Guest guest Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 TORONTO (May 20) - A cow in Alberta has been diagnosed with mad cow disease, Canadian officials announced Tuesday in what may be the first known case involving cattle born in North America. U.S. health officials immediately banned imports of cattle, beef, beef-based products and animal feed from Canada, the Food and Drug Administration said. Canadian Agriculture Minister Lyle Vanclief told a news conference Tuesday at the Alberta provincial legislature in Edmonton that the 8-year-old cow from a farm in northern Alberta was slaughtered on Jan. 31 because of suspected pneumonia. Routine testing failed to rule out bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or BSE, and further testing in England confirmed the finding on Tuesday, Vanclief said. ``The herd has been quarantined. A trace on the animal is being done,'' he said. ``The animal did not go into the food chain.'' A previous case in Canada, in 1993, involved an animal born in Britain that was imported, he said. Authorities have quarantined the farm and will ``depopulate'' the herd that the new case is from, along with any other herds that come into question, Vanclief said. They will also trace the origin of the cow and how and where it was processed as part of an investigation into any possible spread of the disease, Vanclief said. Alberta is Canada's main cattle province, with almost 40 percent of the industry. Hundreds of thousands of heads of cattle are exported to the United States each year. The 1993 case, involving an animal from Britain, resulted in a herd being destroyed with no further spread, Vanclief said. ``I am not happy to be here today for this reason,'' VanClief said. No case of mad cow disease has ever been found in U.S. cattle, despite intensive testing for the disease. To help prevent its spread here, the U.S. government routinely bans the import of meat and livestock from countries where mad cow disease is found. The FDA and U.S. Agriculture Department are working with Canadian officials to get more information about the sick cow, including records concerning its past ownership and what animal feed it was given. Mad cow disease, known scientifically as bovine spongiform encephalopathy or BSE, first erupted in Britain in 1986, and is thought to have spread through cow feed made with protein and bone meal from mammals. The FDA outlawed the feeding of mammalian meat and bone meal to cattle, sheep and goats in 1997, a rule considered the nation's main defense against mad cow disease. 05/20/03 14:20 EDT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 How on earth did it get into Canada? And what makes US officials think we're safe? Don't US feedlot owners still feed all sorts of crap to the animals? Danielle " You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake " --Jeanette Rankin ----Original Message Follows---- shahara9 news: mad cow in canada Tue, 20 May 2003 18:08:14 EDT TORONTO (May 20) - A cow in Alberta has been diagnosed with mad cow disease, Canadian officials announced Tuesday in what may be the first known case involving cattle born in North America. U.S. health officials immediately banned imports of cattle, beef, beef-based products and animal feed from Canada, the Food and Drug Administration said. Canadian Agriculture Minister Lyle Vanclief told a news conference Tuesday at the Alberta provincial legislature in Edmonton that the 8-year-old cow from a farm in northern Alberta was slaughtered on Jan. 31 because of suspected pneumonia. Routine testing failed to rule out bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or BSE, and further testing in England confirmed the finding on Tuesday, Vanclief said. ``The herd has been quarantined. A trace on the animal is being done,'' he said. ``The animal did not go into the food chain.'' A previous case in Canada, in 1993, involved an animal born in Britain that was imported, he said. Authorities have quarantined the farm and will ``depopulate'' the herd that the new case is from, along with any other herds that come into question, Vanclief said. They will also trace the origin of the cow and how and where it was processed as part of an investigation into any possible spread of the disease, Vanclief said. Alberta is Canada's main cattle province, with almost 40 percent of the industry. Hundreds of thousands of heads of cattle are exported to the United States each year. The 1993 case, involving an animal from Britain, resulted in a herd being destroyed with no further spread, Vanclief said. ``I am not happy to be here today for this reason,'' VanClief said. No case of mad cow disease has ever been found in U.S. cattle, despite intensive testing for the disease. To help prevent its spread here, the U.S. government routinely bans the import of meat and livestock from countries where mad cow disease is found. The FDA and U.S. Agriculture Department are working with Canadian officials to get more information about the sick cow, including records concerning its past ownership and what animal feed it was given. Mad cow disease, known scientifically as bovine spongiform encephalopathy or BSE, first erupted in Britain in 1986, and is thought to have spread through cow feed made with protein and bone meal from mammals. The FDA outlawed the feeding of mammalian meat and bone meal to cattle, sheep and goats in 1997, a rule considered the nation's main defense against mad cow disease. 05/20/03 14:20 EDT _______________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 I'm sure they do. A few years ago I read a list of no-food items fed regularly to cattle in the US. It included chicken manure, dehydrated food garbage, fats from restaurant fryers, cement-kiln dust, newsprint and cardboard, cattle and pig manure, human sewage sludge, slaughterhouse blood, bone and viscera and the remains of cats and dogs from vets and shelters. I still think that BSE (and new-variant Kreutzfeld Jacob disease) is caused by a cocktail of pesticides. Jo > How on earth did it get into Canada? And what makes US officials think > we're safe? Don't US feedlot owners still feed all sorts of crap to the > animals? