Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Hi Lynda, I have fed my dogs a raw diet for several years. (though not currently doing so on a regular basis, due to time) It is the best way to feed, though not for everyone. Some folks just can't stomach it. There is tons of info and message boards out there and I highly recomend conversing with folks that are feeding this way. A couple of books that I have that are great is Give your Dog A Bone by Ian Billinghurst. He has a couple of more books out that I don't have, but I am sure they are good. The other that I have that I really like is Natural Nutrition for Dogs And Cats, by Kymythy R. Schults. This is very simply put. (I like simple) If you do a search for BARF (Bones And Raw Foods) you will get a lot of websites to visit. Another is to search Dogs Raw Foods or Raw Feeding, etc. This is not brain science to feed this way, but like with our own diet, we have been conditioned away from what is natural and healthy for our bodies. Dogs and cats are no different. Feed them a species appropriate natural diet, and you will be amazed at the health benefits. For the record, I have never had much luck with feeding raw to my cats. And I don't have the patience to fool with them over it. Besides, my cat lives outdoors (we live in a rural area) and she can catch her own food if she wants something raw. And she often does just that. I know because she leaves what she doesn't eat, where I am sure to see it. Anyway, just study up on what the idea of feeding like this is and enjoy watching your dogs enjoy their meals and the health that comes from it. Read up and be sure and get on some message boards for support and help. The first time I gave my dog raw chicken with bones, I sat and watched them for the longest thinking they would choke and die right before my eyes. LOL. It didn't occur to me that wild canines eat like this all their lives and survive. Belinda rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote: > > this is such a good group of thinkers that I would like your > collective opinion on raw for pets. I can gage my own response to my > own diet and the more I pay attention the more I prefer raw. and > since the discussion re garlic, I am paying attention to that too. > and have reduced my intake and am finding it is too hot for me. this > is new. but with pets, when I try to go raw they get upset even > though they love it. vomit and , cough cough, the other food > rejection method. and the cats ignore raw food. so any ideas where I > can get more info? a good ?? thanks. And I very much > enjoy this group. thanks. > take care, > lynda > > > > > > > nn---------------h > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2007 Report Share Posted June 25, 2007 Lynda, I have had all kinds of animals over my lifetime. Cats, dogs, fish, tortoise, turtles, birds, rabbits & guinea pigs. LOL I am a real animal person. Just about everyone of my animals have been mostly raw. They all pretty much ate what I ate ('cept the fishLOL). I do remember a vet once telling me that she didn't recommend me feeding them like that. She stated that I am depriving them of the needed nutrients they need. Apparently she felt that the commercial foods are balanced with the right amount of all the vitamins, minerals and enzymes that they need to thrive. Since she made me feel like a " bad parent " I started buying their top brand of food. Currently I have a dog, 2 turtles (res) and one parrot. They all eat from what we eat, however, they do have their own commercially prepared food also (for when I don't have the time). My African Grey, loves most fruits, but will not eat greens. She throws them on the floor or just turns her nose up at them. My turtles, love greens, not crazy about all fruits. My dog, loves most fruits, crazy about bananas, grapes, apples.....she will not touch greens. I had two cats, one lived to 22 years old and the other one lived to 19. They were raised on what I ate. I was on sad at that time. I think because animals can't communicate,unless you keep close tabs on their health, it might be best to stick to commercial animal foods. Although with the advent of animal food contamination, it might be wise to learn how to make your own home made animal foods. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Belinda <MistyBlueTN rawfood Monday, June 25, 2007 2:35:14 PM [Raw Food] Re: raw for pets Hi Lynda, I have fed my dogs a raw diet for several years. (though not currently doing so on a regular basis, due to time) It is the best way to feed, though not for everyone. Some folks just can't stomach it. There is tons of info and message boards out there and I highly recomend conversing with folks that are feeding this way. A couple of books that I have that are great is Give your Dog A Bone by Ian Billinghurst. He has a couple of more books out that I don't have, but I am sure they are good. The other that I have that I really like is Natural Nutrition for Dogs And Cats, by Kymythy R. Schults. This is very simply put. (I like simple) If you do a search for BARF (Bones And