Guest guest Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 are vegans or vegetarians, certainly not the politicians getting us into war. I think if there is ever a draft there might be vegetarian? I don't think they make special arrangements--does anybody know about this I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 I am a Vegan in the Air Force and they kind of make special considerations. There are vegetarian MREs (Field rations) But they aren't really vegan, you kind of have to piece together from other ones to make a full meal. They will do things for you in the chow hall, but you have to make it an issue, and then take a very active role in making sure that it gets taken care of. I brign food from home every day, and when we have field exercises, I make vegan Japanese rice balls, which are very field-friendly. I am the only vegan that I know of so far, but there are 1 or 2 vegetarians that I know of. I get a lot of grief from some people, but have actually convinced some people to at least cut down on their animal product consumption. If there are any other vegans in the mil out there, please speak up and let me know. "Adrien <adriens_mandolin" <adriens_mandolin wrote: are vegans or vegetarians, certainly not the politicians getting us into war. I think if there is ever a draft there might be vegetarian?I don't think they make special arrangements--does anybody know about this I wonder?To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 according to law and regs, the US military has to make " accomodations " to meal requirements and such but, doesn't mean it has to be edible i've known folks in the military, whose vegetarian alterno meals were jello and cottage cheese... but, they make vegetarian mre's, and can make vegan ones on request...dunno how edible they are tho i've known lotsa veggies who have fer some reason linked up with the military cheers fraggle " Adrien <adriens_mandolin " <adriens_mandolin wrote: >are vegans or vegetarians, certainly not the politicians getting us >into war. I think if there is ever a draft there might be vegetarian? >I don't think they make special arrangements--does anybody know >about this I wonder? > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Little problem here--Jell-O, because it is made of gelatin (read: the boiled hooves, bones, and hides of cows and pigs), Jell-O is in no way vegetarian. Danielle ----Original Message Follows---- EBbrewpunx RE: Don't think too many soliders Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:26:04 -0500 according to law and regs, the US military has to make " accomodations " to meal requirements and such but, doesn't mean it has to be edible i've known folks in the military, whose vegetarian alterno meals were jello and cottage cheese... but, they make vegetarian mre's, and can make vegan ones on request...dunno how edible they are tho i've known lotsa veggies who have fer some reason linked up with the military cheers fraggle " Adrien <adriens_mandolin " <adriens_mandolin wrote: >are vegans or vegetarians, certainly not the politicians getting us >into war. I think if there is ever a draft there might be vegetarian? >I don't think they make special arrangements--does anybody know >about this I wonder? > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 i know but, some folks don't care..... i've known folks who call themselves veg and eat fish and chicken, cuz, you know, chickens come from eggplants... sorry, aubergine to you folks over the pond.... fraggle " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart wrote: >Little problem here--Jell-O, because it is made of gelatin (read: the boiled >hooves, bones, and hides of cows and pigs), Jell-O is in no way vegetarian. > >Danielle > > >----Original Message Follows---- >EBbrewpunx > > >RE: Don't think too many soliders >Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:26:04 -0500 > >according to law and regs, the US military has to make " accomodations " to >meal requirements and such >but, doesn't mean it has to be edible >i've known folks in the military, whose vegetarian alterno meals were jello >and cottage cheese... >but, they make vegetarian mre's, and can make vegan ones on request...dunno >how edible they are tho >i've known lotsa veggies who have fer some reason linked up with the >military >cheers >fraggle > > > " Adrien <adriens_mandolin " <adriens_mandolin wrote: > > >are vegans or vegetarians, certainly not the politicians getting us > >into war. I think if there is ever a draft there might be vegetarian? > >I don't think they make special arrangements--does anybody know > >about this I wonder? > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 fraggle, don't get me started on them. another term that works my nerves is semi-vegetarian. Just say you don't eat red meat, for Gaia's sake, and leave it at that. Until I completely stopped eating meat, I never