Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to be vegan with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal protein right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so before, but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also doesn't like beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of ham, but we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 favorite legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider here. Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost vegetarian himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for # grams, what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet right now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and eggs, but trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both allergic to dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? Laurie <lbilyeu lbilyeu _____ Give Back <http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJtODVrdTZmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzEEZ3JwSW QDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawNicmFuZARzdGltZQMxMT cwNzE5Mjc5;_ylg=1/SIG=11314uv3k/**http%3A/brand./forgood> for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get <http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJvbnNibDEzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzIEZ3JwSW QDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawN0b29sYmFyBHN0aW1lAz ExNzA3MTkyNzk-;_ylg=1/SIG=11c6dvmk9/**http%3A/toolbar./%3F.cpdl=ygr ps> it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Start </start;_ylc=X3oDMTJvdjFicHBvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzME Z3JwSWQDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawNncm91cHMyBHN0 aW1lAzExNzA3MTkyNzk-> a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=2672282/grpspId=1705016061/msgId =10803/stime=1170719279/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 was there a particular health reason your doc wanted your son to have " plenty of protein " ? is he thinking you should be aiming for the same amount of protein you'd eat on a standard omni diet? best wishes alice On 6 Feb 2007, at 13:16, Laurie Bilyeu wrote: > Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to be > vegan > with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal > protein > right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so > before, > but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of > sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also doesn't > like > beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of > ham, but > we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 > favorite > legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla > quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider > here. > > Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost > vegetarian > himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for # > grams, > what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet > right > now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and > eggs, but > trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both allergic > to > dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. > > Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? > > Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Laurie Have you tried adding just smoked flavour to the beans to see if that is enough of a flavour reminder to help him feel like it still has the ham in it? BL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Hi Laurie, There are heaps of ways to serve beans and lentils, that actually are nothing like beans and lentils. If I tried to feed my kids beans as beans (or lentils as lentils), I would probably have a revolt on my hands. If you look in the files there are heaps of recipes for burgers, loaves, sausages, croquettes, fritters and such, many of which are made with beans or lentils and come out looking and tasting nothing like either. There are a couple of cold cut recipes made with lentils that are really tasty. I even have an icecream recipe in one of my books that uses beans, although I haven't tried it yet. Then there's the grains such quinoa that can be used in a number of ways, again heaps of recipes in the files. I tend to use nuts in moderation (mostly due to the expense), mainly in nut roasts, burgers and gravies, where they often used in conjuction with lentils or seeds. The main thing is to make sure that you provide a wide range of foods. HTH, Kim. , " Laurie Bilyeu " <lauriebilyeu wrote: > > Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to be vegan > with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal protein > right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so before, > but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of > sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also doesn't like > beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of ham, but > we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 favorite > legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla > quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider here. > > > > Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost vegetarian > himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for # grams, > what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet right > now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and eggs, but > trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both allergic to > dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. > > > > Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? > > > > Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Thanks for the tips! They are helpful to many of us. Marlaina http://www.culturalrevolutionary.com/ On Feb 5, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Kim wrote: > Hi Laurie, > > There are heaps of ways