Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Hi Niki; Is your daughter quite slim? When I added hemp hearts (some call them hemp nuts) to my daughters diet she stopped bed-wetting. She had to eat a teaspoon a day. It helped for her. ~Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 The story of my daughter is long and complicated. She's extremely tiny for her age: 5th percentile for height and way under weight. I believe at her last check a couple weeks ago she was 42 inches tall and 36 lbs. She is 6 1/2. We've done various tests on her and nothing has come back conclusive. Tons of odd symptoms just none that point to one thing: probably has Asperger's syndrome, but instead of the high pain tolerance of most those kids she is overly sensitive. Complains of headaches, joint pain, blury vision, and stomach aches, the bed wetting and very hyper. Especially in the winter when we can't get out she's goes crazy. I bought a mini trampouline to put in the living room for her just so she has something to jump on besides my couches. Doctor says it's got to be nutrionally based and put her on protein shakes. I can't understand that when it's not protein that is her issue (it isn't for any american that I know of) Nutritionist says diet looks great just try to get her to eat more... If I fed her anymore the rest of my kids would end up fat. As it is she's eating every 2 hours and constantly hungry. We've tried cleansing with no success (thinking parasite). I've just about given up I don't know what else to try or do. Although the bedwetting is bothersome (and she has frequent accidents during the day) I feel there is an overall issued and I can't pin point it. When we went gluten free last summer she jumped up in weight by 5 pounds but hasn't gained an ounce since then. We went casien free in part but not strict shortly after. My husband isn't supportive of any of this so I can't do anything to the extreme but I'm willing to try anything. Sorry for the ramble. Niki candocook <candocook wrote: Hi Niki; Is your daughter quite slim? When I added hemp hearts (some call them hemp nuts) to my daughters diet she stopped bed-wetting. She had to eat a teaspoon a day. It helped for her. ~Gail Nicole Hermenitt HSP, CCBW, VP/LS, CFO, DHD, AE, CCJ (269)687-9180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Have you considered chiropractic therapy? When my son was that age, the chiropractor showed us how compression of a disk in the lower back could press the nerve that leads from the bladder, blocking signals. We also found dairy was a killer for his night time problems but since you posted to the vegan list I assumed your were dairy free. Soy has a molecular structure very similar to casein though, so it sometimes causes similar problems If you believe she is ASD, do you have her gluten and dairy free? I suggest Dr. Doris Rapp for you to read. She has a website, but her book Is This Your Child, might prove really helpful. BL On 2/14/07, Nicole Hermenitt <hermenitt0310 wrote: > > The story of my daughter is long and complicated. She's extremely tiny > for her age: 5th percentile for height and way under weight. I believe at > her last check a couple weeks ago she was 42 inches tall and 36 lbs. She is > 6 1/2. We've done various tests on her and nothing has come back conclusive. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 This sounds a lot like phenol intolerance. Some of us don't properly process phenol compounds, the deep colored plant pigments that taste so good and have all the antioxidants. Hyperactivity and bedwetting are two common symptoms. Another is that it gets worse in winter: the liver makes less of the enzyme the breaks down the phenols (phenol sulfertransferase or PST) in winter. Why? Because all those deep-colored fruits and veggies that contain the phenols grow in summer, not winter. Until very recently, it was impossible to eat strawberries in winter. But I digress. The more sun she gets, the more PST she makes, and the less the symptoms. Besides sunshine (including full spectrum lights at home), there are two other things you can do: Epsom salts baths and enzymes. Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) provide the co-factors needed for PST to do its job. You can also buy an Epsom salts cream http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/minerals/magnesium/Mag_Sulf_Cream_Spec225.ht\ ml for when it's inconvenient to take a bath. When my son is bouncing off the ceiling, I can rub the cream on his back and then count the minutes (10) till he's back to normal. Enzymes: two companies make enzymes that break down the phenol compounds so they don't cause the reactions. With the enzymes, many kids can eat high phenol foods without symptoms. http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/enzymes/phenol/phenol_bp835.html http://houstonzymes.