Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hi Sherry, Good for you for losing that weight, sticking with the diet, and thinking of your husband's best interest (not making him shop all the time) I'm new to raw food too, but I think freezing your fruits and veggies would be good. I like to disregard the peel of ripe bananas, break into three pieces (per each banana), put in a bag, and freeze them. I do this all the time and the frozen pieces are great in smoothies! Your comment: " I may get to the point where I want to leave the house again!!!!!! (YEAH)! " makes me believe that you almost want a reason or have the desire to overcome your fear of leaving the house. Based on that comment, I think you can do it! Keep challenging your fear, and get the support of others! Regards, Jen Sherry <dobeythehouseelf wrote: Hello all.... I am new to the raw foods and have many questions. My main thing is, I have been having trouble keeping my fruits and veggies fresh. Is there a site that maybe tells the best way to handle and store certain kinds? I live in the desert and there just isnt a lot of fresh grown anything around here, so everything from the store is already been sitting around for a while. I wanted to start freezing some things to maybe help them keep longer, is this ok when eating raw?? I have a seal a meal vacume system, but I only have the bags so far, I dont have any of the canisters yet. I cant get to the store everyday. I am a home bound person (agoraphobic) and my hubby (bless him) has been doing my shopping, but he's getting tired of going to the store 3-4 times a week to keep up with the fresh produce needs. So any tips? Can I freeze fruits and veggies and still consider them raw? Doesnt freezing destroy the enzymes the way heat does?? And...there are some fruits that are sold in the freezer section at the store, mainly the strawberries. They keep longer, and are cheaper than buying fresh here in the desert? Is it the same??? I know there are going to be about 3 million opinions on this, I just want to know if in theroy this would still be considered raw? I am aiming for as close to 100% as I can. But my hubby doesnt want to go to the store more than twice a week, which I think is fair of him! So far this is the best food plan I have ever been on and want to stay on it. I have been batteling graves disesase for 3 years now, and after the radiation treatment (I know...lets not get into that...lol) it became impossible to lose weight. (they destroyed my thyroid) and so I gained a bunch of weight. I was / am miserable, I tried everything to lose weight, and get my life back, but the first and only thing that has worked in over 2 years is eating raw. For the first time, I have seen some results and it made me cry. I started eating raw a month ago and have lost (for the first time) 17 pounds. I have to keep this going, but I have to figure out a way to make my fruits and veggies last longer so my hubby doesnt lose it...LOL!!! ANy help would be so appreciated. You have all been wonderful so far and I am more thankful than you could imagine for all of the hlep and tips you have all given so far! Thanks again! I may get to the point where I want to leave the house again!!!!!! (YEAH)! What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Great job goin raw and keeping commited! The best way to keep foods fresh is in the fridge, or perhaps a cool garage or storage room. There is an amazing new product I can get you for your fridge that will keep food fresh up to 40% longer. Talk to me off list about that. (wolfmother1) As far as freezing.....Berries are still considered raw even if they are frozen. A lot of raw foodists eat frozen durian, too. Berries are the only thing I eat frozen. I have eaten strict 100% live foods for 2 years, and I wouldn't eat anything that has been saved in one of those sealers. It's totally up to you what you want to create! A choice that may work well for you is a dehydrator if you don't already have one. The one you want is an Excalibur becuase it has the fan in the back instead of the bottom, wich creates even drying. It also has a tempurature control on it, so you can dehydrate at low temps, plus some models have a timer on them. (I can get you an awesome deal on that, too!) This way, your husband could purchase pounds of fruit and you could dehydrate most of it before it went bad. Dehydrated fruit purchased at the stores is almost never Live because they use high heat to dry the food fast - which, of course, destroys the enzymes. Always try to eat as many fresh foods as possible, your body just deals with it better, but for those days that you can't get the fresh, at least you would have beautiful dehydrated foods. Remember to drink extra water! As far as your thyroid....do you have any of it left? Raw foods that really support the thyroid in getting healthy are Young Thai Coconuts (or coconut oil) and iodine. Iodine can be found in sea vegetables (nori, dulse, wakame, etc). You can purchase sprinkles or just buy them whole and use a coffee grinder to chop them small. David Wolfe (in " Eating For Beauty " ) says to use up to 3 tablespoons per day for better metabolism (this works because it feeds and heals the thyroid) or you can find this amount in 1 young coconut. I am not sure if young thai coconuts are readily available for you in the desert - coconut oil may be better. I will have to get back to you on the best brand....still waiting to hear from someone on that. Here is a link from Raw Guru on what young coconuts look like and how to open them He's using a