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release 19/05/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Wouldn't it be a great pro-veg advertisement--just plain black letters on a white background: When you eat meat,you eat... and then list all the stuff they feed these animals. At the bottom, in smaller letters, the words " Go Veg, " and the Web site for the group who created the poster. Danielle " You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake " --Jeanette Rankin ----Original Message Follows---- " Heartwork " <Heartwork Re: news: mad cow in canada Wed, 21 May 2003 07:57:03 +0100 I'm sure they do. A few years ago I read a list of no-food items fed regularly to cattle in the US. It included chicken manure, dehydrated food garbage, fats from restaurant fryers, cement-kiln dust, newsprint and cardboard, cattle and pig manure, human sewage sludge, slaughterhouse blood, bone and viscera and the remains of cats and dogs from vets and shelters. I still think that BSE (and new-variant Kreutzfeld Jacob disease) is caused by a cocktail of pesticides. Jo > How on earth did it get into Canada? And what makes US officials think > we're safe? Don't US feedlot owners still feed all sorts of crap to the > animals? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release 19/05/03 _______________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Hi Danielle I mentioned it to someone at work once and she just said 'I don't give a stuff as long as it tastes good, and I don't care about the animals'. I think that is the general feeling of people unfortunately. You would think with BSE and high levels of mercury in fish everybody here would have given up eating meat and fish - but no! Jo > Wouldn't it be a great pro-veg advertisement--just plain black letters on a > white background: > > When you eat meat,you eat... > > and then list all the stuff they feed these animals. At the bottom, in > smaller letters, the words " Go Veg, " and the Web site for the group who > created the poster. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release 19/05/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 its simple really in the us, they decided that it was dumb to feed cows to cows...great logic, wonder why it took em 50 yrs to figure that one out unfortunately, its not illegal to feed cows to pigs, chickens et al which can be ground up and fed to cows..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 In a message dated 5/21/03 6:42:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Heartwork writes: I mentioned it to someone at work once and she just said 'I don't give a stuff as long as it tastes good, and I don't care about the animals'. I think that is the general feeling of people unfortunately. You would think with BSE and high levels of mercury in fish everybody here would have given up eating meat and fish - but no! pour em a glass of antifreeze, thats suppose to be tasty as well, with a side of arsenic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Sounds like a good idea! Jo pour em a glass of antifreeze, thats suppose to be tasty as well, with a side of arsenic.... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release 19/05/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Well, Jo, if she wants to eat shit (literally!), what can you say? " You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake " --Jeanette Rankin ----Original Message Follows---- " Heartwork " <Heartwork Re: news: mad cow in canada Wed, 21 May 2003 14:37:02 +0100 Hi Danielle I mentioned it to someone at work once and she just said 'I don't give a stuff as long as it tastes good, and I don't care about the animals'. I think that is the general feeling of people unfortunately. You would think with BSE and high levels of mercury in fish everybody here would have given up eating meat and fish - but no! Jo > Wouldn't it be a great pro-veg advertisement--just plain black letters on a > white background: > > When you eat meat,you eat... > > and then list all the stuff they feed these animals. At the bottom, in > smaller letters, the words " Go Veg, " and the Web site for the group who > created the poster. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release 19/05/03 _______________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 The usual response that I get from a lot of people is " Please don't tell me it will only make me sick. " So basically they agree something is not right about eating animals, deep down they know or feel they shouldn't, but they would much rather close their eyes to it and continue on with their daily routines. nikki , " Heartwork " <Heartwork@b...> wrote: > Hi Danielle > > I mentioned it to someone at work once and she just said 'I don't give a > stuff as long as it tastes good, and I don't care about the animals'. I > think that is the general feeling of people unfortunately. You would think > with BSE and high levels of mercury in fish everybody here would have given > up eating meat and fish - but no! > > Jo > > > Wouldn't it be a great pro-veg advertisement--just plain black letters on > a > > white background: > > > > When you eat meat,you eat... > > > > and then list all the stuff they feed these animals. At the bottom, in > > smaller letters, the words " Go Veg, " and the Web site for the group who > > created the poster. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release 19/05/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 It's amazing what people will do to justify eating meat or refuse knowledge that might make them give it up. Some people just don't care that there is shit in the meat--as Eric Schlosser bluntly pointed out in " Fast Food Nation. " I confess that I was seriously blocked for the longest time, and it takes great strength to make that decision and stick to it until it becomes, well, second nature. The great thing about being vegan is you learn just what some people put in food. I wrote a letter to Trader Joe's asking what the " food glaze " was on these chocolate-covered cherries I saw in the store. It looked otherwise vegan. The rep called and said the glaze came from a beetle, so it wasn't vegan (she mispronounced it, but at least she knew bug products=nonvegan). She left a message, so I really couldn't ask, actual dead bugs or secretions from bugs. Either way--ewwwww. She left numbers for me to call for their East Coast offices, and I want to call and ask if they don't think it's just really gross to put bug stuff in the food. Danielle " You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake " --Jeanette Rankin ----Original Message Follows---- " nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack Re: news: mad cow in canada Thu, 22 May 2003 09:57:22 -0000 The usual response that I get from a lot of people is " Please don't tell me it will only make me sick. " So basically they agree something is not right about eating animals, deep down they know or feel they shouldn't, but they would much rather close their eyes to it and continue on with their daily routines. nikki , " Heartwork " <Heartwork@b...> wrote: > Hi Danielle > > I mentioned it to someone at work once and she just said 'I don't give a > stuff as long as it tastes good, and I don't care about the animals'. I > think that is the general feeling of people unfortunately. You would think > with BSE and high levels of mercury in fish everybody here would have given > up eating meat and fish - but no! > > Jo > > > Wouldn't it be a great pro-veg advertisement--just plain black letters on > a > > white background: > > > > When you eat meat,you eat... > > > > and then list all the stuff they feed these animals. At the bottom, in > > smaller letters, the words " Go Veg, " and the Web site for the group who > > created the poster. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release 19/05/03 _______________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 That's right Nikki - they bury their heads. Jo > The usual response that I get from a lot of people is " Please don't > tell me it will only make me sick. " So basically they agree something > is not right about eating animals, deep down they know or feel they > shouldn't, but they would much rather close their eyes to it and > continue on with their daily routines. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release 19/05/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 I find it all too amazing! When i think back at all I have eaten in my life, YUCK! What I want to know is who was the first person to say, Hmmm, beetles in glaze sounds good. Er, let's go drink from that cows udders. Er, maybe if we add human genes, the cows will taste better. etc etc etc nikki One must like people as they are, for there is not a soul without a fault. Anonymous , " Danielle Kichler " <veggietart@h...> wrote: > It's amazing what people will do to justify eating meat or refuse knowledge > that might make them give it up. Some people just don't care that there is > shit in the meat--as Eric Schlosser bluntly pointed out in " Fast Food > Nation. " I confess that I was seriously blocked for the longest time, and > it takes great strength to make that decision and stick to it until it > becomes, well, second nature. > > The great thing about being vegan is you learn just what some people put in > food. I wrote a letter to Trader Joe's asking what the " food glaze " was on > these chocolate-covered cherries I saw in the store. It looked otherwise > vegan. The rep called and said the glaze came from a beetle, so it wasn't > vegan (she mispronounced it, but at least she knew bug products=nonvegan). > She left a message, so I really couldn't ask, actual dead bugs or secretions > from bugs. Either way--ewwwww. She left numbers for me to call for their > East Coast offices, and I want to call and ask if they don't think it's just > really gross to put bug stuff in the food. > > Danielle > > > > " You can no more win a war than you can win an earthquake " -- Jeanette Rankin > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 In a message dated 5/24/03 8:04:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, swpgh01 writes: Werent there recorded evidence the human version of BSE - KJ disease ( no I can not spell it!) in canibal tribes in the Amazon? The Valley Vegan... that was in new guinea, among the Fore' tribe..it was called Kuru....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. (pronounced Croytz-feld Yah-cub). Wonder why they don't call it Mad Human Disease or Human Spongiform Encepalopathy... Danielle " This is your American dream Everything is simple in the white and the black You will never need to see the grey anymore You will never have to be afraid. " --Everclear ----Original Message Follows---- swpgh01 Re: news: mad cow in canada Sat, 24 May 2003 16:02:53 GMT+01:00 Werent there recorded evidence the human version of BSE - KJ disease ( no I can not spell it!) in canibal tribes in the Amazon? The Valley Vegan... > Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com _______________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 Werent there recorded evidence the human version of BSE - KJ disease ( no I can not spell it!) in canibal tribes in the Amazon? The Valley Vegan... > Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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