Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Hi Anna, Just for clarity, I'm coming from a somewhat different place than you may be. It is not my intention to say that killing is " wrong " , but rather that our species fares poorly when we choose to incorporate any manner of killing into our chosen lifestyle. In other words, I'm suggesting that we choose to refrain from conscious killing of all life forms simply as way to improve our own quality of life, out of self-interest. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:52 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Killing is killing ... (WAS: Garlic Redux) killing is wrong. we are damaged every time we do it..even in self defense. why it continues so chronically is beyond me except to say the ego is a very powerful thing...it acts before our subconcious can process the result. very sad.. anna On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: And perhaps some people are determined to hold onto, at almost any cost, a way of thinking, a belief system, wherein we humans decide, " Yes, we'll kill this, and no, we'll let that live. " Our track record as a species is not so great in this regard ... I once asked several historians whether they could name a single time in human history when armies were not marching, people were not being put to death for their beliefs, and so forth. So far, not one historian has been able to point to a single day in human history when peace occurred. We must let go of ALL our killing, large and small. And we need it not, if we will live healthfully. That you have something to kill simply implies that you have damaged yourself, diminished your own vital capacity. Or, you can go on killing and explaining why it's a great idea. Best, Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 thats fine. I said it was wrong. Not you. i maintain that position. a On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: > Hi Anna, > > Just for clarity, I'm coming from a somewhat different place than you may > be. It is not my intention to say that killing is " wrong " , but rather that > our species fares poorly when we choose to incorporate any manner of killing > into our chosen lifestyle. In other words, I'm suggesting that we choose to > refrain from conscious killing of all life forms simply as way to improve > our own quality of life, out of self-interest. > > Best, > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Anna Bishop > Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:52 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Killing is killing ... (WAS: Garlic Redux) > > > killing is wrong. > > we are damaged every time we do it..even in self defense. > > why it continues so chronically is beyond me except to say the ego is a very > powerful thing...it acts before our subconcious can process the result. > > very sad.. > > anna > > On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: And perhaps some > people are determined to hold onto, at almost any cost, a way of thinking, a > belief system, wherein we humans decide, " Yes, we'll kill this, and no, > we'll let that live. " > > Our track record as a species is not so great in this regard ... I once > asked several historians whether they could name a single time in human > history when armies were not marching, people were not being put to death > for their beliefs, and so forth. So far, not one historian has been able to > point to a single day in human history when peace occurred. > > We must let go of ALL our killing, large and small. And we need it not, if > we will live healthfully. That you have something to kill simply implies > that you have damaged yourself, diminished your own vital capacity. > > Or, you can go on killing and explaining why it's a great idea. > > Best, Elchanan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Yes, Anna. I am encouraging you and others to move away from the violence in your perception and communication, to move away from the language of judgment and the beliefs and thoughts behind that language. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Anna Bishop Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:22 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] illing is killing ... MORE (WAS: Garlic Redux) thats fine. I said it was wrong. Not you. i maintain that position. a On 6/24/07, Elchanan <Elchanan@pathofheal <Elchanan%40pathofhealth.org> th.org> wrote: > Hi Anna, > > Just for clarity, I'm coming from a somewhat different place than you may > be. It is not my intention to say that killing is " wrong " , but rather that > our species fares poorly when we choose to incorporate any manner of killing > into our chosen lifestyle. In other words, I'm suggesting that we choose to > refrain from conscious killing of all life forms simply as way to improve > our own quality of life, out of self-interest. > > Best, > Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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