Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 wow that sounds familiar! I am looking into it. After doing some research, my son seems to be only eating high phenol foods. too coincidental to ignore. I just don't know whether I should give him an enzyme (No Phenol by Houston Nutricuticals) or restrict his diet. from Dana's View: http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm Symptoms of phenol sensitivity Some typical symptoms indicating your child may have a phenol problem are [not all of these need be present]: dark circles under the eyes, red face/ears, diarrhea, hyperactivity, aggression, headache, head banging or other self-injury, inappropriate laughter, difficulty falling asleep at night, and night waking for several hours. The typical adult symptom of phenol intolerance is chronic fatigue syndrome, which is the opposite symptom that most children have, altho some children do present as always tired/lethargic, instead of hyper with sleep and other issues. - Nicole Hermenitt Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:43 PM Re: raising vegan children My daughter has always had issues with bed wetting only in the winter time and her hyperness goes through the roof during that season. I suffer from S.A.D so I just assumed it was similar for her, but after reading this poster's response I realize a lot of this sounds like her. She craves strawberries, grapes, and apples. She will eat an entire 1lb box of strawberries in a sitting if I allowed it. So how do you combat the issues with processing the phenols? Can someone explain this more? Niki Laura G <jsbach wrote: The most likely culprit is high phenol fruits and vegetables--i.e. the Feingold list. Also, the ability to process phenols is related to day length, so you might see symptoms (hyperactivity, bedwetting, red cheeks and ears, pimples on body) in winter that you didn't see in summer. Laura G. Marilyn wrote: > I don't know if the dark circles are lack of iron. I always thought they > were due to food sensitivities, personally. My kids have had them too. > But if > your kids eat no wheat or dairy, I don't know what else could cause them. > > > > Nicole Hermenitt HSP, CCBW, VP/LS, CFO, DHD, AE, CCJ (269)687-9180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 My vote is for trying the enzyme first. These phenol compounds are important for our health. If the enzyme will allow your child to eat those foods, that's the best thing. The enzymes are very low risk. And of course Epsom salts. And full-spectrum lights and just plain getting out in the sun. http://www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm Once you've started these things and then you challenge each high phenol food, chances are you'll find many are no longer a problem. Some probably still will be, especially since it's winter. Some foods that were ok for my son last summer had to be removed this winter. Boy, are we looking forward to spring around here... And strawberries...we never had them again once I saw what they were doing to him. Laura G. Kelli J. wrote: > wow that sounds familiar! I am looking into it. After doing some > research, my son seems to be only eating high phenol foods. too > coincidental to ignore. I just don't know whether I should give him an > enzyme (No Phenol by Houston Nutricuticals) or restrict his diet. from > Dana's View: http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm > <http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm> > Symptoms of phenol sensitivity > > Some typical symptoms indicating your child may have a phenol problem > are [not all of these need be present]: dark circles under the eyes, > red face/ears, diarrhea, hyperactivity, aggression, headache, head > banging or other self-injury, inappropriate laughter, difficulty > falling asleep at night, and night waking for several hours. The > typical adult symptom of phenol intolerance is chronic fatigue > syndrome, which is the opposite symptom that most children have, altho > some children do present as always tired/lethargic, instead of hyper > with sleep and other issues. > > - > Nicole Hermenitt > > <%40> > Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:43 PM > Re: raising vegan children > > My daughter has always had issues with bed wetting only in the winter > time and her hyperness goes through the roof during that season. I > suffer from S.A.D so I just assumed it was similar for her, but after > reading this poster's response I realize a lot of this sounds like > her. She craves strawberries, grapes, and apples. She will eat an > entire 1lb box of strawberries in a sitting if I allowed it. So how do > you combat the issues with processing the phenols? Can someone explain > this more? > > Niki > > Laura G <jsbach <jsbach%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote: > The most likely culprit is high phenol fruits and vegetables--i.e. the > Feingold list. Also, the ability to process phenols is related to day > length, so you might see symptoms (hyperactivity, bedwetting, red cheeks > and ears, pimples on body) in winter that you didn't see in summer. > > Laura G. > > Marilyn wrote: > > > I don't know if the dark circles are lack of iron. I always thought they > > were due to food sensitivities, personally. My kids have had them too. > > But if > > your kids eat no wheat or dairy, I don't know what else could cause > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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