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Hi Rudy, this is a great question and well answered in the archive. But the

best teacher is your own experience. Just go without for 60 days, then eat

some straight, by itself, first food of the day. Then observe your system's

response. The response in your mouth will likely be a sufficient lesson. And

if not, then what happens downstream surely will. And then you'll never have

to rely upon anyone's input again.

 

Yes, there are specific substances one can name that are toxic to our

species ... garlic is not food for our species. If you were walking around

and feeling genuine hunger, then saw some garlic growing, you would not

salivate ... your system would not create such a response of attraction.

 

To my knowledge, the only ways people can eat garlic, usually even in the

smallest of quantities, are:

 

1. Cook it.

2. Bury it in a mountain of other foods (aka, use it in very small portions

in an otherwise much larger recipe).

 

In other words, we mask its real flavor in order to get it down. Who eats

raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity?

 

The moment you eat it, your body sets to work eliminating the toxic

components. That's why your poop, urine, breath, skin, every part of you

smell like garlic for quite awhile. Few substances are so toxic to our

systems that we employ EVERY eliminative pathway (digestive, urinary,

respiratory) AND bring in overflow pathways (skin), all at the same time,

just to get rid of the stuff.

 

It has to do with listening to one's body.

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Raoul Valle

Friday, June 22, 2007 5:52 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Now I am really curious. Can someone tell me where it is documented that

garlic harms the system? Where would I go to research this question? How did

some of you come to this conclusion? Rudy

 

 

 

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Wow, I never thought of this. But the bodies response to garlic as

you describe is so true. Never thought about it being because it was

toxic.

 

But it will keep the bugs off of you. As well as everybody else.

Shew.

 

I guess the same goes for onions? I cannot hardley eat raw onions

anymore. They tear my stomach up and I taste them for more than 24

hours after eating. blek. It ain't worth it.

 

Belinda

 

 

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Hi Rudy, this is a great question and well answered in the archive.

But the

> best teacher is your own experience. Just go without for 60 days,

then eat

> some straight, by itself, first food of the day. Then observe your

system's

> response. The response in your mouth will likely be a sufficient

lesson. And

> if not, then what happens downstream surely will. And then you'll

never have

> to rely upon anyone's input again.

>

> Yes, there are specific substances one can name that are toxic to

our

> species ... garlic is not food for our species. If you were walking

around

> and feeling genuine hunger, then saw some garlic growing, you would

not

> salivate ... your system would not create such a response of

attraction.

>

> To my knowledge, the only ways people can eat garlic, usually even

in the

> smallest of quantities, are:

>

> 1. Cook it.

> 2. Bury it in a mountain of other foods (aka, use it in very small

portions

> in an otherwise much larger recipe).

>

> In other words, we mask its real flavor in order to get it down.

Who eats

> raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity?

>

> The moment you eat it, your body sets to work eliminating the toxic

> components. That's why your poop, urine, breath, skin, every part

of you

> smell like garlic for quite awhile. Few substances are so toxic to

our

> systems that we employ EVERY eliminative pathway (digestive,

urinary,

> respiratory) AND bring in overflow pathways (skin), all at the same

time,

> just to get rid of the stuff.

>

> It has to do with listening to one's body.

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Raoul Valle

> Friday, June 22, 2007 5:52 AM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

>

>

> Now I am really curious. Can someone tell me where it is documented

that

> garlic harms the system? Where would I go to research this

question? How did

> some of you come to this conclusion? Rudy

>

>

>

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ROTFLMAO.................visualizing your mutiny....

 

Jeanni

 

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

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rawfood

Friday, June 22, 2007 8:20:48 AM

[Raw Food] Re: Garlic redux

 

 

Yes I didn't and I'm ok!

:-)

but then I didn't go on the bike-I will try that tomorrow

as for garlic

like I said-I am not 100% sure but will let it go for me

see what changes it will bring after a month or so

Serving bland food to the family ...well I might have a mutiny -yet

most of my kids can cook-even the 10 year old so they can also take

care of themselves for a bit.

Actually i am going to skip red onions on salad-i was eating those

because i thought they were good for me but I burp them up all afternoon.

I am drinking quite a bit of water-I think because i am skipping coofeee

and husband made it today and I still didn't haveit

Dancing with you!

Emrawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> (doing a happy dance for E)

> You didn't have coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

>

> I agree about what you say about the garlic. I am sad to see it go.

I don't want to believe it but if I let my logical brain do it's

thing...It does make sense.

>

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to

no one.

