Low glycemic recipes also Whole grain Gf bread

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Hi,

 

 

Trying to lose a ton of weight here , wondering if anyone has had any success

losing large amounts of weight, also if they have any low glycemic recipes.

 

Also

Is there such a thing has a whole grain tasty gf bread?

 

Thanks

crystal

 

 

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Hi Crystal;

 

Yah, I lost a " ton " of weight myself, 50 lbs. I did it with a LOW-FAT gf vegan

diet. The following also used low-fat vegan diet. Here's their success stories

for your inspiration!

 

http://www.drmcdougall.com/stars/lassie_nelson.html

 

http://www.drmcdougall.com/stars/kathy_roberts.html

 

http://www.drmcdougall.com/stars/kelly_mcdougall.html

 

http://www.drmcdougall.com/stars/evelyn_weightloss.html

 

Wishing you all the best,

 

Deborah

 

 

Hi,

Trying to lose a ton of weight here , wondering if anyone has had any success

losing large amounts of weight, also if they have any low glycemic recipes.

Also

Is there such a thing has a whole grain tasty gf bread?

Thanks

crystal

.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi-

I lost 30 lbs in 3 months, and I didn't think I needed to lose weight to

begin with! I did it by becoming vegan and eliminating all refined sugars

and flours from my diet. Any label that says " high fructose corn syrup " is

diet sabatoge!!! And " low-fat " doesn't mean it is going to help you lose

weight, especially if it is full of sugar.

Detoxing also releases toxins from the body, allowing you to rid

yourself of retained water, etc. I eliminated artifical sweetners and other

food additives to my diet. I also began drinking a lot of water, eliminated

soda from my diet, and started diluting my juice with water.

I have found some wonderful recipes at www.fatfreevegan.com and

http://www.all-creatures.org/recipes.html.

After adjusting my diet as detailed above, I have a lot more energy. I

am even training for my first marathon in May! I think we get caught in

energy traps when we eat artifical, processed foods and animal products.

Also, I am gluten intolerant so gluten has a real downer effect on my

energy! Make sure you get exercise too!

Good luck,

you can do it!!!

Angie

 

 

 

Life doesn't give you breathing room, but if you stop grasping for control

of the uncontrollable, you can learn to breathe through it all.--Chris Colin

 

 

 

 

 

>crystal sacco <benatarfan29

>

>

> Low glycemic recipes also Whole grain Gf

>bread

>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:54:56 -0800 (PST)

>

>Hi,

>

>

> Trying to lose a ton of weight here , wondering if anyone has had any

>success losing large amounts of weight, also if they have any low glycemic

>recipes.

>

> Also

> Is there such a thing has a whole grain tasty gf bread?

>

> Thanks

> crystal

>

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I am very dairy and gluten intolerant, but still eat lean protein (sorry - I

know some people do not like animal products discussed, or the consumption

of them mentioned in this group). I know I need protein for muscle recovery

etc. but just don't feel like I can get enough from beans and nuts (plus I

have IBS, which makes eating beans tough on the tummy). I cannot have soy

either, I am very allergic to that. I would like to hear from some of you

why you have ruled out animal products entirely - not so much for ethical

reasons, but I am interested more on the health front.

 

I hope this discussion does not irritate those of you who are vegan. But I

would like to hear more about why people have made that transition. And who

could I possibly get enough protein without evoking an IBS episode.

 

Thanks,

Sharon

 

 

On 1/18/07, Angela Boehnen <adboehnen wrote:

>

> Hi-

> I lost 30 lbs in 3 months, and I didn't think I needed to lose weight

> to

> begin with! I did it by becoming vegan and eliminating all refined sugars

> and flours from my diet. Any label that says " high fructose corn syrup "

> is

> diet sabatoge!!! And " low-fat " doesn't mean it is going to help you lose

> weight, especially if it is full of sugar.

> Detoxing also releases toxins from the body, allowing you to rid

> yourself of retained water, etc. I eliminated artifical sweetners and

> other

> food additives to my diet. I also began drinking a lot of water,

> eliminated

> soda from my diet, and started diluting my juice with water.

> I have found some wonderful recipes at www.fatfreevegan.com and

> http://www.all-creatures.org/recipes.html.

