Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 For those that follow the 80-10-10 way of eating, do you supplement your diet with vitamins and minerals? Do any of the rest of the raw feeders supplement with vitamins and minerals? Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Belinda.... Speaking from personal experience.. I've been on the 80-10-10 diet for almost 6 months. I use to take iron and B-12 shots for anemia. Since my new lifestyle of eating, I have stopped both the iron and B-12 and feel better than I have ever felt in years. Janie rawfood , " Belinda " <MistyBlueTN wrote: > > For those that follow the 80-10-10 way of eating, do you supplement > your diet with vitamins and minerals? Do any of the rest of the raw > feeders supplement with vitamins and minerals? > > > Belinda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 - Belinda >For those that follow the 80-10-10 way of eating, do you supplement your diet with vitamins and minerals? Do any of the rest of the raw feeders supplement with vitamins and minerals? I supplemented with vitamins years ago, and it got really old really fast. They tasted horrible, and I had no way of telling what was in them. My opinion is, if I can't get what I need from my food, then I'm eating wrong. Anything made in a lab is NEVER going to be as good as what grows naturally. I've always held this view, not just since going raw - I'd expect to have a perfect lineup of vitamins and minerals eating raw. It's known even by the mainstream community that cooking destroys or at least reduces, the content of vitamins in foods. Caron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 i will occassionally, cuz i dont eat much and sometimes i feel weak... altho i could probably just eat more and clear up both issues...still, i dont like to force feed myself, if im not hungry, i dont like to eat.. and im not always that hungry.... anna On 6/28/07, Caron <carongroups wrote: > > > - > Belinda > >For those that follow the 80-10-10 way of eating, do you supplement > your diet with vitamins and minerals? Do any of the rest of the raw > feeders supplement with vitamins and minerals? > > I supplemented with vitamins years ago, and it got really old really fast. > They tasted horrible, and I had no way of telling what was in them. My > opinion is, if I can't get what I need from my food, then I'm eating > wrong. > Anything made in a lab is NEVER going to be as good as what grows > naturally. > I've always held this view, not just since going raw - I'd expect to have > a > perfect lineup of vitamins and minerals eating raw. It's known even by the > mainstream community that cooking destroys or at least reduces, the > content > of vitamins in foods. > > Caron > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 This is how I feel too. The thing is, since eating so much raw fruits and veggies and very little meat and other types of cooked veggies, I have had to go back to supplementing some things. Particularly iron and B12. For a long time I have been feeling run down, no energy, cold, etc. and a weird and uncomfortable feeling along my spine. Uncomfortable enough that I couldn't relax or sleep sometimes. I thought for a long time it was muscle tension, but nothing I did seem to do away with it. After investigating my symptoms, I was reminded that it was highly possible that I was enemic. I have been in the past. That would explain the tiredness. And then I started reading about B12 defeciancey and nerve problems because of it. So I went and got some iron and sublinquel B12. Once I began taking these, I began to feel much better and the weird feeling in my spine stopped. Last week, I went about 3 or 4 days in a row, without taking the supplements, and symptoms returned. Sooooo, until I can figure myself out, I will continue the supplements. Oh, I also take calcium too. But not the large doses that is recomended for women my age. And I don't take it everyday. because I don't even know if I need it or not. Apparantly I have not quite hit on the right balance of nutrients in my diet yet. Belinda > - > Belinda > >For those that follow the 80-10-10 way of eating, do you supplement > your diet with vitamins and minerals? Do any of the rest of the raw > feeders supplement with vitamins and minerals? > > I supplemented with vitamins years ago, and it got really old really fast. > They tasted horrible, and I had no way of telling what was in them. My > opinion is, if I can't get what I need from my food, then I'm eating wrong. > Anything made in a lab is NEVER going to be as good as what grows naturally. > I've always held this view, not just since going raw - I'd expect to have a > perfect lineup of vitamins and minerals eating raw. It's known even by the > mainstream