[Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

[Guest guest]

Caroline and Jeannie,

I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about the raw foods with

my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies and fends for himself

for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time about the salt and

vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great conditioner,

but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use the

phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and sees

nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

He's been researching the internet to try to find something that says

that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't found

anything.

Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've

already showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed

clean clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

Thanks so much!!

Lynne

>

> Janine wrote:

>

> " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him a steak

> tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't perfect are

> they???

> ;-) "

>

> You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he fends for

> himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to say, he doesn't eat

> raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

>

> Caroline

>

>

[Guest guest]

-

Lynne Moore

>Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've

already showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed

clean clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

Thanks so much!!

 

Hi Lynne,

There are plenty of resources online, that explain how it all works.

 

A way of showing him firsthand though, ask him to wash one day using salt

water only, or do it yourself - straight salt might be a bit harsh on your

skin, so dilute it in a bit of water first. I use bicarb soda (baking soda)

instead of salt, and it works great. I used to live near the beach, and

found that my skin (as a teenager) was much clearer and less oily when I

spent days on end in the ocean, and just rinsed off in the shower, without

using soap or shampoo. I'm not as far along as using salt in the washing

machine - not sure how my new frontloader would cope with it...

 

I haven't looked into the chemistry of it, if that's what you're after, so

not sure if it's the polarity of the ions in the water that attracts the

dirt or oils, or something else altogether, so your best bet is a web

search, or maybe someone else onlist knows...Elchanan?

 

Caron

[Guest guest]

I haven't tried the salt in the washing machine. I don't think my husband

would mind though because he always telling me how water is the universal

solvent or something to that affect. I may go ahead and try it though and

see how it works.

 

Are you using sea salt? How much for a normal size laundry load? Cold

water?

 

I'd like to give it a try.

 

Caroline

 

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Lynne Moore

Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:33 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

 

Caroline and Jeannie,

I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about the raw foods with my

husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies and fends for himself

for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time about the salt and

vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the clothes

clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great conditioner, but wants me

to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use the phosphate free

laundry detergent from the health food store and sees nothing wrong with

continuing with that!) He's been researching the internet to try to find

something that says that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so

far hasn't found anything.

Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've

already showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed clean

clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

Thanks so much!!

Lynne

>

> Janine wrote:

>

> " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him a

> steak tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't perfect

> are they???

> ;-) "

>

> You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he fends

> for himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to say, he

> doesn't eat raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

>

> Caroline

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Lynne,

 

I'll be watching for the proof as well. I am interested in this topic. I'm sure

we all are.

 

I don't see anything wrong with using the phosphate free detergent you are

using. At least you are using an environmentally friendly detergent. I am using

Tide..........

 

Keep the peace with your hubby. (jmho)

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Lynne Moore <fountayn

rawfood

Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:32:55 AM

Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

 

 

Caroline and Jeannie,

I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about the raw foods with

my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies and fends for himself

for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time about the salt and

vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great conditioner,

but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use the

phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and sees

nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

He's been researching the internet to try to find something that says

that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't found

anything.

Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've

already showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed

clean clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

Thanks so much!!

Lynne

>

> Janine wrote:

>

> " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him a steak

> tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't perfect are

> they???

> ;-) "

>

> You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he fends for

> himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to say, he doesn't eat

> raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

>

> Caroline

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-Well,

We made SOME progress! WE were searching the web and found an

article on " salt " and " laundry. " It said to get out stubborn

perspiration stains, soak the laundry in a solution of salt and

water!! I said, " If it can get out the worst perspiration stains,

then it should work great on ALL of the laundry. " That makes sense,

right? Now he's happy with my ADDING salt to the 7th Generation

Laundry detergent, as an accessory, but NOT as the entire cleaning

agent. So we compromised; I'm going to use just 1/4 of the amount

of laundry detergent (phosphate free,and which, by the way, contains

table salt in it!!), and add 1/4 cup of salt to it. I'll still be

using the vinegar - makes the clothes smell great and REALLY soft!!!