called myself vegetarian. And even in my first days of vegetarianism, I said I was trying it out until I realized I quite liked it. Danielle ----Original Message Follows---- EBbrewpunx RE: Don't think too many soliders Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:15:44 -0500 i know but, some folks don't care..... i've known folks who call themselves veg and eat fish and chicken, cuz, you know, chickens come from eggplants... sorry, aubergine to you folks over the pond.... fraggle " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart wrote: >Little problem here--Jell-O, because it is made of gelatin (read: the boiled >hooves, bones, and hides of cows and pigs), Jell-O is in no way vegetarian. > >Danielle > > >----Original Message Follows---- >EBbrewpunx > > >RE: Don't think too many soliders >Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:26:04 -0500 > >according to law and regs, the US military has to make " accomodations " to >meal requirements and such >but, doesn't mean it has to be edible >i've known folks in the military, whose vegetarian alterno meals were jello >and cottage cheese... >but, they make vegetarian mre's, and can make vegan ones on request...dunno >how edible they are tho >i've known lotsa veggies who have fer some reason linked up with the >military >cheers >fraggle > > > " Adrien <adriens_mandolin " <adriens_mandolin wrote: > > >are vegans or vegetarians, certainly not the politicians getting us > >into war. I think if there is ever a draft there might be vegetarian? > >I don't think they make special arrangements--does anybody know > >about this I wonder? > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 tis a growing trend, and it will probably only get worse as vegetarianism is quite trendy at the moment time to edumacate folks " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart wrote: >fraggle, > >don't get me started on them. another term that works my nerves is >semi-vegetarian. Just say you don't eat red meat, for Gaia's sake, and >leave it at that. Until I completely stopped eating meat, I never called >myself vegetarian. And even in my first days of vegetarianism, I said I was >trying it out until I realized I quite liked it. > >Danielle > > >----Original Message Follows---- >EBbrewpunx > > >RE: Don't think too many soliders >Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:15:44 -0500 > >i know >but, some folks don't care..... >i've known folks who call themselves veg and eat fish and chicken, cuz, you >know, chickens come from eggplants... >sorry, aubergine to you folks over the pond.... >fraggle > > " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart wrote: > > >Little problem here--Jell-O, because it is made of gelatin (read: the >boiled > >hooves, bones, and hides of cows and pigs), Jell-O is in no way >vegetarian. > > > >Danielle > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >EBbrewpunx > > > > > >RE: Don't think too many soliders > >Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:26:04 -0500 > > > >according to law and regs, the US military has to make " accomodations " to > >meal requirements and such > >but, doesn't mean it has to be edible > >i've known folks in the military, whose vegetarian alterno meals were >jello > >and cottage cheese... > >but, they make vegetarian mre's, and can make vegan ones on >request...dunno > >how edible they are tho > >i've known lotsa veggies who have fer some reason linked up with the > >military > >cheers > >fraggle > > > > > > " Adrien <adriens_mandolin " <adriens_mandolin wrote: > > > > >are vegans or vegetarians, certainly not the politicians getting us > > >into war. I think if there is ever a draft there might be vegetarian? > > >I don't think they make special arrangements--does anybody know > > >about this I wonder? > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Hi Fraggle / Danielle > tis a growing trend, and it will probably only get worse as vegetarianism is quite trendy at the moment > time to edumacate folks I agree! It irks me somewhat that the only reason we have to use the term " vegan " is because the term " vegetarian " was hijacked by folks who wanted to eat dairy and eggs etc. back in the 1950s. If too many people eating fish and chicken start calling themselves vegetarians, then what are now called vegetarians will probably hijack the term vegan, and we'll have to come up with something else... :-( BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 heck..i just call myself a fraggle hehehehheh usually i just use the term vegetarian anyways, since not everyone knows wot a vegan is , and vegetarian works well enough, and i can expand from there.. " Peter " <Snowbow wrote: >Hi Fraggle / Danielle > >> tis a growing trend, and it will probably only get worse as vegetarianism >is quite trendy at the moment >> time to edumacate folks > >I agree! It irks me somewhat that the only reason we have