very sharp knife! And watch your speakers, as there is Caribbean music playing. http://www.rawguru.com/html/openyoungcoconut.html To your health! Paula Sherry <dobeythehouseelf wrote: Hello all.... I am new to the raw foods and have many questions. My main thing is, I have been having trouble keeping my fruits and veggies fresh. Is there a site that maybe tells the best way to handle and store certain kinds? I live in the desert and there just isnt a lot of fresh grown anything around here, so everything from the store is already been sitting around for a while. I wanted to start freezing some things to maybe help them keep longer, is this ok when eating raw?? I have a seal a meal vacume system, but I only have the bags so far, I dont have any of the canisters yet. I cant get to the store everyday. I am a home bound person (agoraphobic) and my hubby (bless him) has been doing my shopping, but he's getting tired of going to the store 3-4 times a week to keep up with the fresh produce needs. So any tips? Can I freeze fruits and veggies and still consider them raw? Doesnt freezing destroy the enzymes the way heat does?? And...there are some fruits that are sold in the freezer section at the store, mainly the strawberries. They keep longer, and are cheaper than buying fresh here in the desert? Is it the same??? I know there are going to be about 3 million opinions on this, I just want to know if in theroy this would still be considered raw? I am aiming for as close to 100% as I can. But my hubby doesnt want to go to the store more than twice a week, which I think is fair of him! So far this is the best food plan I have ever been on and want to stay on it. I have been batteling graves disesase for 3 years now, and after the radiation treatment (I know...lets not get into that...lol) it became impossible to lose weight. (they destroyed my thyroid) and so I gained a bunch of weight. I was / am miserable, I tried everything to lose weight, and get my life back, but the first and only thing that has worked in over 2 years is eating raw. For the first time, I have seen some results and it made me cry. I started eating raw a month ago and have lost (for the first time) 17 pounds. I have to keep this going, but I have to figure out a way to make my fruits and veggies last longer so my hubby doesnt lose it...LOL!!! ANy help would be so appreciated. You have all been wonderful so far and I am more thankful than you could imagine for all of the hlep and tips you have all given so far! Thanks again! I may get to the point where I want to leave the house again!!!!!! (YEAH)! What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hi Sherry, I have had the same problem with product and unfortunately have not found really great solution other than buying certain things unripened and letting them ripen in the house. For instance, I always lose avocados, bananas, and plantains. I just don't eat them fast enough. But Paula seems to have a lot of great info for you. I just wanted to write and say that it sounds like you are very committed and seeing progress, so great job! Congrats to you for everything that you have achieved and are still achieving. May your health improve more and more every day until a day comes when you can't remember what it felt like to be without optimum health. All the best, S~~ rawfood , Sherry <dobeythehouseelf wrote: > > Hello all.... > > I am new to the raw foods and have many questions. > > My main thing is, I have been having trouble keeping my fruits and veggies fresh. Is there a site that maybe tells the best way to handle and store certain kinds? > > I live in the desert and there just isnt a lot of fresh grown anything around here, so everything from the store is already been sitting around for a while. > > I wanted to start freezing some things to maybe help them keep longer, is this ok when eating raw?? I have a seal a meal vacume system, but I only have the bags so far, I dont have any of the canisters yet. > > I cant get to the store everyday. I am a home bound person (agoraphobic) and my hubby (bless him) has been doing my shopping, but he's getting tired of going to the store 3-4 times a week to keep up with the fresh produce needs. > > So any tips? Can I freeze fruits and veggies and still consider them raw? Doesnt freezing destroy the enzymes the way heat does?? > > And...there are some fruits that are sold in the freezer section at the store, mainly the strawberries. They keep longer, and are cheaper than buying fresh here in the desert? Is it the same??? > > I know there are going to be about 3 million opinions on this, I just want to know if in theroy this would still be considered raw? I am aiming for as close to 100% as I can. But my hubby doesnt want to go to the store more than twice a week, which I think is fair of him! > > So far this is the best food plan I have ever been on and want to stay on it. I have been batteling graves disesase for 3 years now, and after the radiation treatment (I know...lets not get into that...lol) it became impossible to lose weight. (they destroyed my thyroid) and so I gained a bunch of weight. > > I was / am miserable, I tried everything to lose weight, and get my life back, but the first and only thing that has worked in over 2 years is eating raw. For the first time, I have seen some results and it made me cry. I started eating raw a month ago and have lost (for the first time) 17 pounds. > > I have to keep this going, but I have to figure out a way to make my fruits and veggies last longer so my hubby doesnt lose it...LOL!!! > > ANy help would