>

>

>

>

> Antie Em <emusedmary

> rawfood

> Friday, June 22, 2007 6:12:31 AM

> [Raw Food] Re: Garlic redux

>

>

> E,

> oh don't worry-I'm pretty quick at getting things-I think that is why

> I was in

> shock

> because it is something that intuitively made sense

> in my gut

> but my head is struggling with it.

> I bring cookbooks into bed to read and garlic has been a favorite

> companion in the kitchen

> Now I guess I will bring uncookbooks to bed.

> btw it made so much sense to me that i didn't have coffee today-it was

> a logicalleap.

> Now having made soups for years with many cloves of garlic-for the

> family...esp when they are sick-

> and my family all 6 of us love it -hmmmm that is also the difficult part

> I can't imagine not preparing foods without it

> guacamole for instance

> ..anyway after that post I googled it a bit

> and also started thinking of it as a form of chemotherapy if that

> makes sense-

> thanks

> Emrawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Em,

> >

> > Garlic contains certain substances which some people believe are

> " helpful " .

> > Therefore they state that garlic is helpful.

> >

> > Among these substances are those that can kill ... that are

> antibacterial

> > and/or antifungal in nature. Those that hold these properties to be

> > " helpful " believe in treatment of symptoms, rather than in

> correction of the

> > cause of whatever ails us. I believe otherwise, and therefore I do

> not hold

> > these substances to be helpful, but rather a means of destroying

life. I

> > choose to affirm life at every available opportunity ... life of every

> > conceivable size and type.

> >

> > In addition, garlic definitely contains substances that are overtly

> harmful

> > to us. How long must one wait, after eating garlic, for one's body

to do

> > into overdrive getting rid of the stuff? Seconds, at most.

> >

> > Make sense?

> > Elchanan

> > _____

> >

> > rawfood [rawfood ] On

> Behalf Of

> > Antie Em

> > Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:13 PM

> > rawfood

> > [Raw Food] Re:Salt again, I suppose

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> > =31389/stime=1182471217/nc1=3848429/nc2=4025321/nc3=4670553>

> > I had read somewhere about onions7 garlic being overstimulating.

> > I love both and had no idea that garlic would be harmful

> > I have always used a great deal of garlic in cooking.

> > Thats very interesting info.

> >

> > Em

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Em,

You have time ... for example, you can reduce the amount of garlic, let them

adapt a bit over a period of several weeks or a month or two. Is anyone in

your family so severely ill as to create a sense of urgency?

 

Patience, best to travel in and with your family as far as you can, I think.

Just quick thoughts ...

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Antie Em

Friday, June 22, 2007 6:21 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Garlic redux

 

 

Yes I didn't and I'm ok!

:-)

but then I didn't go on the bike-I will try that tomorrow

as for garlic

like I said-I am not 100% sure but will let it go for me

see what changes it will bring after a month or so

Serving bland food to the family ...well I might have a mutiny -yet

most of my kids can cook-even the 10 year old so they can also take

care of themselves for a bit.

Actually i am going to skip red onions on salad-i was eating those

because i thought they were good for me but I burp them up all afternoon.

I am drinking quite a bit of water-I think because i am skipping coofeee

and husband made it today and I still didn't haveit

Dancing with you!

Em

 

 

 

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I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne

are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of

garlic as unhealthy-?!

 

I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and

vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they

can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's

unnatural.

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Elchanan,

 

You wrote:

" Who eats raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity? "

 

Answer: My Italian co-worker and her family. They eat it like candy. In all

the food she cooks.I've never seen anything like it. I thought I loved garlic (I

do in cooked foods as flavor enhancer). She said that when she goes back to

Italy she gets much better garlic than there is here.

 

I asked her if she has had any health issues from eating so much garlic both raw

and cooked she said no and that they believe that is why they are all so

healthy. Go figure.

 

I didn't want to burst her bubble and tell her that I'm learning it is poison to

our system.

 

Jeannie

 

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Friday, June 22, 2007 2:07:30 PM

[Raw Food] Garlic Redux

 

 

Hi Rudy, this is a great question and well answered in the archive. But the

best teacher is your own experience. Just go without for 60 days, then eat

some straight, by itself, first food of the day. Then observe your system's

response. The response in your mouth will likely be a sufficient lesson. And

if not, then what happens downstream surely will. And then you'll never have

to rely upon anyone's input again.

 

Yes, there are specific substances one can name that are toxic to our

species ... garlic is not food for our species. If you were walking around

and feeling genuine hunger, then saw some garlic growing, you would not

salivate ... your system would not create such a response of attraction.

 

To my knowledge, the only ways people can eat garlic, usually even in the

smallest of quantities, are:

 

1. Cook it.

2. Bury it in a mountain of other foods (aka, use it in very small portions

in an otherwise much larger recipe).