> After adjusting my diet as detailed above, I have a lot more energy. I

> am even training for my first marathon in May! I think we get caught in

> energy traps when we eat artifical, processed foods and animal products.

> Also, I am gluten intolerant so gluten has a real downer effect on my

> energy! Make sure you get exercise too!

> Good luck,

> you can do it!!!

> Angie

>

>

>

> Life doesn't give you breathing room, but if you stop grasping for control

> of the uncontrollable, you can learn to breathe through it all.--Chris

> Colin

>

>

>

>

>

> >crystal sacco <benatarfan29

> >

> >

> > Low glycemic recipes also Whole grain Gf

> >bread

> >Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:54:56 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >Hi,

> >

> >

> > Trying to lose a ton of weight here , wondering if anyone has had any

> >success losing large amounts of weight, also if they have any low

> glycemic

> >recipes.

> >

> > Also

> > Is there such a thing has a whole grain tasty gf bread?

> >

> > Thanks

> > crystal

> >

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On Jan 18, 2007, at 9:54 AM, crystal sacco wrote:

 

> Also

> Is there such a thing has a whole grain tasty gf bread?

 

Sure, if you make it from scratch.

 

otherwise, FoodForLife has three: Bhutanese Red Rice, China Black

Rice, and Brown Rice. Those are their lowest-sugar wholegrain

breads. My hubby prefers the black rice. I think those are vegan,

but I haven't checked (he's not vegan).

 

ygg

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

I'm very recently vegan myself. I decided to switch after I read Colin

Campbell's new book " The China Study " in which he describes his own journey

from his dairy farmer childhood to a vegan lifestyle. He's a nutritional

biochemist and has been involved in and directed some very impressive

scientific studies about diet and health. I highly recommend the book--in

fact, I have to be careful not to annoy my friends by insisting. He'll

definitely answer your questions about protein. Here's a link:

http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html If you click on the " in the news "

tab and scroll down, there's a link to a video/lecture of Dr. Campbell that

I really liked.

 

Basically, his research makes it clear that all the diseases of affluence:

heart, cancer, arthritis, obesity have a direct correlation to animal

protein. Eliminating animal protein stops and often reverses the illness, or

just prevents it if you change diet while you're still healthy.

 

I have questions about the gut reactions to increased fiber as well and look

forward to other responses. I've been very gassy, though today I feel like I

may have turned a corner. I know that any diet change will need an

adjustment period for the digestive system. I believe you can get plenty of

protein without soy and with very little beans--but you'll need more expert

advice than I can give. All the best.

 

Laurie

lbilyeu

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Sharon Cercone

Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:59 PM

 

Re: Low glycemic recipes also Whole grain

Gf bread

 

I am very dairy and gluten intolerant, but still eat lean protein (sorry - I

know some people do not like animal products discussed, or the consumption

of them mentioned in this group). I know I need protein for muscle recovery

etc. but just don't feel like I can get enough from beans and nuts (plus I

have IBS, which makes eating beans tough on the tummy). I cannot have soy

either, I am very allergic to that. I would like to hear from some of you

why you have ruled out animal products entirely - not so much for ethical

reasons, but I am interested more on the health front.

 

I hope this discussion does not irritate those of you who are vegan. But I

would like to hear more about why people have made that transition. And who

could I possibly get enough protein without evoking an IBS episode.

 

Thanks,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon;

 

The concept of " lean " animal flesh is pretty much an illusion. Here is a

paragraph from the following web article:

http://www.pcrm.org/health/prevmed/chol_heartdisease.html

 

" In the leanest cuts of beef, about 30 percent of the calories come from

fat. Skinless chicken is nearly as high, at 23 percent. Even without the

skin, chicken is never truly a low-fat food. Most cheeses contain 60 to 80

percent of calories from fat, and premium ice creams often contain 45 to 65

percent of calories from fat. Butter, margarine, and oils of all types are

typically 95 to 100 percent of calories from fat. Grains, beans, vegetables,

and fruits, however, have comfortably less than 10 percent of their calories

coming from fat. "

 

As it also states in that article, removing visible fat only slightly

reduces the problem since the cholesterol of animal products is carried in

the so-called " lean " muscle tissue. If you will pardon my bluntness here,

your feeling of need for animal products may simply be addiction. Eating

animal products causes a chemical response in our bodies that gives people a

rush of pleasureable feelings. It's easy enough to glorify the experience

in all sorts of ways; assuming it is a need for the protein is only one of

the many I have heard. I would suggest that you have a look at Neal

Barnard's " Breaking the Food Seduction " book too if you really do want to

have your eyes opened about the health reasons for avoiding animal products.