HOpe that helps,

Lynne

 

 

 

-- In rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> Lynne,

>

> I'll be watching for the proof as well. I am interested in this

topic. I'm sure we all are.

>

> I don't see anything wrong with using the phosphate free detergent

you are using. At least you are using an environmentally friendly

detergent. I am using Tide..........

>

> Keep the peace with your hubby. (jmho)

>

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised

to no one.

>

>

>

>

> Lynne Moore <fountayn

> rawfood

> Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:32:55 AM

> Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the

washer!

>

>

> Caroline and Jeannie,

> I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about the raw foods

with

> my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies and fends for

himself

> for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time about the salt

and

> vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

> He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

> clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great

conditioner,

> but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use

the

> phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and

sees

> nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

> He's been researching the internet to try to find something that

says

> that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't

found

> anything.

> Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that

I've

> already showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can

indeed

> clean clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

> Thanks so much!!

> Lynne

> >

> > Janine wrote:

> >

> > " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him

a steak

> > tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't perfect

are

> > they???

> > ;-) "

> >

> > You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he

fends for

> > himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to say, he

doesn't eat

> > raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

> >

> > Caroline

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-CAroline,

I " m using 1/4 cup of plain table salt. (Sea salt is too

expensive!). And I put 1/4 cup of plain white vinegar into the

conditioner dispenser.

Hope that helps,

Lynne

 

 

 

-- In rawfood , " Caroline G Gomes " <cggomes wrote:

>

> I haven't tried the salt in the washing machine. I don't think my

husband

> would mind though because he always telling me how water is the

universal

> solvent or something to that affect. I may go ahead and try it

though and

> see how it works.

>

> Are you using sea salt? How much for a normal size laundry load?

Cold

> water?

>

> I'd like to give it a try.

>

> Caroline

>

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Lynne Moore

> Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:33 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the

washer!

>

> Caroline and Jeannie,

> I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about the raw foods

with my

> husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies and fends for

himself

> for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time about the salt

and

> vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

> He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

clothes

> clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great conditioner, but

wants me

> to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use the

phosphate free

> laundry detergent from the health food store and sees nothing wrong

with

> continuing with that!) He's been researching the internet to try to

find

> something that says that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing,

but so

> far hasn't found anything.

> Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that

I've

> already showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can

indeed clean

> clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

> Thanks so much!!

> Lynne

> >

> > Janine wrote:

> >

> > " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him

a

> > steak tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't

perfect

> > are they???

> > ;-) "

> >

> > You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he

fends

> > for himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to say, he

> > doesn't eat raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

> >

> > Caroline

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

 

I am so happy you reached a compromise!!! That's awesome!!

 

I now have a load of laundry going with only salt........I put vinegar in for

the rinse. I'l let you know how it comes out.

 

 

The only thing that I have a question about is. Would the salt be harmful (long

term) for the washer? I mean salt can make things rust.

 

 

What do you think ?

 

Jeannie

 

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

fountayn2003 <fountayn

rawfood

Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:55:49 PM

Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

 

 

-Well,

We made SOME progress! WE were searching the web and found an

article on " salt " and " laundry. " It said to get out stubborn

perspiration stains, soak the laundry in a solution of salt and

water!! I said, " If it can get out the worst perspiration stains,

then it should work great on ALL of the laundry. " That makes sense,

right? Now he's happy with my ADDING salt to the 7th Generation

Laundry detergent, as an accessory, but NOT as the entire cleaning

agent. So we compromised; I'm going to use just 1/4 of the amount

of laundry detergent (phosphate free,and which, by the way, contains

table salt in it!!), and add 1/4 cup of salt to it. I'll still be

using the vinegar - makes the clothes smell great and REALLY soft!!!

HOpe that helps,

Lynne

 

 

 

-- In rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> Lynne,

>

> I'll be watching for the proof as well. I am interested in this

topic. I'm sure we all are.

>

> I don't see anything wrong with using the phosphate free detergent

you are using. At least you are using an environmentally friendly

detergent. I am using Tide..........

>

> Keep the peace with your hubby. (jmho)

>

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised

to no one.