 

In other words, we mask its real flavor in order to get it down. Who eats

raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity?

 

The moment you eat it, your body sets to work eliminating the toxic

components. That's why your poop, urine, breath, skin, every part of you

smell like garlic for quite awhile. Few substances are so toxic to our

systems that we employ EVERY eliminative pathway (digestive, urinary,

respiratory) AND bring in overflow pathways (skin), all at the same time,

just to get rid of the stuff.

 

It has to do with listening to one's body.

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Raoul Valle

Friday, June 22, 2007 5:52 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Salt again, I suppose

 

 

Now I am really curious. Can someone tell me where it is documented that

garlic harms the system? Where would I go to research this question? How did

some of you come to this conclusion? Rudy

 

 

 

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I don't eat garlic because my daughter and husband don't appreciate my

garlic breath

 

Caroline

 

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Erica

Friday, June 22, 2007 5:29 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are

pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as

unhealthy-?!

 

I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So

they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " .

Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi,

forgot to reply to this

I could this

my family is vey well.

Actually quite bright-piano playing,acting,kayaking,fencing

and oldest invited to

MIT for think tank adventures(he has been going for afew months now)

and I have been paying attention to their nutrition for sometime now-

The summer will be easy

iwill have a great time

not cooking yet

doing other things I love

btw I homeschool after homebirthing-without much pain-not any in a

for 2 of them (sorry just wanted to mention that)

very possible

anyway

didn't want t mention the homeschool since we are not home much just

out in the world it seems a very weird term for what we do

Em

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Hi Em,

> You have time ... for example, you can reduce the amount of garlic,

let them

> adapt a bit over a period of several weeks or a month or two. Is

anyone in

> your family so severely ill as to create a sense of urgency?

>

> Patience, best to travel in and with your family as far as you can,

I think.

> Just quick thoughts ...

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Antie Em

> Friday, June 22, 2007 6:21 AM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Garlic redux

>

>

> Yes I didn't and I'm ok!

> :-)

> but then I didn't go on the bike-I will try that tomorrow

> as for garlic

> like I said-I am not 100% sure but will let it go for me

> see what changes it will bring after a month or so

> Serving bland food to the family ...well I might have a mutiny -yet

> most of my kids can cook-even the 10 year old so they can also take

> care of themselves for a bit.

> Actually i am going to skip red onions on salad-i was eating those

> because i thought they were good for me but I burp them up all

afternoon.

> I am drinking quite a bit of water-I think because i am skipping coofeee

> and husband made it today and I still didn't haveit

> Dancing with you!

> Em

>

>

>

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Elchanan

>The moment you eat it, your body sets to work eliminating the toxic

components. That's why your poop, urine, breath, skin, every part of you

smell like garlic for quite awhile. Few substances are so toxic to our

systems that we employ EVERY eliminative pathway (digestive, urinary,

respiratory) AND bring in overflow pathways (skin), all at the same time,

just to get rid of the stuff.

 

Which is why I cringed a few days ago, when one of the mums in another group

I'm in asked for cold remedies/prevention because she's breastfeeding and

can't take cold'n'flu medication. I suggested some fruit and rest, someone

else suggested tylenol, someone else suggested herbs (most of which aren't

recommended for breastfeeding), and someone else said " oh, just have a clove

of garlic on toast... " She decided to try a bit of all of the above, and

immediately noticed the effects of the garlic, but was told something to the

effect of " that's how it works " .

 

Caron

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Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except,

perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to

eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I

am aware.

 

Elchanan

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Erica

Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne

are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of

garlic as unhealthy-?!

 

I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and

vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they

can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's

unnatural.

 

 

 

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Thanks, Jeannie. I've met a few like this, too. They've never known " not

garlic " . But from my experiences with others, if they ever stopped for

awhile, then started again, they'd have a very different experience. Of

course, it's unlikely we'll get to conduct that experiment. :):)

 

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Friday, June 22, 2007 3:19 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Garlic Redux

 

 

Elchanan,

 

You wrote:

" Who eats raw garlic straight, especially in any quantity? "

 

Answer: My Italian co-worker and her family. They eat it like candy. In all

the food she cooks.I've never seen anything like it. I thought I loved

garlic (I do in cooked foods as flavor enhancer). She said that when she

goes back to Italy she gets much better garlic than there is here.

 

I asked her if she has had any health issues from eating so much garlic both

raw and cooked she said no and that they believe that is why they are all so

healthy. Go figure.

 

I didn't want to burst her bubble and tell her that I'm learning it is

poison to our system.