 

Please forgive me if that seems too harsh. Wishing you all the best,

 

Deborah

 

 

I am very dairy and gluten intolerant, but still eat lean protein (sorry - I

know some people do not like animal products discussed, or the consumption

of them mentioned in this group). I know I need protein for muscle recovery

etc. but just don't feel like I can get enough from beans and nuts (plus I

have IBS, which makes eating beans tough on the tummy). I cannot have soy

either, I am very allergic to that. I would like to hear from some of you

why you have ruled out animal products entirely - not so much for ethical

reasons, but I am interested more on the health front.

 

I hope this discussion does not irritate those of you who are vegan. But I

would like to hear more about why people have made that transition. And who

could I possibly get enough protein without evoking an IBS episode.

 

Thanks,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this information and link.

 

Have you tried taking digestive enzymes to help your stomach? Or, once you

feel bloated, drink some Vit C (Emergen-C), or chew on some fennel seeds, or

if you have fennel tea, better yet. Just a few little tricks I have learned

since dealing with terrible IBS symptoms. Sometimes going for a good walk

also helps, even though it might seem uncomfortable at first.

 

Thanks,

Sharon

 

 

On 1/18/07, Laurie Bilyeu <lauriebilyeu wrote:

>

> Hi Sharon,

> I'm very recently vegan myself. I decided to switch after I read Colin

> Campbell's new book " The China Study " in which he describes his own

> journey

> from his dairy farmer childhood to a vegan lifestyle. He's a nutritional

> biochemist and has been involved in and directed some very impressive

> scientific studies about diet and health. I highly recommend the book--in

> fact, I have to be careful not to annoy my friends by insisting. He'll

> definitely answer your questions about protein. Here's a link:

> http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html If you click on the " in the news "

> tab and scroll down, there's a link to a video/lecture of Dr. Campbell

> that

> I really liked.

>

> Basically, his research makes it clear that all the diseases of affluence:

> heart, cancer, arthritis, obesity have a direct correlation to animal

> protein. Eliminating animal protein stops and often reverses the illness,

> or

> just prevents it if you change diet while you're still healthy.

>

> I have questions about the gut reactions to increased fiber as well and

> look

> forward to other responses. I've been very gassy, though today I feel like

> I

> may have turned a corner. I know that any diet change will need an

> adjustment period for the digestive system. I believe you can get plenty

> of

> protein without soy and with very little beans--but you'll need more

> expert

> advice than I can give. All the best.

>

> Laurie

> lbilyeu <lbilyeu%40uuma.org>

>

>

>

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> On Behalf Of Sharon Cercone

> Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:59 PM

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> Re: Low glycemic recipes also Whole grain

> Gf bread

>

> I am very dairy and gluten intolerant, but still eat lean protein (sorry -

> I

> know some people do not like animal products discussed, or the consumption

> of them mentioned in this group). I know I need protein for muscle

> recovery

> etc. but just don't feel like I can get enough from beans and nuts (plus I

> have IBS, which makes eating beans tough on the tummy). I cannot have soy

> either, I am very allergic to that. I would like to hear from some of you

> why you have ruled out animal products entirely - not so much for ethical

> reasons, but I am interested more on the health front.

>

> I hope this discussion does not irritate those of you who are vegan. But I

> would like to hear more about why people have made that transition. And

> who

> could I possibly get enough protein without evoking an IBS episode.

>

> Thanks,

> Sharon

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

As I type this, I realized you were asking for low glycemic recipes. I'm

not sure if these are or not--there's some nutritional info on the page. My

experience with most premade GF breads is that they aren't too good, but

these are really yummy (and easy to make for those of us who don't have much

time to cook!)

 

Bob's Red Mill just put out 3 new GF bread mixes (they do call for eggs, but

you could probably substitute those out with flax/water combo). There's

cornbread (which I added a small can of jalapenos to, making them it a

little spicy), cinnamon raisin bread and a hearty whole grain bread.

