Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 What's the verdict on dark chocolate? Is it made with dairy products? What about carob? Thanks, Minty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 http://www.greenandblacks.com/html/our_chocolate_bars.php i know the DARK 70% , MAYA GOLD are both vegan and say so on there packageing, the maya gold one is dark chocolate with spices and it is realy nice, if your in the Uk they stock them in Sainsburys and probably alot of other places , " mint_faery " <ahinkson@p...> wrote: > What's the verdict on dark chocolate? Is it made with dairy products? > What about carob? > > Thanks, > > Minty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Hi Minty Carob is another bean like cocoa. Some dark chocolates are vegan, some aren't. All Plamil products are vegan, and Booja Booja are vegan. Bourneville and Frys Creams arent. I like the Elizabeth Shaw Mint Chip Dark Chocolates best. Jo > What's the verdict on dark chocolate? Is it made with dairy products? > What about carob? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release 25/02/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Some dark chocolates are, some aren't. You must, of course, read the labels. Danielle Support our troops; bring them home safely. ----Original Message Follows---- " mint_faery " <ahinkson dark chocolate? Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:16:13 -0000 What's the verdict on dark chocolate? Is it made with dairy products? What about carob? Thanks, Minty _______________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Good Morning! Typically dark chocolate does not have any dairy in it, but depending on the product you're better off to read the label. It's amazing the things they sneak into the tiniest of places! Carob is non-dairy as well. But again depending on the product you should read the label. Hope this helps! nikki , " mint_faery " <ahinkson@p...> wrote: > What's the verdict on dark chocolate? Is it made with dairy products? > What about carob? > > Thanks, > > Minty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 In a message dated 3/26/03 9:16:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, ahinkson writes: What's the verdict on dark chocolate? Is it made with dairy products? What about carob? Thanks, Minty depends on the dark chocolate...ya have to read ingredients.... some has dairy, some doesn't.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 I thought it was the other way around that, typically, dark chocolate DOES have dairy, but a few brands don't. At least, here in the UK. Tho I believe dark continental chocolate is usually vegan... Viv nikki_mackovitch [nikkimack]Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: dark chocolate?Good Morning!Typically dark chocolate does not have any dairy in it, but depending on the product you're better off to read the label. It's amazing the things they sneak into the tiniest of places! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 In a message dated 3/29/03 10:09:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, slipknot_sammy writes: what glues are not made from animals ? many glues are made from plant material er petroleum polymers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 Dark chocolate itself is generally vegan, but check the wrappers list of ingredients carefully for butteroil and in some cases lactates. It can in some cases be vegan , but produced in a factory on a production line with dairy chocolate. As to whether the packaging it comes in is animal free, that is possibly unlikely ( glues/dyes). I hope that this has not put you off. Pete H. ( p.s. don`t mention Bourneville!)Bloody Cadburys..... Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 Is it terribly unvegan to buy otherwise vegan chocolates produced on machinery with dairy chocolate? I mean, no animals suffered to make the chocolate if it's dairy-free, right? A lot of factories can't afford separate machinery for milk chocolate and vegan chocolate. Endangered Species has a few vegan types of bars, but they're made on the same machinery as their milk chocolate bars, as does Newman's Own. It's hard to find a company that makes vegan bars on dedicated machinery. Danielle Support our troops; bring them home safely. ----Original Message Follows---- swpgh01 , Re: dark chocolate? Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:16:33 GMT+00:00 Dark chocolate itself is generally vegan, but check the wrappers list of ingredients carefully for butteroil and in some cases lactates. It can in some cases be vegan , but produced in a factory on a production line with dairy chocolate. As to whether the packaging it comes in is animal free, that is possibly unlikely ( glues/dyes). I hope that this has not put you off. Pete H. ( p.s. don`t mention Bourneville!)Bloody Cadburys..... Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com _______________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 In a message dated 3/29/03 1:27:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, veggietart writes: You've got a point. But somehow I see dairy as less objectionable than meat. Maybe it's because you can get milk without killing the animal all vegans be different... depends on why yer vegan and how far ya wanna take it.... if ya wanted to, ya can make the argument that dairy is worse from a health perspective(name one other creature that drinks the milk of another..go on..i'll wait) from a humane perspective...now wait before ya jump all over me..it could be argued that its better to be slaughtered after several months then live a life of slavery bound in a cage pumped full of hormones and antibiotics, amde pregnant every year, just to have yer child ripped away from ya. have vacuum devices stuck on yer ..privates ..and.... ya get the point just playin devils advocate cheers fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 what glues are not made from animals ? , " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart@h...