Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 This is a multi question question, and a bit of a rant, sorry. Its stimulated by the Holland and Barratt fish business, and other examples I'm getting sick of recently. I've been vegan for 15 years, so its not that I havent come across it before, but I think its getting worse. I'm finding it more and more difficult to get vegan food in supermarkets. Ironically, at a time when it is easier to get soya milk, for those on " dairy free " diets, it is more and more difficult, I think, to find veggie burgers etc that dont have some pointless ingredient, usually way way down the list, like " concentrated milk protein " or " egg albumen " . In Tescos and Safeways my only options are now the dreaded Linda McCartney stuff, (and very few of those are edible). Any ideas? Obviously health food shops, but I have an indifferent health food shop in my town, that rarely bothers to get in anything new, and approximately 1 in 3 of my specifically ordered items actually arrive. Make my own, yeah I'm doing that more and more now, like I used to when I was a student, the difference being I havent got so much time to cook adzuki beans etc now. On a related note. On a recent visit to Dublin, I was repeatedly assured by 3-4 members of the staff at the Guiness factory that no isinglass was used now, and that centrifugation alone was used to remove sediment. They didnt seem to be lying, and none of the literature even mentioned the word. So.... do they just not know what goes into it, or have they stopped using it, or was it a vegan myth? Richard Saunders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 In a message dated 9/7/03 1:18:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rich writes: , so its not that I havent come across it before, but I think its getting worse. I'm finding it more and more difficult to get vegan food in supermarkets. Ironically, at a time when it is easier to get soya milk, for those on exact opposite i would say here in the colonies it seems.. there are always vegan options available round here...i've walked into "normal" stores like Longs and walgreens, and they have prepackaged monstrosities labeled "Vegan".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 In a message dated 9/7/03 4:27:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, vc27 writes: Guvnor in the George in Brighton says Guiness in England is vegan, but not the stuff in Ireland. now why would they do that?? that makes very little sense to me... hmm..strange indeedy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Afraid none of the Linda McC stuff is vegan any more. Redwood's will post stuff out to you; not sure if you have to order a lot but all their stuff, except the "cheese" is freezeable. There are other mail order co's on the web too, or you could try Tesco.com, Sainsburystoyou.com if they deliver in your area, they don't deliver from your local store so should have a bigger range. Guvnor in the George in Brighton says Guiness in England is vegan, but not the stuff in Ireland. Otherwise, happy cooking! Viv Richard SAUNDERS [rich]Sunday, September 07, 2003 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Digest Number 966 This is a multi question question, and a bit of a rant, sorry. Itsstimulated by the Holland and Barratt fish business, and other examples I'mgetting sick of recently. I've been vegan for 15 years, so its not that Ihavent come across it before, but I think its getting worse.I'm finding it more and more difficult to get vegan food in supermarkets.Ironically, at a time when it is easier to get soya milk, for those on"dairy free" diets, it is more and more difficult, I think, to find veggieburgers etc that dont have some pointless ingredient, usually way way downthe list, like "concentrated milk protein" or "egg albumen". In Tescos andSafeways my only options are now the dreaded Linda McCartney stuff, (andvery few of those are edible). Any ideas? Obviously health food shops, but Ihave an indifferent health food shop in my town, that rarely bothers to getin anything new, and approximately 1 in 3 of my specifically ordered itemsactually arrive. Make my own, yeah I'm doing that more and more now, like Iused to when I was a student, the difference being I havent got so much timeto cook adzuki beans etc now.On a related note. On a recent visit to Dublin, I was repeatedly assured by3-4 members of the staff at the Guiness factory that no isinglass was usednow, and that centrifugation alone was used to remove sediment. They didntseem to be lying, and none of the literature even mentioned the word. So....do they just not know what goes into it, or have they stopped using it, orwas it a vegan myth?Richard Saunders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Hi Richard I've just received a 'vegan list' from Tesco. They say their veggie burgers are vegan, and the only other pre-cooked item is the pack of 12 Indian delicacies. It is only 5 years that I have been looking for vegan food, and it certainly hasn't improved. I get all my beanies etc from a health food shop. If you like Redwoods food you can do an order from them. You do have to be in for the delivery though. I have done it once (and will do it again). I put in quite a large order to make it worthwhile taking a day's leave for the delivery. I have to plan ahead for cooking up batches of beans etc. I usually soak the beans over Friday night, and then cook and cool on Saturday - after that I freeze them so that I've always got cooked beans in the freezer. Let's hope the supermarkets improve soon - maybe they will if the numbers of vegans increases. Jo ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release 01/09/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Sainburys in Balham, SW Lonon , sell a spicy bean burger with suitable for vegan printed on the packet. I thought all the Linda Mac carthys products were not suitable for vegans at the moment,I will check them out again. Sun, 7 Sep 2003 14:24:16 +0100 " Richard SAUNDERS " <rich Add To Address Book Re: Digest Number 966 This is a multi question question, and a bit of a rant, sorry. Its stimulated by the Holland and Barratt fish business, and other examples I'm getting sick of recently. I've been vegan for 15 years, so its not that I havent come across it before, but I think its getting worse. I'm finding it more and more difficult to get vegan food in supermarkets. Ironically, at a time when it is easier to get soya milk, for those on " dairy free " diets, it is more and more difficult, I think, to find veggie burgers etc that dont have some pointless ingredient, usually way way down the list, like " concentrated milk protein " or " egg albumen " . In Tescos and Safeways my only options are now the dreaded Linda McCartney stuff, (and very few of those are edible). Any ideas? Obviously health food shops, but I have an indifferent health food shop in my town, that rarely bothers to get in anything new, and approximately 1 in 3 of my specifically ordered items actually arrive. Make my own, yeah I'm doing that more and more now, like I used to when I was a student, the difference being I havent got so much time to cook adzuki beans etc now. On a related note. On a recent visit to Dublin, I was repeatedly assured by 3-4 members of the staff at the Guiness factory that no isinglass was used now, and that centrifugation alone was used to remove sediment. They didnt seem to be lying, and none of the literature even mentioned the word. So.... do they just not know what goes into it, or have they stopped using it, or was it a vegan myth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 I remember asking a member of staff a few years ago, who was stacking the frozen section,about the Vegan Mexican burgers they use to sell. He said he didn't know why they had stopped selling them as they were selling well.