Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Hi guys, 2 questions, just wondering if any of you knowledgeable people know about this stuff... Bear with me here... DDT Just say I was exposed to DDT in utero or as a bub, is there any way that you can test for such a thing? It seems my endo thinks I may (may, not confirmed yet) be going through early menopause, I also have epilepsy and my immune system is basically screwed with multiple auto-immune disorders starting with mastitus at 8 years old (I'm 30). My Dad has sort of rattled on for years about DDT and all the stillborn babies our friends had when I was young - I guess it got me curious. I'm sure it's too late to do anything about it but I wonder if anyone knows about this sort of thing? TOMATOES Also, I need to heal my damaged tummy and stay away from all acidic foods which makes my veganism exceedingly difficult. My question is, who knows about acid free (or low acid) tomatoes? Are they really better? Or is vine ripened better? Are these GM? I always cook the tomatoes but I'm still concerned, that they still may be contributing toward cystitis and are aggravating my tum. Tomatoes are in almost everything vegan that we to eat, so I was hoping that acid free would be a good alternative. I love them and I'm resisting giving them up. Here's the list of foods I have to avoid if you're still with me (you vegan-and-gluten free people have heard this before but... citrus fruits, gluten, chocolate & all caffiened foods, alcohol, entire onion & garlic family, deadly nightshade foods plus chilli, capsicum and all soy products... so basically, anything delicious. I'm saying it again because anyone else out there who has such a diet, I'd love to hear from you personally! x Jess ________ Sent from Mail. A Smarter Inbox. http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hi Jess; It's can seem tough to have to avoid a long list of foods like that, I hear ya! I find it helps to focus on what I CAN have, rather than on what I can't. You were asking about eating tomatoes, but since you have to avoid the deadly nightshade family, that's really not an issue, is it? The Deadly Nightshade family is tomatoes, peppers (which includes chilli peppers and is the source of capsicum), egg plant and potatoes. There's LOTS of food other than those on your " avoid " list though. Grapes, pears, apples, bananas; many multicoloured legumes other than soy; many multi-coloured veggies (sweet potatoes and yams are NOT deadly nightshades). The trick to having a happy eating experience is exploring what you CAN have. It gets to be fun and surprisingly delicious. ... and the benefits to health can be surprisingly good too! Carob offers some consolation when chocolate is off the list. Eliminating gluten just means you have to start finding non-gluten grains. Our general staple is rice in a rainbow of shades and textures; quinoa, teff, buckwheat, amaranthe, sorghum and some excellent gluten free baking mixes on the market these days. Herbal teas (have you discovered Rooiboos yet?) help with avoiding caffeined beverages; sparkling fruit juices help with the need to avoid alcohol. If you are having trouble finding enough foods on your CAN eat list, explore some new grocery stores. Ethnic stores offer new options. Ever had Durien? Lichees? Plantain?? ...all very nummy! Embrace the learning curve and what may seem like a burdensome and onorous uphill battle now, may turn into a glorious adventure! Wishing you all the best... Deborah Here's the list of foods I have to avoid if you're still with me (you vegan-and-gluten free people have heard this before but... citrus fruits, gluten, chocolate & all caffiened foods, alcohol, entire onion & garlic family, deadly nightshade foods plus chilli, capsicum and all soy products... so basically, anything delicious. I'm saying it again because anyone else out there who has such a diet, I'd love to hear from you personally! Jess._,_.___ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Someone on another list suggested hare krishna foods, because they also avoid meat, onions, garlic, etc. Now some of the recipes do have chilis, citrus, or nightshades in them, but a lot do not. And I found lots of flatbreads (dosa, etc.) without gluten ingredients in them. http://www.harekrsna.com/practice/prasadam/recipes/recipes.htm Seizures and premature ovarian failure are both symptoms of Fragile X. Any history of mental retardation/autism/learning disabilities, flat feet, heart problems, late talkers, anxiety, in your extended family? Especially amongst boys? Pam On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Jessie Hume <vegan_taste_test wrote: Hi guys, > > 2 questions, just wondering if any of you knowledgeable people know about > this stuff... > > Bear with me here... > > DDT > > Just say I was exposed to DDT in utero or as a bub, is there any way that > you can test for such a thing? It seems my endo thinks I may (may, not > confirmed yet) be going through early menopause, I also have epilepsy and my > immune system is basically screwed with multiple auto-immune disorders > starting with mastitus at 8 years old (I'm 30). My Dad has sort of rattled > on for years about DDT and all the stillborn babies our friends had when I > was young - I guess it got me curious. I'm sure it's too late to do anything > about it but I wonder if anyone knows about this sort of thing? > > TOMATOES > > Also, I need to heal my damaged tummy and stay away from all acidic foods > which makes my veganism exceedingly difficult. My question is, who knows > about acid free (or low acid) tomatoes? Are they really better? Or is vine > ripened better? Are these GM? I always cook the tomatoes but I'm still > concerned, that they still may be contributing toward cystitis and are > aggravating my tum. Tomatoes are in almost everything vegan that we to eat, > so I was hoping that acid free would be a good alternative. I love them and > I'm resisting giving them up. > > > Here's the list of foods I have to avoid if you're still with me (you > vegan-and-gluten free people have heard this before but... citrus fruits, > gluten, chocolate & all caffiened foods, alcohol, entire onion & garlic > family, deadly nightshade foods plus chilli, capsicum and all soy > products... so basically, anything delicious. I'm saying it again because > anyone else out there who has such a diet, I'd love to hear from you > personally! > > x > > Jess > > ________ > Sent from Mail. > A Smarter Inbox. http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 And you'll have to watch out for dairy. Meant to mention that. Pam On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:22 PM, pdw <pdworkman wrote: > Someone on another list suggested hare krishna foods, because they > also avoid meat, onions, garlic, etc. > > Now some of the recipes do have chilis, citrus, or nightshades in > them, but a lot do not. And I found lots of flatbreads (dosa, etc.) > without gluten ingredients in them. > > http://www.harekrsna.com/practice/prasadam/recipes/recipes.htm > > Seizures and premature ovarian failure are both symptoms of Fragile X. > Any history of mental retardation/autism/learning disabilities, flat > feet, heart problems, late talkers, anxiety, in your extended family? > Especially amongst boys? > > > Pam > > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Jessie Hume > <vegan_taste_test wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > 2 questions, just wondering if any of you knowledgeable people know about > > this stuff... > > > > Bear with me here... > > > > DDT > > > > Just say I was exposed to DDT in utero or as a bub, is there any way that > > you can test for such a thing? It seems my endo thinks I may (may, not > > confirmed yet) be going through early menopause, I also have epilepsy and my > > immune system is basically screwed with multiple auto-immune disorders > > starting with mastitus at 8 years old (I'm 30). My Dad has sort of rattled > > on for years about DDT and all the stillborn babies our friends had when I > > was young - I guess it got me curious. I'm sure it's too late to do anything > > about it but I wonder if anyone knows about this sort of thing? > > > > TOMATOES > > > > Also, I need to heal my damaged tummy and stay away from all acidic foods > > which makes my veganism exceedingly difficult. My question is, who knows > > about acid free (or low acid) tomatoes? Are they really better? Or is vine > > ripened better? Are these GM? I always cook the tomatoes but I'm still > > concerned, that they still may be contributing toward cystitis and are > > aggravating my tum. Tomatoes are in almost everything vegan that we to eat, > > so I was hoping that acid free would be a good alternative. I love them and > > I'm resisting giving them up. > > > > > > Here's the list of foods I have to avoid if you're still with me (you > > vegan-and-gluten free people have heard this before but... citrus fruits, > > gluten, chocolate & all caffiened foods, alcohol, entire