 

http://www.bobsredmill.com/gluten_free_info.php

 

 

Marie =)

 

 

On 1/18/07, crystal sacco <benatarfan29 wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

>

> Trying to lose a ton of weight here , wondering if anyone has had any

> success losing large amounts of weight, also if they have any low glycemic

> recipes.

>

> Also

> Is there such a thing has a whole grain tasty gf bread?

>

> Thanks

> crystal

>

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[Guest guest]

Not harsh at all.....I know food is very addicting, and we tend to be

addicted to foods that are not good for us - like sugar, etc. I will take a

look at the link and book you mentioned. I appreciate all the insight I can

get my hands on!!! So please keep it coming!!!

 

Sharon

 

 

 

 

On 1/18/07, Deborah Pageau <dpageau wrote:

>

> Hi Sharon;

>

> The concept of " lean " animal flesh is pretty much an illusion. Here is a

> paragraph from the following web article:

> http://www.pcrm.org/health/prevmed/chol_heartdisease.html

>

> " In the leanest cuts of beef, about 30 percent of the calories come from

> fat. Skinless chicken is nearly as high, at 23 percent. Even without the

> skin, chicken is never truly a low-fat food. Most cheeses contain 60 to 80

>

> percent of calories from fat, and premium ice creams often contain 45 to

> 65

> percent of calories from fat. Butter, margarine, and oils of all types are

>

> typically 95 to 100 percent of calories from fat. Grains, beans,

> vegetables,

> and fruits, however, have comfortably less than 10 percent of their

> calories

> coming from fat. "

>

> As it also states in that article, removing visible fat only slightly

> reduces the problem since the cholesterol of animal products is carried in

>

> the so-called " lean " muscle tissue. If you will pardon my bluntness here,

> your feeling of need for animal products may simply be addiction. Eating

> animal products causes a chemical response in our bodies that gives people

> a

> rush of pleasureable feelings. It's easy enough to glorify the experience

> in all sorts of ways; assuming it is a need for the protein is only one of

>

> the many I have heard. I would suggest that you have a look at Neal

> Barnard's " Breaking the Food Seduction " book too if you really do want to

> have your eyes opened about the health reasons for avoiding animal

> products.

>

> Please forgive me if that seems too harsh. Wishing you all the best,

>

> Deborah

>

> I am very dairy and gluten intolerant, but still eat lean protein (sorry -

> I

> know some people do not like animal products discussed, or the consumption

> of them mentioned in this group). I know I need protein for muscle

> recovery

> etc. but just don't feel like I can get enough from beans and nuts (plus I

> have IBS, which makes eating beans tough on the tummy). I cannot have soy

> either, I am very allergic to that. I would like to hear from some of you

> why you have ruled out animal products entirely - not so much for ethical

> reasons, but I am interested more on the health front.

>

> I hope this discussion does not irritate those of you who are vegan. But I

> would like to hear more about why people have made that transition. And

> who

> could I possibly get enough protein without evoking an IBS episode.

>

> Thanks,

> Sharon

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

 

I do try to remember to take digestive enzymes. Never thought about taking

C, though. I have some right here and will take it now! We love Emergen-C.

I'd also forgotten fennel seeds. Thank you very much. Lemong-ginger tea felt

good the other day-naturally it was the last tea bag. I'm sure I can make

tea with the fennel seeds themselves, though. Thanks a bunch!

 

 

 

Laurie

 

<lbilyeu lbilyeu

 

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On Behalf Of Sharon Cercone

Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:33 PM

 

Re: Low glycemic recipes also Whole grain

Gf bread

 

 

 

Thank you for this information and link.

 

Have you tried taking digestive enzymes to help your stomach? Or, once you

feel bloated, drink some Vit C (Emergen-C), or chew on some fennel seeds, or

if you have fennel tea, better yet. Just a few little tricks I have learned

since dealing with terrible IBS symptoms. Sometimes going for a good walk

also helps, even though it might seem uncomfortable at first.