to serve beans and lentils, that actually are > nothing like beans and lentils. If I tried to feed my kids beans as > beans (or lentils as lentils), I would probably have a revolt on my > hands. If you look in the files there are heaps of recipes for > burgers, loaves, sausages, croquettes, fritters and such, many of > which are made with beans or lentils and come out looking and tasting > nothing like either. There are a couple of cold cut recipes made with > lentils that are really tasty. I even have an icecream recipe in one > of my books that uses beans, although I haven't tried it yet. > > Then there's the grains such quinoa that can be used in a number of > ways, again heaps of recipes in the files. > > I tend to use nuts in moderation (mostly due to the expense), mainly > in nut roasts, burgers and gravies, where they often used in > conjuction with lentils or seeds. > > The main thing is to make sure that you provide a wide range of foods. > > HTH, > Kim. > > , " Laurie Bilyeu " > <lauriebilyeu wrote: > > > > Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to > be vegan > > with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal > protein > > right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so > before, > > but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of > > sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also > doesn't like > > beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of > ham, but > > we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 > favorite > > legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla > > quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider > here. > > > > > > > > Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost > vegetarian > > himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for > # grams, > > what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet > right > > now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and > eggs, but > > trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both > allergic to > > dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. > > > > > > > > Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? > > > > > > > > Laurie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I've never tried any smoked flavor for anything-can you give me a gf brand that you love to start with? It could work! Laurie <lbilyeu lbilyeu _____ On Behalf Of Brenda-Lee Olson Monday, February 05, 2007 9:09 PM Re: Children with allergies and veganism Laurie Have you tried adding just smoked flavour to the beans to see if that is enough of a flavour reminder to help him feel like it still has the ham in it? BL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Yes, he has a chronic fatigue problem that we're trying to sort out. We have a whole new round of supplements and other support (adrenal, etc.). But I should have asked for a more clear protein goal-I'll call tomorrow and get it. (We've both been gluten and dairy free for the past year. Some things are better, especially for me, but he is dragging more and more it seems.) Laurie <lbilyeu lbilyeu _____ On Behalf Of Alice Leonard Monday, February 05, 2007 8:57 PM Re: Children with allergies and veganism * was there a particular health reason your doc wanted your son to have " plenty of protein " ? is he thinking you should be aiming for the same amount of protein you'd eat on a standard omni diet? best wishes alice New </members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcj NwMm1kBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NzIyODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwN2dG wEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzExNzA3MjgyOTM-> Members * 3 New </files;_ylc=X3oDMTJnbThr MjB2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NzIyODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwN2dGwE c2xrA3ZmaWxlcwRzdGltZQMxMTcwNzI4Mjkz> Files Visit <;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYmpndjIwBF 9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NzIyODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3 ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE3MDcyODI5Mw--> Your Group Photos Order <http://us.ard./SIG=12igcfpm3/M=493064.9803230.10510224.8674578/D=g roups/S=1705016061:NC/Y=/EXP=1170735493/A=3848633/R=0/SIG=10p8tommg/*ht tp:/photos.> Online Pick up at Target Start now Y! GeoCities Share <http://us.ard./SIG=12ibu60uc/M=493064.9803219.10510212.8674578/D=g roups/S=1705016061:NC/Y=/EXP=1170735493/A=3848528/R=0/SIG=11vts2tqq/*ht tp:/us.rd./evt=42416/*http:/geocities./> Photos Put your favorite photos online. Start </start;_ylc=X3oDMTJvZTA0NW40BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzME Z3JwSWQDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawNncm91cHMyBHN0 aW1lAzExNzA3MjgyOTM-> a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=2672282/grpspId=1705016061/msgId =10817/stime=1170728293/nc1=3848633/nc2=3848528/nc3=3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Thanks, I will check them. We do use grains, but he has an aversion to quinoa (sigh). I eat it myself a couple of times a week for breakfast. He does eat brown rice and some others. Unfortunately, though grains contain some of the essential amino acids, the total protein content is not very high. Laurie <lbilyeu lbilyeu _____ On Behalf Of Kim Monday, February 05, 2007 9:11 PM Re: Children with allergies and veganism Hi Laurie, There are heaps of ways to serve beans and lentils, that actually are nothing like beans and lentils. If I tried to feed my kids beans as beans (or lentils as lentils), I would probably have a revolt on my hands. If you look in the files there are heaps of recipes for burgers, loaves, sausages, croquettes, fritters and such, many of which are made with beans or lentils and come out looking and tasting nothing like either. There are a couple of cold cut recipes made with lentils that are