community that cooking destroys or at least reduces, the content > of vitamins in foods. > > Caron > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Really? I need to study more about this and maybe give it a try. I would rather try it now why the fruits and veggies are in season. They staste so much better and I have a bigger variety to choosr from. In the past when I went raw, I didn't do so well, but this time is different. Since being on this board I have learned to eat a lot of fruit. In the past, I thought eating a lot of fruit would be too much sugar. But I feel much better eating a lot of fruit. And best of all, I like it. It also stops my cravings for sweet desserts. I has even curbed my desire for chocolate. Imagine that, being the " chocoholic " that I am. I mean serious chocoholic too. Oh, I also still dring a little coffee, (mostly decaf) in the mornings. I guess I need to stop that too. Belinda > Belinda.... > Speaking from personal experience.. I've been on the 80-10-10 diet for > almost 6 months. I use to take iron and B-12 shots for anemia. Since > my new lifestyle of eating, I have stopped both the iron and B-12 and > feel better than I have ever felt in years. > Janie > > rawfood , " Belinda " <MistyBlueTN@> wrote: > > > > For those that follow the 80-10-10 way of eating, do you supplement > > your diet with vitamins and minerals? Do any of the rest of the raw > > feeders supplement with vitamins and minerals? > > > > > > Belinda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 No Belinda, this is a misinterpretation, arising from misunderstanding, half-hearted commitment, and impatience. You are not doing any particular program, but rather a hodge-podge consisting partially of foods you know are healthful and partially of foods you aren't ready to give up. And whatever symptoms you are experiencing flow naturally from these choices. The more you drug yourself, the longer your journey into health will be ... if you ever really get there, at all. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Belinda Friday, June 29, 2007 2:51 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] 80-10-10 diet This is how I feel too. The thing is, since eating so much raw fruits and veggies and very little meat and other types of cooked veggies, I have had to go back to supplementing some things. Particularly iron and B12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Nope, I am not " misunderstanding " anything. Nor am I commited to anything yet,not even partially (as far as my diet is concerned). And what am I misinterpreting? I am perfectly aware that I am not on any particular program. (I have not decided on my health, diet, food guru leader yet:o)) I also don't jump on paths to anywhere without first looking toward where I am going and most importantly looking back down the path to see what is left in it's wake, as well spending time observing those on the path and what their results are. Though I respect many and learn from just as many, I follow no mortal human being nor do I follow the herd. (though there is one " herd " that I travel with) Just because someone seems to have it all together and has all the answers, does not meant that they do. Yes, you are correct, I do eat hodge-podge style. And will continue to do so until I see what it is that I need to do. All that I do with my diet right now is very intentional on my part. And I am doing nothing concerning my health half-heartedly, you can be sure. But thanks anyway. Belinda > No Belinda, this is a misinterpretation, arising from misunderstanding, > half-hearted commitment, and impatience. > > You are not doing any particular program, but rather a hodge-podge > consisting partially of foods you know are healthful and partially of foods > you aren't ready to give up. And whatever symptoms you are experiencing flow > naturally from these choices. The more you drug yourself, the longer your > journey into health will be ... if you ever really get there, at all. > > Best, > Elchanan > > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Belinda > Friday, June 29, 2007 2:51 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] 80-10-10 diet > > > This is how I feel too. > The thing is, since eating so much raw fruits and veggies and very > little meat and other types of cooked veggies, I have had to go back > to supplementing some things. Particularly iron and B12. