Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I just read in a couple of places that fruit causes stress to the pancreas and insulin secretion. I thought this wasn't so, or was only when you ate the fruit cooked or after a meal so that it got stuck in the stomach. If this is true, it might explain why I am getting dark rings under my eyes, because of the adrenal stress. I've been eating fruit throughout the day for a few months straight now (veggies for dinner), so I would hate to think what damage I may have done to my adrenals if this is so. Why am I getting dark rings under my eyes anyway? Can anyone comment on this? I thought only refined sugar caused the insulin spike and adrenal stress, and that this didn't happen with fruit because it was absorbed slower? I don't know anymore, there is a lot of conflicting info out there and after my experience with trying to weight lift on a fruit and veggie diet, maybe some non-raw people actually know what they are talking about... Anyway, please help Thanks Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Elchanan? I would really appreciate your comments (and from others of course as well who have relevant info to add) on this thread Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 On Thursday 05 July 2007 16:13, Joe Postma wrote: > I just read in a couple of places that fruit causes stress to the > pancreas and insulin secretion. I thought this wasn't so, or was only > when you ate the fruit cooked or after a meal so that it got stuck in > the stomach. > If this is true, it might explain why I am getting dark rings under my > eyes, because of the adrenal stress. I've been eating fruit > throughout the day for a few months straight now (veggies for dinner), > so I would hate to think what damage I may have done to my adrenals if > this is so. Why am I getting dark rings under my eyes anyway? > > Can anyone comment on this? I thought only refined sugar caused the > insulin spike and adrenal stress, and that this didn't happen with > fruit because it was absorbed slower? I don't know anymore, there is > a lot of conflicting info out there and after my experience with > trying to weight lift on a fruit and veggie diet, maybe some non-raw > people actually know what they are talking about... > > Anyway, please help > > Thanks > > Joe Hi Joe, this is just my opinion, but if I were faced with your situation, and I didn't want medical intervention (which I wouldn't), and there is so much conflicting information. I would not listen to my head, I would go out and smell as much variety of food as I could until I found one that had that *appeal* and go eat that. But I mean an *instinctive* appeal, not one that gets the mind going on how good it will be, ignore that, LOL its all bs anyway! I cringe to say it but go with your gut feeling. neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Thanks Neal. So I was eating a mini watermelon at lunch, and I'm thinking " Water, sugar, and only a tenuous cellulose structure to keep it all held in place...how can this NOT spike my adrenals and insulin? " It is essentially sugar water and I'm eating it on an otherwise empty stomach (because that's how you're supposed to eat fruit). What else can happen besides rapid absorption of the sugar and an ensuing insulin spike? I guess the same goes for the cantaloupe, honeydew, grapes, cherries, apples, etc that I also eat in the mornings, because they are all high water content and high sugar foods as well. So is this good, bad, or what? This is an issue I haven't seen discussed by raw fooders in any books or anywhere else...are they trying to hide something? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Joe, This is caused, at the least, by high fat consumption. And we don't have here any substantive information about what you are eating, could also involve poor food combining, archival cleansing, and/or other factors. Much more in the archive ... search under " blood sugar " , " diabetes " for starters. Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Joe Postma Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:14 AM rawfood [Raw Food] Fruit and insulin I just read in a couple of places that fruit causes stress to the pancreas and insulin secretion. I thought this wasn't so, or was only when you ate the fruit cooked or after a meal so that it got stuck in the stomach. If this is true, it might explain why I am getting dark rings under my eyes, because of the adrenal stress. I've been eating fruit throughout the day for a few months straight now (veggies for dinner), so I would hate to think what damage I may have done to my adrenals if this is so. Why am I getting dark rings under my eyes anyway? Can anyone comment on this? I thought only refined sugar caused the insulin spike and adrenal stress, and that this didn't happen with fruit because it was absorbed slower? I don't know anymore, there is a lot of conflicting info out there and after my experience with trying to weight lift on a fruit and veggie diet, maybe some non-raw people actually know what they are talking about... Anyway, please help Thanks Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 On Thursday 05 July 2007 18:29, Joe Postma wrote: > Thanks Neal. > > So I was eating a mini watermelon at lunch, and I'm thinking " Water, > sugar, and only a tenuous cellulose structure to keep it all held in > place...how can this NOT spike my adrenals and insulin? " It is > essentially sugar water and I'm eating it on an otherwise empty > stomach (because that's how you're supposed to eat fruit). What else > can happen besides rapid absorption of the sugar and an ensuing > insulin spike? > > I guess the same goes for the cantaloupe, honeydew, grapes, cherries, > apples, etc that I also eat in the mornings, because they are all high > water content and high sugar foods as well. > > So is this good, bad, or what? This is an issue I haven't seen > discussed by raw fooders in any books or anywhere else...are they > trying to hide something? > > Joe Hi Joe, From what you state above, you are continuing to do the same thing. If you estimate something to be wrong, then you have to change what you are doing. My suggestion was don't listen to the mind, don't restrict in any way, yet you limit to your normal diet range. There is always going to be a problem when faced with someone defending a position, an opinion, a theory. It is and works exactly as any prejudice. Right/Wrong, Good/Bad, Us/Them... neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 I appreciate your insight Neal! Thanks > Hi Joe, > > From what you state above, you are continuing to do the same thing. If you > estimate something to be wrong, then you have to change what you are doing. > > My suggestion was don't listen to the mind, don't restrict in any way, yet you > limit to your normal diet range. > > There is always going to be a problem when faced with someone defending a > position, an opinion, a theory. It is and works exactly as any prejudice. > Right/Wrong, Good/Bad, Us/Them... > > neal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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