>

>

>

>

> Lynne Moore <fountayn

> rawfood

> Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:32:55 AM

> Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the

washer!

>

>

> Caroline and Jeannie,

> I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about the raw foods

with

> my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies and fends for

himself

> for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time about the salt

and

> vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

> He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

> clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great

conditioner,

> but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use

the

> phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and

sees

> nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

> He's been researching the internet to try to find something that

says

> that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't

found

> anything.

> Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that

I've

> already showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can

indeed

> clean clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

> Thanks so much!!

> Lynne

> >

> > Janine wrote:

> >

> > " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him

a steak

> > tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't perfect

are

> > they???

> > ;-) "

> >

> > You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he

fends for

> > himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to say, he

doesn't eat

> > raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

> >

> > Caroline

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lynne,

 

Run this as 2 separate cycles, if you want to benefit from the separate

chemistries involved.

 

And do one small load as an experiment, with salt only. Don't tell him, see

whether he notices. Otherwise, he is dealing in the realm of what he does

not know he does not know, to which he has no access.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

fountayn2003

Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:56 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

 

 

-Well,

We made SOME progress! WE were searching the web and found an

article on " salt " and " laundry. " It said to get out stubborn

perspiration stains, soak the laundry in a solution of salt and

water!! I said, " If it can get out the worst perspiration stains,

then it should work great on ALL of the laundry. " That makes sense,

right? Now he's happy with my ADDING salt to the 7th Generation

Laundry detergent, as an accessory, but NOT as the entire cleaning

agent. So we compromised; I'm going to use just 1/4 of the amount

of laundry detergent (phosphate free,and which, by the way, contains

table salt in it!!), and add 1/4 cup of salt to it. I'll still be

using the vinegar - makes the clothes smell great and REALLY soft!!!

HOpe that helps,

Lynne

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Lynne,

 

There is no " proof " , the word does not apply here. What exists is experience

.... and some chemistry, but that would not likely interest most people.

 

Just give him the clothes and see whether he notices any difference at all

.... just do it!

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Caron

Sunday, June 24, 2007 7:45 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

 

 

 

-

Lynne Moore

>Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've

already showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed

clean clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

Thanks so much!!

 

Hi Lynne,

There are plenty of resources online, that explain how it all works.

 

A way of showing him firsthand though, ask him to wash one day using salt

water only, or do it yourself - straight salt might be a bit harsh on your

skin, so dilute it in a bit of water first. I use bicarb soda (baking soda)

instead of salt, and it works great. I used to live near the beach, and

found that my skin (as a teenager) was much clearer and less oily when I

spent days on end in the ocean, and just rinsed off in the shower, without

using soap or shampoo. I'm not as far along as using salt in the washing

machine - not sure how my new frontloader would cope with it...

 

I haven't looked into the chemistry of it, if that's what you're after, so

not sure if it's the polarity of the ions in the water that attracts the

dirt or oils, or something else altogether, so your best bet is a web

search, or maybe someone else onlist knows...Elchanan?

 

Caron

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Good heavens, it sounds as if he actually comprehends what's going on!!!

Yes, yes, water is the universal solvent, in chemistry. Water has properties

not found in any other known molecule. When we add salt to water, certain

changes occur in the water itself, electrically, weight (specific gravity,

becomes heavier), in surface tension, and so forth. And these changes make

salt (sodium chloride) GREAT in laundry and LOUSY in blood.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Caroline G Gomes

Sunday, June 24, 2007 8:29 AM

rawfood

RE: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

 

 

I haven't tried the salt in the washing machine. I don't think my husband

would mind though because he always telling me how water is the universal

solvent or something to that affect. I may go ahead and try it though and

see how it works.

 

Are you using sea salt? How much for a normal size laundry load? Cold

water?

 

I'd like to give it a try.

 

Caroline

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-

fountayn2003

>-Well,

We made SOME progress! WE were searching the web and found an

article on " salt " and " laundry. " It said to get out stubborn

perspiration stains, soak the laundry in a solution of salt and

water!! I said, " If it can get out the worst perspiration stains,

then it should work great on ALL of the laundry. " That makes sense,

right?

