Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 I see many recipes with cornstarch & corn flour in the same recipe. Is there a difference between the two? I have not seen anything but cornstarch. Thanks, Danielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 Hi Danielle, If you see cornflour in brackets written beside cornstarch (or vice versa), then that's for the Australian translation. Here cornstarch is called cornflour (although it's not always made form corn). In Australia we can get something that is called corn flour that is yellow and different to the cornflour that is used mostly for thickening. Confused yet? Kim , " dhsellers " <dhsellers wrote: > > I see many recipes with cornstarch & corn flour in the same recipe. > Is there a difference between the two? I have not seen anything but > cornstarch. > > > > Thanks, > Danielle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 Basically corn flour is the whole kernel crushed into something closer to meal or a coarse flour whereas corn starch results from corn being cooked and just that white stuff (the starch) that goes in the water being dehydrated. There is, of course, much more to it, but yes, in N. America corn starch and corn flour are two very different things. BL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 Hi Kim & BL, Confused yet? Almost! So, if a recipe calls for corn flour, can I substitute yellow or white corn meal? They are not interchangeable? What does that do to the taste of a recipe? I have another question: A recipe calls for " all purpose flour " but I would use a flour blend that included corn starch. If the same recipe (Vegan Snickerdoodles in VT mag) calls for corn starch as a separate ingredient, do I use both the starch in the flour blend as well as the separate starch? Thanks, Danielle (USA) Vegan-and-Gluten- Free@ .com, " dhsellers " <dhsellers@. ..> wrote: > > I see many recipes with cornstarch & corn flour in the same recipe. > Is there a difference between the two? I have not seen anything but > cornstarch. > > > > Thanks, > Danielle > <!-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} --> <!-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} --> <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} ...bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} ...MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} ...replbq{margin:4;} --> ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 On Dec 25, 2007 11:10 AM, DMHS <dhsellers wrote: > Confused yet? I'd better not be, it's part of what they pay me for at Allergy Grocer - :-D > So, if a recipe calls for corn flour, can I substitute yellow or white corn > meal? They are not interchangeable? What does that do to the taste of a > recipe? Technically speaking they aren't interchangeable because you will have to make some adjustments to the preparation and the liquid in the recipe if you use meal as opposed to flour. Corn meal, because it is more coarse needs more liquid to cook properly. So if you use corn meal in place of the finer corn flour you may find you have to adjust the liquids used by an extra 1/4 cup unless you don't mind a grittier mouth feel to the finish product. For example corn bread as opposed to a flour torilla. Some people don't mind a grittier mouth feel. One way to make sure that you have enough liquid when using corn meal is to allow the recipe to sit about 20 minutes after you have combined the flours and liquids. This gives the meal time to absorb some of the liquids and if you find it's too thick after sitting, then you should probably add that extra 1/4 c of liquid and thin it down some. > > I have another question: > > A recipe calls for " all purpose flour " but I would use a flour blend that > included corn starch. If the same recipe (Vegan Snickerdoodles in VT mag) > calls for corn starch as a separate ingredient, do I use both the starch in > the flour blend as well as the separate starch? If I am using a blend which incorporates corn starch, I add the total of the two flours together. For example if a recipe needs 2 cups of all-purpose blend and 1/2 a cup of corn starch, I would use 2 1/2 cups of Hagman's original all purpose blend rather than 2 cups of the blend and 1/2 cup of corn starch. In baking, it's important to try to keep the protein to starch ratio as close as possible to that found in gluten grains to achieve a similar result. That's one of the reasons so many people choose to use bean flours as part of their blends. Hagman's four flour blend makes use of garbanzo and fava bean flours to achieve this balance in combination with the starches, but many are finding that navy bean flour has a less obvious beany taste, a whiter end colour and still adds the protein necessary. On top of that, navy bean flour is about $3 a pound to $10 for garfava flour. The aim is to have about 30 - 40% protein content in the flour blend, which is what the best wheat bread flour does. HTH BL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2007 Report Share Posted December 25, 2007 Thank you, Brenda. - Danielle *** This email is private. Please do not share. Please do not include this name or address in bulk email messages. Thank you. Brenda-Lee Olson <shalomaleichemacademy Tuesday, December 25, 2007 4:39:35 PM Re: Re: flour On Dec 25, 2007 11:10 AM, DMHS <dhsellers > wrote: > Confused yet? I'd better not be, it's