to use the term > " vegan " is because the term " vegetarian " was hijacked by folks who wanted to >eat dairy and eggs etc. back in the 1950s. If too many people eating fish >and chicken start calling themselves vegetarians, then what are now called >vegetarians will probably hijack the term vegan, and we'll have to come up >with something else... > :-( > >BB >Peter > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Did no one read my post on this? I am a Vegan in the AF if you have questions let me know. I don't like the fact that people who still eat fish and chix say they are veggies, it makes it harder for us to educate people! Peter <Snowbow wrote: Hi Fraggle / Danielle> tis a growing trend, and it will probably only get worse as vegetarianismis quite trendy at the moment> time to edumacate folksI agree! It irks me somewhat that the only reason we have to use the term"vegan" is because the term "vegetarian" was hijacked by folks who wanted toeat dairy and eggs etc. back in the 1950s. If too many people eating fishand chicken start calling themselves vegetarians, then what are now calledvegetarians will probably hijack the term vegan, and we'll have to come upwith something else...:-(BBPeter---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Hi Fraggle > heck..i just call myself a fraggle Hmmmm - now there's an idea. I think next time I go into a restaurant I'll ask them if they have any soya milk for the tea " since I'm a Fraggle " ....might start a trend! OK - so from now on, people who don't eat red meat are called vegetarians People who don't eat any meat are vegans People who don't eat any animal products are Fraggles :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Thanks, that is what I thought. I know soldiers make friends of cooks to get what they want sometimes. , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > according to law and regs, the US military has to make " accomodations " to meal requirements and such > but, doesn't mean it has to be edible > i've known folks in the military, whose vegetarian alterno meals were jello and cottage cheese... > but, they make vegetarian mre's, and can make vegan ones on request...dunno how edible they are tho > i've known lotsa veggies who have fer some reason linked up with the military > cheers > fraggle > > > " Adrien <adriens_mandolin> " <adriens_mandolin> wrote: > > >are vegans or vegetarians, certainly not the politicians getting us > >into war. I think if there is ever a draft there might be vegetarian? > >I don't think they make special arrangements--does anybody know > >about this I wonder? > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 works fer me its a trend i could stand to start and be a part of fraggle " Peter " <Snowbow wrote: >Hi Fraggle > >> heck..i just call myself a fraggle > >Hmmmm - now there's an idea. I think next time I go into a restaurant I'll >ask them if they have any soya milk for the tea " since I'm a >Fraggle " ....might start a trend! > >OK - so from now on, people who don't eat red meat are called vegetarians >People who don't eat any meat are vegans >People who don't eat any animal products are Fraggles :-) > >BB >Peter > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 I read somewhere that the term vegan was coined because it started with vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion. I am not at all shy about educating folks who eat chicken and fish that they are NOT vegetarians. But I won't get snarly about how meat=dead critter unless someone pisses me off. Danielle ----Original Message Follows---- " Peter " <Snowbow Re: Don't think too many soliders Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:14:37 -0000 Hi Fraggle / Danielle > tis a growing trend, and it will probably only get worse as vegetarianism is quite trendy at the moment > time to edumacate folks I agree! It irks me somewhat that the only reason we have to use the term " vegan " is because the term " vegetarian " was hijacked by folks who wanted to eat dairy and eggs etc. back in the 1950s. If too many people eating fish and chicken start calling themselves vegetarians, then what are now called vegetarians will probably hijack the term vegan, and we'll have to come up with something else... :-( BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 " Where is the questioning where is the protest song? Since when is skepticism un-American? Dissent's not treason but they talk like it's the same Those who disagree are afraid to show their face " --Sleater-Kinney _______________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 Hopefully, nobody will hijack it, so we can be assured that when we say, " I'm a Fraggle, " there had better not be any chicken miscarriages or udder pus in our food. Danielle ----Original Message Follows---- " Peter " <Snowbow Re: Don't think too many soliders Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:00:01 -0000 Hi Fraggle > heck..i just call myself a fraggle Hmmmm - now there's an idea. I think next time I go into a restaurant I'll ask them if they have any soya milk for the tea " since I'm a Fraggle " ....might start a trend! OK - so from now on, people who don't eat red meat are called vegetarians People who don't eat any meat are vegans People who don't eat any animal products are Fraggles :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 " Where is the questioning where is the protest song? Since when is skepticism un-American? Dissent's not treason but they talk like it's the same Those who disagree are afraid to show their face " --Sleater-Kinney _______________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 Hi Danielle > I read somewhere that the term vegan was coined because it started with > vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion. That is what veganism is nowadays - but the original term " vegetarian " meant someone who ate vegetables only (obviously with fruit / nuts / etc.) - but basically no animal products. If you think about it, the root word being " vegetable " , it's pretty obvious that it didn't originally include dairy, eggs, etc. since these have no connection to vegetables at all! BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 Actually, vegetarian came from " vegetus, " which is Latin, I believe, for fresh, wholesome, lively. Before 1847, they were known as Pythagoreans, after Pythagorus (yep, of the triangle theory), who advocated such a diet. I'm looking it up right now--there's a Web site called www.vegetus.org, and that also has information. Danielle ----Original Message Follows---- " Peter " <Snowbow Re: Don't think too many soliders Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:54:58 -0000 Hi Danielle > I read somewhere that the term vegan was coined because it started with > vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion. That is what veganism is nowadays - but the original term " vegetarian " meant someone who ate vegetables only (obviously with fruit / nuts / etc.) - but basically no animal products. If you think about it, the root word being " vegetable " , it's pretty obvious that it didn't originally include dairy, eggs, etc. since these have no connection to vegetables at all! BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 _______________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 Hi Danielle > Actually, vegetarian came from " vegetus, " which is Latin, I believe, for > fresh, wholesome, lively. I thought I'd have a little look in the OED, and interestingly, the word " vegetarian " is classified as a derivation of the word vegetable (which comes from the latin " vegeto " meaning " animate " ) - vegetable is defined as " Of, derived from, concerned with, comprising, plants esp opp. animal or mineral " . > Before 1847, they were known as Pythagoreans, > after Pythagorus (yep, of the triangle theory), who advocated such a diet. Ah - now if you want to talk about Pythagoreans, you've come to the right place :-) Pythagoras ran a philosophical / spiritual school in Italy during the 6th century BCE - very interesting philosophical stuff. Pythagoras was a bit of a collector of mystery traditions - he was initiated into the Phoenician mystery tradition, and all 4 Egyptian ones. He also spent some time in Babylon toward the end of the Jewish exile, and almost certainly learned a great deal from the Jewish (particularly Levite) priests. In his " school " , there were two classifications of students - the Pythagoreans who lived a particular way of life (diet, clothing, temperament, etc.) and had to undergo rigorous training (such as learning in complete silence for 5 years before gaining initiation). There were also the Pythagorists, who lived an otherwise " normal " life, but regularly attended lectures at the school - they were always seperated from the Pythagoreans by a veil! Sorry - that's not really relevant...anyway, the Pythagorean diet consisted of certain vegetables, fruit and ****fish**** - Pythagoreans were not vegetarian. Incidentally, they also had a bit of a thing against beans for some reason which escapes me right now. To equate a Pythagorean diet with vegetarianism or veganism is inaccurate, but I don't doubt that there have been people in every century who have followed a Pythagorean diet. I know that there are people around nowadays who do, and who do refer to it as such. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 Hey, Peter I've only been veg for a short time--just over a year--but this is what I've read. I checked the vegetus.org Web site, and vegetable does come from vegetus, according to them. So I guess you could say vegetarian, in a sense, comes from vegetable; I like to think they come from the same place. Danielle ----Original Message Follows---- " Peter " <Snowbow Re: Don't think too many soliders Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:49:51 -0000 Hi Danielle > Actually, vegetarian came from " vegetus, " which is Latin, I believe, for > fresh, wholesome, lively. I thought I'd have a little look in the OED, and interestingly, the word " vegetarian " is classified as a derivation of the word vegetable (which comes from the latin " vegeto " meaning " animate " ) - vegetable is defined as " Of, derived from, concerned with, comprising, plants esp opp. animal or mineral " . > Before 1847, they were known as Pythagoreans, > after Pythagorus (yep, of the triangle theory), who advocated such a diet. Ah - now if you want to talk about Pythagoreans, you've come to the right place :-) Pythagoras ran a philosophical / spiritual school in Italy during the 6th century BCE - very interesting philosophical stuff. Pythagoras was a bit of a collector of mystery traditions - he was initiated into the Phoenician mystery tradition, and all 4 Egyptian ones. He also spent some time in Babylon toward the end of the Jewish exile, and almost certainly learned a great deal from the Jewish (particularly Levite) priests. In his " school " , there were two classifications of students - the Pythagoreans who lived a particular way of life (diet, clothing, temperament, etc.) and had to undergo rigorous training (such as learning in complete silence for 5 years before gaining initiation). There were also the Pythagorists, who lived an otherwise " normal " life, but regularly attended lectures at the school - they were always seperated from the Pythagoreans by a veil! Sorry - that's not really relevant...anyway, the Pythagorean diet consisted of certain vegetables, fruit and ****fish**** - Pythagoreans were not vegetarian. Incidentally, they also had a bit of a thing against beans for some reason which escapes me right now. To equate a Pythagorean diet with vegetarianism or veganism is inaccurate, but I don't doubt that there have been people in every century who have followed a Pythagorean diet. I know that there are people around nowadays who do, and who do refer to it as such. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release 30/12/02 " Where is the questioning where is the protest song? Since when is skepticism un-American? Dissent's not treason but they talk like it's the same Those who disagree are afraid to show their face " --Sleater-Kinney _______________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 I've read where Vegans are called " true vegetarians " . I think it fits perfectly! nikki Believing something is possible is to make it come true. Friedrich Hebbel , " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart@h...> wrote: > I read somewhere that the term vegan was coined because it started with > vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion. I am not > at all shy about educating folks who eat chicken and fish that they are NOT > vegetarians. But I won't get snarly about how meat=dead critter unless > someone pisses me off. > > Danielle > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 I always tell people I am a strict vegetarian. It saves confusing moments when I know that people (especially in the Air Force) won't have any clue whatsoever what the word vegan means. It is hard being a vegan in the military though. It seems like even though I have been vegan for 6 months and vegetarian the whole time before that, people still think I eat fish, chicken, meat and dairy, and that a little bit of bacon in the greens will be alright. Whenever we have pot lucks, I always bring a dish that I can eat, and strangely enough it is always the one gone first. The other thing that is frustrating is that people assume that I can't eat out anywhere, but even Ruby Tuesday's (where I ate last night) is always willing to make me something special and just exceptionally tasty!! "nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack" <nikkimack wrote: I've read where Vegans are called "true vegetarians". I think it fits perfectly!nikki :)Believing something is possible is to make it come true.Friedrich Hebbel , "Danielle Kichler" <veggietart@h...> wrote:> I read somewhere that the term vegan was coined because it started with > vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion. I am not > at all shy about educating folks who eat chicken and fish that they are NOT > vegetarians. But I won't get snarly about how meat=dead critter unless > someone pisses me off.> > Danielle> > > To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 I've also heard " strict vegetarian, " but I think that refers to those who don't eat any animal products for health reasons, as opposed to ethical reasons, and may not carry over into other areas of their life (i.e., they might not be careful about buying products, such as soaps, that have no animal products). Danielle ----Original Message Follows---- " nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack " <nikkimack Re: Don't think too many soliders Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:47:47 -0000 I've read where Vegans are called " true vegetarians " . I think it fits perfectly! nikki Believing something is possible is to make it come true. Friedrich Hebbel , " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart@h...