Daily calorie count for celiacs?

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone!

 

My mother has celiac disease & has mentioned how much she dreads going back

on the celiac diet in January - not so much the gluten free aspect as the

portion control.

 

She has told me her doctor has said it is practically impossible for a

celiac patient to be even a few pounds overweight - it is very difficult for

celiacs even to maintain their weight, if they stay on the diet.

 

She showed me a list of foods & the portions allowed, and really, it does

not seem to be enough. The list would say (for example) 2 servings of meat

or meat alternative: one serving of meat equals 2-3 oz of chicken or beef.

I did make sure she understood that meant she could have 4-6 oz of meat a

day (2 x 2-3 oz).

 

I told her it didn't seem to be enough food for a day (especially since she

doesn't drink milk, eat yogurt, or much cheese.) I kept reading & at the

bottom of the page, it said this diet should equal 1000-1200 calories per

day. No wonder people on this diet are thin!!

 

My question is: I know people on this list are gluten free for a number of

reasons. Does anyone here have celiac disease & w all other things being

equal, does your doctor limit the number of calories you can eat?

 

(That is, no restrictions on food for ethical reasons, gi/high blood

pressure/diabetic/other issues, allergies, etc.,.)

 

I can understand for general health reasons (fat, cholesterol) not wanting

to eat too much meat or dairy, but is there any reason not to fill up on

vegetables??

 

I tell her I can't see a problem with how many bananas or sweet potatoes she

eats, but she insists she can only have what is listed on this sheet of

paper.

 

I expect I will be starting to cook for my parents soon, and while I don't

think they will ever become vegetarians, (let alone vegan), I'd like to

introduce them to better dietary habits.

 

My father will be tough - he's diabetic & won't stay away from salted meats,

(sausage, salami, etc.) sugar, and fat (especially mayonnaise). My mother

is celiac & doesn't like salads, or most vegetables - she does eat tomato

sauce but not tomatoes.

 

I know this list is also vegan & I don't mean to offend anyone w my mention

of meat & dairy - it's only b/c I'm concerned for my mother & I'm trying to

explain her eating habits & needs.

 

Thank you all in advance!

 

His in JOY

 

(: Sunshine

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sunshine

 

As a person with celiac disease who has struggled with a weight problem all

her life, I say your mom's doctor is wrong-o. If a person switches to a

gluten free diet with it's replacement starches, etc. there is a huge chance

of weight gain and becoming overweight. It really depends on your mom's

body type and her metabolism. Limiting her to a certain number of calories

or portion sizes doesn't make sense, but it has been my experience that some

people believe doctors know all and must be obeyed. It makes more sense if

your mom were to visit with a dietician or nutritionist experienced in CD,

but she will have to figure it out for herself. Sadly that means you are

along for the ride for a bit.

 

Quite honestly, it sounds more like her doctor has given her a diabetic diet

than a CD one except for the removal of gluten foods.

 

I found that need to focus on healthy foods, almost no meat, and no animal

products, and a variety of fruits and vegetables. I also have to watch my

sugars though, so I pay attention to the glycemic index of foods as well.

 

It might matter how much bananas and sweet potatoes she eats because the

doctor is watching for potassium overload as well. That might relate to

medications he has her on rather than the CD, but that is speculation on my

part.

 

HTH

 

BL

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It's a transformation to go from eating one way to introducing another. It is

like writing with your right hand your whole life, then needing to switch to the

left hand.

 

Trust me, with a little bit of will, your Mom and Dad will get there!

 

I eat about 900-1200 calories per day. My diet consists of mostly veggies

fruits and white meat (fish, chicken)

 

I like to eat mostly raw foods, there is a great book called " Raw food Real

World " it is meals made with raw ingredients, even lasagne!

 

I feel my body works great on that many calories, I feel satisfied and

healthy! Listen to your body.

 

Charleen

 

Vegan Foodstuffs <veganfoodstuffs wrote:

Hi Everyone!

 

My mother has celiac disease & has mentioned how much she dreads going back

on the celiac diet in January - not so much the gluten free aspect as the

portion control.

 

She has told me her doctor has said it is practically impossible for a

celiac patient to be even a few pounds overweight - it is very difficult for

celiacs even to maintain their weight, if they stay on the diet.

 

She showed me a list of foods & the portions allowed, and really, it does

not seem to be enough. The list would say (for example) 2 servings of meat

or meat alternative: one serving of meat equals 2-3 oz of chicken or beef.

I did make sure she understood that meant she could have 4-6 oz of meat a

day (2 x 2-3 oz).

 

I told her it didn't seem to be enough food for a day (especially since she

doesn't drink milk, eat yogurt, or much cheese.) I kept reading & at the

bottom of the page, it said this diet should equal 1000-1200 calories per

day. No wonder people on this diet are thin!!

 

My question is: I know people on this list are gluten free for a number of

reasons. Does anyone here have celiac disease & w all other things being

equal, does your doctor limit the number of calories you can eat?