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=hni01 & Category_C\ ode=nof Doing these things (along with GFCF) helped my 7yo who had never had a dry night to be dry every night. Good luck! If you try any of this, let us know what happens. (You can also try having some no-casein days and see what happens that night. Casein is a frequent culprit in bedwetting.) Laura G. Nicole Hermenitt wrote: > The story of my daughter is long and complicated. She's extremely tiny > for her age: 5th percentile for height and way under weight. I believe > at her last check a couple weeks ago she was 42 inches tall and 36 > lbs. She is 6 1/2. We've done various tests on her and nothing has > come back conclusive. Tons of odd symptoms just none that point to one > thing: probably has Asperger's syndrome, but instead of the high pain > tolerance of most those kids she is overly sensitive. Complains of > headaches, joint pain, blury vision, and stomach aches, the bed > wetting and very hyper. Especially in the winter when we can't get out > she's goes crazy. I bought a mini trampouline to put in the living > room for her just so she has something to jump on besides my couches. > Doctor says it's got to be nutrionally based and put her on protein > shakes. I can't understand that when it's not protein that is her > issue (it isn't for any american that I know of) Nutritionist says > diet looks great just > try to get her to eat more... If I fed her anymore the rest of my kids > would end up fat. As it is she's eating every 2 hours and constantly > hungry. We've tried cleansing with no success (thinking parasite). > I've just about given up I don't know what else to try or do. Although > the bedwetting is bothersome (and she has frequent accidents during > the day) I feel there is an overall issued and I can't pin point it. > When we went gluten free last summer she jumped up in weight by 5 > pounds but hasn't gained an ounce since then. We went casien free in > part but not strict shortly after. My husband isn't supportive of any > of this so I can't do anything to the extreme but I'm willing to try > anything. > Sorry for the ramble. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Hi Niki. What a trial! That must be so hard for you guys. Have you tried a naturopath? A food and behaviour log (to look for correlations)? I don't have many ideas, but I do have a lot of faith in naturopathic doctors. Good luck! Shannon At 06:20 PM 2/14/2007, you wrote: >The story of my daughter is long and complicated. She's extremely >tiny for her age: 5th percentile for height and way under weight. I >believe at her last check a couple weeks ago she was 42 inches tall >and 36 lbs. She is 6 1/2. We've done various tests on her and >nothing has come back conclusive. Tons of odd symptoms just none >that point to one thing: probably has Asperger's syndrome, but >instead of the high pain tolerance of most those kids she is overly >sensitive. Complains of headaches, joint pain, blury vision, and >stomach aches, the bed wetting and very hyper. Especially in the >winter when we can't get out she's goes crazy. I bought a mini >trampouline to put in the living room for her just so she has >something to jump on besides my couches. Doctor says it's got to be >nutrionally based and put her on protein shakes. I can't understand >that when it's not protein that is her issue (it isn't for any >american that I know of) Nutritionist says diet looks great just >try to get her to eat more... If I fed her anymore the rest of my >kids would end up fat. As it is she's eating every 2 hours and >constantly hungry. We've tried cleansing with no success (thinking >parasite). I've just about given up I don't know what else to try or >do. Although the bedwetting is bothersome (and she has frequent >accidents during the day) I feel there is an overall issued and I >can't pin point it. When we went gluten free last summer she jumped >up in weight by 5 pounds but hasn't gained an ounce since then. We >went casien free in part but not strict shortly after. My husband >isn't supportive of any of this so I can't do anything to the >extreme but I'm willing to try anything. >Sorry for the ramble. > >Niki -- Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release 2/15/2007 5:40 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Hi Niki, Don't worry about the rambling. It is the only way to untangle the web of problems an ASD kid can have. My 13 yr old son has Asperger's. It