 

That's great that you found some info, and thankyou for sharing it with the

rest of us )

 

>Now he's happy with my ADDING salt to the 7th Generation

Laundry detergent, as an accessory, but NOT as the entire cleaning

agent. So we compromised; I'm going to use just 1/4 of the amount

of laundry detergent (phosphate free,and which, by the way, contains

table salt in it!!), and add 1/4 cup of salt to it. I'll still be

using the vinegar - makes the clothes smell great and REALLY soft!!!

 

The nappy group I'm part of here in Australia (promoting the use of cloth

nappies rather than disposables) recommends using 1/4 of the recommended

amount of detergent for washing nappies, to prevent nappy rash - I wash all

our clothes that way too. It gets them clean, and doesn't cause dry skin and

smelliness like it used to.

 

Does your husband really monitor your laundry that closely that he'd know

how much detergent you're using?

 

Caron

[Guest guest]

Jeannie,

I really don't know; Elchanan, do you have any advice about this?

Thanks,

Lynne

>

> Lynn,

>

> I am so happy you reached a compromise!!! That's awesome!!

>

> I now have a load of laundry going with only salt........I put vinegar

> in for the rinse. I'l let you know how it comes out.

>

> The only thing that I have a question about is. Would the salt be

> harmful (long term) for the washer? I mean salt can make things rust.

>

> What do you think ?

>

> Jeannie

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to

> no one.

>

>

> fountayn2003 <fountayn

> <fountayn%40optonline.net>>

> rawfood <rawfood%40>

> Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:55:49 PM

> Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the

> washer!

>

> -Well,

> We made SOME progress! WE were searching the web and found an

> article on " salt " and " laundry. " It said to get out stubborn

> perspiration stains, soak the laundry in a solution of salt and

> water!! I said, " If it can get out the worst perspiration stains,

> then it should work great on ALL of the laundry. " That makes sense,

> right? Now he's happy with my ADDING salt to the 7th Generation

> Laundry detergent, as an accessory, but NOT as the entire cleaning

> agent. So we compromised; I'm going to use just 1/4 of the amount

> of laundry detergent (phosphate free,and which, by the way, contains

> table salt in it!!), and add 1/4 cup of salt to it. I'll still be

> using the vinegar - makes the clothes smell great and REALLY soft!!!

> HOpe that helps,

> Lynne

>

> -- In rawfood <rawfood%40>,

> jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

> >

> > Lynne,

> >

> > I'll be watching for the proof as well. I am interested in this

> topic. I'm sure we all are.

> >

> > I don't see anything wrong with using the phosphate free detergent

> you are using. At least you are using an environmentally friendly

> detergent. I am using Tide..........

> >

> > Keep the peace with your hubby. (jmho)

> >

> >

> > Jeannie

> >

> > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised

> to no one.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Lynne Moore <fountayn

> > rawfood <rawfood%40>

> > Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:32:55 AM

> > Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the

> washer!

> >

> >

> > Caroline and Jeannie,

> > I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about the raw foods

> with

> > my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies and fends for

> himself

> > for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time about the salt

> and

> > vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

> > He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

> > clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great

> conditioner,

> > but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use

> the

> > phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and

> sees

> > nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

> > He's been researching the internet to try to find something that

> says

> > that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't

> found

> > anything.

> > Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that

> I've

> > already showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can

> indeed

> > clean clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

> > Thanks so much!!

> > Lynne

> > >

> > > Janine wrote:

> > >

> > > " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him

> a steak

> > > tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't perfect

> are

> > > they???

> > > ;-) "

> > >

> > > You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he

> fends for

> > > himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to say, he

> doesn't eat

> > > raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

> > >

> > > Caroline

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Actually, Caron,

My dh is usually the one who puts the clothes in the washing machine,

and then from the washer to the dryer and then upstairs. In actuality,

HE'S the one who does the laundry in this family. I have the task of

folding up the clothes and putting them away after he dumps them onto

our bed!! So to answer your question, YES, he notices because I have to

tell him NOT to put the laundry detergent in.