 

(That is, no restrictions on food for ethical reasons, gi/high blood

pressure/diabetic/other issues, allergies, etc.,.)

 

I can understand for general health reasons (fat, cholesterol) not wanting

to eat too much meat or dairy, but is there any reason not to fill up on

vegetables??

 

I tell her I can't see a problem with how many bananas or sweet potatoes she

eats, but she insists she can only have what is listed on this sheet of

paper.

 

I expect I will be starting to cook for my parents soon, and while I don't

think they will ever become vegetarians, (let alone vegan), I'd like to

introduce them to better dietary habits.

 

My father will be tough - he's diabetic & won't stay away from salted meats,

(sausage, salami, etc.) sugar, and fat (especially mayonnaise). My mother

is celiac & doesn't like salads, or most vegetables - she does eat tomato

sauce but not tomatoes.

 

I know this list is also vegan & I don't mean to offend anyone w my mention

of meat & dairy - it's only b/c I'm concerned for my mother & I'm trying to

explain her eating habits & needs.

 

Thank you all in advance!

 

His in JOY

 

(: Sunshine

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, since I have been on the gluten free diet I have

gained a little. The reason is the breads and pastas

we eat have basically no nutrition value so I teneded

to eat a little more. My doc said to limit sugar and

caffine and most grains except rice and quinia. I

tend to eat the gluten free breads and things from

Whole Foods! Pizza is my favorite!

Once you learn what not to eat it is easier. Also,

look around your area for a nutritionist who

specializes in gluten free diets. I found one in

Dallas,Texas and she helped me see things differently.

 

Much luck.!

Kathi

 

 

--- Brenda-Lee Olson <shalomaleichemacademy

wrote:

 

> Sunshine

>

> As a person with celiac disease who has struggled

> with a weight problem all

> her life, I say your mom's doctor is wrong-o. If a

> person switches to a

> gluten free diet with it's replacement starches,

> etc. there is a huge chance

> of weight gain and becoming overweight. It really

> depends on your mom's

> body type and her metabolism. Limiting her to a

> certain number of calories

> or portion sizes doesn't make sense, but it has been

> my experience that some

> people believe doctors know all and must be obeyed.

> It makes more sense if

> your mom were to visit with a dietician or

> nutritionist experienced in CD,

> but she will have to figure it out for herself.

> Sadly that means you are

> along for the ride for a bit.

>

> Quite honestly, it sounds more like her doctor has

> given her a diabetic diet

> than a CD one except for the removal of gluten

> foods.

>

> I found that need to focus on healthy foods, almost

> no meat, and no animal

> products, and a variety of fruits and vegetables. I

> also have to watch my

> sugars though, so I pay attention to the glycemic

> index of foods as well.

>

> It might matter how much bananas and sweet potatoes

> she eats because the

> doctor is watching for potassium overload as well.

> That might relate to

> medications he has her on rather than the CD, but

> that is speculation on my

> part.

>

> HTH

>

> BL

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

i am celiac and i am an endurance athlete...that said depending on the time of

year and my level of activity racing and training i eat anywhere from 800 (very

inactive periods) to close to 3500 (peak racing season). the best thing is to

learn to listen to your body...1000 - 12000 calories is a decent amount for a

normal sedentary adult, at least that is what my nutritionist friends says.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunshine,

 

I have been gone for a month, but found your post very interesting.

I have two celiacs in my family. My 10 year old son, who is very

thin, and my 37 year old husband who is very over weight. We have

been on this diet for 8+ years.

 

I have never heard of such a thing as what the doctor told your

mother. In fact, my son is on a very high calorie diet, and we are

struggling to keep weight on him.

 

My husband refuses to diet in any way, so he is over wieght and not

very healthy.

 

But in all my years cooking and eating a GF diet, calorie count has

never been an issue.

 

If it was me, I would through out that part, and just concentrate on

providing a good, balanced GF diet.

 

I am so sorry your Mom is under so much stress about this. Is she

diabetic, or have some other issue that the doctor is trying to

address at the same time?

 

Amy

[Guest guest]

Hi Sunshine.

 

I love your name. :-)

 

Since I am slow in responding to your post, you may have already received

sufficient responses... however, here's my two cents. I believe you are correct

to want your Mom to let herself eat all the fruit and veggies she wants.

Limiting, ideally eliminating, the meat and dairy is definitely the way to go,

so one does have to increase the plant food content to make up the difference in

calories and nutrition. My husband and I eat ALL we want of low-fat plant

foods, eating until we are full. We have lots of energy and maintain our weight

naturally.