onion & garlic > > family, deadly nightshade foods plus chilli, capsicum and all soy > > products... so basically, anything delicious. I'm saying it again because > > anyone else out there who has such a diet, I'd love to hear from you > > personally! > > > > x > > > > Jess > > > > ________ > > Sent from Mail. > > A Smarter Inbox. http://uk.docs./nowyoucan.html > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Yeah I know, I was just hoping if I ate acid free ones I would have less of a reaction to them! But I suppose that won't make them any less deady nightshady! I'm ever writing lists of safe foods and planting them around the house. I will try some of those fruits you suggested from ethinic stores...I can't say I'm at " embrace " yet... maybe one day... I'd rather be a healthy little bean. Deborah Pageau <dpageau Tuesday, 26 February, 2008 1:07:35 PM Re: DDT and acid free (or low acid) tomatoes Hi Jess; It's can seem tough to have to avoid a long list of foods like that, I hear ya! I find it helps to focus on what I CAN have, rather than on what I can't. You were asking about eating tomatoes, but since you have to avoid the deadly nightshade family, that's really not an issue, is it? The Deadly Nightshade family is tomatoes, peppers (which includes chilli peppers and is the source of capsicum), egg plant and potatoes. There's LOTS of food other than those on your " avoid " list though. Grapes, pears, apples, bananas; many multicoloured legumes other than soy; many multi-coloured veggies (sweet potatoes and yams are NOT deadly nightshades) . The trick to having a happy eating experience is exploring what you CAN have. It gets to be fun and surprisingly delicious. ... and the benefits to health can be surprisingly good too! Carob offers some consolation when chocolate is off the list. Eliminating gluten just means you have to start finding non-gluten grains. Our general staple is rice in a rainbow of shades and textures; quinoa, teff, buckwheat, amaranthe, sorghum and some excellent gluten free baking mixes on the market these days. Herbal teas (have you discovered Rooiboos yet?) help with avoiding caffeined beverages; sparkling fruit juices help with the need to avoid alcohol. If you are having trouble finding enough foods on your CAN eat list, explore some new grocery stores. Ethnic stores offer new options. Ever had Durien? Lichees? Plantain?? ...all very nummy! Embrace the learning curve and what may seem like a burdensome and onorous uphill battle now, may turn into a glorious adventure! Wishing you all the best... Deborah Here's the list of foods I have to avoid if you're still with me (you vegan-and-gluten free people have heard this before but... citrus fruits, gluten, chocolate & all caffiened foods, alcohol, entire onion & garlic family, deadly nightshade foods plus chilli, capsicum and all soy products... so basically, anything delicious. I'm saying it again because anyone else out there who has such a diet, I'd love to hear from you personally! Jess._,_.___ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hmmm, yes like pure veg... with no dairy... Not specifically... a few things but nothing that stands out on that list. We're more a cancer-diabetes-schitzophrenia-graves disease family. pdw <pdworkman Tuesday, 26 February, 2008 3:22:33 PM Re: DDT and acid free (or low acid) tomatoes Someone on another list suggested hare krishna foods, because they also avoid meat, onions, garlic, etc. Now some of the recipes do have chilis, citrus, or nightshades in them, but a lot do not. And I found lots of flatbreads (dosa, etc.) without gluten ingredients in them. http://www.harekrsn a.com/practice/ prasadam/ recipes/recipes. htm Seizures and premature ovarian failure are both symptoms of Fragile X. Any history of mental retardation/ autism/learning disabilities, flat feet, heart problems, late talkers, anxiety, in your extended family? Especially amongst boys? Pam On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Jessie Hume <vegan_taste_ test (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > 2 questions, just wondering if any of you knowledgeable people know about > this stuff... > > Bear with me here... > > DDT > > Just say I was exposed to DDT in utero or as a bub, is there any way that > you can test for such a thing? It seems my endo thinks I may (may, not > confirmed yet) be going through early menopause, I also have epilepsy and my > immune system is basically screwed with multiple auto-immune disorders > starting