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 That's what I was most concerned about on this diet - B-12 and iron! I was wondering how much of the greens are required to get enough B-12! I'm not SURE that I'm eating enough greens to get the required amount. I am eating about a 1/2 head of romaine or red leaf lettuce each day. I usually eat one rather large salad a day at dinner time. Also, I was wondering if spinach has more iron and B-12 than other greens such as green leaf lettuce, red leaf lettuce, romaine, etc. Thanks for any advice about this. At the present time, I am not taking any supplements at all! Thanks, LYnne > > This is how I feel too. > The thing is, since eating so much raw fruits and veggies and very > little meat and other types of cooked veggies, I have had to go back > to supplementing some things. Particularly iron and B12. For a long > time I have been feeling run down, no energy, cold, etc. and a weird > and uncomfortable feeling along my spine. Uncomfortable enough that > I couldn't relax or sleep sometimes. I thought for a long time it > was muscle tension, but nothing I did seem to do away with it. > After investigating my symptoms, I was reminded that it was highly > possible that I was enemic. I have been in the past. That would > explain the tiredness. > > And then I started reading about B12 defeciancey and nerve problems > because of it. So I went and got some iron and sublinquel B12. > > Once I began taking these, I began to feel much better and the weird > feeling in my spine stopped. > Last week, I went about 3 or 4 days in a row, without taking the > supplements, and symptoms returned. > > Sooooo, until I can figure myself out, I will continue the > supplements. Oh, I also take calcium too. But not the large doses > that is recomended for women my age. And I don't take it everyday. > because I don't even know if I need it or not. > > Apparantly I have not quite hit on the right balance of nutrients in > my diet yet. > > Belinda > > > - > > Belinda > > >For those that follow the 80-10-10 way of eating, do you supplement > > your diet with vitamins and minerals? Do any of the rest of the raw > > feeders supplement with vitamins and minerals? > > > > I supplemented with vitamins years ago, and it got really old > really fast. > > They tasted horrible, and I had no way of telling what was in them. > My > > opinion is, if I can't get what I need from my food, then I'm > eating wrong. > > Anything made in a lab is NEVER going to be as good as what grows > naturally. > > I've always held this view, not just since going raw - I'd expect > to have a > > perfect lineup of vitamins and minerals eating raw. It's known even > by the > > mainstream community that cooking destroys or at least reduces, the > content > > of vitamins in foods. > > > > Caron > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 B12 is only found in animal sources. It is not found in vegetables. Belinda > That's what I was most concerned about on this diet - B-12 and iron! > I was wondering how much of the greens are required to get enough > B-12! I'm not SURE that I'm eating enough greens to get the required > amount. I am eating about a 1/2 head of romaine or red leaf lettuce > each day. I usually eat one rather large salad a day at dinner time. > Also, I was wondering if spinach has more iron and B-12 than > other greens such as green leaf lettuce, red leaf lettuce, romaine, etc. > Thanks for any advice about this. At the present time, I am > not taking any supplements at all! > Thanks, LYnne > > > > This is how I feel too. > > The thing is, since eating so much raw fruits and veggies and very > > little meat and other types of cooked veggies, I have had to go back > > to supplementing some things. Particularly iron and B12. For a long > > time I have been feeling run down, no energy, cold, etc. and a weird > > and uncomfortable feeling along my spine. Uncomfortable enough that > > I couldn't relax or sleep sometimes. I thought for a long time it > > was muscle tension, but nothing I did seem to do away with it. > > After investigating my symptoms, I was reminded that it was highly > > possible that I was enemic. I have been in the past. That would > > explain the tiredness. > > > > And then I started reading about B12 defeciancey and nerve problems > > because of it. So I went and got some iron and sublinquel B12. > > > > Once I began taking these, I began to feel much better and the weird > > feeling in my spine stopped. > > Last week, I went about 3 or 4 days in a row, without taking the > > supplements, and symptoms returned. > > > > Sooooo, until I can figure myself out, I will continue the > > supplements. Oh, I also take calcium too. But not the large doses > > that is recomended for women my age. And I don't take it everyday. > > because I don't even know if I need it or not. > > > > Apparantly I have not quite hit on the right balance of nutrients in > > my diet yet. > > > > Belinda > > > > > - > > > Belinda > > > >For those that follow the 80-10-10 way of eating, do you supplement > > > your diet with vitamins and minerals? Do