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

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I'm not surprised. When everyone I know gets sick, they eat tons of garlic and

kick their cold in zero time at all.....

 

 

 

 

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Hello Everyone, As far as I have studied, garlic is

one of the best natural antibiotic you can take.It’s

antibacterial, antiviral and anti-fungal. Garlic is

one food that you should be eating every day.

Researchers have found that allicin, a chemical found

in garlic that gives it its flavor, could be used to

fight cancer. It appears that the natural chemical

reaction that forms allicin, which occurs when the

garlic is eaten or smashed, may penetrate and kill

tumor cells. Please let me know what source you are

using as a reference to say garlic is not good for

you. Rudy

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ok, why are we adding ginger and cayenne to this discussion????

 

Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to add my

ginger and cayenne????

 

ok, I see....next you are going to take away my radishes and my daikon?????

 

Oh please tell me it isn't so.

 

Despondent,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

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rawfood

Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:40:24 AM

RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except,

perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to

eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I

am aware.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Erica

Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne

are pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of

garlic as unhealthy-?!

 

I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and

vegetables. So they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they

can't eat it " . Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's

unnatural.

 

 

 

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Ok, I avoid garlic and ginger because of the lingering after smell but I can

not and won't give up my ginger!! I have to draw the line somewhere LOL!!!

 

Caroline

 

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:41 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

Ok, why are we adding ginger and cayenne to this discussion????

 

Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to

add my ginger and cayenne????

 

ok, I see....next you are going to take away my radishes and my daikon?????

 

Oh please tell me it isn't so.

 

Despondent,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:40:24 AM

RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except,

perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to

eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I

am aware.

 

Elchanan

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Erica

Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are

pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as

unhealthy-?!

 

I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So

they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " .

Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural.

 

 

 

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Caroline,

 

We have to band together to protect our rights to our ginger!! Why, the ancient

asian types lived long and healthy using ginger in many applications.

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

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rawfood

Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:24:31 AM

RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

Ok, I avoid garlic and ginger because of the lingering after smell but I can

not and won't give up my ginger!! I have to draw the line somewhere LOL!!!

 

Caroline

 

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:41 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

Ok, why are we adding ginger and cayenne to this discussion????

 

Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to

add my ginger and cayenne????

 

ok, I see....next you are going to take away my radishes and my daikon?????

 

Oh please tell me it isn't so.

 

Despondent,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:40:24 AM

RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except,

perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to

eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I

am aware.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

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Erica

Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are

pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as

unhealthy-?!

 

I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So

they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " .

Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural.

 

 

 

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even Lou Gherig's, Lupus...all over the world. And a minimum of 3 cloves a day

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I LOVE it in my " juice " in the morning. I do carrots, ginger, an apple,

some celery then add that to a blender stuffed with spinach. Fills me up

and gives me the energy I need to start my day.

 

Caroline

 

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Saturday, June 23, 2007 12:25 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

Caroline,

 

We have to band together to protect our rights to our ginger!! Why, the

ancient asian types lived long and healthy using ginger in many

applications.

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Caroline G Gomes <cggomes

rawfood

Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:24:31 AM

RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

Ok, I avoid garlic and ginger because of the lingering after smell but I can

not and won't give up my ginger!! I have to draw the line somewhere LOL!!!

 

Caroline

 

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:41 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

Ok, why are we adding ginger and cayenne to this discussion????

 

Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to

add my ginger and cayenne????

 

ok, I see....next you are going to take away my radishes and my daikon?????

 

Oh please tell me it isn't so.

 

Despondent,

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:40:24 AM

RE: [Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

Hi Erica, reasonable points. The difference is that 100% of people (except,

perhaps, the VERY sick) respond to garlic by going into overdrive to

eliminate it. The same cannot be said for any fruit or vegetable of which I

am aware.

 

Elchanan

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Erica

Friday, June 22, 2007 2:29 PM

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[Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

I fail to see why just because things like garlic, ginger or cayenne are

pungent they should be avoided. It's just ridiculous to think of garlic as

unhealthy-?!

 

I know lots of people who have strong reactions to fruit and vegetables. So

they fault the food and say it " tears them up " or " they can't eat it " .

Doesn't mean that's true they shouldn't or that it's unnatural.

 

 

 

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On Saturday 23 June 2007 14:40, jeannieh h wrote:

> Ok, I've conceeded..........garlic and onions.........but now you want to

> add my ginger and cayenne????

 

I haven't read anything about cayenne but I did actually give it up naturally

when I started drinking my urine. In fact that is true of all spices. I don't

consider celtic ocean sea salt to be a spice but a mineral supplement.