be so appreciated. > > You have all been wonderful so far and I am more thankful than you could imagine for all of the hlep and tips you have all given so far! > > Thanks again! > > I may get to the point where I want to leave the house again!!!!!! (YEAH)! > > > > > > What are the most popular cars? Find out at Autos > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 My question is about Rice Dream milk. I had noticed on the carton that Barley was not listed. I distinctly remember seeing it as an ingredient in the past and avoided it. I emailed them about the ingredients. The answer I got was that their barley protein is gluten free. Their answer did not make sense to me. Barley is still not listed on the label or their web site. Isn't barley protein from barely which would mean it contains gluten? I am hesitant to try it. Thanks, Danielle " jqnlf1 " <jqnlf1 Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:00:31 PM Re: Question: Thanks for all the feedback regarding the fries. I thought that they had taken out the beef flavoring and was surprised to find it listed on their web-site. After all the uproar in the past, I thought that it was taken care of and my kids and I were still eating them, thinking they were vegetarian/ vegan. The reason I checked was to verify the gluten-free part. I am still awaiting a response from the company and was hoping that the web-site I was on was mistaken or out-of-date. Sigh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 found this on http://www.enabling.org/ia/celiac/milkalt.html .... Rice Dream - **Not gluten-free** William Elkus <Maxwell 14 Nov 1994 I just got off the phone with David Nickerson, Consumer Affairs Manager, Imagine Foods (415) 327-1444. David confirmed to me that _all_ flavors of Rice Dream use barley enzymes in the preparation of the rice. I had been warned of this fact by California Natural Products, which ... uses these barley enzymes for making [Rice Dream's] rice syrups. California Natural Products told me that although they do their best to wash out all the barley, there is the potential for gluten residue and they cannot certify their product as gluten free. David said that many Celiacs report using Rice Dream without having a problem. Each person must make their own decision about this issue. Some Celiac support groups warn that there is no established minimum level of gluten ingestion without damage..... In addition, David confirmed that the vanilla used in Vanilla Rice Dream is prepared from grain alcohol. Many celiac groups warn that products prepared with grain alcohol can also contribute a gluten residue to the end-product (unless it is 100% corn alcohol)...[others disagree with this] David said that his company is aware of the gluten residue issue but feels at this time that the flavor of the product would be compromised by using other methods of preparation. Cheryl Mitchell, California Natural Products, (209) 858-2525. Gary Roberts <groberts 16 Nov 1995 The following quote is from a letter from Jeannette Toneros, Consumer Relations Manager of Imagine Foods, manufacturers of Rice Dream... " ...Our patented enzymatic process utilizes enzymes, which are grown on various grains including barley, to convert the complex carbohydrates in brown rice to naturally occurring sugars...the actual grains used to grow the enzymes are discarded after the enzymes are extracted...The barley protein in the final Rice Dream product, if present at all, would occur in microscopic parts per million amounts. In addition, the enzymes are essentially used up in the process...It is therefore highly unlikely, but still possible, that gluten may exist in minute amounts in the final product. " Bill Elkus <Bill_Elkus 8 Feb 1996 I received a return call today from Jeannete Toneros at Imagine Foods, the producer of Rice Dream (phone 415-327-1444). Back in November 1994, I posted to our List that Rice Dream used barley enzymes, and I wanted to get an update on their product. Imagine Food purchases the component which uses barley from California Natural Products. According to Jeannette, CNP has been unsuccessful in its attempts to find a suitable non-barley source for these particular enzymes. Jeannette maintains that the amount of gluten remaining in Rice Dream is in the " parts per million " , but they have no lab assay to back up their statement. I then spoke with Joe Hall at CNP. He appeared quite willing to help Imagine quantify the maximum possible gluten content in Rice Dream, and promised to fax his calculations as soon as they are available. I also recommended that Imagine and/or CNP get their product tested at a commercial lab so that Celiacs can get more definitive information about its gluten content. Both promised to look into this. If any of you know of an appropriate laboratory in America, please write to me privately at < belkus) Don Kasarda posted a note back on November 19, 1995 that: >...To the best of my knowledge, the smallest amount that >has been tested with patients and shown (biopsies taken) >to have a definite effect is 0.1 gram per day (Catassi et al.) >rest deleted, see archive for further details A quart of Rice Dream should weigh about 1 kilogram (at least a liter of water does!). If Rice Dream had 100 parts per million of gluten, then a quart would contain 0.1 gram of gluten (if my calculations are correct) and should be of concern to most Celiacs. On the other hand, if Rice Dream had 1 part per million of gluten, it would appear to be acceptable to many more people. Therefore, it will be important to see the results of CNP's