is not necessarily true that ASD kids have high pain tolerance. It can be just the opposite -very low pain tolerance, or a combination of both. My son would scream in pain at a small splinter (he once had one in his knee for a week that became infected because he could stand for anyone to touch it. I eventually removed it little by little while he slept.). A great book to read is The Out Of Sync Child by Carol Stock Kranowitz. It can really help you get a handle on the sensory issues and what to do about them. Most doctors really don't have a clue about it so it helps if you do. Regarding the other issues it sounds like your child is having gut issues and is not absorbing nutrition from his food. Most, if not all, ASD issues have gut issues. Getting the offending foods out of her diet can really help. I suspect that is why she gained some weight after going off gluten. It is worth trying to get rid of the casein too to see if she improves. My youngest has gut issues too. She improved after we removed gluten, dairy and corn. She too is only in the 5th percentile for height but she is beginning to grow now that her gut is healing. It took about four months but she is finally out growing clothes she has been wearing for two years. Even though you are feeding her healthy food you really need to be vigilant about getting her to eat the right kinds of healthy foods in the right amounts. Easier said than done, I know . I am sorry to hear that you don't have much support. That is so hard to deal with especially since the diet is so expensive and it can take a while to see results. Just remind yourself that if six months or a year go by and she hasn't improved than no harm has been done but if she is better than it will all have been worth it. Can you get to a DAN doctor for some support? It really does help to have someone on your side. Special Diets for Special Kids if a great book to read as is Children with Starving Brains. Dana's view is a great resource and she and other parents are there to help on the GFCFkids group http://www.danasview.net/. Good Luck. Feel free to email me whenever you need to ramble . Renee S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Full spectrum bulbs can help make PST? Is there any particular brand you recommend? I have a Verilux Happy light and I try to get the kids to sit in front of it each day. I'm not sure it is helping. All three have started wetting the bed this month. It seems like a lot of bulbs are being called full spectrum these days even the Reveal or Daylight bulbs which I like but are not the same thing. My kids can't do the No-Phenol enzymes because they contain corn and my daughter has eczema so I try to limit epsom salts. If the bulbs work that could really help us out. All the laundry is driving me crazy. Thanks. Renee S. > This sounds a lot like phenol intolerance. Some of us don't properly > process phenol compounds, the deep colored plant pigments that taste so > good and have all the antioxidants. Hyperactivity and bedwetting are two > common symptoms. Another is that it gets worse in winter: the liver > makes less of the enzyme the breaks down the phenols (phenol > sulfertransferase or PST) in winter. Why? Because all those deep- colored > fruits and veggies that contain the phenols grow in summer, not winter. > Until very recently, it was impossible to eat strawberries in winter. > But I digress. The more sun she gets, the more PST she makes, and the > less the symptoms. > > Besides sunshine (including full spectrum lights at home), there are two > other things you can do: Epsom salts baths and enzymes. Epsom salts > (magnesium sulfate) provide the co-factors needed for PST to do its job. > You can also buy an Epsom salts cream > > > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/minerals/magnesium/Mag_Sulf_Cream_ Spec225.html > > for when it's inconvenient to take a bath. When my son is bouncing off > the ceiling, I can rub the cream on his back and then count the minutes > (10) till he's back to normal. > > Enzymes: two companies make enzymes that break down the phenol compounds > so they don't cause the reactions. With the enzymes, many kids can eat > high phenol foods without symptoms. > > > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/enzymes/phenol/phenol_bp835.html > > http://houstonzymes.com/mm5/merchant.mvc? Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=hni01 & Category_Code=nof > > Doing these things (along with GFCF) helped my 7yo who had never had a > dry night to be dry every night. > > Good luck! If you try any of this, let us know what happens. > > (You can also try having some no-casein days and see what happens that > night. Casein is a frequent culprit in bedwetting.) > > Laura G. > > Nicole Hermenitt wrote: > > > The story of my daughter is long and complicated. She's extremely tiny > > for her age: 5th percentile for height and way under weight. I believe > > at her last check a couple weeks ago she was 42 inches tall and 36 > > lbs. She is 6 1/2. We've done various tests on her and nothing has > > come back conclusive. Tons of odd symptoms just none that point to one > > thing: probably has Asperger's syndrome, but instead of the high pain > > tolerance of most those kids she is overly sensitive. Complains of > > headaches, joint pain, blury vision, and stomach aches, the bed > > wetting and very hyper. Especially in the winter when we can't get out > > she's goes crazy. I bought a mini trampouline to put in the living > > room for her just so she has something to jump on besides my couches. > > Doctor says it's got to be nutrionally based and put her on protein > > shakes. I can't understand that when it's not protein that is her > > issue (it isn't for any american that I know of) Nutritionist says > > diet looks great just > > try to get her to eat more... If I fed her anymore the rest of my kids > > would end up fat. As it is she's eating every 2 hours and constantly > > hungry. We've tried cleansing with no success (thinking parasite). > > I've just about given up I don't know what else to try or do. Although > > the bedwetting is bothersome (and she has frequent accidents during > > the day) I feel there is an overall issued and I can't pin point it. > > When we went gluten free last summer she jumped up in weight by 5 > > pounds but hasn't gained an ounce since then. We went casien free in > > part but not strict shortly after. My husband isn't supportive of any > > of this so I can't do anything to the extreme but I'm willing to try > > anything. > > Sorry for the ramble. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 This is a helpful conversation for me. I'd tried the Houston enzymes a few years ago for my son and saw some real improvement. Now I can't remember why we stopped. What I'm wondering tonight is how different those enzymes are from other enzymes I can buy-just now I have one from Rainbow Light that has a full range of enzymes and some herbal supports as well. What do you all know? Laurie <lbilyeu lbilyeu _____ On Behalf Of renee2323 Friday, February 16, 2007 9:27 PM Re: bedwetting Full spectrum bulbs can help make PST? Is there any particular brand you recommend? I have a Verilux Happy light and I try to get the kids to sit in front of it each day. I'm not sure it is helping. All three have started wetting the bed this month. It seems like a lot of bulbs are being called full spectrum these days even the Reveal or Daylight bulbs which I like but are not the same thing. My kids can't do the No-Phenol enzymes because they contain corn and my daughter has eczema so I try to limit epsom salts. If the bulbs work that could really help us out. All the laundry is driving me crazy. Thanks. Renee S. > This sounds a lot like phenol intolerance. Some of us don't properly > process phenol compounds, the deep colored plant pigments that taste so > good and have all the antioxidants. Hyperactivity and bedwetting are two > common symptoms. Another is that it gets worse in winter: the liver > makes less of the enzyme the breaks down the phenols (phenol > sulfertransferase or PST) in winter. Why? Because all those deep- colored > fruits and veggies that contain the phenols grow in summer, not winter. > Until very recently, it was impossible to eat strawberries in winter. > But I digress. The more sun she gets, the more PST she makes, and the > less the symptoms. > > Besides sunshine (including full spectrum lights at home), there are two > other things you can do: Epsom salts baths and enzymes. Epsom salts > (magnesium sulfate) provide the co-factors needed for PST to do its job. > You can also buy an Epsom salts cream > > > http://www.kirkmanl <http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/minerals/magnesium/Mag_Sulf_Cream_> abs.com/products/minerals/magnesium/Mag_Sulf_Cream_ Spec225.html > > for when it's inconvenient to take a bath. When my son is bouncing off > the ceiling, I can rub the cream on his back and then count the minutes > (10) till he's back to normal. > > Enzymes: two companies make enzymes that break down the phenol compounds > so they don't cause the reactions. With the enzymes, many kids can eat > high phenol foods without symptoms. > > > http://www.kirkmanl <http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/enzymes/phenol/phenol_bp835.html> abs.com/products/enzymes/phenol/phenol_bp835.html > > http://houstonzymes <http://houstonzymes.