it today and I still didn't haveit > Dancing with you! > Em > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 - Elchanan >The moment you eat it, your body sets to work eliminating the toxic components. That's why your poop, urine, breath, skin, every part of you smell like garlic for quite awhile. Few substances are so toxic to our systems that we employ EVERY eliminative pathway (digestive, urinary, respiratory) AND bring in overflow pathways (skin), all at the same time, just to get rid of the stuff. Which is why I cringed a few days ago, when one of the mums in another group I'm in asked for cold remedies/prevention because she's breastfeeding and can't take cold'n'flu medication. I suggested some fruit and rest, someone else suggested tylenol, someone else suggested herbs (most of which aren't recommended for breastfeeding), and someone else said " oh, just have a clove of garlic on toast... " She decided to try a bit of all of the above, and immediately noticed the effects of the garlic, but was told something to the effect of " that's how it works " . Caron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except, perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I am aware. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as unhealthy-?! I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Thanks, Jeannie. I've met a few like this, too. They've never known " not garlic " . But from my experiences with others, if they ever stopped for awhile, then started again, they'd have a very different experience. Of course, it's unlikely we'll get to conduct that experiment. :) Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h Friday, June 22, 2007 3:19 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Garlic Redux Elchanan, You wrote: " Who eats raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity? " Answer: My Italian co-worker and her family. They eat it like candy. In all the food she cooks.I've never seen anything like it. I thought I loved garlic (I do in cooked foods as flavor enhancer). She said that when she goes back to Italy she gets much better garlic than there is here. I asked her if she has had any health issues from eating so much garlic both raw and cooked she said no and that they believe that is why they are all so healthy. Go figure. I didn't want to burst her bubble and tell her that I'm learning it is poison to our system. Jeannie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I'm not surprised. When everyone I know gets sick, they eat tons of garlic and kick their cold in zero time at all..... Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Hello Everyone, As far as I have studied, garlic is one of the best natural antibiotic you can take.It’s antibacterial, antiviral and anti-fungal. Garlic is one food that you should be eating every day. Researchers have found that allicin, a chemical found in garlic that gives it its flavor, could be used to fight cancer. It appears that the natural chemical reaction that forms allicin, which occurs when the garlic is eaten or smashed, may penetrate and kill tumor cells. Please let me know what source you are using as a reference to say garlic is not good for you. Rudy ______________________________\ ____ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Ok, why are we adding ginger and cayenne to this discussion???? Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to add my ginger and cayenne???? ok, I see....next you are going to take away my radishes and my daikon????? Oh please tell me it isn't so. Despondent, Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Elchanan <Elchanan rawfood Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:40:24 AM RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except, perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I am aware. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as unhealthy-?! I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Ok, I avoid garlic and ginger because of the lingering after smell but I can not and won't give up my ginger!! I have to draw the line somewhere LOL!!! Caroline rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:41 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Ok, why are we adding ginger and cayenne to this discussion???? Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to add my ginger and cayenne???? ok, I see....next you are going to take away my radishes and my daikon????? Oh please tell me it isn't so. Despondent, Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Elchanan <Elchanan rawfood Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:40:24 AM RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except, perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I am aware. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as unhealthy-?! I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Caroline, We have to band together to protect our rights to our ginger!! Why, the ancient asian types lived long and healthy using ginger in many applications. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Caroline G Gomes <cggomes rawfood Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:24:31 AM RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Ok, I avoid garlic and ginger because of the lingering after smell but I can not and won't give up my ginger!! I have to draw the line somewhere LOL!!! Caroline rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:41 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Ok, why are we adding ginger and cayenne to this discussion???? Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to add my ginger and cayenne???? ok, I see....next you are going to take away my radishes and my daikon????? Oh please tell me it isn't so. Despondent, Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Elchanan <Elchanan rawfood Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:40:24 AM RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except, perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I am aware. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as unhealthy-?! I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Yes. Dr. Richard Schulze has healed thousands of people from AIDS, Cancer, MS, even Lou Gherig's, Lupus...all over the world. And a minimum of 3 cloves a day is part of his protocol for his Incurable's Program, big time. This man definitely knows what he is doing.... Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I LOVE it in my " juice " in the morning. I do carrots, ginger, an apple, some celery then add that to a blender stuffed with spinach. Fills me up and gives me the energy I need to start my day. Caroline rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h Saturday, June 23, 2007 12:25 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Caroline, We have to band together to protect our rights to our ginger!! Why, the ancient asian types lived long and healthy using ginger in many applications. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Caroline G Gomes <cggomes rawfood Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:24:31 AM RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Ok, I avoid garlic and ginger because of the lingering after smell but I can not and won't give up my ginger!! I have to draw the line somewhere LOL!!! Caroline rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of jeannieh h Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:41 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Ok, why are we adding ginger and cayenne to this discussion???? Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to add my ginger and cayenne???? ok, I see....next you are going to take away my radishes and my daikon????? Oh please tell me it isn't so. Despondent, Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Elchanan <Elchanan rawfood Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:40:24 AM RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except, perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I am aware. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as unhealthy-?! I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I completely agree that we should all protest ginger being " bad " for us. I love the stuff. ______________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 On Saturday 23 June 2007 14:40, jeannieh h wrote: > Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to > add my ginger and cayenne???? I haven't read anything about cayenne but I did actually give it up naturally when I started drinking my urine. In fact that is true of all spices. I don't consider celtic ocean sea salt to be a spice but a mineral supplement. Having said that, in the past I have found cayenne an excellent way to help with headache, migraine and head congestion. Hot curries too. Nature gives us all these things for a reason and I trust her foremost. neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 ok I'll join the ginger movement! Em rawfood , Kerri Myers <twinkles457 wrote: > > I completely agree that we should all protest ginger > being " bad " for us. > > I love the stuff. > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 I don't think there was any disagreement that garlic kills bacteria. The question was is it a healthy food? That it kills bacteria as well as it does should make us suspicious. Do I want all the bacteria in my body killed off? We avoid antibiotics because they kill off intestinal bacteria. I assume garlic does the same. For myself, when I'm cleansing, I prefer to simplify my diet. Depending on the amount of activity I am committed to I either eat acid/sub-acid fruit and drink lots of vegetable juices and water or if I can really take a break, I stop the work, relax and just drink water. That cold that's being treated with garlic didn't come from nowhere. The person is not a random victim of the cold bug. They took very specific actions to create that condition. The body is saying it's had enough and is pushing back. I assert that to short cut that reaction process, the cleansing process, is not learning the lesson. It's setting oneself up to repeat the cycle. I find that the body doesn't need any help with eliminating toxins. It knows just what to do. A problem for many of us is that those natural processes of healing aren't always pleasant. Who enjoys a runny nose, sore throat, headaches, diarrhea, etc. And we're addicted to pleasant and easy. We don't want to have to live through the result (effects) of our actions (causes). The other issue with garlic, etc is the adage: For every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. Garlic forces the body to react in a specific way - like coiling a spring - and the body is going to have to unreact - uncoil the spring. If we're embarking on the raw journey to discover the highest truth for ourselves in regard to the wisdom of the body, it seems that the least interference with the body's natural processes will lead to that experience. And... can we remember...? It's not supposed to be easy! Easy is to continue doing what we were doing without any awareness. ..wyn The Raw Retreat http://TheRawRetreat.com o) 888.EAT.RAW4LIFE f) 877.236.6999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Em, Ginger! Ginger! Ginger! ((chanting in support) Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Antie Em <emusedmary rawfood Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:43:20 PM [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux ok I'll join the ginger movement! Em rawfood , Kerri Myers <twinkles457 wrote: > > I completely agree that we should all protest ginger > being " bad " for us. > > I love the stuff. > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 On Saturday 23 June 2007 20:43, The Raw Retreat wrote: > I don't think there was any disagreement that garlic kills bacteria. > The question was is it a healthy food? > That it kills bacteria as well as it does should make us suspicious. > Do I want all the bacteria in my body killed off? > We avoid antibiotics because they kill off intestinal bacteria. I > assume garlic does the same. > Antibiotics are made by man! Is taking anti-bacterial to be " kills all bacteria " a sensible assumption. Silver is a naturally occurring substance on earth. It is an excellent anti-bacterial/fungal/viral agent. It has been clearly shown that silver does not destroy or harm in any way, beneficial bacteria. Nature is wise! > Garlic forces the body to > react in a specific way - like coiling a spring - and the body is > going to have to unreact - uncoil the spring. I would like to know the basis for that. Everything I have read leads me to the belief that where naturally occurring substance is fed to the body, the body responds by treating it with its own natural processes. The response may be to burst into a rash or vomit, but it is a natural response because it is caused by the body's own process. It is pharmaceuticals that bypass the normal processes and force the body into an unnatural response. > And... can we remember...? > > It's not supposed to be easy! for some, easy for others, impossible for others. I find it best to wait and see rather than start with the story already told. neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 On Saturday 23 June 2007 20:43, The Raw Retreat wrote: > I don't think there was any disagreement that garlic kills bacteria. > The question was is it a healthy food? > That it kills bacteria as well as it does should make us suspicious. > Do I want all the bacteria in my body killed off? > We avoid antibiotics because they kill off intestinal bacteria. I > assume garlic does the same. > Two other examples of nature came to mind. Xylitol which occurs naturally in many plants and Stevia a genus of 100+ plants (sunflower family) both of which are natural alternatives to sugar. Both are known for anti-bacterial properties as well as many other healthful properties which aid the body in correcting dis-ease. Perhaps nature in its wisdom knows it is mans' nature to not be perfect and so provides these other resources for when they are needed. All in moderation. neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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