Raw Foods) you will get a lot of websites to visit. Another is to search Dogs Raw Foods or Raw Feeding, etc. This is not brain science to feed this way, but like with our own diet, we have been conditioned away from what is natural and healthy for our bodies. Dogs and cats are no different. Feed them a species appropriate natural diet, and you will be amazed at the health benefits. For the record, I have never had much luck with feeding raw to my cats. And I don't have the patience to fool with them over it. Besides, my cat lives outdoors (we live in a rural area) and she can catch her own food if she wants something raw. And she often does just that. I know because she leaves what she doesn't eat, where I am sure to see it. Anyway, just study up on what the idea of feeding like this is and enjoy watching your dogs enjoy their meals and the health that comes from it. Read up and be sure and get on some message boards for support and help. The first time I gave my dog raw chicken with bones, I sat and watched them for the longest thinking they would choke and die right before my eyes. LOL. It didn't occur to me that wild canines eat like this all their lives and survive. Belinda rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote: > > this is such a good group of thinkers that I would like your > collective opinion on raw for pets. I can gage my own response to my > own diet and the more I pay attention the more I prefer raw. and > since the discussion re garlic, I am paying attention to that too. > and have reduced my intake and am finding it is too hot for me. this > is new. but with pets, when I try to go raw they get upset even > though they love it. vomit and , cough cough, the other food > rejection method. and the cats ignore raw food. so any ideas where I > can get more info? a good ?? thanks. And I very much > enjoy this group. thanks. > take care, > lynda > > > > > > > nn---------------h > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 has a ton of raw pet groups! To browse the gamut, go to / and type, say, " raw pets " into the search field. -Erin http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Hi Jeannieh I read this about the animal food industry. http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/petfood2.html neal. On Monday 25 June 2007 21:35, jeannieh h wrote: > Lynda, > > I have had all kinds of animals over my lifetime. Cats, dogs, fish, > tortoise, turtles, birds, rabbits & guinea pigs. LOL I am a real animal > person. > > Just about everyone of my animals have been mostly raw. They all pretty > much ate what I ate ('cept the fishLOL). I do remember a vet once telling > me that she didn't recommend me feeding them like that. She stated that I > am depriving them of the needed nutrients they need. Apparently she felt > that the commercial foods are balanced with the right amount of all the > vitamins, minerals and enzymes that they need to thrive. Since she made me > feel like a " bad parent " I started buying their top brand of food. > > Currently I have a dog, 2 turtles (res) and one parrot. They all eat from > what we eat, however, they do have their own commercially prepared food > also (for when I don't have the time). > > My African Grey, loves most fruits, but will not eat greens. She throws > them on the floor or just turns her nose up at them. My turtles, love > greens, not crazy about all fruits. > My dog, loves most fruits, crazy about bananas, grapes, apples.....she will > not touch greens. > > > I had two cats, one lived to 22 years old and the other one lived to 19. > They were raised on what I ate. I was on sad at that time. > > > I think because animals can't communicate,unless you keep close tabs on > their health, it might be best to stick to commercial animal foods. > Although with the advent of animal food contamination, it might be wise to > learn how to make your own home made animal foods. > > > Jeannie > > > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no > one. > > > > > Belinda <MistyBlueTN > rawfood > Monday, June 25, 2007 2:35:14 PM > [Raw Food] Re: raw for pets > > > Hi Lynda, > I have fed my dogs a raw diet for several years. (though not > currently doing so on a regular basis, due to time) > It is the best way to feed, though not for everyone. Some folks just > can't stomach it. > > There is tons of info and message boards out there and I highly > recomend conversing with folks that are feeding this way. > > A couple of books that I have that are great is Give your Dog A Bone > by Ian Billinghurst. He has a couple of more books out that I don't > have, but I am sure they are good. > > The other that I have that I really like is Natural Nutrition for > Dogs And Cats, by Kymythy R. Schults. This is very simply put. (I > like simple) > > If you do a search for BARF (Bones And Raw Foods) you will get a lot > of websites to visit. Another is to search Dogs Raw Foods or Raw > Feeding, etc. > This is not brain science to feed this way, but like with our own > diet, we have been conditioned away from what is natural and healthy > for our bodies. Dogs