Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I thought MSG by nature (Glutamate) had gluten in it? On 6/12/08, akua456 <akua123 wrote: > > --- In <%40>, > " catchadream04 " > <recyclednew wrote: > > > > I just got this recipe and it sounds really good. I haven't tried them > > yet, but egg replacer and soy cheese (or no cheese) can be used to > > make them vegan. I'm going to try mushrooms and olives because that's > > my favorite. Later I'm going to put together a list of substitutions > > for everybody too, because I found a lot of info in a couple books I > > have. Also make sure your herbs are gluten free. I noticed some > > containing MSG, which is a gluten! > > > > > > Actually, it's my understanding that as long as it's made in the US, > MSG is gluten-free. Some people may also have a reaction to MSG, though. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 http://www.msgtruth.org/msgand2.htm On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Tanya Pazitny <tpazitny wrote: > I thought MSG by nature (Glutamate) had gluten in it? > > On 6/12/08, akua456 <akua123 <akua123%40excite.com>> wrote: > > > > --- In <%40> > <%40>, > > > " catchadream04 " > > <recyclednew wrote: > > > > > > I just got this recipe and it sounds really good. I haven't tried them > > > yet, but egg replacer and soy cheese (or no cheese) can be used to > > > make them vegan. I'm going to try mushrooms and olives because that's > > > my favorite. Later I'm going to put together a list of substitutions > > > for everybody too, because I found a lot of info in a couple books I > > > have. Also make sure your herbs are gluten free. I noticed some > > > containing MSG, which is a gluten! > > > > > > > > > > Actually, it's my understanding that as long as it's made in the US, > > MSG is gluten-free. Some people may also have a reaction to MSG, though. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 glutamate is not gluten necessarily. Autolyzed yeast has glutamate. We need glutamate for brain function it's just synthetics that are problematic. BL On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Tanya Pazitny <tpazitny wrote: > I thought MSG by nature (Glutamate) had gluten in it? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 MSG can possibly contain trace amounts of gluten. In most cases it's impossible to be sure. In many herb and spice products, MSG and certain anti-caking agents do contain gluten. I have had problems using spices with MSG and many celiacs I know have had problems with it as well. I oftered the warning because I don't want to see anybody getting sick. Use your own judgement, write to companies, and protect yourself. Like I said before, my personal motto is when in doubt, don't eat it. Here is a wesite that list gluten free products and some dairy free as well products... http://www.fastq.com/~jbpratt/recipes/allergiesintol/gf/products.html On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Brenda-Lee Olson < shalomaleichemacademy wrote: > glutamate is not gluten necessarily. Autolyzed yeast has glutamate. We > need glutamate for brain function it's just synthetics that are > problematic. > > BL > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Tanya Pazitny <tpazitny<tpazitny%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > I thought MSG by nature (Glutamate) had gluten in it? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 This link suggests that excitotoxins (specifically glutamic acid and aparic acid) may relate to how the villi are damaged. It does not indicate that all glutamic acid comes from wheat. In fact, I think, it indicates the opposite: A veterinarian, recently diagnosed with celiac disease, has developed a theory about how celiac disease and the excitatory neurotransmitters glutamic acid and aspartic acid play a role in the damage caused by this disease. Aspartic acid, was just mentioned in another article posted by LaDonna as being the reason aspartame is suspected as being responsible for the rise in ASDisorders. I think we need to be specific about sources. Glutamic acid is naturally occuring in many foods and CAN be sourced from wheat. Glutamic acid is an amino acid, and " Glutamate is a key molecule in cellular metabolism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolism>. In humans, dietary proteins <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteins> are broken down by digestion into amino acids<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acids>, which serves as metabolic fuel for other functional roles in the body. A key process in amino acid degradation is transamination<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transamination>, in which the amino group of an amino acid is transferred to an á-ketoacid, typically catalysed by a transaminase<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaminase>. " (quoted from wikipedia) The problem came in 1908 when a japanese scientist decided to isolate what made is favourite kombu soup taste so good. He isolate glutamate and called it umami (yumminess in japanese). Sometimes when we generalize we throw out the baby with the bath water. Tampering with wheat has caused loads of problems, there is no question of that, but one theory