 

Thanks,

Sharon

 

On 1/18/07, Laurie Bilyeu <lauriebilyeu@ <lauriebilyeu%40verizon.net>

verizon.net> wrote:

>

> Hi Sharon,

> I'm very recently vegan myself. I decided to switch after I read Colin

> Campbell's new book " The China Study " in which he describes his own

> journey

> from his dairy farmer childhood to a vegan lifestyle. He's a nutritional

> biochemist and has been involved in and directed some very impressive

> scientific studies about diet and health. I highly recommend the book--in

> fact, I have to be careful not to annoy my friends by insisting. He'll

> definitely answer your questions about protein. Here's a link:

> http://www.thechina <http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html>

study.com/about.html If you click on the " in the news "

> tab and scroll down, there's a link to a video/lecture of Dr. Campbell

> that

> I really liked.

>

> Basically, his research makes it clear that all the diseases of affluence:

> heart, cancer, arthritis, obesity have a direct correlation to animal

> protein. Eliminating animal protein stops and often reverses the illness,

> or

> just prevents it if you change diet while you're still healthy.

>

> I have questions about the gut reactions to increased fiber as well and

> look

> forward to other responses. I've been very gassy, though today I feel like

> I

> may have turned a corner. I know that any diet change will need an

> adjustment period for the digestive system. I believe you can get plenty

> of

> protein without soy and with very little beans--but you'll need more

> expert

> advice than I can give. All the best.

>

> Laurie

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> Re: Low glycemic recipes also Whole grain

> Gf bread

>

> I am very dairy and gluten intolerant, but still eat lean protein (sorry -

> I

> know some people do not like animal products discussed, or the consumption

> of them mentioned in this group). I know I need protein for muscle

> recovery

> etc. but just don't feel like I can get enough from beans and nuts (plus I

> have IBS, which makes eating beans tough on the tummy). I cannot have soy

> either, I am very allergic to that. I would like to hear from some of you

> why you have ruled out animal products entirely - not so much for ethical

> reasons, but I am interested more on the health front.

>

> I hope this discussion does not irritate those of you who are vegan. But I

> would like to hear more about why people have made that transition. And

> who

> could I possibly get enough protein without evoking an IBS episode.

>

> Thanks,

> Sharon

>

>

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have been vegan for a while. With the help of folks in this group, I have been

gluten free less than a year. There have been a time or two when visiting others

that I have had not much choice as far as food. When I ate meat or poultry I

felt so awful. Bloated, gassy and constipated. Just really miserable. When I eat

vegan and GF I feel great. Nothing hurts. No aches. No pains. No grumpies.

Arthritis is kept at bay. Sinuses have been much better. Haven't so much as a

seizure. Not even a preseizure. I have a lot more energy.

 

My husband eats vegan at home, only because that is all I will cook. He has

gout, arthritis, heart problems, high cholesterol, high blood pressure,

diabetes, is very overweight and takes a ton of medicine. Of course not

exercising does not help his plight any.

 

 

 

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Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:59:06 AM

Re: Low glycemic recipes also Whole grain Gf

bread

 

I am very dairy and gluten intolerant, but still eat lean protein (sorry - I

know some people do not like animal products discussed, or the consumption

of them mentioned in this group). I know I need protein for muscle recovery

etc. but just don't feel like I can get enough from beans and nuts (plus I

have IBS, which makes eating beans tough on the tummy). I cannot have soy

either, I am very allergic to that. I would like to hear from some of you

why you have ruled out animal products entirely - not so much for ethical

reasons, but I am interested more on the health front.

 

I hope this discussion does not irritate those of you who are vegan. But I

would like to hear more about why people have made that transition. And who

could I possibly get enough protein without evoking an IBS episode.

 

Thanks,

Sharon

 

 

On 1/18/07, Angela Boehnen <adboehnen wrote:

>

> Hi-

> I lost 30 lbs in 3 months, and I didn't think I needed to lose weight

> to

> begin with! I did it by becoming vegan and eliminating all refined sugars

> and flours from my diet. Any label that says " high fructose corn syrup "

> is

> diet sabatoge!!! And " low-fat " doesn't mean it is going to help you lose

> weight, especially if it is full of sugar.

> Detoxing also releases toxins from the body, allowing you to rid

> yourself of retained water, etc. I eliminated artifical sweetners and

> other

> food additives to my diet. I also began drinking a lot of water,

> eliminated

> soda from my diet, and started diluting my juice with water.

> I have found some wonderful recipes at www.fatfreevegan.com and

> http://www.all-creatures.org/recipes.html.