and cats are no different. Feed them a species > appropriate natural diet, and you will be amazed at the health > benefits. > > For the record, I have never had much luck with feeding raw to my > cats. And I don't have the patience to fool with them over it. > Besides, my cat lives outdoors (we live in a rural area) and she can > catch her own food if she wants something raw. And she often does > just that. I know because she leaves what she doesn't eat, where I > am sure to see it. > > Anyway, just study up on what the idea of feeding like this is and > enjoy watching your dogs enjoy their meals and the health that comes > from it. Read up and be sure and get on some message boards for > support and help. The first time I gave my dog raw chicken with > bones, I sat and watched them for the longest thinking they would > choke and die right before my eyes. LOL. It didn't occur to me that > wild canines eat like this all their lives and survive. > > Belinda > > rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote: > > this is such a good group of thinkers that I would like your > > collective opinion on raw for pets. I can gage my own response to > > my > > > own diet and the more I pay attention the more I prefer raw. and > > since the discussion re garlic, I am paying attention to that too. > > and have reduced my intake and am finding it is too hot for me. > > this > > > is new. but with pets, when I try to go raw they get upset even > > though they love it. vomit and , cough cough, the other food > > rejection method. and the cats ignore raw food. so any ideas > > where I > > > can get more info? a good ?? thanks. And I very much > > enjoy this group. thanks. > > take care, > > lynda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nn---------------h > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Hi Lynda, I've been feeding my pets raw meaty bones for the better part of a year and their health has improved. You can go to http://www.rawmeatybones.com/ and read a free ebook about this topic in great detail. And, you can go to the http://health.Rawschool/ and look in the archives for posts about feeding pets raw. There are groups specifically for pets eating raw/rmb, but I suggest starting with a foundation by perusing the links I mentioned. Janet rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote: this is such a good group of thinkers that I would like your collective opinion on raw for pets. I can gage my own response to my own diet and the more I pay attention the more I prefer raw. and since the discussion re garlic, I am paying attention to that too. and have reduced my intake and am finding it is too hot for me. this is new. but with pets, when I try to go raw they get upset even though they love it. vomit and , cough cough, the other food rejection method. and the cats ignore raw food. so any ideas where I can get more info? a good ?? thanks. And I very much enjoy this group. thanks. take care, lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Hi Jeannie, When I fed my pets commercial kibble, I was astounded by the long list of ingredients in a package. Just incredible. And, I worked in a dog food factory for some time and knew something wasn't right in the world. Chewing meat and bones is integral to a dog's health (cat's too), and it should be noted that 75% of dogs have periodontal dis-ease by age three. Kibble will create a film around their teeth and harbor an environment that is ripe for bacteria, so it's not surprising where this statistic comes from. And, if a dog's teeth aren't healthy, the body isn't either. Cats and dogs must go through a transition to raw, just like humans. Mine weren't so happy the first few times. I had luck searing some meat before giving it to my cat (now deceased at age 18). I do the same for my dogs when I feed them livers. It really smells up the house, though! Both of my dogs had periodontal dis-ease, one to a great extent. Since feeding rmb, the black plaque that formed on the back teeth is either all gone, or almost gone. Their coats are softer, eyes are brighter, energy is back, and they seem to attract less fleas. However, due to vaccinations (I believe), one of my dogs has recurring problems with her skin. I have stopped vaccinating, but the problems from years past still exist. I believe her body is trying to eliminate the very real toxins. For this reason I have fasted them twice, now. After witnessing how happy they are munching down on rmb, I can never look back. Janet rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: Lynda, I have had all kinds of animals over my lifetime. Cats, dogs, fish, tortoise, turtles, birds, rabbits & guinea pigs. LOL I am a real animal person. Just about everyone of my animals have been mostly raw. They all pretty much ate what I ate ('cept the fishLOL). I do remember a vet once telling me that she didn't recommend me feeding them like that. She stated that I am depriving them of the needed nutrients they need. Apparently she felt that the commercial foods are balanced with the right amount of all the