really tasty. I even have an icecream recipe in one of my books that uses beans, although I haven't tried it yet. Then there's the grains such quinoa that can be used in a number of ways, again heaps of recipes in the files. I tend to use nuts in moderation (mostly due to the expense), mainly in nut roasts, burgers and gravies, where they often used in conjuction with lentils or seeds. The main thing is to make sure that you provide a wide range of foods. HTH, Kim. Vegan-and-Gluten- <%40> Free , " Laurie Bilyeu " <lauriebilyeu wrote: > > Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to be vegan > with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal protein > right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so before, > but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of > sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also doesn't like > beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of ham, but > we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 favorite > legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla > quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider here. > > > > Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost vegetarian > himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for # grams, > what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet right > now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and eggs, but > trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both allergic to > dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. > > > > Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? > > > > Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 In reference to the question about making beans more palatable: I suggest the use of spices. Good ones for many beans are chili powder, cumin, paprika, hot sauce, liquid smoke (in the regular grocery store, right next to the Lea and Perrins) and veggie stock. I also dumped a whole jar of salsa into my beans once, because I did not have anything else. Other options are to puree beans and put them into soups. Or you can add them to other sauces and foods (like marinara sauce). If your son does not have to avoid gluten, you can also try the meat substitutes as a temporary bridge to veganism. Best of luck! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 He's gf also, but thanks for your suggestions. They do help. And he does like the couple of gf/soy free veggie burgers I've found. Laurie <lbilyeu lbilyeu _____ On Behalf Of drbhare Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:07 PM Re: Children with allergies and veganism In reference to the question about making beans more palatable: I suggest the use of spices. Good ones for many beans are chili powder, cumin, paprika, hot sauce, liquid smoke (in the regular grocery store, right next to the Lea and Perrins) and veggie stock. I also dumped a whole jar of salsa into my beans once, because I did not have anything else. Other options are to puree beans and put them into soups. Or you can add them to other sauces and foods (like marinara sauce). If your son does not have to avoid gluten, you can also try the meat substitutes as a temporary bridge to veganism. Best of luck! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 You can use quinoa flakes in burgers and the like as you would normally use bread crumbs. So quinoa without it being quinoa and the benefit of an additional source of protein. Kim , " Laurie Bilyeu " <lauriebilyeu wrote: > > Thanks, I will check them. We do use grains, but he has an aversion to > quinoa (sigh). I eat it myself a couple of times a week for breakfast. He > does eat brown rice and some others. Unfortunately, though grains contain > some of the essential amino acids, the total protein content is not very > high. > > > > Laurie > > <lbilyeu lbilyeu > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Kim > Monday, February 05, 2007 9:11 PM > > Re: Children with allergies and veganism > > > > Hi Laurie, > > There are heaps of ways to serve beans and lentils, that actually are > nothing like beans and lentils. If I tried to feed my kids beans as > beans (or lentils as lentils), I would probably have a revolt on my > hands. If you look in the files there are heaps of recipes for > burgers, loaves, sausages, croquettes, fritters and such, many of > which are made with beans or lentils and come out looking and tasting > nothing like either. There are a couple of cold cut recipes made with > lentils that are really tasty. I even have an icecream recipe in one > of my books that uses beans, although I haven't tried it yet. > > Then there's the grains such quinoa that can be used in a number of > ways, again heaps of recipes in the files. > > I tend to use nuts in moderation (mostly due to the expense), mainly > in nut roasts, burgers and gravies, where they often used in > conjuction with lentils or seeds. > > The main thing is to make sure that you provide a wide range of foods. > > HTH, > Kim. > > Vegan-and-Gluten- <%40> > Free , " Laurie Bilyeu " > <lauriebilyeu@> wrote: > > > > Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to > be vegan > > with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal > protein > > right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so > before, > > but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of > > sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also doesn't like > > beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of > ham, but > > we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 > favorite > > legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla > > quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider here. > > > > > > > > Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost vegetarian > > himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for > # grams, > > what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet > right > > now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and > eggs, but > > trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both allergic to > > dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. > > > > > > > > Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? > > > > > > > > Laurie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 That's so brilliant! I have some, too. I hadn't thought of quinoa flakes as bread crumbs-does it work to coat stuff with it for baking? I'm thinking, breaded zucchini. What else can I hide that in? I put it in our favorite multi-grain scones sometimes. Hey! I'll make those tomorrow! Laurie <lbilyeu lbilyeu _____ On Behalf Of Kim Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:29 PM Re: Children with allergies and veganism You can use quinoa flakes in burgers and the like as you would normally use bread crumbs. So quinoa without it being quinoa and the benefit of an additional source of protein. Kim Vegan-and-Gluten- <%40> Free , " Laurie Bilyeu " <lauriebilyeu wrote: > > Thanks, I will check them. We do use grains, but he has an aversion to > quinoa (sigh). I eat it myself a couple of times a week for breakfast. He > does eat brown rice and some others. Unfortunately, though grains contain > some of the essential amino acids, the total protein content is not very > high. > > > > Laurie > > <lbilyeu lbilyeu > > _____ > > Vegan-and-Gluten- <%40> Free > [Vegan-and-Gluten- <%40> Free ] On Behalf Of Kim > Monday, February 05, 2007 9:11 PM > Vegan-and-Gluten- <%40> Free > Re: Children with allergies and veganism > > > > Hi Laurie, > > There are heaps of ways to serve beans and lentils, that actually are > nothing like beans and lentils. If I tried to feed my kids beans as > beans (or lentils as lentils), I would probably have a revolt on my > hands. If you look in the files there are heaps of recipes for > burgers, loaves, sausages, croquettes, fritters and such, many of > which are made with beans or lentils and come out looking and tasting > nothing like either. There are a couple of cold cut recipes made with > lentils that are really tasty. I even have an icecream recipe in one > of my books that uses beans, although I haven't tried it yet. > > Then there's the grains such quinoa that can be used in a number of > ways, again heaps of recipes in the files. > > I tend to use nuts in moderation (mostly due to the expense), mainly > in nut roasts, burgers and gravies, where they often used in > conjuction with lentils or seeds. > > The main thing is to make sure that you provide a wide range of foods. > > HTH, > Kim. > > Vegan-and-Gluten- <%40> > Free (AT) (DOT) <Free%40> com, " Laurie Bilyeu " > <lauriebilyeu@> wrote: > > > > Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to > be vegan > > with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal > protein > > right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so > before, > > but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of > > sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also doesn't like > > beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of > ham, but > > we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 > favorite > > legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla > > quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider here. > > > > > > > > Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost vegetarian > > himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for > # grams, > > what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet > right > > now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and > eggs, but > > trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both allergic to > > dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. > > > > > > > > Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? > > > > > > > > Laurie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Awesome tip. I'm crazy about quinoa and have a jar of the flakes which I use in the millet loaf recipe I found here in the files (love it). Thanks! , " Kim " <bearhouse5 wrote: > > You can use quinoa flakes in burgers and the like as you would > normally use bread crumbs. So quinoa without it being quinoa and the > benefit of an additional source of protein. > > Kim > > > > , " Laurie Bilyeu " > <lauriebilyeu@> wrote: > > > > Thanks, I will check them. We do use grains, but he has an aversion to > > quinoa (sigh). I eat it myself a couple of times a week for > breakfast. He > > does eat brown rice and some others. Unfortunately, though grains > contain > > some of the essential amino acids, the total protein content is not very > > high. > > > > > > > > Laurie > > > > <lbilyeu@> lbilyeu@ > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kim > > Monday, February 05, 2007 9:11 PM > > > > Re: Children with allergies and > veganism > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie, > > > > There are heaps of ways to serve beans and lentils, that actually are > > nothing like beans and lentils. If I tried to feed my kids beans as > > beans (or lentils as lentils), I would probably have a revolt on my > > hands. If you look in the files there are heaps of recipes for > > burgers, loaves, sausages, croquettes, fritters and such, many of > > which are made with beans or lentils and come out looking and tasting > > nothing like either. There are a couple of cold cut recipes made with > > lentils that are really tasty. I even have an icecream recipe in one > > of my books that uses beans, although I haven't tried it yet. > > > > Then there's the grains such quinoa that can be used in a number of > > ways, again heaps of recipes in the files. > > > > I tend to use nuts in moderation (mostly due to the expense), mainly > > in nut roasts, burgers and gravies, where they often used in > > conjuction with lentils or seeds. > > > > The main thing