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?> ..com/mm5/merchant.mvc? Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=hni01 & Category_Code=nof > > Doing these things (along with GFCF) helped my 7yo who had never had a > dry night to be dry every night. > > Good luck! If you try any of this, let us know what happens. > > (You can also try having some no-casein days and see what happens that > night. Casein is a frequent culprit in bedwetting.) > > Laura G. > > Nicole Hermenitt wrote: > > > The story of my daughter is long and complicated. She's extremely tiny > > for her age: 5th percentile for height and way under weight. I believe > > at her last check a couple weeks ago she was 42 inches tall and 36 > > lbs. She is 6 1/2. We've done various tests on her and nothing has > > come back conclusive. Tons of odd symptoms just none that point to one > > thing: probably has Asperger's syndrome, but instead of the high pain > > tolerance of most those kids she is overly sensitive. Complains of > > headaches, joint pain, blury vision, and stomach aches, the bed > > wetting and very hyper. Especially in the winter when we can't get out > > she's goes crazy. I bought a mini trampouline to put in the living > > room for her just so she has something to jump on besides my couches. > > Doctor says it's got to be nutrionally based and put her on protein > > shakes. I can't understand that when it's not protein that is her > > issue (it isn't for any american that I know of) Nutritionist says > > diet looks great just > > try to get her to eat more... If I fed her anymore the rest of my kids > > would end up fat. As it is she's eating every 2 hours and constantly > > hungry. We've tried cleansing with no success (thinking parasite). > > I've just about given up I don't know what else to try or do. Although > > the bedwetting is bothersome (and she has frequent accidents during > > the day) I feel there is an overall issued and I can't pin point it. > > When we went gluten free last summer she jumped up in weight by 5 > > pounds but hasn't gained an ounce since then. We went casien free in > > part but not strict shortly after. My husband isn't supportive of any > > of this so I can't do anything to the extreme but I'm willing to try > > anything. > > Sorry for the ramble. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Wow, that's rough--no enzymes and no Epsom salts. Do both brands (Houston and Kirkman) contain corn? I don't know anything about eczema--could you use magnesium sulfate cream on an unaffected area of the skin? My son doesn't like the cream, so we compromise by putting it only on the tops of his feet, and he gets the full dose that way. I have a regular light box that I use for myself, and I tried it on my son while he watched TV but he moved around too much to get any good out of it, I think. That's why I switched to the bulbs. I put two of them in the fixture over his computer and another two in the bathroom fixture. He spends a lot of time on the computer and a lot in the tub, so I know he's getting a certain amount of exposure each day. This is the brand I use, but if your light box works for you then I assume the bulbs they sell will work for your kids: http://www.lightforhealth.com/ And there's always just plain getting them outdoors, if weather permits where you are. Do you have waterproof pads for the beds? I use these and (usually) only have to change the pad, not the sheet. It's worth it to buy two per bed. http://www.bedwettingstore.com/Bedding/category_WaterProofPads.htm Good luck, Laura G. Renee wrote: > > Full spectrum bulbs can help make PST? Is there any particular brand > you recommend? I have a Verilux Happy light and I try to get the > kids to sit in front of it each day. I'm not sure it is helping. All > three have started wetting the bed this month. It seems like a lot > of bulbs are being called full spectrum these days even the Reveal or > Daylight bulbs which I like but are not the same thing. My kids > can't do the No-Phenol enzymes because they contain corn and my > daughter has eczema so I try to limit epsom salts. If the bulbs work > that could really help us out. All the laundry is driving me crazy. > Thanks. Renee S. > > This sounds a lot like phenol intolerance. Some of us don't > properly > > process phenol compounds, the deep colored plant pigments that > taste so > > good and have all the antioxidants. Hyperactivity and bedwetting > are two > > common symptoms. Another is that it gets worse in winter: the > liver > > makes less of the enzyme the breaks