 

As someone may have already explained, celiacs are sometimes excessively thin

due to malabsorption problems while eating gluten. After they begin a

gluten-free diet, the absorption problems usually heal and those who had trouble

maintaining their weight tend to gain. An interesting variation on this is that

excessive OVER weight is considered an indication of possible undiagnosed gluten

intolerance. It sounds to me like your mother's doctor needs some undating in

his (or her) understanding of gluten sensitivity. I hope you can help the

doctor with that for the sake of your mother and everyone else in that doctor's

care.

 

Wishing you all the best...

 

Deborah

 

 

Hi Everyone!

 

My mother has celiac disease & has mentioned how much she dreads going back

on the celiac diet in January - not so much the gluten free aspect as the

portion control.

 

She has told me her doctor has said it is practically impossible for a

celiac patient to be even a few pounds overweight - it is very difficult for

celiacs even to maintain their weight, if they stay on the diet.

 

She showed me a list of foods & the portions allowed, and really, it does

not seem to be enough. The list would say (for example) 2 servings of meat

or meat alternative: one serving of meat equals 2-3 oz of chicken or beef.

I did make sure she understood that meant she could have 4-6 oz of meat a

day (2 x 2-3 oz).

 

I told her it didn't seem to be enough food for a day (especially since she

doesn't drink milk, eat yogurt, or much cheese.) I kept reading & at the

bottom of the page, it said this diet should equal 1000-1200 calories per

day. No wonder people on this diet are thin!!

 

My question is: I know people on this list are gluten free for a number of

reasons. Does anyone here have celiac disease & w all other things being

equal, does your doctor limit the number of calories you can eat?

 

(That is, no restrictions on food for ethical reasons, gi/high blood

pressure/diabetic/other issues, allergies, etc.,.)

 

I can understand for general health reasons (fat, cholesterol) not wanting

to eat too much meat or dairy, but is there any reason not to fill up on

vegetables??

 

I tell her I can't see a problem with how many bananas or sweet potatoes she

eats, but she insists she can only have what is listed on this sheet of

paper.

 

I expect I will be starting to cook for my parents soon, and while I don't

think they will ever become vegetarians, (let alone vegan), I'd like to

introduce them to better dietary habits.

 

My father will be tough - he's diabetic & won't stay away from salted meats,

(sausage, salami, etc.) sugar, and fat (especially mayonnaise). My mother

is celiac & doesn't like salads, or most vegetables - she does eat tomato

sauce but not tomatoes.

 

I know this list is also vegan & I don't mean to offend anyone w my mention

of meat & dairy - it's only b/c I'm concerned for my mother & I'm trying to

explain her eating habits & needs.

 

Thank you all in advance!

 

His in JOY

 

(: Sunshine

.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,,,I am 59 years old and have been on a gluten diet for a few years now .I

have never been told to maintain a certain caloric diet at all. I eat pretty

much all I want of the gluten-free foods and nmaintain a level weight , even for

one who has always had a problem with losing weight. I have had no problems at

all, and have stopped any problems with Fibromyalgia sense getting on the

gluten-free diet. I say to experiment with added portions and see how your

mother responds. I am in better health than I have been in 7 years and I thank

God for finding out what was wrong and getting on the diet. Good wishes and

best of luck !!!!!!!! Joaniegirl

 

 

[Guest guest]

That is an extremely calorie restricted diet -- too little for any

man, even on a diet, and nearly too little for a woman (unless dieting

and severe lack of activity, plus being a very short person). Even if

she wants to lose weight, she need to eat more (closer to 1500-1800

calories) and add exercise to increase her caloric usage.

 

Sounds like she is seeing some quack diet " doc " , perhaps not even an

MD. Any doc that hands out a " diet " is going to tell you that an

unlimited amount of veggies can be consumed (so long as not fried or

drowned in butter and excluding perhaps potatoes). Even sweet potatoes

are less of an issue, as they are high in fiber and vitamins.

 

If she doubled all the portions, she would have the calories required

for an average adult female of moderate activity levels.

 

As for my docs - none of them have suggested any calorie restrictions

(or other ingredients) unless for the purpose of losing weight. They

do, however, recommend supplementation of B vitamins and folic acid

(research studies show these lacking in nearly all with CD, even years

after diagnosis). She'll need some source of calcium, of course (and

dairy isn't necessarily the best one) -- just make sure whatever

source is used, that it is taken with an acidic meal or her vit C

tablets or orange juice (not with anti-acids, as these block any

absorption of calcium, making TUMS one of the worst possible choices

after milk).

 

K

 

>

> She showed me a list of foods & the portions allowed, and

> really, it does not seem to be enough. The list would say

> (for example) 2 servings of meat or meat alternative: one

> serving of meat equals 2-3 oz of chicken or beef.

> I did make sure she understood that meant she could have 4-6

> oz of meat a day (2 x 2-3 oz).

>

> I told her it didn't seem to be enough food for a day

> (especially since she doesn't drink milk, eat yogurt, or much

> cheese.) I kept reading & at the bottom of the page, it said

> this diet should equal 1000-1200 calories per day. No wonder

> people on this diet are thin!!