is to make sure that you provide a wide range of foods. > > > > HTH, > > Kim. > > > > Vegan-and-Gluten- > <%40> > > Free , " Laurie Bilyeu " > > <lauriebilyeu@> wrote: > > > > > > Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to > > be vegan > > > with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal > > protein > > > right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so > > before, > > > but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of > > > sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also > doesn't like > > > beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of > > ham, but > > > we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 > > favorite > > > legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla > > > quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost > vegetarian > > > himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for > > # grams, > > > what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet > > right > > > now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and > > eggs, but > > > trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both > allergic to > > > dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. > > > > > > > > > > > > Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? > > > > > > > > > > > > Laurie > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Hi Laurie, I honestly couldn't tell you if it would work for crumbing. If you try it I'm sure we would all like to know. As for other uses, there are quite a few cookie recipes in the files that use quiona flakes instead of oats. I do have to admit that I don't use them much as they are too expensive here in Australia when trying to feed a largish family of big eaters Kim , " Laurie Bilyeu " <lauriebilyeu wrote: > > That's so brilliant! I have some, too. I hadn't thought of quinoa flakes as > bread crumbs-does it work to coat stuff with it for baking? I'm thinking, > breaded zucchini. What else can I hide that in? I put it in our favorite > multi-grain scones sometimes. Hey! I'll make those tomorrow! > > > > Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 One more thought for you Laurie. Are you lactose intolerant or casein intolerant or both? Since you have eggs, chicken & buffalo in the diet, you may consider cutting out one the meat sources and replacing with homemade yogurt. If you ferment your yogurt for 24 hours it changes the lactose to galactose which most lactose intolerant persons can tolerate and it denatures the casein to a lower ph making the protein digestible for those who are casein sensitive. Can be made with cow or goat, though goat is thought to be more quickly & easily digested. More info here: http://www.pecanbread.com/goatyogurt.html Blessings, Azalyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 We're allergic to casein. Bummer. Laurie <lbilyeu lbilyeu _____ On Behalf Of Azalyne Rae Skye Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:32 PM Re: Children with allergies and veganism One more thought for you Laurie. Are you lactose intolerant or casein intolerant or both? Since you have eggs, chicken & buffalo in the diet, you may consider cutting out one the meat sources and replacing with homemade yogurt. If you ferment your yogurt for 24 hours it changes the lactose to galactose which most lactose intolerant persons can tolerate and it denatures the casein to a lower ph making the protein digestible for those who are casein sensitive. Can be made with cow or goat, though goat is thought to be more quickly & easily digested. More info here: http://www.pecanbre <http://www.pecanbread.com/goatyogurt.html> ad.com/goatyogurt.html Blessings, Azalyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Hi Laurie, I'm raising three veggie kids with allergies. My oldest is GF/CF and my youngest is GF/CF and corn free. She is sensitive to the texture of many foods so that rules some things out for us too. One surprizing thing she loves is chickpeas. They have a creamy texture that is different than many beans, in my opinion. I steam them for a few minutes straight out of the jar and then toss them with some lemon juice and olive oil. I serve it with brown rice and some fresh chopped veggies. She is such a picky eater that it still surprizes me everyday when she eats it but she loves it . Another trick is popcicles. They are my old standby for anything I want the kids to have that they won't eat. Throw whatever fruit and juices or diary free milk that your son likes into the blender. You can add protein supplements and vitamins. I put flax oil in too. Freeze them in popcicles makers that you can get at any Target, Walmart, etc. I can't keep them in stock at my house. The kids eat them instaed of junk after school and I know they are getting more nutrition than they would ever eat willinginly. Renee S. > > Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to be vegan > with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal protein > right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so before, > but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of > sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also doesn't like > beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of ham, but > we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 favorite > legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla > quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider here. > > > > Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost vegetarian > himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for # grams, > what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet right > now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and eggs, but > trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both allergic to > dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. > > > > Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? > > > > Laurie > > <lbilyeu lbilyeu > > _____ > > Give Back > > > <http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJtODVrdTZmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzEE Z3JwSW > QDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawNicmFuZARzdGlt ZQMxMT > cwNzE5Mjc5;_ylg=1/SIG=11314uv3k/**http%3A/brand./forgood> for Good > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > > Y! Toolbar > > Get > <http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJvbnNibDEzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzIE Z3JwSW > QDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawN0b29sYmFyBHN0 aW1lAz > ExNzA3MTkyNzk-;_ylg=1/SIG=11c6dvmk9/**http%3A/toolbar./% 3F.cpdl=ygr > ps> it Free! > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > > Start > </start;_ylc=X3oDMTJvdjFicHBvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF 9wAzME > Z3JwSWQDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawNncm91cH MyBHN0 > aW1lAzExNzA3MTkyNzk-> a group > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > > . > > > <http://geo./serv? s=97359714/grpId=2672282/grpspId=1705016061/msgId > =10803/stime=1170719279/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Gosh, it's hard to argue with a kid who likes chickpeas, isn't it??? I hope she like hummus also-there's a whole world of possibilities there! No luck with that bean here. I do hide nutrients, especially flax oil, in smoothies. It's way too cold here in New England to contemplate popsicles, but I'll start those again when it warms up. I wonder if I still have the molds. we used to make them all the time. I'm sure my creative child could come up with some amazing combinations. Thanks for the suggestion. Actually, I have some rice protein in the cupboard. I might slide it into a smoothie or some muffins or something. Thanks for your help Laurie <lbilyeu lbilyeu _____ On Behalf Of renee2323 Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:51 AM Re: Children with allergies and veganism Hi Laurie, I'm raising three veggie kids with allergies. My oldest is GF/CF and my youngest is GF/CF and corn free. She is sensitive to the texture of many foods so that rules some things out for us too. One surprizing thing she loves is chickpeas. They have a creamy texture that is different than many beans, in my opinion. I steam them for a few minutes straight out of the jar and then toss them with some lemon juice and olive oil. I serve it with brown rice and some fresh chopped veggies. She is such a picky eater that it still surprizes me everyday when she eats it but she loves it . Another trick is popcicles. They are my old standby for anything I want the kids to have that they won't eat. Throw whatever fruit and juices or diary free milk that your son likes into the blender. You can add protein supplements and vitamins. I put flax oil in too. Freeze them in popcicles makers that you can get at any Target, Walmart, etc. I can't keep them in stock at my house. The kids eat them instaed of junk after school and I know they are getting more nutrition than they would ever eat willinginly. Renee S. > > Maybe you all have some ideas on this one. My 14 year old wanted to be vegan > with me, but we have some problems. (We started eliminating animal protein > right after xmas) He does seem to be sensitive to soy-he's tested so before, > but we hoped it was one of those " eliminate it for a while " kinds of > sensitivities. I can't argue with the stomach pain. He also doesn't like > beans much. He used to eat them when they were cooked with lots of ham, but > we're not doing that anymore! He'll eat lentils and peas in our 3-4 favorite > legume recipes and he'll eat Amy's refried beans in a corn tortilla > quesadilla. Nuts are good, but we have our waistlines to consider here. > > > > Doctor, who is a fabulous integrative med doc (and an almost vegetarian > himself) wants him to have plenty of protein (hmm, I didn't ask for # grams, > what a bad nutrition student I am!) and is worried that a vegan diet right > now isn't a good idea. So I'm giving him chicken and buffalo and eggs, but > trying to offer as many vegan meals as possible. We're both allergic to > dairy, so that's not an option anyway, nor do we like seafood much. > > > > Any bright ideas about what to offer that I might have overlooked? > > > > Laurie > > <lbilyeu lbilyeu > > _____ > > Give Back > > > <http://us.lrd. <http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJtODVrdTZmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzEE> /_ylc=X3oDMTJtODVrdTZmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzEE Z3JwSW > QDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawNicmFuZARzdGlt ZQMxMT > cwNzE5Mjc5;_ylg=1/SIG=11314uv3k/**http%3A/brand./forgood> for Good > > Get inspired > > by a good cause. > > Y! Toolbar > > Get > <http://us.lrd. <http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJvbnNibDEzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzIE> /_ylc=X3oDMTJvbnNibDEzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzIE Z3JwSW > QDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawN0b29sYmFyBHN0 aW1lAz > ExNzA3MTkyNzk-;_ylg=1/SIG=11c6dvmk9/**http%3A/toolbar./% 3F.cpdl=ygr > ps> it Free! > > easy 1-click access > > to your groups. > > > > Start > <http://groups. </start;_ylc=X3oDMTJvdjFicHBvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF> /start;_ylc=X3oDMTJvdjFicHBvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF 9wAzME > Z3JwSWQDMjY3MjI4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwMTYwNjEEc2VjA25jbW9kBHNsawNncm91cH MyBHN0 > aW1lAzExNzA3MTkyNzk-> a group > > in 3 easy steps. > > Connect with others. > > . > > > <http://geo.. <http://geo./serv?> com/serv? s=97359714/grpId=2672282/grpspId=1705016061/msgId > =10803/stime=1170719279/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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