 

Having said that, in the past I have found cayenne an excellent way to help

with headache, migraine and head congestion. Hot curries too. Nature gives us

all these things for a reason and I trust her foremost.

 

neal.

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ok

I'll join the ginger movement!

Em

rawfood , Kerri Myers <twinkles457 wrote:

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> I completely agree that we should all protest ginger

> being " bad " for us.

>

> I love the stuff.

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I don't think there was any disagreement that garlic kills bacteria.

The question was is it a healthy food?

That it kills bacteria as well as it does should make us suspicious.

Do I want all the bacteria in my body killed off?

We avoid antibiotics because they kill off intestinal bacteria. I

assume garlic does the same.

 

For myself, when I'm cleansing, I prefer to simplify my diet.

Depending on the amount of activity I am committed to I either eat

acid/sub-acid fruit and drink lots of vegetable juices and water or

if I can really take a break, I stop the work, relax and just drink

water.

 

That cold that's being treated with garlic didn't come from nowhere.

The person is not a random victim of the cold bug. They took very

specific actions to create that condition. The body is saying it's

had enough and is pushing back. I assert that to short cut that

reaction process, the cleansing process, is not learning the lesson.

It's setting oneself up to repeat the cycle.

 

I find that the body doesn't need any help with eliminating toxins.

It knows just what to do. A problem for many of us is that those

natural processes of healing aren't always pleasant. Who enjoys a

runny nose, sore throat, headaches, diarrhea, etc. And we're addicted

to pleasant and easy. We don't want to have to live through the

result (effects) of our actions (causes).

 

The other issue with garlic, etc is the adage: For every action

there's an equal and opposite reaction. Garlic forces the body to

react in a specific way - like coiling a spring - and the body is

going to have to unreact - uncoil the spring.

 

If we're embarking on the raw journey to discover the highest truth

for ourselves in regard to the wisdom of the body, it seems that the

least interference with the body's natural processes will lead to

that experience.

 

And... can we remember...?

 

It's not supposed to be easy!

 

Easy is to continue doing what we were doing without any awareness.

 

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Em,

 

Ginger! Ginger! Ginger! ((chanting in support)

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Antie Em <emusedmary

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Saturday, June 23, 2007 2:43:20 PM

[Raw Food] Re: Garlic Redux

 

 

ok

I'll join the ginger movement!

Em

rawfood , Kerri Myers <twinkles457 wrote:

>

> I completely agree that we should all protest ginger

> being " bad " for us.

>

> I love the stuff.

>

>

>

>

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On Saturday 23 June 2007 20:43, The Raw Retreat wrote:

> I don't think there was any disagreement that garlic kills bacteria.  

> The question was is it a healthy food?

> That it kills bacteria as well as it does should make us suspicious.  

> Do I want all the bacteria in my body killed off?

> We avoid antibiotics because they kill off intestinal bacteria. I  

> assume garlic does the same.

>

Antibiotics are made by man! Is taking anti-bacterial to be " kills all

bacteria " a sensible assumption.

 

Silver is a naturally occurring substance on earth. It is an excellent

anti-bacterial/fungal/viral agent. It has been clearly shown that silver does

not destroy or harm in any way, beneficial bacteria. Nature is wise!

 

> Garlic forces the body to

> react in a specific way - like coiling a spring - and the body is

> going to have to unreact - uncoil the spring.

 

I would like to know the basis for that. Everything I have read leads me to

the belief ;) that where naturally occurring substance is fed to the body,

the body responds by treating it with its own natural processes. The response

may be to burst into a rash or vomit, but it is a natural response because it

is caused by the body's own process.

 

It is pharmaceuticals that bypass the normal processes and force the body into

an unnatural response.

 

 

> And... can we remember...?

>

> It's not supposed to be easy!

for some, easy for others, impossible for others. I find it best to wait and

see rather than start with the story already told.

 

neal.

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On Saturday 23 June 2007 20:43, The Raw Retreat wrote:

> I don't think there was any disagreement that garlic kills bacteria.

> The question was is it a healthy food?

> That it kills bacteria as well as it does should make us suspicious.

> Do I want all the bacteria in my body killed off?

> We avoid antibiotics because they kill off intestinal bacteria. I

> assume garlic does the same.

>

 

Two other examples of nature came to mind. Xylitol which occurs naturally in

many plants and Stevia a genus of 100+ plants (sunflower family) both of

which are natural alternatives to sugar. Both are known for anti-bacterial

properties as well as many other healthful properties which aid the body in

correcting dis-ease.

 

Perhaps nature in its wisdom knows it is mans' nature to not be perfect and so

provides these other resources for when they are needed. All in moderation.

 

neal.

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