with mastitus at 8 years old (I'm 30). My Dad has sort of rattled > on for years about DDT and all the stillborn babies our friends had when I > was young - I guess it got me curious. I'm sure it's too late to do anything > about it but I wonder if anyone knows about this sort of thing? > > TOMATOES > > Also, I need to heal my damaged tummy and stay away from all acidic foods > which makes my veganism exceedingly difficult. My question is, who knows > about acid free (or low acid) tomatoes? Are they really better? Or is vine > ripened better? Are these GM? I always cook the tomatoes but I'm still > concerned, that they still may be contributing toward cystitis and are > aggravating my tum. Tomatoes are in almost everything vegan that we to eat, > so I was hoping that acid free would be a good alternative. I love them and > I'm resisting giving them up. > > > Here's the list of foods I have to avoid if you're still with me (you > vegan-and-gluten free people have heard this before but... citrus fruits, > gluten, chocolate & all caffiened foods, alcohol, entire onion & garlic > family, deadly nightshade foods plus chilli, capsicum and all soy > products... so basically, anything delicious. I'm saying it again because > anyone else out there who has such a diet, I'd love to hear from you > personally! > > x > > Jess > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Sent from Mail. > A Smarter Inbox. http://uk.docs. / nowyoucan. html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 The Deadly Nightshade Family (of which tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant and peppers are members) all have elevated levels of alkaloids, that have nothing to do with the acidity. For some more information on these powerful chemicals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae which may clarify why avoiding these foods helps a lot of people feel better. Yeah I know, I was just hoping if I ate acid free ones I would have less of a reaction to them! But I suppose that won't make them any less deady nightshady! I'm ever writing lists of safe foods and planting them around the house. I will try some of those fruits you suggested from ethinic stores...I can't say I'm at " embrace " yet... maybe one day... I'd rather be a healthy little bean. Deborah Pageau <dpageau Hi Jess; It's can seem tough to have to avoid a long list of foods like that, I hear ya! I find it helps to focus on what I CAN have, rather than on what I can't. You were asking about eating tomatoes, but since you have to avoid the deadly nightshade family, that's really not an issue, is it? The Deadly Nightshade family is tomatoes, peppers (which includes chilli peppers and is the source of capsicum), egg plant and potatoes. There's LOTS of food other than those on your " avoid " list though. Grapes, pears, apples, bananas; many multicoloured legumes other than soy; many multi-coloured veggies (sweet potatoes and yams are NOT deadly nightshades) . The trick to having a happy eating experience is exploring what you CAN have. It gets to be fun and surprisingly delicious. ... and the benefits to health can be surprisingly good too! Carob offers some consolation when chocolate is off the list. Eliminating gluten just means you have to start finding non-gluten grains. Our general staple is rice in a rainbow of shades and textures; quinoa, teff, buckwheat, amaranthe, sorghum and some excellent gluten free baking mixes on the market these days. Herbal teas (have you discovered Rooiboos yet?) help with avoiding caffeined beverages; sparkling fruit juices help with the need to avoid alcohol. If you are having trouble finding enough foods on your CAN eat list, explore some new grocery stores. Ethnic stores offer new options. Ever had Durien? Lichees? Plantain?? ...all very nummy! Embrace the learning curve and what may seem like a burdensome and onorous uphill battle now, may turn into a glorious adventure! Wishing you all the best... Deborah Here's the list of foods I have to avoid if you're still with me (you vegan-and-gluten free people have heard this before but... citrus fruits, gluten, chocolate & all caffiened foods, alcohol, entire onion & garlic family, deadly nightshade foods plus chilli, capsicum and all soy products... so basically, anything delicious. I'm saying it again because anyone else out there who has such a diet, I'd love to hear from you personally! Jess. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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