Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 welcome mo... sorry, have no idea where to volunteer in So Fla...i'd contact a local humane society, er maybe a wildlife rehab center nearby.... cheers fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Mauricio de la Vega wrote: > on another note... don't forget, veganism isn't a > search for personal purity, it is a means to end > cruelty... both human and non-human alike.... Don't speak for me. Veganism is for me a personal choice. I don't make judgements about other people. It very much is a personal desire to live a cruelty-free lifestyle, and not a crusade to change the world. -- Jason M. Abels http://jason.abels.us/ " Once and for all, I'm far away. Hardly believe, finally the shades are raised " - Rearviewmirror, Pearl Jam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 everyone is vegan fer different reasons..and not everyone is going ot go about it the same way fer some, its a very personal thing, fer others, its about health and weight loss , and fer others its about animals and the like...the environment, and all sorts of toher reasons which maybe only that person can understand... In a message dated 4/26/03 7:56:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, veggietart writes: You mean, you don't try to encourage others to adopt your lifestyle? You don't tell people about the benefits of veganism? I at least try to tell people that there's plenty of delicious food for me to eat--one just needs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Hi Mo Sounds like you had a long argument! It's good your parents are supportive. I feel that veganism is both a personal purity decision and a means to end cruelty, but you cannot force others to do as you do. Just be a good example, get involved in activism if you want, and let it all spread the light. Jo - " Mauricio de la Vega " <motomohair Friday, April 25, 2003 12:18 AM New to veganism... new to group... > Hi guys and gals, > > I just wanted to finally say hello... I've been vegan > for about a month now... the change happened after a > discussion in my deep ecology class... after thinking > about things for a little bit i realized that i could > not consider myself to be compassionate to animals and > an animal lover if I myself supported the torture and > cruelty to our non-human friends... i was thus left > with the weak decision (nonaction) and the courageous > decision (active veganism)... since i've become vegan, > my parents have been quite supportive... they have > even given up eating meat... something that was once > done without a second thought is now given > consideration and compassion wins... my girlfriend has > also been supportive of me though her family has > not... almost every time i see them they mention that > i look thinner (bullsh*t) and they ask me if i can eat > a certain food item... " can you eat egg whites? " , they > ask... " " no " , is my typical response... " why not? " , > they reply... and thus the debate begins... in fact, i > entered into a heated 4.5 hour debate with her father > on why i was vegan... it's incredible how this man > defended the actions of those who choose to torture > and harvest the lives of the weak while still > considering himself against cruelty... in the past > month since i've become vegan i have been studying up > on many different arguements for the lifestyle... it > was interesting to note that at several points during > the debate we both claimed that the fact we had just > agreed to supported our own views.... it got very > messy and i thought he was gonna hit me at one > point... that would've been funny cause i was actually > hoping for it... this man's blind defense brought out > my inner rage.... he actually thought that my > boycotting meat and educating others was going to do > nothing... that if i really wanted to do something > about the cruelty, i should invent a better way of > killing the animals to make meat... or that i should > work to create new laws... but education and the power > of the dollar would NEVER do anything... he claimed to > be against suffering because he donates some money to > animal shelters (which is a good thing)... but i told > him that it is rather hypocritical of him to support > an industry that allows inhumane death and torture in > greater numbers than the halocaust (and he's > jewish)... i will not stop the good fight... > > on another note... don't forget, veganism isn't a > search for personal purity, it is a means to end > cruelty... both human and non-human alike.... > > btw, anyone know of any good places to volunteer in > south florida? i want to be active... > > thanks for listening.... > > be good, > > -Mo > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search. > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Hi Mo and WELCOME! Congrats on yer decision to be a vegan as well as yer support! It's so wonderful that your parents have given up meat fer you! Give them a big hug from me! nikki With our thoughts we make the world. Buddha , Mauricio de la Vega <motomohair> wrote: > Hi guys and gals, > > I just wanted to finally say hello... I've been vegan > for about a month now... the change happened after a > discussion in my deep ecology class... after thinking > about things for a little bit i realized that i could > not consider myself to be compassionate to animals and > an animal lover if I myself supported the torture and > cruelty to our non-human friends... i was thus left > with the weak decision (nonaction) and the courageous > decision (active veganism)... since i've become vegan, > my parents have been quite supportive... they have > even given up eating meat... something that was once > done without a second thought is now given > consideration and compassion wins... my girlfriend has > also been supportive of me though her family has > not... almost every time i see them they mention that > i look thinner (bullsh*t) and they ask me if i can eat > a certain food item... " can you eat egg whites? " , they > ask... " " no " , is my typical response... " why not? " , > they reply... and thus the debate begins... in fact, i > entered into a heated 4.5 hour debate with her father > on why i was vegan... it's incredible how this man > defended the actions of those who choose to torture > and harvest the lives of the weak while still > considering himself against cruelty... in the past > month since i've become vegan i have been studying up > on many different arguements for the lifestyle... it > was interesting to note that at several points during > the debate we both claimed that the fact we had just > agreed to supported our own views.... it got very > messy and i thought he was gonna hit me at one > point... that would've been funny cause i was actually > hoping for it... this man's blind defense brought out > my inner rage.... he actually thought that my > boycotting meat and educating others was going to do > nothing... that if i really wanted to do something > about the cruelty, i should invent a better way of > killing the animals to make meat... or that i should > work to create new laws... but education and the power > of the dollar would NEVER do anything... he claimed to > be against suffering because he donates some money to > animal shelters (which is a good thing)... but i told > him that it is rather hypocritical of him to support > an industry that allows inhumane death and torture in > greater numbers than the halocaust (and he's > jewish)... i will not stop the good fight... > > on another note... don't forget, veganism isn't a > search for personal purity, it is a means to end > cruelty... both human and non-human alike.... > > btw, anyone know of any good places to volunteer in > south florida? i want to be active... > > thanks for listening.... > > be good, > > -Mo > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Jason, You mean, you don't try to encourage others to adopt your lifestyle? You don't tell people about the benefits of veganism? I at least try to tell people that there's plenty of delicious food for me to eat--one just needs to know where to look. Danielle " You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake " --Jeanette Rankin ----Original Message Follows---- " Jason M. Abels " <jason Re: New to veganism... new to group... Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:18:26 -0500 Mauricio de la Vega wrote: > on another note... don't forget, veganism isn't a > search for personal purity, it is a means to end > cruelty... both human and non-human alike.... Don't speak for me. Veganism is for me a personal choice. I don't make judgements about other people. It very much is a personal desire to live a cruelty-free lifestyle, and not a crusade to change the world. -- Jason M. Abels http://jason.abels.us/ " Once and for all, I'm far away. Hardly believe, finally the shades are raised " - Rearviewmirror, Pearl Jam _______________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2003 Report Share Posted April 26, 2003 Welcome MO, Always glad to have new members on this site ( inuendo not intended ). From rainy South Wales, hope this lifestyle change is permanent. All The Best, Pete H > Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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