any of the rest of the raw > > > feeders supplement with vitamins and minerals? > > > > > > I supplemented with vitamins years ago, and it got really old > > really fast. > > > They tasted horrible, and I had no way of telling what was in them. > > My > > > opinion is, if I can't get what I need from my food, then I'm > > eating wrong. > > > Anything made in a lab is NEVER going to be as good as what grows > > naturally. > > > I've always held this view, not just since going raw - I'd expect > > to have a > > > perfect lineup of vitamins and minerals eating raw. It's known even > > by the > > > mainstream community that cooking destroys or at least reduces, the > > content > > > of vitamins in foods. > > > > > > Caron > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Hi Belinda, That's what I used to think, but how do people following the 80 10 10 diet get enough B-12? If you follow it strictly, the book says that you DON'T NEED any supplements. So I'm confused. We NEED B-12, right? Lynne > > B12 is only found in animal sources. It is not found in vegetables. > > Belinda > > > That's what I was most concerned about on this diet - B-12 and iron! > > I was wondering how much of the greens are required to get > enough > > B-12! I'm not SURE that I'm eating enough greens to get the > required > > amount. I am eating about a 1/2 head of romaine or red leaf > lettuce > > each day. I usually eat one rather large salad a day at dinner > time. > > Also, I was wondering if spinach has more iron and B-12 > than > > other greens such as green leaf lettuce, red leaf lettuce, romaine, > etc. > > Thanks for any advice about this. At the present time, I > am > > not taking any supplements at all! > > Thanks, LYnne > > > > > > This is how I feel too. > > > The thing is, since eating so much raw fruits and veggies and very > > > little meat and other types of cooked veggies, I have had to go > back > > > to supplementing some things. Particularly iron and B12. For a > long > > > time I have been feeling run down, no energy, cold, etc. and a > weird > > > and uncomfortable feeling along my spine. Uncomfortable enough > that > > > I couldn't relax or sleep sometimes. I thought for a long time it > > > was muscle tension, but nothing I did seem to do away with it. > > > After investigating my symptoms, I was reminded that it was highly > > > possible that I was enemic. I have been in the past. That would > > > explain the tiredness. > > > > > > And then I started reading about B12 defeciancey and nerve > problems > > > because of it. So I went and got some iron and sublinquel B12. > > > > > > Once I began taking these, I began to feel much better and the > weird > > > feeling in my spine stopped. > > > Last week, I went about 3 or 4 days in a row, without taking the > > > supplements, and symptoms returned. > > > > > > Sooooo, until I can figure myself out, I will continue the > > > supplements. Oh, I also take calcium too. But not the large doses > > > that is recomended for women my age. And I don't take it everyday. > > > because I don't even know if I need it or not. > > > > > > Apparantly I have not quite hit on the right balance of nutrients > in > > > my diet yet. > > > > > > Belinda > > > > > > > - > > > > Belinda > > > > >For those that follow the 80-10-10 way of eating, do you > supplement > > > > your diet with vitamins and minerals? Do any of the rest of the > raw > > > > feeders supplement with vitamins and minerals? > > > > > > > > I supplemented with vitamins years ago, and it got really old > > > really fast. > > > > They tasted horrible, and I had no way of telling what was in > them. > > > My > > > > opinion is, if I can't get what I need from my food, then I'm > > > eating wrong. > > > > Anything made in a lab is NEVER going to be as good as what > grows > > > naturally. > > > > I've always held this view, not just since going raw - I'd > expect > > > to have a > > > > perfect lineup of vitamins and minerals eating raw. It's known > even > > > by the > > > > mainstream community that cooking destroys or at least reduces, > the > > > content > > > > of vitamins in foods. > > > > > > > > Caron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Good lord. What we call " B12 " is bacteria poop. The bacteria live in the soil, the gut, and elsewhere. Foods grown in soil not destroyed with pesticides grows plants that contain B12. Cows create B12 in the gut ... because they eat the bacteria in the soil they consume while they are eating grass. I do, at times, feel genuinely sorry to be correcting in post after post, but people have learned SO many myths, SO much incorrect information. Amazing ... a testament to the wonderful world of marketing. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Belinda Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:49 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] 80-10-10 diet B12 is only found in animal sources. It is not found in vegetables. Belinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I've read a number of studies that state that B-12 is produced by bacteria in a health digestive system and not absorbed in one that is providing housing to an abundance of bacteria found in a distressed digestive system. So... a low B12 reading would point to a problem with diet and elimination, rest, etc. And the question, What am I doing that is interfering with the normal functioning and normal environment of by digestive tract? If you Google Vitamin B-12 and intestinal bacteria or similar... you'll find a lot from both sides about the subject. Here's one that asserts how we produce and assimilate our own B-12: http://www.rawfoods.com/articles/b12issue.html ..wyn The Raw Retreat http://TheRawRetreat.com o) 888.EAT.RAW4LIFE f) 877.236.6999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Yes, we do need B-12 (it is very improtant) and I have no idea how they are getting it, without supplementing. It is likely believed that a healthy body produces it or something. That sems to be the answer from all the folks of diets that do not contain a mineral or vitamin that we need. Choline is another that we need that comes in foods that the 80-10-10 diet, I don't think includes. Egg yolks, meat, legumes, whole grain cereals. I have my serious doubts that women would get enough iron on this diet. There just is not enough of the foods that are eaten that have it in there. For men, this may not be a problem. The same for calcium. And of course. The proteins and the amino acids that we need. Doesn't look like enough and from enough different sources to balance it out. Anyway, I am not jumping on this path until I know more. Alot more. I just do not see a way to get all the nutrients our body needs to function properly, without adding supplements. I also would imagine some might need to be on this diet for a while before they notice a problem. For others, it might not take so long. Listen to your body and don't always assume that discomforts from your diet change is de-detox. Belinda > Hi Belinda, > That's what I used to think, but how do people following the 80 10 > 10 diet get enough B-12? If you follow it strictly, the book says that > you DON'T NEED any supplements. > So I'm confused. We NEED B-12, right? > Lynne > > > > B12 is only found in animal sources. It is not found in vegetables. > > > > Belinda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Elchanan, what is your take on probioticcs then I know someone had posted about fermented products Kefir and the like living foods I wanted toanswer tht post but didn't have anything to offer besides they make me feel good-good for creating a healthy gut (and ;related to the b12 ?) Just more advertising in your opinion? Thanks, Em rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: > > Good lord. What we call " B12 " is bacteria poop. The bacteria live in the > soil, the gut, and elsewhere. Foods grown in soil not destroyed with > pesticides grows plants that contain B12. Cows create B12 in the gut ... > because they eat the bacteria in the soil they consume while they are eating > grass. > > I do, at times, feel genuinely sorry to be correcting in post after post, > but people have learned SO many myths, SO much incorrect information. > > Amazing ... a testament to the wonderful world of marketing. > > Best, > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Belinda > Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:49 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] 80-10-10 diet > > > B12 is only found in animal sources. It is not found in vegetables. > > Belinda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 On Sunday 01 July 2007 11:38, Belinda wrote: > Yes, we do need B-12 (it is very improtant) and I have no idea how they > are getting it, without supplementing. It is likely believed that a > healthy body produces it or something. This is the problem with trying to fit life and living into a theory. > That sems to be the answer from > all the folks of diets that do not contain a mineral or vitamin that we > need. I have never heard that the human body synthesises its own vitamins when they are missing, although animals do so with vitamin C. I have read that the human body does synthesise enzymes. This is one of the main reasons why raw is healthful. If the enzymes are insufficient/missing then the body uses its own hormones to produce them. These hormones are then not available to perform the body's repair and maintenance functions they are designed for. Isn't B-12 