down the phenols (phenol > > sulfertransferase or PST) in winter. Why? Because all those deep- > colored > > fruits and veggies that contain the phenols grow in summer, not > winter. > > Until very recently, it was impossible to eat strawberries in > winter. > > But I digress. The more sun she gets, the more PST she makes, and > the > > less the symptoms. > > > > Besides sunshine (including full spectrum lights at home), there > are two > > other things you can do: Epsom salts baths and enzymes. Epsom > salts > > (magnesium sulfate) provide the co-factors needed for PST to do its > job. > > You can also buy an Epsom salts cream > > > > > > > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/minerals/magnesium/Mag_Sulf_Cream_ > <http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/minerals/magnesium/Mag_Sulf_Cream_> > Spec225.html > > > > for when it's inconvenient to take a bath. When my son is bouncing > off > > the ceiling, I can rub the cream on his back and then count the > minutes > > (10) till he's back to normal. > > > > Enzymes: two companies make enzymes that break down the phenol > compounds > > so they don't cause the reactions. With the enzymes, many kids can > eat > > high phenol foods without symptoms. > > > > > > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/enzymes/phenol/phenol_bp835.html > <http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/enzymes/phenol/phenol_bp835.html> > > > > http://houstonzymes.com/mm5/merchant.mvc? > <http://houstonzymes.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?> > Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=hni01 & Category_Code=nof > > > > Doing these things (along with GFCF) helped my 7yo who had never > had a > > dry night to be dry every night. > > > > Good luck! If you try any of this, let us know what happens. > > > > (You can also try having some no-casein days and see what happens > that > > night. Casein is a frequent culprit in bedwetting.) > > > > Laura G. > > > > Nicole Hermenitt wrote: > > > > > The story of my daughter is long and complicated. She's extremely > tiny > > > for her age: 5th percentile for height and way under weight. I > believe > > > at her last check a couple weeks ago she was 42 inches tall and > 36 > > > lbs. She is 6 1/2. We've done various tests on her and nothing > has > > > come back conclusive. Tons of odd symptoms just none that point > to one > > > thing: probably has Asperger's syndrome, but instead of the high > pain > > > tolerance of most those kids she is overly sensitive. Complains > of > > > headaches, joint pain, blury vision, and stomach aches, the bed > > > wetting and very hyper. Especially in the winter when we can't > get out > > > she's goes crazy. I bought a mini trampouline to put in the > living > > > room for her just so she has something to jump on besides my > couches. > > > Doctor says it's got to be nutrionally based and put her on > protein > > > shakes. I can't understand that when it's not protein that is her > > > issue (it isn't for any american that I know of) Nutritionist > says > > > diet looks great just > > > try to get her to eat more... If I fed her anymore the rest of my > kids > > > would end up fat. As it is she's eating every 2 hours and > constantly > > > hungry. We've tried cleansing with no success (thinking > parasite). > > > I've just about given up I don't know what else to try or do. > Although > > > the bedwetting is bothersome (and she has frequent accidents > during > > > the day) I feel there is an overall issued and I can't pin point > it. > > > When we went gluten free last summer she jumped up in weight by 5 > > > pounds but hasn't gained an ounce since then. We went casien free > in > > > part but not strict shortly after. My husband isn't supportive of > any > > > of this so I can't do anything to the extreme but I'm willing to > try > > > anything. > > > Sorry for the ramble. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 The other enzymes won't have any effect on phenols. For phenols there are just the two products (from Houston and Kirkman) that work. Laura G. Laurie Bilyeu wrote: > This is a helpful conversation for me. I'd tried the Houston enzymes a few > years ago for my son and saw some real improvement. Now I can't > remember why > we stopped. What I'm wondering tonight is how different those enzymes are > from other enzymes I can buy-just now I have one from Rainbow Light > that has > a full range of enzymes and some herbal supports as well. What do you all > know? > > ____ > > > <%40> > [ > <%40>] On Behalf Of renee2323 > Friday, February 16, 2007 9:27 PM > > <%40> > Re: bedwetting > > Full spectrum bulbs