> wrote: > Is it terribly unvegan to buy otherwise vegan chocolates produced on > machinery with dairy chocolate? I mean, no animals suffered to make the > chocolate if it's dairy-free, right? A lot of factories can't afford > separate machinery for milk chocolate and vegan chocolate. Endangered > Species has a few vegan types of bars, but they're made on the same > machinery as their milk chocolate bars, as does Newman's Own. It's hard to > find a company that makes vegan bars on dedicated machinery. > > Danielle > > > > Support our troops; bring them home safely. > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > swpgh01@t... > > , > Re: dark chocolate? > Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:16:33 GMT+00:00 > > > Dark chocolate itself is generally vegan, but check the wrappers list of > ingredients carefully for butteroil and in some cases lactates. It can in > some cases be vegan , but produced in a factory on a production line with > dairy chocolate. As to whether the packaging it comes in is animal free, > that is possibly unlikely ( glues/dyes). I hope that this has not put you > off. Pete H. ( p.s. don`t mention Bourneville!)Bloody Cadburys..... > > Peter H > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at > http://www.talk21.com > > > > _______________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 Hi Danielle > Is it terribly unvegan to buy otherwise vegan chocolates produced on > machinery with dairy chocolate? I mean, no animals suffered to make the > chocolate if it's dairy-free, right? A lot of factories can't afford > separate machinery for milk chocolate and vegan chocolate. Endangered > Species has a few vegan types of bars, but they're made on the same > machinery as their milk chocolate bars, as does Newman's Own. It's hard to > find a company that makes vegan bars on dedicated machinery. As with everything else, it's a matter of personal choice. For me, although veganism is mostly about not harming animals, it is also to do with what I put in my body - therefore if there is a reasonable chance of contamination with dairy or meat, I would not buy or consume that product. Of course, it would be pretty much impossible to avoid buying from companies who make money from dairy or meat products - so if you're not too worried about cross-contamination, then that's a decision for you to make - I wouldn't personally want to risk cross-contamination if I can avoid it. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release 25/02/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 Pangea sells a cruelty-free glue. Danielle Support our troops; bring them home safely. ----Original Message Follows---- " slipknot_sammy " <slipknot_sammy Re: dark chocolate? Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:03:11 -0000 what glues are not made from animals ? , " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart@h...> wrote: > Is it terribly unvegan to buy otherwise vegan chocolates produced on > machinery with dairy chocolate? I mean, no animals suffered to make the > chocolate if it's dairy-free, right? A lot of factories can't afford > separate machinery for milk chocolate and vegan chocolate. Endangered > Species has a few vegan types of bars, but they're made on the same > machinery as their milk chocolate bars, as does Newman's Own. It's hard to > find a company that makes vegan bars on dedicated machinery. > > Danielle > > > > Support our troops; bring them home safely. > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > swpgh01@t... > > , > Re: dark chocolate? > Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:16:33 GMT+00:00 > > > Dark chocolate itself is generally vegan, but check the wrappers list of > ingredients carefully for butteroil and in some cases lactates. It can in > some cases be vegan , but produced in a factory on a production line with > dairy chocolate. As to whether the packaging it comes in is animal free, > that is possibly unlikely ( glues/dyes). I hope that this has not put you > off. Pete H. ( p.s. don`t mention Bourneville!)Bloody Cadburys..... > > Peter H > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at > http://www.talk21.com > > > > _______________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 You've got a point. But somehow I see dairy as less objectionable than meat. Maybe it's because you can get milk without killing the animal. I don't use dairy because of the veal connection. Also, the money given to charity helps assauge my conscience. Danielle Support our troops; bring them home safely. ----Original Message Follows---- " Peter " <Snowbow Re: dark chocolate? Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:40:53 -0000 Hi Danielle > Is it terribly unvegan to buy otherwise vegan chocolates produced on > machinery with dairy chocolate? I mean, no animals suffered to make the > chocolate if it's dairy-free, right? A lot of factories can't afford > separate machinery for milk chocolate and vegan chocolate. Endangered > Species has a few vegan types of bars, but they're made on the same > machinery as their milk chocolate bars, as does Newman's Own. It's hard to > find a company that makes vegan bars on dedicated machinery. As with everything else, it's a matter of personal choice. For me, although veganism is mostly about not harming animals, it is also to do with what I put in my body - therefore if there is a reasonable chance of contamination with dairy or meat, I would not buy or consume that product. Of course, it would be pretty much impossible to avoid buying from companies who make money from dairy or meat products - so if you're not too worried about cross-contamination, then that's a decision for you to make - I wouldn't personally want to risk cross-contamination if I can avoid it. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release 25/02/03 _______________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 but you cant realy get milk without killing because the animal will give birth and then be killed , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > In a message dated 3/29/03 1:27:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, > veggietart@h... writes: > > > > > > You've got a point. But somehow I see dairy as less objectionable than > > meat. Maybe it's because you can get milk without killing the animal > > > all vegans be different... > depends on why yer vegan and how far ya wanna take it.... > > if ya wanted to, ya can make the argument that dairy is worse > from a health perspective(name one other creature that drinks the milk of > another..go on..i'll wait) > from a humane perspective...now wait before ya jump all over me..it could be > argued that its better to be slaughtered after several months then live a > life of slavery bound in a cage pumped full of hormones and antibiotics, amde > pregnant every year, just to have yer child ripped away from ya. have vacuum > devices stuck on yer ..privates ..and.... > ya get the point > just playin devils advocate > > cheers > fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 True. of course, the poor dairy cows are killed well short of life expectancy when production declines. Look, both industries suck. But I do what I can to reduce misery. I wish all companies could afford to have separate machinery for vegan chocolates, but most don't. Danielle Support our troops; bring them home safely. ----Original Message Follows---- EBbrewpunx Re: dark chocolate? Sat, 29 Mar 2003 16:36:41 EST In a message dated 3/29/03 1:27:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, veggietart writes: > > > You've got a point. But somehow I see dairy as less objectionable than > meat. Maybe it's because you can get milk without killing the animal all vegans be different... depends on why yer vegan and how far ya wanna take it.... if ya wanted to, ya can make the argument that dairy is worse from a health perspective(name one other creature that drinks the milk of another..go on..i'll wait) from a humane perspective...now wait before ya jump all over me..it could be argued that its better to be slaughtered after several months then live a life of slavery bound in a cage pumped full of hormones and antibiotics, amde pregnant every year, just to have yer child ripped away from ya. have vacuum devices stuck on yer ..privates ..and.... ya get the point just playin devils advocate cheers fraggle _______________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 I look at this two ways and it is just my opinion. But first, you are supporting a company that supports the harming of animals. Second, comtamination - if they roll on the same machines, they mix just so slightly. Kinda like cooking a vegan burger on a grill ya just cooked hamburgers on. Just me, nikki , " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart@h...> wrote: > Is it terribly unvegan to buy otherwise vegan chocolates produced on > machinery with dairy chocolate? I mean, no animals suffered to make the > chocolate if it's dairy-free, right? A lot of factories can't afford > separate machinery for milk chocolate and vegan chocolate. Endangered > Species has a few vegan types of bars, but they're made on the same > machinery as their milk chocolate bars, as does Newman's Own. It's hard to > find a company that makes vegan bars on dedicated machinery. > > Danielle > > > > Support our troops; bring them home safely. > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > swpgh01@t... > > , > Re: dark chocolate? > Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:16:33 GMT+00:00 > > > Dark chocolate itself is generally vegan, but check the wrappers list of > ingredients carefully for butteroil and in some cases lactates. It can in > some cases be vegan , but produced in a factory on a production line with > dairy chocolate. As to whether the packaging it comes in is animal free, > that is possibly unlikely ( glues/dyes). I hope that this has not put you > off. Pete H. ( p.s. don`t mention Bourneville!)Bloody Cadburys..... > > Peter H > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at > http://www.talk21.com > > > > _______________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 Personally I see dairy as a horrible abuse - stealing from an animal, locking it up so that it cannot move, taking away her baby by force and leaving her there to suffer for our gain I think i'd rather be killed at that point then live my life this way JMO, nikki The wealth of the soul is the only true wealth. Lucian , " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart@h...> wrote: > You've got a point. But somehow I see dairy as less objectionable than > meat. Maybe it's because you can get milk without killing the animal. I > don't use dairy because of the veal connection. Also, the money given to > charity helps assauge my conscience. > > Danielle > > > > Support our troops; bring them home safely. > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > " Peter " <Snowbow@b...