that the glutamic acid may be the culprit doesn't mean all glutamic acid comes from wheat. BL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Anybody concerned about or with a sensitivity to MSG should read this article I just found... http://www.livingwithout.com/features/vault_msg.html On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Brenda-Lee Olson < shalomaleichemacademy wrote: > This link suggests that excitotoxins (specifically glutamic acid and aparic > acid) may relate to how the villi are damaged. It does not indicate that > all glutamic acid comes from wheat. In fact, I think, it indicates the > opposite: > > A veterinarian, recently diagnosed with celiac disease, has developed a > theory about how celiac disease and the excitatory neurotransmitters > glutamic acid and aspartic acid play a role in the damage caused by this > disease. > > Aspartic acid, was just mentioned in another article posted by LaDonna as > being the reason aspartame is suspected as being responsible for the rise > in > ASDisorders. > > I think we need to be specific about sources. Glutamic acid is naturally > occuring in many foods and CAN be sourced from wheat. Glutamic acid is an > amino acid, and " Glutamate is a key molecule in cellular > metabolism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolism>. > In humans, dietary proteins <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteins> are > broken down by digestion into amino > acids<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acids>, > which serves as metabolic fuel for other functional roles in the body. A > key > process in amino acid degradation is > transamination<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transamination>, > in which the amino group of an amino acid is transferred to an á-ketoacid, > typically catalysed by a > transaminase<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaminase>. " > (quoted from wikipedia) > > The problem came in 1908 when a japanese scientist decided to isolate what > made is favourite kombu soup taste so good. He isolate glutamate and > called > it umami (yumminess in japanese). > > Sometimes when we generalize we throw out the baby with the bath water. > > Tampering with wheat has caused loads of problems, there is no question of > that, but one theory that the glutamic acid may be the culprit doesn't mean > all glutamic acid comes from wheat. > > BL > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I don't, but I have wondered about this in terms of grains. I personally do not have any problems with gluten (although I am told that I was considered to have celiac disease as a child), but I have insulin resistance, and my blood sugar skyrockets when I eat grains -- good, whole grains like brown rice, quinoa, even oats.. --Donna Faith K-Brooks-- out of lurk mode for the moment. www.unskoolbookshop.com _____________________________ " The fatal pedagogical error is to throw answers, like stones, at the heads of those who have not yet asked the questions. " --Paul Tillich _____________________________ " Freedom is not something that anybody can be given. Freedom is something people take, and people are as free as they want to be. " --James Baldwin ______________________________\ ________ Dissent is patriotic. _____________________________ " But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy. " --Plutarch ______________ Rhonda wrote: > Does anyone have any info on any links between gluten intolerance and > risk of diabetes, the relationship of celiac disease to allergies and > sugar cravings? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 This should keep you busy for a while... http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read/2003/03/01/3115.html http://fnic.nal.usda.gov/nal_display/index.php?info_center=4 & tax_level=2 & tax_sub\ ject=278 & topic_id=1379 http://journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/ymai/medline/related/MDLN.1576155\ 5 http://www.niams.nih.gov/Health_Info/Bone/Osteoporosis/Conditions_Behaviors/celi\ ac.asp http://goldbamboo.com/relate-tl1480-tr2589.html http://www.celiacdiseaseinfo.org/candida_connection.htm http://candidapage.com/cccomp.shtml http://www.glutenfreeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=33004 http://www.glycemicindexhelp.com/celiac-disease.html http://www.glycemicindexhelp.com/index.php http://www.pharmaceutical-int.com/categories/coeliac-disease/coeliac-disease-and\ -pancreatic-exocrine-insufficiency.asp http://www.indianjgastro.com/article.asp?issn=0254-8860;year=2007;volume=26;issu\ e=1;spage=41;epage=42;aulast=Sood On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:17 PM, rhonda wathen <rwathen00 wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm sorry I have not introduced myself sooner, I joined a few weeks ago and > have been enjoying recieving the messages and badly-needed gluten-free > recipes. Brenda, your information was very interesting. Does anyone have any > info on any links between gluten intolerance and risk of diabetes, the > relationship of celiac disease to allergies and sugar cravings? > > Thank you, > > Rhonda > Maryland > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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