analysis. Naturally, I will report these back to the List. Stay tuned. P.S. In my prior phone call with Imagine, they also told me that they could not guarantee that the vanilla flavoring (found in some Rice Dream flavors) did not use a grain alcohol base. Some (but not all) celiac support groups recommend avoiding products with this attribute....that is another controversial topic. I did not check again on this particular point in my calls today. Bill Elkus <Bill_Elkus 15 Feb 1996 Joe Hall, Technical Sales Manager at California Natural Products (209) 858-2525 x224, in cooperation with Imagine Foods, has completed the analysis of Rice Dream mentioned in prior posts on our Celiac List. CNP makes the rice protein used by Imagine Foods in their Rice Dream products. He sent us the following fax: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " For the purpose of this calculation, a conservative approach was taken. If we are inaccurate, it should be on the side of overstating the extent of the problem. All protein from barley, regardless of solubility, molecular weight, or the fact that the protein is denatured during processing was assumed to be " bad " protein. " Summary of Calculations: Rice Dream Beverages: Under 5 mg protein per 240 ml serving; under 15 mg barley protein per quart. Rice Dream Puddings: Under 10 mg barley protein per individual serving. As of 2/15/96 it is anticipated that there will be zero barley protein on all product made after April 1996. Rice Dream Frozen Dessert. Under 15 mg barley protein per quart at present. As of 2/1/596 it is anticipated that there will be zero barley protein on all product made after May 1996. " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Of course, the natural question is " Is 10 or 15 mg of barley protein enough to harm a Celiac ? " A major unknown is what percentage of the barley protein in Rice Dream is " bad " for celiacs. I recall that about 80% of the wheat protein in bread is gluten, but the barley protein in Rice Dream may be proportionately far less harmful due to the processing involved. Even if the percentage of " bad " barley protein in the 10-15 mg of barley protein was known, there is no definitive answer to the question of how much can be tolerated per day. There is currently an active discussion on cel-pro (the discussion group for professionals in the celiac field) on this exact topic, and the listowners will post a summary of their discussion in a few weeks. Previous posts to this list by Don Kasarda have cited a study where 15 mg of gluten per day _did not_ cause observable damage via biopsy, and another study where 100 mg gluten per day _did_ cause discernible intestinal changes in celiacs. Each study had its own limitations and cannot be relied upon as the definitive answer. Also, it is inherently difficult to prove that " no damage " is caused, since one would have to look at every single system of the body, not just the gut lining. So.... we are each going to have to make our own decision as to whether or not to include Rice Dream products in our diet. At least after May, it appears the desserts will be OK. And for the beverage, at least we have an upper boundary on the amount of barley to assist us in our decision. Bill Elkus <Bill_Elkus Fri, 2 May 1997 15:54:46 EDT Yesterday I posted a long email about the gluten issues in Rice Dream, and I copied Lori Dunn, the Customer Service Manager at Imagine Foods. She sent me another email this morning to clarify a few points. Sorry to complicate things, but there are actually 3 gluten issues for Rice Dream: (1) Barley enzymes used in processing the rice. This was covered in yesterday's post. It is still a problem for Rice Dream beverage, but not a problem for the puddings and frozen desserts. (2) Grain alcohol used in the natural flavoring. This was also covered in yesterday's post. For those who deem grain alcohol off-limits, this is an issue with most puddings and frozen desserts. Check the label - if it says " natural flavors " , this issue exists. (3) Some of the flavors of the puddings and frozen desserts use barley malt as a product ingredient, particularly chocolate and carob candy. Check the label for " malt " . On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 6:46 PM, DMHS <dhsellers wrote: > My question is about Rice Dream milk. > > I had noticed on the carton that Barley was not listed. I distinctly > remember seeing it as an ingredient in the past and avoided it. I emailed > them about the ingredients. The answer I got was that their barley protein > is gluten free. Their answer did not make sense to me. Barley is still not > listed on the label or their web site. Isn't barley protein from barely > which would mean it contains gluten? I am hesitant to try it. > > Thanks, > Danielle > > > " jqnlf1 <jqnlf1%40windstream.net> " < > jqnlf1 <jqnlf1%40windstream.net>> > To: <%40> > Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:00:31 PM > Re: Question: > > Thanks for all the feedback regarding the fries. I thought that they > had taken out the beef flavoring and was surprised to find it listed on > their > web-site. After all the uproar in the past, I thought that it was taken > care of and my kids and I were still eating them, thinking they were > vegetarian/ > vegan. The reason I checked was to verify the gluten-free part. I am > still awaiting a response from the company and was hoping that the web-site > > I was on was mistaken or out-of-date. Sigh..... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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