> After adjusting my diet as detailed above, I have a lot more energy. I

> am even training for my first marathon in May! I think we get caught in

> energy traps when we eat artifical, processed foods and animal products.

> Also, I am gluten intolerant so gluten has a real downer effect on my

> energy! Make sure you get exercise too!

> Good luck,

> you can do it!!!

> Angie

>

>

>

> Life doesn't give you breathing room, but if you stop grasping for control

> of the uncontrollable, you can learn to breathe through it all.--Chris

> Colin

>

>

>

>

>

> >crystal sacco <benatarfan29

> >

> >

> > Low glycemic recipes also Whole grain Gf

> >bread

> >Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:54:56 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >Hi,

> >

> >

> > Trying to lose a ton of weight here , wondering if anyone has had any

> >success losing large amounts of weight, also if they have any low

> glycemic

> >recipes.

> >

> > Also

> > Is there such a thing has a whole grain tasty gf bread?

> >

> > Thanks

> > crystal

> >

> >

> >www.myspace.com/3sheets2wind

> > www.myspace.com/double_infinity

> > AVON-ISR

> > Campaign 20 catalog:

> > http://original.youravon.com/catalog/2006/20/en/index.html

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, " Sharon Cercone "

<sharon.cercone wrote:

>

> I am very dairy and gluten intolerant, but still eat lean protein

(sorry - I

> know some people do not like animal products discussed, or the

consumption

> of them mentioned in this group). I know I need protein for muscle

recovery

> etc. but just don't feel like I can get enough from beans and nuts

(plus I

> have IBS, which makes eating beans tough on the tummy). I cannot

have soy

> either, I am very allergic to that. I would like to hear from some

of you

> why you have ruled out animal products entirely - not so much for

ethical

> reasons, but I am interested more on the health front.

>

> I hope this discussion does not irritate those of you who are

vegan. But I

> would like to hear more about why people have made that transition.

And who

> could I possibly get enough protein without evoking an IBS episode.

>

> Thanks,

> Sharon

 

For the health reasons for going with a vegan diet, check out all the

medical information on the www.drmcdougall.com website. I've done a

lot of reading about nutrition over the years, and I have concluded

it is the best diet generally and for any number of medical

conditions. Specifically about IBS, Dr. McDougall says:

http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_colitis.html

 

He also has a new book out just about digestion.

 

You can get enough protein from a plant-based diet without the need

to overload yourself with high protein sources like beans, nuts, and

soy. In fact, it is virtually impossible not to get enough protein

assuming you aren't malnourished and aren't surviving on soda and

fruit leathers or something weird like that. If anything, people in

our country get too much protein and disease follows from that:

 

http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_hot_protein.html (and the links

contained therein)

 

It is a fallacy that eating protein builds muscle. Muscle comes from

having sufficient calories in your diet and exercise. Excess protein

just strains your kidneys, leaches calcium out of your bones, etc.

One of the best athletes ever, Carl Lewis, improved his performance

when he switch to McDougalling.

 

In addition to health reasons for a vegan diet, it is also good for

the planet. I recently read that you can reduce carbon emissions

more by switching from a SAD to a vegan diet than you would by a

switch from a SUV to a hybrid. For a discussion of the environmental

issues:

http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2006nl/dec/061200.htm

 

I hope I don't sound too doctrinaire. I am just giving you my POV

plus some reading to do. I don't expect anyone to simply take my

word for anything!

 

For other reading about health issues, check out vegsource.com and

assorted links you will find there. Someone has already mentioned

The China Study. You can also look up the research by Barnard,

Esselstyn, Ornish, and others about the effect of a low fat vegan

diet on assorted diseases. (Don't be swayed by the media's

trumpeting of studies saying " low fat doesn't work. " What they are

calling low fat wasn't!) I recently read Saunders, The Vegan Diet as

Chronic Disease Prevention; it is pretty good but is copyrighted 2003

so doesn't have more recent studies. Dr. McDougall's free

newsletters (archived on the site) often discuss new studies.

 

I hope this at least gives you a place to start your research. Good

luck!

 

DianeR

 

PS Yes, I realize that technically McDougall isn't a vegan diet,

because it doesn't have a problem with honey in that this isn't

either an animal protein or fat.