> wrote: > I read somewhere that the term vegan was coined because it started with > vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion. I am not > at all shy about educating folks who eat chicken and fish that they are NOT > vegetarians. But I won't get snarly about how meat=dead critter unless > someone pisses me off. > > Danielle > > > " Where is the questioning where is the protest song? Since when is skepticism un-American? Dissent's not treason but they talk like it's the same Those who disagree are afraid to show their face " --Sleater-Kinney _______________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 strict vegetarian works well i luv it when ya go somehere and they go " oh, you can eat the soup, it just has a little bacon in it " or " just pick the meat out " if i'm feelin nasty i'll retort with " hey, that just a lil ground up dogsh*t in it, just pick it out " er " you don't mind a lil baby fat in ter soup do you? " luckily i'm rarely that nasty Veronica <salome6v wrote: > >I always tell people I am a strict vegetarian. It saves confusing moments when I know that people (especially in the Air Force) won't have any clue whatsoever what the word vegan means. It is hard being a vegan in the military though. It seems like even though I have been vegan for 6 months and vegetarian the whole time before that, people still think I eat fish, chicken, meat and dairy, and that a little bit of bacon in the greens will be alright. Whenever we have pot lucks, I always bring a dish that I can eat, and strangely enough it is always the one gone first. The other thing that is frustrating is that people assume that I can't eat out anywhere, but even Ruby Tuesday's (where I ate last night) is always willing to make me something special and just exceptionally tasty!! > " nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack " <nikkimack wrote:I've read where Vegans are called " true vegetarians " . I think it fits >perfectly! > >nikki >Believing something is possible is to make it come true. >Friedrich Hebbel > > > , " Danielle Kichler " ><veggietart@h...> wrote: >> I read somewhere that the term vegan was coined because it started >with >> vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion. I >am not >> at all shy about educating folks who eat chicken and fish that they >are NOT >> vegetarians. But I won't get snarly about how meat=dead critter >unless >> someone pisses me off. >> >> Danielle >> >> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2003 Report Share Posted January 27, 2003 I can be that nasty, but there are usually extenuating circumstances. I try to be as nice and as informative as possible. EBbrewpunx wrote: strict vegetarian works well:)i luv it when ya go somehere and they go "oh, you can eat the soup, it just has a little bacon in it" or "just pick the meat out"if i'm feelin nasty i'll retort with "hey, that just a lil ground up dogsh*t in it, just pick it out" er "you don't mind a lil baby fat in ter soup do you?"luckily i'm rarely that nastyVeronica <salome6v wrote:>>I always tell people I am a strict vegetarian. It saves confusing moments when I know that people (especially in the Air Force) won't have any clue whatsoever what the word vegan means. It is hard being a vegan in the military though. It seems like even though I have been vegan for 6 months and vegetarian the whole time before that, people still think I eat fish, chicken, meat and dairy, and that a little bit of bacon in the greens will be alright. Whenever we have pot lucks, I always bring a dish that I can eat, and strangely enough it is always the one gone first. The other thing that is frustrating is that people assume that I can't eat out anywhere, but even Ruby Tuesday's (where I ate last night) is always willing to make me something special and just exceptionally tasty!!> "nikki_mackovitch <nikkimack" <nikkimack wrote:I've read where Vegans are called "true vegetarians". I think it fits >perfectly!>>nikki >Believing something is possible is to make it come true.>Friedrich Hebbel>>> , "Danielle Kichler" ><veggietart@h...> wrote:>> I read somewhere that the term vegan was coined because it started >with >> vegetarianism and followed it through to its logical conclusion. I >am not >> at all shy about educating folks who eat chicken and fish that they >are NOT >> vegetarians. But I won't get snarly about how meat=dead critter >unless >> someone pisses me off.>> >> Danielle>> >> >> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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