important or even essential for those of you who live with a menstrual cycle? (if my ex-wife is anything to go by it certainly is). Now I can imagine an army of B-12 deficient women. That's a really scary thought. LOL neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Vitamin B12 is needed to prevent anemia. It aids in cell formation and cellular longevity. This vitamin is also required for proper digestion, absorption of foods, protein synthesis, and metabolism of carbohydrates and fats. In addition, vitamin B12 prevents nerve damage, maintains fertility, and promotes normal growth and developement. Largest amounts of Vitamin B12 are found in blue cheese, cheese, clams, eggs, herring, kidney, liver mackerel, milk, seafood, and tofu. It is not found in vegetables, it is only found in animal sources. (or supplements) Since I am down to practically no animal products at the moment, I am taking this and iron (and a few others) as a supplement. I do feel better with the supplements. Before the supplements, I was feeling worse everyday. Just getting up was a chore, and being cold was awful. I hate to be cold. I have been around a lot of animals that are dieing, as well as a few people. That is what happens to them. They slowly get colder and colder. Belinda > On Sunday 01 July 2007 11:38, Belinda wrote: > > Yes, we do need B-12 (it is very improtant) and I have no idea how they > > are getting it, without supplementing. It is likely believed that a > > healthy body produces it or something. > > This is the problem with trying to fit life and living into a theory. > > > That sems to be the answer from > > all the folks of diets that do not contain a mineral or vitamin that we > > need. > > I have never heard that the human body synthesises its own vitamins when they > are missing, although animals do so with vitamin C. > > I have read that the human body does synthesise enzymes. This is one of the > main reasons why raw is healthful. If the enzymes are insufficient/missing > then the body uses its own hormones to produce them. These hormones are then > not available to perform the body's repair and maintenance functions they are > designed for. > > Isn't B-12 important or even essential for those of you who live with a > menstrual cycle? (if my ex-wife is anything to go by it certainly is). > > Now I can imagine an army of B-12 deficient women. That's a really scary > thought. LOL > > neal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Thanks for the link to this article. I think it explains what El has been saying. I knew that Vitamin B12 can be stored in the body for up to 3 to 5 years and it can take that long to know that you have a B12 deficiency. So if you have been eating veggies only for less than 5 years, you might not know yet. Even in this article (which is obviously pro-veggies only) says that with the reabsorption of B12 in the intestines, it can take as long as 20 years to show symptoms of B12 deficiancies. A B12 deficiancy in the body can cause great harm. Sometimes it can be reversed (if caught early enough) by just adding the B12. At other times, if the deficiancy has gone on long enough, the damage can be irreversible. So, I guess one must decide where their faith lies, and what kind of a chance with their body do they want to take. Has anyone been on the 80-10-10 diet for more than 20 years, with no supplemtation of any kind. Even nutritional yeast? (Because I consider that a supplement). Another question. Are there articles about vegetarian, raw veggie only and B12 that state there is little chance or no chance of B12 deficiancy that is NOT promotoing a vegetarian diet? Because pro veggie only folks are naturally going to come up with all sorts of ideas of why it is the healthiest way to eat. Just like the meat and dairy folks promote thier animal products to be healthy to consume. Belinda > I've read a number of studies that state that B-12 is produced by > bacteria in a health digestive system and not absorbed in one that is > providing housing to an abundance of bacteria found in a distressed > digestive system. > > So... a low B12 reading would point to a problem with diet and > elimination, rest, etc. And the question, What am I doing that is > interfering with the normal functioning and normal environment of by > digestive tract? > > If you Google Vitamin B-12 and intestinal bacteria or similar... > you'll find a lot from both sides about the subject. > > Here's one that asserts how we produce and assimilate our own B- 12: > http://www.rawfoods.com/articles/b12issue.html > > .wyn > The Raw Retreat > http://TheRawRetreat.com > o) 888.EAT.RAW4LIFE > f) 877.236.6999 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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