can help make PST? Is there any particular brand > you recommend? I have a Verilux Happy light and I try to get the > kids to sit in front of it each day. I'm not sure it is helping. All > three have started wetting the bed this month. It seems like a lot > of bulbs are being called full spectrum these days even the Reveal or > Daylight bulbs which I like but are not the same thing. My kids > can't do the No-Phenol enzymes because they contain corn and my > daughter has eczema so I try to limit epsom salts. If the bulbs work > that could really help us out. All the laundry is driving me crazy. > Thanks. Renee S. > > This sounds a lot like phenol intolerance. Some of us don't > properly > > process phenol compounds, the deep colored plant pigments that > taste so > > good and have all the antioxidants. Hyperactivity and bedwetting > are two > > common symptoms. Another is that it gets worse in winter: the > liver > > makes less of the enzyme the breaks down the phenols (phenol > > sulfertransferase or PST) in winter. Why? Because all those deep- > colored > > fruits and veggies that contain the phenols grow in summer, not > winter. > > Until very recently, it was impossible to eat strawberries in > winter. > > But I digress. The more sun she gets, the more PST she makes, and > the > > less the symptoms. > > > > Besides sunshine (including full spectrum lights at home), there > are two > > other things you can do: Epsom salts baths and enzymes. Epsom > salts > > (magnesium sulfate) provide the co-factors needed for PST to do its > job. > > You can also buy an Epsom salts cream > > > > > > > http://www.kirkmanl > <http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/minerals/magnesium/Mag_Sulf_Cream_ > <http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/minerals/magnesium/Mag_Sulf_Cream_>> > abs.com/products/minerals/magnesium/Mag_Sulf_Cream_ > Spec225.html > > > > for when it's inconvenient to take a bath. When my son is bouncing > off > > the ceiling, I can rub the cream on his back and then count the > minutes > > (10) till he's back to normal. > > > > Enzymes: two companies make enzymes that break down the phenol > compounds > > so they don't cause the reactions. With the enzymes, many kids can > eat > > high phenol foods without symptoms. > > > > > > http://www.kirkmanl > <http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/enzymes/phenol/phenol_bp835.html > <http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/enzymes/phenol/phenol_bp835.html>> > abs.com/products/enzymes/phenol/phenol_bp835.html > > > > http://houstonzymes <http://houstonzymes.com/mm5/merchant.mvc? > <http://houstonzymes.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?>> > .com/mm5/merchant.mvc? > Screen=CTGY & Store_Code=hni01 & Category_Code=nof > > > > Doing these things (along with GFCF) helped my 7yo who had never > had a > > dry night to be dry every night. > > > > Good luck! If you try any of this, let us know what happens. > > > > (You can also try having some no-casein days and see what happens > that > > night. Casein is a frequent culprit in bedwetting.) > > > > Laura G. > > > > Nicole Hermenitt wrote: > > > > > The story of my daughter is long and complicated. She's extremely > tiny > > > for her age: 5th percentile for height and way under weight. I > believe > > > at her last check a couple weeks ago she was 42 inches tall and > 36 > > > lbs. She is 6 1/2. We've done various tests on her and nothing > has > > > come back conclusive. Tons of odd symptoms just none that point > to one > > > thing: probably has Asperger's syndrome, but instead of the high > pain > > > tolerance of most those kids she is overly sensitive. Complains > of > > > headaches, joint pain, blury vision, and stomach aches, the bed > > > wetting and very hyper. Especially in the winter when we can't > get out > > > she's goes crazy. I bought a mini trampouline to put in the > living > > > room for her just so she has something to jump on besides my > couches. > > > Doctor says it's got to be nutrionally based and put her on > protein > > > shakes. I can't understand that when it's not protein that is her > > > issue (it isn't for any american that I know of) Nutritionist > says > > > diet looks great just > > > try to get her to eat more... If I fed her anymore the rest of my > kids > > > would end up fat. As it is she's eating every 2 hours and > constantly > > > hungry. We've tried cleansing with no success (thinking > parasite). > > > I've just about given up I don't know what else to try or do. > Although > > > the bedwetting is bothersome (and she has frequent accidents > during > > > the day) I feel there is an overall issued and I can't pin point > it. > > > When we went gluten free last summer she jumped up in weight by 5 > > > pounds but hasn't gained an ounce since then. We went casien free > in > > > part but not strict shortly after. My husband isn't supportive of > any > > > of this so I can't do anything to the extreme but I'm willing to > try > > > anything. > > > Sorry for the ramble. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Hi Niki; The symptoms you have listed for you daughter reminded me of some which we have gone through in the past. A couple of books that have been very helpful for my family are: YOUR BODY'S MANY CRIES FOR WATER, by F. Batmanghelidj, M.D. and ABC OF ASTHMA ALLERGIES & LUPUS same author. www.watercure.com One of the articles that really caught my eye was a letter from a lady that had problems with gluten and other ailments. She states that a gluten allergy and other ailments were nothing more than ominous labels for various conditions produced by chronic, unintentional dehydration. Her treatment was simply water and salt in the correct proportions. The best salt to use is Celtic sea salt, which has aprox 80 minerals and trace minerals which our bodies are already made up of. We are fearfully and wonderfully made. Would you try a simple treatment starting with water and natural salt? The recommended salt intake for an adult: for every quart of water you drink you should take 1/4 teaspoon of salt. First you drink the water and then put the salt on your tongue and let it dissolve. (I can research more on this to find out how much salt a child should take and get back to you, I didn't have time to re-read the book yet) Anyways, adding water and salt to my life has really helped. I also have a small daughter. She had problems with bed-wetting for many years. Someone told me that when she gains weight she will likely stop wetting. My mother-in-law said she probably needed the right kinds of fats in her diet, mainly Omega 3 and 6. After much research we turned to using hemp oil and hemp hearts(nuts) and we were very excited about the results. She at the age of 12 now recommends them to everyone she knows that has such a problem. She is still very petite for her age (4'5 " tall, around 60 lbs), but she is strong and healthy! (and Dry!) There is so much more I could share, but I think it would be better one-step-at-a-time. What can one lose by trying a simple water and salt treatment? It was worth it for us! Sincerly, ~Gail , Nicole Hermenitt <hermenitt0310 wrote: > > The story of my daughter is long and complicated. She's extremely tiny for her age: 5th percentile for height and way under weight. I believe at her last check a couple weeks ago she was 42 inches tall and 36 lbs. She is 6 1/2. We've done various tests on her and nothing has come back conclusive. Tons of odd symptoms just none that point to one thing: probably has Asperger's syndrome, but instead of the high pain tolerance of most those kids she is overly sensitive. Complains of headaches, joint pain, blury vision, and stomach aches, the bed wetting and very hyper. Especially in the winter when we can't get out she's goes crazy. I bought a mini trampouline to put in the living room for her just so she has something to jump on besides my couches. Doctor says it's got to be nutrionally based and put her on protein shakes. I can't understand that when it's not protein that is her issue (it isn't for any american that I know of) Nutritionist says diet looks great just > try to get her to eat more... If I fed her anymore the rest of my kids would end up fat. As it is she's eating every 2 hours and constantly hungry. We've tried cleansing with no success (thinking parasite). I've just about given up I don't know what else to try or do. Although the bedwetting is bothersome (and she has frequent accidents during the day) I feel there is an overall issued and I can't pin point it. When we went gluten free last summer she jumped up in weight by 5 pounds but hasn't gained an ounce since then. We went casien free in part but not strict shortly after. My husband isn't supportive of any of this so I can't do anything to the extreme but I'm willing to try anything. > Sorry for the ramble. > > Niki > > > > candocook <candocook wrote: > Hi Niki; > > Is your daughter quite slim? When I added hemp hearts (some call them > hemp nuts) to my daughters diet she stopped bed-wetting. She had to > eat a teaspoon a day. It helped for her. > > ~Gail > > > > > Nicole Hermenitt > HSP, CCBW, VP/LS, CFO, DHD, AE, CCJ > (269)687-9180 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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