Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 One limitation in any conversation such as this arises from taboos ... has there been a society without sexual taboos? We humans don't respond to " no " very well. Perhaps if we were to start over, with no taboos, then all this would go away. I do know, from personal experience, that very few Jewish children become alcoholics. Why? Because, at least historically (though changing now), Jewish kids drank a little wine on Sabbaths, Passover, etc. The absence of taboo means the absence of " titillation " , of overexcitement. Just a thought ...Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:45 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie i agree....they build in the titillation for no good reason..except mayb to upset the family..but thats another much bigger subject...not raw food related.we can see this in the obsession with breasts here......totally not like that in europe, africa or south america....it does increase porn sales though..ie. Magazines, internet sites, movies, etc... again...artificially creating the need then providing the cure.. its EVERYWHERE here....most americans are oblivious....but i digress.... so how bout the watermelons this season? Pretty sweet huh? anna On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@pathofheal <Elchanan%40pathofhealth.org> th.org> wrote: > Using our species' history as a guide, it appears to be entirely culturally > directed. And the more taboos, the more " misbehaviors " . > Elchanan <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId =31808/stime=1182714322/nc1=3848446/nc2=4025338/nc3=4659943> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 absolutely.. in native american cultures coitus was considered so natural a function that it was enjoyed even when sleeping in groups inside teepees...it was inpolite to watch, so it would be ignored.... but they had no taboos about it so no one got all offended or over stimulated by it.. homosexuals were considered holy men/women because they had one foot in each world...they were considered closer to the creator than those divided by gender.. Their gifts of extra creativity were seen as being given by G-d...talk about a 180 degree change in point of view... this western culture that were in is so messed up in so many ways...its really sad... anna On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: > One limitation in any conversation such as this arises from taboos ... has > there been a society without sexual taboos? We humans don't respond to " no " > very well. Perhaps if we were to start over, with no taboos, then all this > would go away. > > I do know, from personal experience, that very few Jewish children become > alcoholics. Why? Because, at least historically (though changing now), > Jewish kids drank a little wine on Sabbaths, Passover, etc. > > The absence of taboo means the absence of " titillation " , of overexcitement. > > Just a thought ...Elchanan > > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Anna Bishop > Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:45 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie > > > i agree....they build in the titillation for no good reason..except > mayb to upset the family..but thats another much bigger subject...not > raw food related.we can see this in the obsession with breasts > here......totally not like that in europe, africa or south > america....it does increase porn sales though..ie. Magazines, internet > sites, movies, etc... > > again...artificially creating the need then providing the cure.. > > its EVERYWHERE here....most americans are oblivious....but i digress.... > > so how bout the watermelons this season? Pretty sweet huh? > > anna > > On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@pathofheal > <Elchanan%40pathofhealth.org> th.org> wrote: > > Using our species' history as a guide, it appears to be entirely > culturally > > directed. And the more taboos, the more " misbehaviors " . > > Elchanan > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId > =31808/stime=1182714322/nc1=3848446/nc2=4025338/nc3=4659943> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 oh..and theyd get married when they wanted and would separate when they wanted..theyd just tell their mates they wanted to....no big dramas.....but such " divorces " were relatively uncommon... if it hurt them, theyd buck up and deal with it...it was not acceptable to be an overattached possessive weakling...holding someone back could be said to be their taboo.... a On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: > One limitation in any conversation such as this arises from taboos ... has > there been a society without sexual taboos? We humans don't respond to " no " > very well. Perhaps if we were to start over, with no taboos, then all this > would go away. > > I do know, from personal experience, that very few Jewish children become > alcoholics. Why? Because, at least historically (though changing now), > Jewish kids drank a little wine on Sabbaths, Passover, etc. > > The absence of taboo means the absence of " titillation " , of overexcitement. > > Just a thought ...Elchanan > > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Anna Bishop > Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:45 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie > > > i agree....they build in the titillation for no good reason..except > mayb to upset the family..but thats another much bigger subject...not > raw food related.we can see this in the obsession with breasts > here......totally not like that in europe, africa or south > america....it does increase porn sales though..ie. Magazines, internet > sites, movies, etc... > > again...artificially creating the need then providing the cure.. > > its EVERYWHERE here....most americans are oblivious....but i digress.... > > so how bout the watermelons this season? Pretty sweet huh? > > anna > > On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@pathofheal > <Elchanan%40pathofhealth.org> th.org> wrote: > > Using our species' history as a guide, it appears to be entirely > culturally > > directed. And the more taboos, the more " misbehaviors " . > > Elchanan > <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId > =31808/stime=1182714322/nc1=3848446/nc2=4025338/nc3=4659943> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 I personally would not be able to handle it if my husband even so much as mentioned that he wanted to be with someone else. That being said, I have been in the situation where it has been a conscious decision not to act on attraction. ______________________________\ ____ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos./carfinder/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 and thats a fair and honest position. most people think just like you..and that should be respected...im certain youd rather be told FIRST that he wanted another person than after he does it and you find out some other way...thats horrid. youre gonna hurt either way..but if you hear it first you can keep the respect for him...this keeps doors open for future intereaction. ive had veeeery open relationships..and i have more respect for them than " loyal " ones that probably (you never really know) cheated but said not... just my 2 cents.. anna On 6/24/07, Kerri Myers <twinkles457 wrote: > I personally would not be able to handle it if my > husband even so much as mentioned that he wanted to be > with someone else. > > That being said, I have been in the situation where it > has been a conscious decision not to act on > attraction. > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car > Finder tool. > http://autos./carfinder/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 At Sun, 24 Jun 2007 it looks like Elchanan composed: > One limitation in any conversation such as this arises from taboos ... has > there been a society without sexual taboos? We humans don't respond to " no " > very well. Perhaps if we were to start over, with no taboos, then all this > would go away. > > I do know, from personal experience, that very few Jewish children become > alcoholics. Why? Because, at least historically (though changing now), > Jewish kids drank a little wine on Sabbaths, Passover, etc. > > The absence of taboo means the absence of " titillation " , of overexcitement. > > Just a thought ...Elchanan > Hmm, my mom was from Ireland and I wonder what " zigged " instead of " zagged " in my story! (giggle) Been 18+ years of not having to try and be " Irish " (burp) anymore! -- " Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. " -- Redd Foxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 good point. Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: One limitation in any conversation such as this arises from taboos ... has there been a society without sexual taboos? We humans don't respond to " no " very well. Perhaps if we were to start over, with no taboos, then all this would go away. I do know, from personal experience, that very few Jewish children become alcoholics. Why? Because, at least historically (though changing now), Jewish kids drank a little wine on Sabbaths, Passover, etc. The absence of taboo means the absence of " titillation " , of overexcitement. Just a thought ...Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:45 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: Blue blankie i agree....they build in the titillation for no good reason..except mayb to upset the family..but thats another much bigger subject...not raw food related.we can see this in the obsession with breasts here......totally not like that in europe, africa or south america....it does increase porn sales though..ie. Magazines, internet sites, movies, etc... again...artificially creating the need then providing the cure.. its EVERYWHERE here....most americans are oblivious....but i digress.... so how bout the watermelons this season? Pretty sweet huh? anna On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@pathofheal <Elchanan%40pathofhealth.org> th.org> wrote: > Using our species' history as a guide, it appears to be entirely culturally > directed. And the more taboos, the more " misbehaviors " . > Elchanan <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId =31808/stime=1182714322/nc1=3848446/nc2=4025338/nc3=4659943> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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