Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? The recipe: Saute onions/garlic Add 1 lb. tofu 2 T. Chili Powder 2 tsp. Cumin When they are all mixed add: 1 can pinto beans 2 cans kidney beans 3 cups water- I add a bit more Heat until done. Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the chili powder. Thanks in advance Danielle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I've been musing about the same thing. You need something for heat. Black pepper (which is not a nightshade) comes to mind. I wonder about horseradish. What other " hot " veggies/spices are there, that are not peppers? Can't use hot sauce, chili powder, or cayenne. Some onions are quite hot. Pam On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:49 PM, dhsellers <dhsellers wrote: This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution > for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? > > The recipe: > Saute onions/garlic > Add > 1 lb. tofu > 2 T. Chili Powder > 2 tsp. Cumin > When they are all mixed add: > 1 can pinto beans > 2 cans kidney beans > 3 cups water- I add a bit more > Heat until done. > > Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. > > I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to > make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the > chili powder. > > Thanks in advance > Danielle > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I don't use chili powder either because many of the commerically prepared mixtures are NOT gluten free. I put in just the individual spices I want. Chili powders are mixtures of ground chillis with additions such as paprika, cumin, oregano, garlic powder, salt, black pepper, cinnamon, cloves, coriander, mace, nutmeg and/or tumeric. Some brands also contain wheat starch or modified corn starch. I definitely think you can make a mutually enjoyable chilli without black pepper! If you are concerned about the spiciness, you can (carefully!) add more ground chilles, cayenne or even ginger. Dried parsley has a peppery flavour when used generously and is good nutritionally too. Does that help? Deborah This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? The recipe: Saute onions/garlic Add 1 lb. tofu 2 T. Chili Powder 2 tsp. Cumin When they are all mixed add: 1 can pinto beans 2 cans kidney beans 3 cups water- I add a bit more Heat until done. Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the chili powder. Thanks in advance Danielle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I am at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder. Thanks though, Danielle Does that help? Deborah This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? The recipe: Saute onions/garlic Add 1 lb. tofu 2 T. Chili Powder 2 tsp. Cumin When they are all mixed add: 1 can pinto beans 2 cans kidney beans 3 cups water- I add a bit more Heat until done. Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the chili powder. Thanks in advance Danielle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 It wouldn't be the SAME as chili powder, but if I were trying to work around using chili powder in that recipe, I would use smoked paprika, garlic, and a bit of molasses, probably. And onions or green onions. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, DMHS <dhsellers wrote: > > Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I am > at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder. > > Thanks though, > Danielle > > Does that help? > > Deborah > > This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution > for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? > > The recipe: > Saute onions/garlic > Add > 1 lb. tofu > 2 T. Chili Powder > 2 tsp. Cumin > When they are all mixed add: > 1 can pinto beans > 2 cans kidney beans > 3 cups water- I add a bit more > Heat until done. > > Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. > > I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to > make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the > chili powder. > > Thanks in advance > Danielle > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Well, a little experimentation may be necessary to find out how you want it. In my chilli recipe, in addition to the beans, I chop in carrots, cabbage, celery, leeks although I do not put in tofu. Here's the combination I normally use in a large pot of chilli of mixed beans and veggies: 1 tbsp dried parsley, 1 tbsp cumin, 1 tbsp basil, 1 tbsp oregano, several cloves of fresh garlic chopped up finely. This combination makes a yummy, completely mild chilli. In addition to those herbs/spices, if you want to make it hot/spicey, try adding 1/8 to 1/4 tsp ground chillis or pure cayenne. Mix that in well, let it simmer for a few minutes then taste. If it isn't spicey enough to suit you, add another 1/8 or 1/4 tsp, mix that in, let it simmer and taste it. The amount to add will depend on what type of ground chillis you happen to have, so just add a little at a time like that to avoid putting in too much. Deborah Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I am at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder. Thanks though, Danielle Does that help? Deborah This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? The recipe: Saute onions/garlic Add 1 lb. tofu 2 T. Chili Powder 2 tsp. Cumin When they are all mixed add: 1 can pinto beans 2 cans kidney beans 3 cups water- I add a bit more Heat until done. Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the chili powder. Thanks in advance Danielle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Thank you, Deborah. Have a great day. - Danielle Deborah Pageau <dpageau Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:37:17 PM Re: substitution? Well, a little experimentation may be necessary to find out how you want it. In my chilli recipe, in addition to the beans, I chop in carrots, cabbage, celery, leeks although I do not put in tofu. Here's the combination I normally use in a large pot of chilli of mixed beans and veggies: 1 tbsp dried parsley, 1 tbsp cumin, 1 tbsp basil, 1 tbsp oregano, several cloves of fresh garlic chopped up finely. This combination makes a yummy, completely mild chilli. In addition to those herbs/spices, if you want to make it hot/spicey, try adding 1/8 to 1/4 tsp ground chillis or pure cayenne. Mix that in well, let it simmer for a few minutes then taste. If it isn't spicey enough to suit you, add another 1/8 or 1/4 tsp, mix that in, let it simmer and taste it. The amount to add will depend on what type of ground chillis you happen to have, so just add a little at a time like that to avoid putting in too much. Deborah Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I am at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder. Thanks though, Danielle Does that help? Deborah This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? The recipe: Saute onions/garlic Add 1 lb. tofu 2 T. Chili Powder 2 tsp. Cumin When they are all mixed add: 1 can pinto beans 2 cans kidney beans 3 cups water- I add a bit more Heat until done. Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the chili powder. Thanks in advance Danielle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Please take my name off your emailing list. Please do not send me any more emails / recipes from anyone. Thank you. Sincerely C. Tallon : dhsellers: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:37:09 -0800Re: substitution? Thank you. I thought paprika was made with peppers?Danielle----- Original Message ----Sally Parrott Ashbrook <sally.parrottTo: : Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:06:17 PMRe: substitution?It wouldn't be the SAME as chili powder, but if I were trying to work aroundusing chili powder in that recipe, I would use smoked paprika, garlic, and abit of molasses, probably. And onions or green onions.On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, DMHS <dhsellers (AT) (DOT) com> wrote:>> Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I am> at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder.>> Thanks though,> Danielle>> Does that help?>> Deborah>> This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution> for chili powder that would work in vegan chili?>> The recipe:> Saute onions/garlic> Add> 1 lb. tofu> 2 T. Chili Powder> 2 tsp. Cumin> When they are all mixed add:> 1 can pinto beans> 2 cans kidney beans> 3 cups water- I add a bit more> Heat until done.>> Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it.>> I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to> make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the> chili powder.>> Thanks in advance> Danielle> .>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Oops, yes, I guess it is. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 6:37 PM, DMHS <dhsellers wrote: > Thank you. I thought paprika was made with peppers? > > Danielle > > > > Sally Parrott Ashbrook <sally.parrott<sally.parrott%40gmail.com> > > > To: <%40> > Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:06:17 PM > Re: substitution? > > It wouldn't be the SAME as chili powder, but if I were trying to work > around > using chili powder in that recipe, I would use smoked paprika, garlic, and > a > bit of molasses, probably. And onions or green onions. > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, DMHS <dhsellers > wrote: > > > > > Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I > am > > at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder. > > > > Thanks though, > > Danielle > > > > Does that help? > > > > Deborah > > > > This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution > > for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? > > > > The recipe: > > Saute onions/garlic > > Add > > 1 lb. tofu > > 2 T. Chili Powder > > 2 tsp. Cumin > > When they are all mixed add: > > 1 can pinto beans > > 2 cans kidney beans > > 3 cups water- I add a bit more > > Heat until done. > > > > Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. > > > > I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to > > make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the > > chili powder. > > > > Thanks in advance > > Danielle > > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Yes, paprika is made from dried red peppers. That is NOT the same thing as 'pepper' though. Too bad it's the same word. Black pepper is the ground up pepper corns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pepper As you have stated you need to avoid " pepper " per se, I have been assuming you meant ground pepper corns. Is that right? Are you OK with sweet and hot peppers? ... from the Deadly Nightshade family. Oh, and by the way, I also put canned tomato in my chilli. Deborah Thank you. I thought paprika was made with peppers? Danielle It wouldn't be the SAME as chili powder, but if I were trying to work around using chili powder in that recipe, I would use smoked paprika, garlic, and a bit of molasses, probably. And onions or green onions. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, DMHS <dhsellers > wrote: > > Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I am > at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder. > > Thanks though, > Danielle > > Does that help? > > Deborah > > This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution > for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? > > The recipe: > Saute onions/garlic > Add > 1 lb. tofu > 2 T. Chili Powder > 2 tsp. Cumin > When they are all mixed add: > 1 can pinto beans > 2 cans kidney beans > 3 cups water- I add a bit more > Heat until done. > > Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. > > I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to > make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the > chili powder. > > Thanks in advance > Danielle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Not quite. I need to avoid all nightshade veggies as well as being vegan and gluten free. Black pepper is ok, but not other pepers, or tomatoes, eggplant or potatoes. Danielle *** This email is private. Please do not share. Please do not include this name or address in bulk email messages. Thank you. Deborah Pageau <dpageau vegan gluten free list Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:14:33 PM Re: substitution? Yes, paprika is made from dried red peppers. That is NOT the same thing as 'pepper' though. Too bad it's the same word. Black pepper is the ground up pepper corns. http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Black_pepper As you have stated you need to avoid " pepper " per se, I have been assuming you meant ground pepper corns. Is that right? Are you OK with sweet and hot peppers? ... from the Deadly Nightshade family. Oh, and by the way, I also put canned tomato in my chilli. Deborah Thank you. I thought paprika was made with peppers? Danielle It wouldn't be the SAME as chili powder, but if I were trying to work around using chili powder in that recipe, I would use smoked paprika, garlic, and a bit of molasses, probably. And onions or green onions. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, DMHS <dhsellers > wrote: > > Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I am > at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder. > > Thanks though, > Danielle > > Does that help? > > Deborah > > This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution > for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? > > The recipe: > Saute onions/garlic > Add > 1 lb. tofu > 2 T. Chili Powder > 2 tsp. Cumin > When they are all mixed add: > 1 can pinto beans > 2 cans kidney beans > 3 cups water- I add a bit more > Heat until done. > > Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. > > I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to > make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the > chili powder. > > Thanks in advance > Danielle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Ah! Well, that does put a different light on the discussion! It's good to be very clear that 'pepper' and 'peppers' are two completely different plants. I have a recipe for non-deadly nightshade chilli that can also be used as spaghetti sauce just by leaving out the beans. I got it from the book " Eat more, weigh less " by Dr. Terry Shintani of Hawaii. I just checked and it's still available on amazon. It uses grated beets instead of tomatoes. It gives the sauce or chilli the red colour and enriches the flavour, while being low in allergenicity. Now that it's clear you have to avoid 'peppers' rather than 'pepper', clearly, you cannot use paprika, ground chillis or cayenne. However the mild herbs and spices are non-nightshade. Deborah Not quite. I need to avoid all nightshade veggies as well as being vegan and gluten free. Black pepper is ok, but not other pepers, or tomatoes, eggplant or potatoes. Danielle Yes, paprika is made from dried red peppers. That is NOT the same thing as 'pepper' though. Too bad it's the same word. Black pepper is the ground up pepper corns. http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Black_pepper As you have stated you need to avoid " pepper " per se, I have been assuming you meant ground pepper corns. Is that right? Are you OK with sweet and hot peppers? .... from the Deadly Nightshade family. Oh, and by the way, I also put canned tomato in my chilli. Deborah Thank you. I thought paprika was made with peppers? Danielle It wouldn't be the SAME as chili powder, but if I were trying to work around using chili powder in that recipe, I would use smoked paprika, garlic, and a bit of molasses, probably. And onions or green onions. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, DMHS <dhsellers > wrote: > > Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I am > at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder. > > Thanks though, > Danielle > > Does that help? > > Deborah > > This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution > for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? > > The recipe: > Saute onions/garlic > Add > 1 lb. tofu > 2 T. Chili Powder > 2 tsp. Cumin > When they are all mixed add: > 1 can pinto beans > 2 cans kidney beans > 3 cups water- I add a bit more > Heat until done. > > Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. > > I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to > make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the > chili powder. > > Thanks in advance > Danielle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Thank you, Deborah. I work at a book store, so I will check to see if we have that book. Thanks again, Danielle Deborah Pageau <dpageau Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:30:19 AM Re: substitution? Ah! Well, that does put a different light on the discussion! It's good to be very clear that 'pepper' and 'peppers' are two completely different plants. I have a recipe for non-deadly nightshade chilli that can also be used as spaghetti sauce just by leaving out the beans. I got it from the book " Eat more, weigh less " by Dr. Terry Shintani of Hawaii. I just checked and it's still available on amazon. It uses grated beets instead of tomatoes. It gives the sauce or chilli the red colour and enriches the flavour, while being low in allergenicity. Now that it's clear you have to avoid 'peppers' rather than 'pepper', clearly, you cannot use paprika, ground chillis or cayenne. However the mild herbs and spices are non-nightshade. Deborah Not quite. I need to avoid all nightshade veggies as well as being vegan and gluten free. Black pepper is ok, but not other pepers, or tomatoes, eggplant or potatoes. Danielle Yes, paprika is made from dried red peppers. That is NOT the same thing as 'pepper' though. Too bad it's the same word. Black pepper is the ground up pepper corns. http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Black_pepper As you have stated you need to avoid " pepper " per se, I have been assuming you meant ground pepper corns. Is that right? Are you OK with sweet and hot peppers? .... from the Deadly Nightshade family. Oh, and by the way, I also put canned tomato in my chilli. Deborah Thank you. I thought paprika was made with peppers? Danielle It wouldn't be the SAME as chili powder, but if I were trying to work around using chili powder in that recipe, I would use smoked paprika, garlic, and a bit of molasses, probably. And onions or green onions. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, DMHS <dhsellers > wrote: > > Sort of. I am not good with types of spices to use and quantities, so I am > at a loss as to exactly what to add instead of the chili powder. > > Thanks though, > Danielle > > Does that help? > > Deborah > > This may sound a bit strange, but is there a pepper-less substitution > for chili powder that would work in vegan chili? > > The recipe: > Saute onions/garlic > Add > 1 lb. tofu > 2 T. Chili Powder > 2 tsp. Cumin > When they are all mixed add: > 1 can pinto beans > 2 cans kidney beans > 3 cups water- I add a bit more > Heat until done. > > Pretty simple recipe, but because of the chili powder, I can't eat it. > > I don't have the room to make chili for my husband and then have to > make something else for me because I can't have the pepper in the > chili powder. > > Thanks in advance > Danielle . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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