So I guess you pay a price for a husband that helps out a lot

around the house? heh??

Lynne

>

>

> -

> fountayn2003

> >-Well,

> We made SOME progress! WE were searching the web and found an

> article on " salt " and " laundry. " It said to get out stubborn

> perspiration stains, soak the laundry in a solution of salt and

> water!! I said, " If it can get out the worst perspiration stains,

> then it should work great on ALL of the laundry. " That makes sense,

> right?

>

> That's great that you found some info, and thankyou for sharing it

> with the

> rest of us )

>

> >Now he's happy with my ADDING salt to the 7th Generation

> Laundry detergent, as an accessory, but NOT as the entire cleaning

> agent. So we compromised; I'm going to use just 1/4 of the amount

> of laundry detergent (phosphate free,and which, by the way, contains

> table salt in it!!), and add 1/4 cup of salt to it. I'll still be

> using the vinegar - makes the clothes smell great and REALLY soft!!!

>

> The nappy group I'm part of here in Australia (promoting the use of cloth

> nappies rather than disposables) recommends using 1/4 of the recommended

> amount of detergent for washing nappies, to prevent nappy rash - I

> wash all

> our clothes that way too. It gets them clean, and doesn't cause dry

> skin and

> smelliness like it used to.

>

> Does your husband really monitor your laundry that closely that he'd know

> how much detergent you're using?

>

> Caron

>

>

[Guest guest]

-

Lynne Moore

>Actually, Caron,

My dh is usually the one who puts the clothes in the washing machine,

and then from the washer to the dryer and then upstairs. In actuality,

HE'S the one who does the laundry in this family. I have the task of

folding up the clothes and putting them away after he dumps them onto

our bed!! So to answer your question, YES, he notices because I have to

tell him NOT to put the laundry detergent in.

So I guess you pay a price for a husband that helps out a lot

around the house? heh??

 

Hi Lynne, I think in that case, I'd be quite happy to compromise ;o) (Unless

the detergent is causing skin irritations) Where can I find me one of

those??

 

Caron

[Guest guest]

This is a great and common question. As far as I know, the working

(mechanical) mechanisms of the washer are all completely sealed and away

from the water itself. So it should be fine. If I were to anticipate any

problem, it might be that a hose would need replacing after awhile. But I'm

unaware of even that problem ever occurring, I'm just imagining what might

occur.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Lynne Moore

Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:47 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

 

 

Jeannie,

I really don't know; Elchanan, do you have any advice about this?

Thanks,

Lynne

>

> Lynn,

>

> I am so happy you reached a compromise!!! That's awesome!!

>

> I now have a load of laundry going with only salt........I put vinegar

> in for the rinse. I'l let you know how it comes out.

>

> The only thing that I have a question about is. Would the salt be

> harmful (long term) for the washer? I mean salt can make things rust.

>

> What do you think ?

>

> Jeannie

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Or better yet, fill the box with only salt and have him do the

laundry! Just kidding...

 

Honestly, it's a load of laundry and if salt and vinegar gets out cat

urine smell, as it did in my home, that should be enough to convince

the worst skeptics. ...or so I might think.

 

As for using salt in machines, it handles the salt from our bodies

that is deposited in the clothes quite well. And, the parts of the

machine that may be compromised by salt never touch the stuff.

 

Janet

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

 

 

Lynne, There is no " proof " , the word does not apply here. What exists

is experience ... and some chemistry, but that would not likely

interest most people.

 

Just give him the clothes and see whether he notices any difference at

all ... just do it!

 

Elchanan _____ rawfood

[rawfood ] On Behalf Of Caron Sunday, June

24, 2007 7:45 AM rawfood Re: [Raw

Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

 

 

 

- Lynne Moore Is there any proof

anywhere, other than the proof that I've already showed him of our

clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed clean clothes well,

including removal of oils from our body?

Thanks so much!!

 

Hi Lynne, There are plenty of resources online, that explain how it

all works.

