[Raw Food]An a-ha moment 80-10-10 diet

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Elchanan

>What we call " B12 " is bacteria poop.

 

I love when things all fall into place in my brain! A few thought processes:

- I've always had an aversion to antibiotics, and have been on far to many

in my lifetime, and have also used antibacterial washes from time to time,

and have been told I needed B shots

- a lady in our (the mothers one) is also a doctor, and hates

anti-bacterial anything, specially for washing nappies and babies

- I listened to the teleconference with Doug Graham, and he mentioned that

food that is frozen is not likely to have high B12, because the bacteria

that create it have been killed by the freezing

 

These thoughts have been chasing each other round my head ever since, and it

finally clicked:

 

How many people with B12 deficiency either eat frozen, pasteurized, or

otherwise " sterilised " foods, OR use antibacterial substances, either as a

wash for their clothes, body or house, or by eating it (garlic, anyone?)?

 

Of course, absorbtion of the B12 in the gut is always a question,

particularly in a not-so-healthy digestive system, but I have a feeling the

antibacterials may play a part in it too.

 

Caron

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On Thursday 05 July 2007 02:41, Caron wrote:

> How many people with B12 deficiency either eat frozen, pasteurized, or

> otherwise " sterilised " foods, OR use antibacterial substances, either as a

> wash for their clothes, body or house, or by eating it (garlic, anyone?)?

 

Caron,

 

You seem to have a misunderstanding regarding anti-bacterials.

 

Read some research on colloidal silver. Silver is a naturally occurring

anti-bacterial. But you should discover what it works against and what it

leaves alone. e.g. it kills the strains such as e-coli and streptococcus,

strains that are harmful to human bodies, but does not adversely effect the

natural flora/fauna of our digestive systems and processes.

 

Urine is another such anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-viral, as is CS.

 

They are selective.

 

Nature is wise.

 

neal.

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neal

>You seem to have a misunderstanding regarding anti-bacterials.

 

Possibly, I only studied microbiology for 2 years at uni, so it's likely I

missed something.

 

>Read some research on colloidal silver. Silver is a naturally occurring

anti-bacterial. But you should discover what it works against and what it

leaves alone. e.g. it kills the strains such as e-coli and streptococcus,

strains that are harmful to human bodies, but does not adversely effect the

natural flora/fauna of our digestive systems and processes.

 

I theorised based on a few assumptions - firstly, that the natural bacteria

of our digestive systems aren't the source, or at least the sole source, of

B12, or we would not need to seek outside sources, such as bacteria in

foods, or eating soil, as you suggested a few weeks ago; if that's the case,

then the antibacterials being used prevent those outside sources from

entering our bodies to do their thing. There are a few possibilities as to

why these assumptions aren't true - for example, if the natural gut bacteria

are the source of B12, in an unhealthy digestive system, the " good " bacteria

isn't present, or is out of balance, and thus unable to do its job. Most

antibiotics these days are " broad spectrum " , as are most antibacterial

cleansers. Even those designed to be specialised don't just target one

single strain of bacteria, but all of that particular type.

 

>Urine is another such anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-viral, as is CS.

>They are selective.

 

I'd have to study this more, or get into a lab, to say one way or the other.

 

>Nature is wise.

 

I completely agree.

 

Caron

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No, no, no! And Yes, yes, yes!!! Caron, you've got it just right!!! You are

very bright and very attentive when you read and study things ... far more

attentive than most these days. Trust yourself.

 

Best,

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Caron

Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:49 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food]An " a-ha " moment 80-10-10 diet

 

 

neal

>You seem to have a misunderstanding regarding anti-bacterials.

 

Possibly, I only studied microbiology for 2 years at uni, so it's likely I

missed something.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Neal,

 

E-coli and streptococcus are living organisms that must have food to

survive and propagate, like any living organism. If the environment

they live within is without the food that they seek, such as a fit,

healthy, organism, they merely look for food elsewhere, or die down to

a number that is harmless to the " host " . Unfortunately, many people

harbor just the environment these " invaders " seek since many bodies

are in an acidic state of being, due to improper diet and lifestyle.

These " invaders " are best described as " clean-up crews " and it is more

accurate to say their relationship with the host organism is symbiotic.

 

Janet

 

rawfood , neal <kneel.pardoe wrote:

 

On Thursday 05 July 2007 02:41, Caron wrote:

How many people with B12 deficiency either eat frozen, pasteurized, or

otherwise " sterilised " foods, OR use antibacterial substances, either

as a wash for their clothes, body or house, or by eating it (garlic,

anyone?)?

 

Caron, You seem to have a misunderstanding regarding anti-bacterials.

 

Read some research on colloidal silver. Silver is a naturally

occurring anti-bacterial. But you should discover what it works

against and what it leaves alone. e.g. it kills the strains such as

e-coli and streptococcus, strains that are harmful to human bodies,

but does not adversely effect the natural flora/fauna of our digestive

systems and processes.

 

Urine is another such anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-viral, as

is CS.

 

They are selective.

 

Nature is wise.

 

neal.