vitamins, minerals and enzymes that they need to thrive. Since she made me feel like a " bad parent " I started buying their top brand of food. Currently I have a dog, 2 turtles (res) and one parrot. They all eat from what we eat, however, they do have their own commercially prepared food also (for when I don't have the time). My African Grey, loves most fruits, but will not eat greens. She throws them on the floor or just turns her nose up at them. My turtles, love greens, not crazy about all fruits. My dog, loves most fruits, crazy about bananas, grapes, apples.....she will not touch greens. I had two cats, one lived to 22 years old and the other one lived to 19. They were raised on what I ate. I was on sad at that time. I think because animals can't communicate,unless you keep close tabs on their health, it might be best to stick to commercial animal foods. Although with the advent of animal food contamination, it might be wise to learn how to make your own home made animal foods. Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Belinda <MistyBlueTN To: rawfood Monday, June 25, 2007 2:35:14 PM [Raw Food] Re: raw for pets Hi Lynda, I have fed my dogs a raw diet for several years. (though not currently doing so on a regular basis, due to time) It is the best way to feed, though not for everyone. Some folks just can't stomach it. There is tons of info and message boards out there and I highly recomend conversing with folks that are feeding this way. A couple of books that I have that are great is Give your Dog A Bone by Ian Billinghurst. He has a couple of more books out that I don't have, but I am sure they are good. The other that I have that I really like is Natural Nutrition for Dogs And Cats, by Kymythy R. Schults. This is very simply put. (I like simple) If you do a search for BARF (Bones And Raw Foods) you will get a lot of websites to visit. Another is to search Dogs Raw Foods or Raw Feeding, etc. This is not brain science to feed this way, but like with our own diet, we have been conditioned away from what is natural and healthy for our bodies. Dogs and cats are no different. Feed them a species appropriate natural diet, and you will be amazed at the health benefits. For the record, I have never had much luck with feeding raw to my cats. And I don't have the patience to fool with them over it. Besides, my cat lives outdoors (we live in a rural area) and she can catch her own food if she wants something raw. And she often does just that. I know because she leaves what she doesn't eat, where I am sure to see it. Anyway, just study up on what the idea of feeding like this is and enjoy watching your dogs enjoy their meals and the health that comes from it. Read up and be sure and get on some message boards for support and help. The first time I gave my dog raw chicken with bones, I sat and watched them for the longest thinking they would choke and die right before my eyes. LOL. It didn't occur to me that wild canines eat like this all their lives and survive. Belinda rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken@> wrote: this is such a good group of thinkers that I would like your collective opinion on raw for pets. I can gage my own response to my own diet and the more I pay attention the more I prefer raw. and since the discussion re garlic, I am paying attention to that too. and have reduced my intake and am finding it is too hot for me. this is new. but with pets, when I try to go raw they get upset even though they love it. vomit and , cough cough, the other food rejection method. and the cats ignore raw food. so any ideas where I can get more info? a good ?? thanks. And I very much enjoy this group. thanks. take care, lynda nn---------------h Groups Links ______________________________\ ____ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Hi Lynda, I've been feeding my dog raw for over 5 yrs.--we've gone through a few variations, and what has ended up making the most to me is the prey model type (simulating whole prey as best one can). It's very simple and seems most natural. A great site for the why's of rawfeeding is this one: http://rawfed.com/myths/ And for the how-to's, there are over 9000 experienced rawfeeders here: http://pets.rawfeeding/. There's also a sister list, Rawcat. Laurie rawfood , " lhmcmaken " <lhmcmaken wrote: > > this is such a good group of thinkers that I would like your > collective opinion on raw for pets. I can gage my own response to my > own diet and the more I pay attention the more I prefer raw. and > since the discussion re garlic, I am paying attention to that too. > and have reduced my intake and am finding it is too hot for me. this > is new. but with pets, when I try to go raw they get upset even > though they love it. vomit and , cough cough, the other food > rejection method. and the cats ignore raw food. so any ideas where I > can get more info? a good ?? thanks. And I very much > enjoy this group. thanks. > take care, > lynda > > > > > > > nn---------------h > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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