 

A way of showing him firsthand though, ask him to wash one day using

salt water only, or do it yourself - straight salt might be a bit

harsh on your skin, so dilute it in a bit of water first. I use

bicarb soda (baking soda)

instead of salt, and it works great. I used to live near the beach,

and found that my skin (as a teenager) was much clearer and less oily

when I spent days on end in the ocean, and just rinsed off in the

shower, without using soap or shampoo. I'm not as far along as using

salt in the washing machine - not sure how my new frontloader would

cope with it...

 

I haven't looked into the chemistry of it, if that's what you're

after, so not sure if it's the polarity of the ions in the water that

attracts the dirt or oils, or something else altogether, so your best

bet is a web search, or maybe someone else onlist knows...Elchanan?

 

Caron

[Guest guest]

The cost of that 7th Generation stuff is reason alone to make the big

switch. Then, there's more money for really important things, like

giving, or buying more organic, or saving for college, etc. Better

yet, just send it to me!

 

Janet

 

rawfood , Lynne Moore <fountayn wrote:

 

Caroline and Jeannie, I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about the

raw foods with my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies and

fends for himself for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time

about the salt and vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great conditioner,

but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use

the phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and

sees nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

He's been researching the internet to try to find something that says

that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't found

anything.

Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've already

showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed clean

clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

Thanks so much!!

Lynne Janine wrote:

 

" As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him a

steak tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't perfect

are they???

;-) "

 

You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he

fends for himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to say,

he doesn't eat raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

 

Caroline

[Guest guest]

What do you wash dishes with?

I still wash mine the old fashion way, by hand. I don't have a

dishwasher.

 

Belinda

 

 

rawfood , " Janet FitzGerald " <waxplanet

wrote:

>

> The cost of that 7th Generation stuff is reason alone to make the

big

> switch. Then, there's more money for really important things, like

> giving, or buying more organic, or saving for college, etc. Better

> yet, just send it to me!

>

> Janet

>

> rawfood , Lynne Moore <fountayn@> wrote:

>

> Caroline and Jeannie, I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about

the

> raw foods with my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies

and

> fends for himself for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time

> about the salt and vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

> He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

> clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great

conditioner,

> but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use

> the phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and

> sees nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

> He's been researching the internet to try to find something that

says

> that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't

found

> anything.

> Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've already

> showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed clean

> clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

> Thanks so much!!

> Lynne Janine wrote:

>

> " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him a

> steak tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't

perfect

> are they???

> ;-) "

>

> You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he

> fends for himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to

say,

> he doesn't eat raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

>

> Caroline

>

[Guest guest]

Belinda,

 

I do have a dishwasher, however, I wash them BEFORE I put them in the

dishwasher. lol My dh thinks that is silly but I just do it as a habit. I can't

stand just putting them in dirty. I use the cascade tablets. I often use

vinegar to enhance the rinse. Glasses come out very clean and streak free.

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Belinda <MistyBlueTN

rawfood

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:44:07 AM

Re: [Raw Food]Salt and vinegar for cleaning clothes in the washer!

 

 

What do you wash dishes with?

I still wash mine the old fashion way, by hand. I don't have a

dishwasher.

 

Belinda

 

 

rawfood , " Janet FitzGerald " <waxplanet

wrote:

>

> The cost of that 7th Generation stuff is reason alone to make the

big

> switch. Then, there's more money for really important things, like

> giving, or buying more organic, or saving for college, etc. Better

> yet, just send it to me!

>

> Janet

>

> rawfood , Lynne Moore <fountayn@> wrote:

>

> Caroline and Jeannie, I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about

the

> raw foods with my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies

and

> fends for himself for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time

> about the salt and vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

> He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

> clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great

conditioner,

> but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use

> the phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and

> sees nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

> He's been researching the internet to try to find something that

says

> that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't

found

> anything.

> Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've already

> showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed clean

> clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

> Thanks so much!!

> Lynne Janine wrote:

>

> " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him a

> steak tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't

perfect

> are they???

> ;-) "

>

> You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he

> fends for himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to

say,

> he doesn't eat raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

>

> Caroline

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Belinda,

 

Right now, we're using 7th Gen stuff. I'm all eyes for something

better, though.