part of what they pay me for at Allergy Grocer - :-D > So, if a recipe calls for corn flour, can I substitute yellow or white corn > meal? They are not interchangeable? What does that do to the taste of a > recipe? Technically speaking they aren't interchangeable because you will have to make some adjustments to the preparation and the liquid in the recipe if you use meal as opposed to flour. Corn meal, because it is more coarse needs more liquid to cook properly. So if you use corn meal in place of the finer corn flour you may find you have to adjust the liquids used by an extra 1/4 cup unless you don't mind a grittier mouth feel to the finish product. For example corn bread as opposed to a flour torilla. Some people don't mind a grittier mouth feel. One way to make sure that you have enough liquid when using corn meal is to allow the recipe to sit about 20 minutes after you have combined the flours and liquids. This gives the meal time to absorb some of the liquids and if you find it's too thick after sitting, then you should probably add that extra 1/4 c of liquid and thin it down some. > > I have another question: > > A recipe calls for " all purpose flour " but I would use a flour blend that > included corn starch. If the same recipe (Vegan Snickerdoodles in VT mag) > calls for corn starch as a separate ingredient, do I use both the starch in > the flour blend as well as the separate starch? If I am using a blend which incorporates corn starch, I add the total of the two flours together. For example if a recipe needs 2 cups of all-purpose blend and 1/2 a cup of corn starch, I would use 2 1/2 cups of Hagman's original all purpose blend rather than 2 cups of the blend and 1/2 cup of corn starch. In baking, it's important to try to keep the protein to starch ratio as close as possible to that found in gluten grains to achieve a similar result. That's one of the reasons so many people choose to use bean flours as part of their blends. Hagman's four flour blend makes use of garbanzo and fava bean flours to achieve this balance in combination with the starches, but many are finding that navy bean flour has a less obvious beany taste, a whiter end colour and still adds the protein necessary. On top of that, navy bean flour is about $3 a pound to $10 for garfava flour. The aim is to have about 30 - 40% protein content in the flour blend, which is what the best wheat bread flour does. HTH BL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Thank you for the explanation. It cleared things up for me. Thanks, Danielle *** This email is private. Please do not share. Please do not include this name or address in bulk email messages. Thank you. Brenda-Lee Olson <shalomaleichemacademy Tuesday, December 25, 2007 4:39:35 PM Re: Re: flour On Dec 25, 2007 11:10 AM, DMHS <dhsellers > wrote: > Confused yet? I'd better not be, it's part of what they pay me for at Allergy Grocer - :-D > So, if a recipe calls for corn flour, can I substitute yellow or white corn > meal? They are not interchangeable? What does that do to the taste of a > recipe? Technically speaking they aren't interchangeable because you will have to make some adjustments to the preparation and the liquid in the recipe if you use meal as opposed to flour. Corn meal, because it is more coarse needs more liquid to cook properly. So if you use corn meal in place of the finer corn flour you may find you have to adjust the liquids used by an extra 1/4 cup unless you don't mind a grittier mouth feel to the finish product. For example corn bread as opposed to a flour torilla. Some people don't mind a grittier mouth feel. One way to make sure that you have enough liquid when using corn meal is to allow the recipe to sit about 20 minutes after you have combined the flours and liquids. This gives the meal time to absorb some of the liquids and if you find it's too thick after sitting, then you should probably add that extra 1/4 c of liquid and thin it down some. > > I have another question: > > A recipe calls for " all purpose flour " but I would use a flour blend that > included corn starch. If the same recipe (Vegan Snickerdoodles in VT mag) > calls for corn starch as a separate ingredient, do I use both the starch in > the flour blend as well as the separate starch? If I am using a blend which incorporates corn starch, I add the total of the two flours together. For example if a recipe needs 2 cups of all-purpose blend and 1/2 a cup of corn starch, I would use 2 1/2 cups of Hagman's original all purpose blend rather than 2 cups of the blend and 1/2 cup of corn starch. In baking, it's important to try to keep the protein to starch ratio as close as possible to that found in gluten grains to achieve a similar result. That's one of the reasons so many people choose to use bean flours as part of their blends. Hagman's four flour blend makes use of garbanzo and fava bean flours to achieve this balance in combination with the starches, but many are finding that navy bean flour has a less obvious beany taste, a whiter end colour and still adds the protein necessary. On top of that, navy bean flour is about $3 a pound to $10 for garfava flour. The aim is to have about 30 - 40% protein content in the flour blend, which is what the best wheat bread flour does. HTH BL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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