> > > > Re: dark chocolate? > Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:40:53 -0000 > > Hi Danielle > > > Is it terribly unvegan to buy otherwise vegan chocolates produced on > > machinery with dairy chocolate? I mean, no animals suffered to make the > > chocolate if it's dairy-free, right? A lot of factories can't afford > > separate machinery for milk chocolate and vegan chocolate. Endangered > > Species has a few vegan types of bars, but they're made on the same > > machinery as their milk chocolate bars, as does Newman's Own. It's hard > to > > find a company that makes vegan bars on dedicated machinery. > > As with everything else, it's a matter of personal choice. For me, although > veganism is mostly about not harming animals, it is also to do with what I > put in my body - therefore if there is a reasonable chance of contamination > with dairy or meat, I would not buy or consume that product. > > Of course, it would be pretty much impossible to avoid buying from companies > who make money from dairy or meat products - so if you're not too worried > about cross-contamination, then that's a decision for you to make - I > wouldn't personally want to risk cross-contamination if I can avoid it. > > BB > Peter > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release 25/02/03 > > > > _______________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 i agree................if it hurts animals it is possible to do without............i am diabetic and vegan, and i had to give up everything sweet overnight and i survive............life is possible without choclate............................. catherine peace to all........... >"nikki_mackovitch" > > > Re: dark chocolate? >Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:43:10 -0000 > >I look at this two ways and it is just my opinion. > >But first, you are supporting a company that supports the harming of >animals. > >Second, comtamination - if they roll on the same machines, they mix >just so slightly. > >Kinda like cooking a vegan burger on a grill ya just cooked >hamburgers on. > >Just me, > >nikki > > > , "Danielle Kichler" > wrote: > > Is it terribly unvegan to buy otherwise vegan chocolates produced >on > > machinery with dairy chocolate? I mean, no animals suffered to >make the > > chocolate if it's dairy-free, right? A lot of factories can't >afford > > separate machinery for milk chocolate and vegan chocolate. >Endangered > > Species has a few vegan types of bars, but they're made on the same > > machinery as their milk chocolate bars, as does Newman's Own. It's >hard to > > find a company that makes vegan bars on dedicated machinery. > > > > Danielle > > > > > > > > Support our troops; bring them home safely. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > swpgh01@t... > > > > , > > Re: dark chocolate? > > Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:16:33 GMT+00:00 > > > > > > Dark chocolate itself is generally vegan, but check the wrappers >list of > > ingredients carefully for butteroil and in some cases lactates. It >can in > > some cases be vegan , but produced in a factory on a production >line with > > dairy chocolate. As to whether the packaging it comes in is animal >free, > > that is possibly unlikely ( glues/dyes). I hope that this has not >put you > > off. Pete H. ( p.s. don`t mention Bourneville!)Bloody Cadburys..... > > > > Peter H > > > > -------------------- > > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at > > http://www.talk21.com > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > Chat with friends online - download MSN Messenger today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 I agree that it is, but, unless someone is diabetic, there are vegan chocolates around. We buy ours from Dr Hadwen Trust and Animal Aid. Jo - Catherine Harris Monday, March 31, 2003 5:57 PM Re: Re: dark chocolate? i agree................if it hurts animals it is possible to do without............i am diabetic and vegan, and i had to give up everything sweet overnight and i survive............life is possible without choclate............................. catherine peace to all........... >"nikki_mackovitch" > > > Re: dark chocolate? >Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:43:10 -0000 > >I look at this two ways and it is just my opinion. > >But first, you are supporting a company that supports the harming of >animals. > >Second, comtamination - if they roll on the same machines, they mix >just so slightly. > >Kinda like cooking a vegan burger on a grill ya just cooked >hamburgers on. > >Just me, > >nikki > > > , "Danielle Kichler" > wrote: > > Is it terribly unvegan to buy otherwise vegan chocolates produced >on > > machinery with dairy chocolate? I mean, no animals suffered to >make the > > chocolate if it's dairy-free, right? A lot of factories can't >afford > > separate machinery for milk chocolate and vegan chocolate. >Endangered > > Species has a few vegan types of bars, but they're made on the same > > machinery as their milk chocolate bars, as does Newman's Own. It's >hard to > > find a company that makes vegan bars on dedicated machinery. > > > > Danielle > > > > > > > > Support our troops; bring them home safely. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > swpgh01@t... > > > > , > > Re: dark chocolate? > > Sat, 29 Mar 2003 14:16:33 GMT+00:00 > > > > > > Dark chocolate itself is generally vegan, but check the wrappers >list of > > ingredients carefully for butteroil and in some cases lactates. It >can in > > some cases be vegan , but produced in a factory on a production >line with > > dairy chocolate. As to whether the packaging it comes in is animal >free, > > that is possibly unlikely ( glues/dyes). I hope that this has not >put you > > off. Pete H. ( p.s. don`t mention Bourneville!)Bloody Cadburys..... > > > > Peter H > > > > -------------------- > > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at > > http://www.talk21.com > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > Chat with friends online - download MSN Messenger today. To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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