Probiotics Question (Em) (WAS: 80-10-10 diet)

[Guest guest]

Em,

 

Regarding fillers, the stuff has to be held together with something,

whether listed or not. Fillers are not generally listed as ingredients.

 

Your perception of " good " clearly differs from mine.

 

" Does no harm " is subjective, short-term, and meaningless, from my

perspective. Anything that diminishes my vitality does me harm ... and I

realize that is a matter of perception, a judgment, etc.

 

Four weeks, not sure what you have planned for yourself ... but for most

people, 4 weeks is not long enough to gain experience with any long-term way

of eating or living.

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

emusedmary

Friday, July 06, 2007 2:50 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Probiotics Question (Em) (WAS: 80-10-10 diet)

 

Elchanan,

 

I'm not sure what filers you are talking about? Unless you're talking about

the garbage in the manistream yogurts such as Dannon & yoplait but I have

bought Erivan & seven stars Erivan is esp. good-non homgenized & doesn't say

anything about pasturization I have not had any ill effects from that or

other fermented products such as kombucha tea or kimchi but as for now I

will not be using them as I plan to eat 100% raw for at least 4 weeks Thanks

for your poast- Emrawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan

wrote:

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Hi Em,

 

As I understand this topic, the purpose of probiotics is to reintroduce to

our digestive tract certain flora that we have damaged. But the probiotic

material itself is an inert object, so I don't see how this might occur.

More important, though, as we create health, those organisms that live

within us and that are supposed to flourish within us will do so, and the

other organisms will cease to flourish.

 

So while I see no great harm in probiotics (other than the usual fillers and

so forth that require energy and other resources to eliminate), I see no

particular benefit, either.

 

Best, Elchanan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I think it could be a great start, though. A glimpse into what might

be. I did a month raw and it gave me a good idea of how clear-headed I

can feel, how quickly I can release weight, and also gave me more

insight to help me on my path.

 

Laurie

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

> Four weeks, not sure what you have planned for yourself ... but for

most

> people, 4 weeks is not long enough to gain experience with any long-

term way

> of eating or living.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

>

[Guest guest]

 

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Laurie Swanson

Friday, July 06, 2007 3:57 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Probiotics Question (Em) (WAS: 80-10-10 diet)

 

 

I think it could be a great start, though. A glimpse into what might

be. I did a month raw and it gave me a good idea of how clear-headed I

can feel, how quickly I can release weight, and also gave me more

insight to help me on my path.

 

Laurie

 

rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com,

" Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

> Four weeks, not sure what you have planned for yourself ... but for

most

> people, 4 weeks is not long enough to gain experience with any long-

term way

> of eating or living.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-I guess you have never made yogurt

The stuff doesn't have to be held together.

its fermented milk

Erivan is pretty much raw.

it is plain -not sugar not pectin

No gelatin

no fruit

And no I doubt my perception og good is nay different from yours

It doesn't diminish my vitality.

Actually come to think of it is this a competition?

because I have afeeling i can out run,outswim & out bike you probably

on less sleep

I'm sure 4 weeks will be plenty of time for me

I know myself.

Em-- In rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Em,

>

> Regarding fillers, the stuff has to be held together with something,

> whether listed or not. Fillers are not generally listed as ingredients.

>

> Your perception of " good " clearly differs from mine.

>

> " Does no harm " is subjective, short-term, and meaningless, from my

> perspective. Anything that diminishes my vitality does me harm ... and I

> realize that is a matter of perception, a judgment, etc.

>

> Four weeks, not sure what you have planned for yourself ... but for most

> people, 4 weeks is not long enough to gain experience with any

long-term way

> of eating or living.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> emusedmary

> Friday, July 06, 2007 2:50 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Probiotics Question (Em) (WAS: 80-10-10 diet)

>

> Elchanan,

>

> I'm not sure what filers you are talking about? Unless you're

talking about

> the garbage in the manistream yogurts such as Dannon & yoplait but I

have

> bought Erivan & seven stars Erivan is esp. good-non homgenized &

doesn't say

> anything about pasturization I have not had any ill effects from that or

> other fermented products such as kombucha tea or kimchi but as for now I

> will not be using them as I plan to eat 100% raw for at least 4

weeks Thanks

> for your poast- Emrawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan@>

> wrote:

> ______

> Hi Em,

>

> As I understand this topic, the purpose of probiotics is to

reintroduce to

> our digestive tract certain flora that we have damaged. But the

probiotic

> material itself is an inert object, so I don't see how this might occur.

> More important, though, as we create health, those organisms that live

> within us and that are supposed to flourish within us will do so,

and the

> other organisms will cease to flourish.

>

> So while I see no great harm in probiotics (other than the usual

fillers and

> so forth that require energy and other resources to eliminate), I see no

> particular benefit, either.

>

> Best, Elchanan

>

>

>