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for this information, and the links. I feel so stressed

about getting enough protein, and it stems directly from society placing so

much empahsis on it. There are so many mixed messages out there, it is hard

to figure out what is right. I guess it depends on each individual, but it

is good to know that there are plant based sources of adequate protein.

Thank you again, and please continue to share your ideas, knowledge and

experiences!

 

Sharon

 

 

On 1/23/07, hathor42 <rose301 wrote:

>

> --- In

<%40>,

> " Sharon Cercone "

> <sharon.cercone wrote:

> >

> > I am very dairy and gluten intolerant, but still eat lean protein

> (sorry - I

> > know some people do not like animal products discussed, or the

> consumption

> > of them mentioned in this group). I know I need protein for muscle

> recovery

> > etc. but just don't feel like I can get enough from beans and nuts

> (plus I

> > have IBS, which makes eating beans tough on the tummy). I cannot

> have soy

> > either, I am very allergic to that. I would like to hear from some

> of you

> > why you have ruled out animal products entirely - not so much for

> ethical

> > reasons, but I am interested more on the health front.

> >

> > I hope this discussion does not irritate those of you who are

> vegan. But I

> > would like to hear more about why people have made that transition.

> And who

> > could I possibly get enough protein without evoking an IBS episode.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Sharon

>

> For the health reasons for going with a vegan diet, check out all the

> medical information on the www.drmcdougall.com website. I've done a

> lot of reading about nutrition over the years, and I have concluded

> it is the best diet generally and for any number of medical

> conditions. Specifically about IBS, Dr. McDougall says:

> http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_colitis.html

>

> He also has a new book out just about digestion.

>

> You can get enough protein from a plant-based diet without the need

> to overload yourself with high protein sources like beans, nuts, and

> soy. In fact, it is virtually impossible not to get enough protein

> assuming you aren't malnourished and aren't surviving on soda and

> fruit leathers or something weird like that. If anything, people in

> our country get too much protein and disease follows from that:

>

> http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_hot_protein.html (and the links

> contained therein)

>

> It is a fallacy that eating protein builds muscle. Muscle comes from

> having sufficient calories in your diet and exercise. Excess protein

> just strains your kidneys, leaches calcium out of your bones, etc.

> One of the best athletes ever, Carl Lewis, improved his performance

> when he switch to McDougalling.

>

> In addition to health reasons for a vegan diet, it is also good for

> the planet. I recently read that you can reduce carbon emissions

> more by switching from a SAD to a vegan diet than you would by a

> switch from a SUV to a hybrid. For a discussion of the environmental

> issues:

> http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2006nl/dec/061200.htm

>

> I hope I don't sound too doctrinaire. I am just giving you my POV

> plus some reading to do. I don't expect anyone to simply take my

> word for anything!

>

> For other reading about health issues, check out vegsource.com and

> assorted links you will find there. Someone has already mentioned

> The China Study. You can also look up the research by Barnard,

> Esselstyn, Ornish, and others about the effect of a low fat vegan

> diet on assorted diseases. (Don't be swayed by the media's

> trumpeting of studies saying " low fat doesn't work. " What they are

> calling low fat wasn't!) I recently read Saunders, The Vegan Diet as

> Chronic Disease Prevention; it is pretty good but is copyrighted 2003

> so doesn't have more recent studies. Dr. McDougall's free

> newsletters (archived on the site) often discuss new studies.

>

> I hope this at least gives you a place to start your research. Good

> luck!

>

> DianeR

>

> PS Yes, I realize that technically McDougall isn't a vegan diet,

> because it doesn't have a problem with honey in that this isn't

> either an animal protein or fat.

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Crystal when I found out I was a celiac I lost 35 lbs. in only about a month

and wasn't even trying to. I had suffered for so long and had mal-nutriction and

did not know it .I also had had trouble with my weight for most of my life and

was so surprised. After losing the weight and getting all of the toxin gluten

out of my system I also quit having attacks with my Fibromyalgia any more .It

was amazing to lose weight and get rid of the pain of Fibromyalgia. Now I tell

everyone if they have It or they want to lose weight to please try the

gluten-free diet for at least 2 weeks and they will notice the difference and

will feel so much better. I feel that I have a new lease on life..... Good Luck

and May God bless you as he has me. Love and Good wishes Joan