 

Janet

 

rawfood , " Belinda " <MistyBlueTN wrote:

 

 

What do you wash dishes with?

I still wash mine the old fashion way, by hand. I don't have a

dishwasher.

 

Belinda

rawfood , " Janet FitzGerald " <waxplanet@> wrote:

 

The cost of that 7th Generation stuff is reason alone to make the big

switch. Then, there's more money for really important things, like

giving, or buying more organic, or saving for college, etc. Better

yet, just send it to me!

 

Janet

rawfood , Lynne Moore <fountayn@> wrote:

 

Caroline and Jeannie, I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about the

raw foods with my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies and

fends for himself for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time

about the salt and vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great conditioner,

but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use

the phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and

sees nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

He's been researching the internet to try to find something that says

that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't found

anything.

Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've already

showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed clean

clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

Thanks so much!!

Lynne Janine wrote:

 

" As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him a

steak tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't perfect

are they???

;-) "

 

You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he

fends for himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to say,

he doesn't eat raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

[Guest guest]

> He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

> clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great conditioner,

> but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. (

 

 

 

So exactly how much of each do you use? I hope I didn't miss this

already. Salt in the first cycle, vinegar as a rinse aid?

 

Thanks,

Crystal

[Guest guest]

Hi Chrystal,

Yes, that is correct; the salt goes in the laundry detergent

dispenser and the vinegar goes in the conditioner or rinse dispenser.

I use 1/4 cup of each.

Hope that helps,

LYnne

 

 

 

-- In rawfood , " corndoggirl1977 "

<crystalandbrock wrote:

>

>

> > He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

> > clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great

conditioner,

> > but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. (

>

>

>

> So exactly how much of each do you use? I hope I didn't miss this

> already. Salt in the first cycle, vinegar as a rinse aid?

>

> Thanks,

> Crystal

>

[Guest guest]

Is that the stuff sold in health food type stores?

 

Target has a line of cleaning products that is environmentaly safe.

I get it when I go to Target. I can't remember the name of it right

now.

 

Belinda

 

 

-- In rawfood , " Janet FitzGerald " <waxplanet

wrote:

>

> Belinda,

>

> Right now, we're using 7th Gen stuff. I'm all eyes for something

> better, though.

>

> Janet

>

> rawfood , " Belinda " <MistyBlueTN@> wrote:

>

>

> What do you wash dishes with?

> I still wash mine the old fashion way, by hand. I don't have a

> dishwasher.

>

> Belinda

> rawfood , " Janet FitzGerald " <waxplanet@>

wrote:

>

> The cost of that 7th Generation stuff is reason alone to make the

big

> switch. Then, there's more money for really important things, like

> giving, or buying more organic, or saving for college, etc. Better

> yet, just send it to me!

>

> Janet

> rawfood , Lynne Moore <fountayn@> wrote:

>

> Caroline and Jeannie, I wouldn't mind so much if it was just about

the

> raw foods with my husband. ( He only eats my salads and smoothies

and

> fends for himself for the rest.) But now he's giving me a hard time

> about the salt and vinegar I started using with the laundry!!

> He says that SALT is not a laundry detergent and will NOT get the

> clothes clean!! He believes that the vinegar is a great

conditioner,

> but wants me to go back to laundry detergent for cleaning. ( WE use

> the phosphate free laundry detergent from the health food store and

> sees nothing wrong with continuing with that!)

> He's been researching the internet to try to find something that

says

> that " salt " can act as a cleaner for clothing, but so far hasn't

found

> anything.

> Is there any proof anywhere, other than the proof that I've already

> showed him of our clean clothes, to show that salt can indeed clean

> clothes well, including removal of oils from our body?

> Thanks so much!!

> Lynne Janine wrote:

>

> " As for your dh......my dh is not 100% either. I had to cook him a

> steak tonight because that is what he wanted. :-( They aren't

perfect

> are they???

> ;-) "

>

> You are so funny!!! My poor husband either eats what I eat or he

> fends for himself LOL!!! I'm not making two meals. Needless to

say,

> he doesn't eat raw food and I know he won't until he is ready.

>