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Is this true about oats not being gluten free?

Or is Food for Life just covering their bases?

 

Thanks,

-Erin

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

, " Marie Nelson "

<marie.nelson wrote:

>

> No... wheat still contains gluten, even if it's sprouted. I just

pulled

> this off Food for Life's website (they're the company that makes

Ezekial

> bread)

>

> Are Food for Life sprouted breads " gluten-free " ?

>

>

> Any product that contains wheat (including semolina, durum, spelt,

> triticale, and kamut) rye, barley, or oats cannot be considered

Gluten-Free.

> What is important is the sprouting process, through enzymatic

activity,

> changes gluten to a more digestible or tolerable state. Many

individuals

> with mild gluten sensitivities use sprouted products with no

adverse side

> affects or allergic reactions. However each person�individual

constitution

> is different. We advise any person with gluten sensitivities

including and

> in particular individuals with serious health conditions such as

Celiac

> Disease to consult their physician before consuming any product

that may

> contain gluten.

>

>

> On 12/18/06, not2mild <not2mild wrote:

>

> > Is Ezekial Bread not like eating wheat because the grains are

sprouted?

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Any product that contains wheat (including semolina, durum, spelt,

> triticale, and kamut) rye, barley, or oats CANNOT be considered

Gluten-Free.

Carolyn Malone

Lampasas,Tx

 

 

Erin <truepatriot wrote:

Is this true about oats not being gluten free?

Or is Food for Life just covering their bases?

 

Thanks,

-Erin

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

 

 

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On Dec 19, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Erin wrote:

 

> Is this true about oats not being gluten free?

> Or is Food for Life just covering their bases?

 

 

Most oats are contaminated with wheat from the field to the combine

to the mill.

 

Oats do contain avenin, which some folks with CD react to, especially

those with lots of damage. Many folks with CD do tolerate avenin,

but should only use oats from dedicated GF facilities (dedicated

fields, dedicated equipment, dedicated mills).

 

ygg

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If you want to eat oats, you have to purchase very specific brands that

farm/harvest their own and they can prove that they are in fact,

gluten-free. There are a couple of brands out now you can purchase.

 

One is Gifts of Nature. (I use this brand) you can buy them at Wild Oats

too.

 

http://giftsofnature.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=GON & Categ\

ory_Code=CGFO

 

 

but I was just reading on the gluten-intolerance group's website that they

list specifications on the quantity one should consume. www.gluten.net

 

 

*GIG Position on Oats in the Gluten-Free Diet*

 

Research suggests that *pure, uncontaminated oats* in moderation (1 cup

cooked) daily are safe for most persons with celiac disease. There is

concern by health professionals that most oats are cross-contaminated with

glutenous grains.

 

Oats add soluble fiber and added nutrients to the GFD that are otherwise

lacking or have limited availability. Some studies indicate that compliance

with the GFD is increased when oats are included.

 

Some persons using oats may notice increased abdominal discomfort, gas and

stool changes. This may be due to the increased fiber from oats. Introducing

oats slowly may decrease this discomfort. Rarely, some persons with celiac

disease may have a hypersensitivity to oats. There is insufficient research

to suggest this is related to a gluten-like reaction, or an allergic

reaction.

 

The GIG Medical Advisory Board suggests you work closely with your health

care team before deciding to introduce oats in your diet, and that you have

your antibody levels reviewed periodically.

 

This position has been approved by the GIG Medical Advisory Board. 0ct 2005.

 

 

 

 

On 12/19/06, Erin <truepatriot wrote:

>

> Is this true about oats not being gluten free?

> Or is Food for Life just covering their bases?

>

> Thanks,

> -Erin

> www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

>

> --- In

<%40>,

> " Marie Nelson "

> <marie.nelson wrote:

> >

> > No... wheat still contains gluten, even if it's sprouted. I just

> pulled

> > this off Food for Life's website (they're the company that makes

> Ezekial

> > bread)

> >

> > Are Food for Life sprouted breads " gluten-free " ?

> >

> >

> > Any product that contains wheat (including semolina, durum, spelt,

> > triticale, and kamut) rye, barley, or oats cannot be considered

> Gluten-Free.

> > What is important is the sprouting process, through enzymatic

> activity,

> > changes gluten to a more digestible or tolerable state. Many

> individuals

> > with mild gluten sensitivities use sprouted products with no

> adverse side

> > affects or allergic reactions. However each person�individual

> constitution

> > is different. We advise any person with gluten sensitivities

> including and

> > in particular individuals with serious health conditions such as

> Celiac

> > Disease to consult their physician before consuming any product

> that may

> > contain gluten.

> >

> >

> > On 12/18/06, not2mild <not2mild wrote:

> >

> > > Is Ezekial Bread not like eating wheat because the grains are

> sprouted?

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Don't forget Farro. I've been finding it in everything now. Pasta, bread,

just as grain to use for risotto. :)

 

Kris

 

 

On 19/12/06, Carolyn Malone <honeycomb44 wrote:

Any product that contains wheat (including semolina, durum, spelt,

> triticale, and kamut) rye, barley, or oats CANNOT be considered

Gluten-Free.

Carolyn Malone

Lampasas,Tx

 

 

 

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Farro is just an italian wheat variety that is currently trendy. It's what

farina (cream of wheat) was originally made from.

 

BL

 

On 12/19/06, Kris <moizissimo wrote:

>

> Don't forget Farro. I've been finding it in everything now. Pasta,

> bread,

> just as grain to use for risotto. :)

>

 

 

 

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> Some persons using oats may notice increased abdominal

> discomfort, gas and stool changes. This may be due to the

> increased fiber from oats. Introducing oats slowly may

> decrease this discomfort.

 

It's really more likely to be due to the avenin (in Spain, researchers

test for anti-avenin antibodies instead of anti-gliadin, because it is

more specific to celiac in kids). The baby serving of oats they say

is safe (1/3 cup) has less fiber than an apple and only slightly more

than the same size serving of brown rice. If you can eat whole fruit

and veggies and " tolerate " a normal helping of brown rice, beans,

corn, quinoa, etc, you will have no issues from the " added fiber " of

oats.

 

Most studies on oat " safety " are done in the EU -- they don't say oats

are entirely safe, only that they are no more damaging than a

low-gluten diet (what the EU calls " gluten free " can contain large

amounts of low-gluten wheat starch). Some studies show only slightly

higher antibodies than those with " gluten free " wheat starch (but

double the drop out rates and some kids that still did not grow until

removed from the oat containing diet). One recent one compared those

who voluntarily consumed oats vs. those who did not -- half dropped

oats during the 5-year study and the comparison showed " no difference "

vs those who at wheat starch diets during the time period. Antibodies

were not tested, nor were any complications included in the study

(only biopsy results). Whether or not eating low-gluten wheat starch

and oats will harm you in the long run remains to be seen (but several

studies suggest it will, as those who eat the " gf " wheat starch in the

EU seem to have lower life expectancy and higher complication rates,

vs some other countries where " gf " has a more strict definition).

 

> The GIG Medical Advisory Board suggests you work closely with

> your health care team before deciding to introduce oats in

> your diet, and that you have your antibody levels reviewed

> periodically.

 

At least one group recommends bi-annual antibody checks and annual

biopsies. Add that cost to the $10/lb for oats and it makes little

economic sense (even costly gf flours become cheap in comparison --

quinoa is often less than $2/lb here).

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