> This is a multi question question, and a bit of a rant, sorry. Its stimulated by the Holland and Barratt fish business, and other examples I'm getting sick of recently. I've been vegan for 15 years, so its not that I havent come across it before, but I think its getting worse. I'm finding it more and more difficult to get vegan food in supermarkets. Ironically, at a time when it is easier to get soya milk, for those on " dairy free " diets, it is more and more difficult, I think, to find veggie burgers etc that dont have some pointless ingredient, usually way way down the list, like " concentrated milk protein " or " egg albumen " . In Tescos and Safeways my only options are now the dreaded Linda McCartney stuff, (and very few of those are edible). Any ideas? Obviously health food shops, but I have an indifferent health food shop in my town, that rarely bothers to get in anything new, and approximately 1 in 3 of my specifically ordered items actually arrive. Make my own, yeah I'm doing that more and more now, like I used to when I was a student, the difference being I havent got so much time to cook adzuki beans etc now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 When I contacted Linda McCartney foods they said that enough people wrote to them about changing from vegan to vegetarian they may well change back. Jo Afraid none of the Linda McC stuff is vegan any more. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release 01/09/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Hi Simon I have noticed in the supermarkets that from about this time of year they start stacking up for Christmas. It is always the veggie and vegan food that disappears from the shelves (cos we don't eat over Christmas, do we!!!) , and it never seems to appear again after Christmas. Jo I remember asking a member of staff a few years ago, who was stacking the frozen section,about the Vegan Mexican burgers they use to sell. He said he didn't know why they had stopped selling them as they were selling well.> ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release 01/09/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 hi jo, i have given in to the idea that to be a vegan, i have to stand over the cooker and get more creative than i used to be......when i was veggie i was more into "ping" cuisine........ready made meals from m and s......... a treat i give myself is a soya latte and vegan humous sandwich at starbucks............yum yum....... catherine >"Heartwork" > > >Re: Digest Number 966 >Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:24:44 +0100 > >Hi Simon > >I have noticed in the supermarkets that from about this time of year they start stacking up for Christmas. It is always the veggie and vegan food that disappears from the shelves (cos we don't eat over Christmas, do we!!!) , and it never seems to appear again after Christmas. > >Jo > > > I remember asking a member of staff a few years ago, who was > stacking the frozen section,about the Vegan Mexican burgers > they use to sell. He said he didn't know why they had stopped > selling them as they were selling well.> > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release 01/09/03 Download MSN Messenger V6 today - it's fun, fast and FREE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Hi Catherine We cook most of our own meals from scratch too. At least you know what you are eating. It does take a bit longer though. I shall have to pay a visit to Starbuck - there aren't many places where you can eat and have a soya latte. Jo - Catherine Harris Monday, September 08, 2003 5:32 PM Re: Digest Number 966 hi jo, i have given in to the idea that to be a vegan, i have to stand over the cooker and get more creative than i used to be......when i was veggie i was more into "ping" cuisine........ready made meals from m and s......... a treat i give myself is a soya latte and vegan humous sandwich at starbucks............yum yum....... catherine >"Heartwork" > > >Re: Digest Number 966 >Mon, 8 Sep 2003 15:24:44 +0100 > >Hi Simon > >I have noticed in the supermarkets that from about this time of year they start stacking up for Christmas. It is always the veggie and vegan food that disappears from the shelves (cos we don't eat over Christmas, do we!!!) , and it never seems to appear again after Christmas. > >Jo > > > I remember asking a member of staff a few years ago, who was > stacking the frozen section,about the Vegan Mexican burgers > they use to sell. He said he didn't know why they had stopped > selling them as they were selling well.> > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release 01/09/03 Download MSN Messenger V6 today - it's fun, fast and FREE! To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Hi Jo If I notice any of the supermarkets taking a vegan product out. I do make a fuss in as polite a way as I can when...it's better than not saying anything. I get my organic fruit and veg delivered..so rarly use them for that. Cheers Simon Hi Simon I have noticed in the supermarkets that from about this time of year they start stacking up for Christmas. It is always the veggie and vegan food that disappears from the shelves (cos we don't eat over Christmas, do we!!!) , and it never seems to appear again after Christmas. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 It's doubtful if vegetarians would complain if they changed back to vegan. Simon When I contacted Linda McCartney foods they said that enough people wrote to them about changing from vegan to vegetarian they may well change back. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Hi Simon I agree - it is best to say something - I'm just not sure they take any notice. I get some fruit and veg (organic) at Tesco and a box and potatoes delivered. Jo - simonpjones Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:02 PM Re: Digest Number 966 Hi JoIf I notice any of the supermarkets taking a vegan product out. I do make a fuss in as polite a way as I can when...it's better than not saying anything.I get my organic fruit and veg delivered..so rarly use them for that.Cheers Simon Hi SimonI have noticed in the supermarkets that from about this time of year they start stacking up for Christmas. It is always the veggie and vegan food that disappears from the shelves (cos we don't eat over Christmas, do we!!!) , and it never seems to appear again after Christmas.Jo To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Hi Tracey Is this Emes gelatin vegan? We here in New Zealand can't get any gelatin apart from the kind made from bones. Agar is available though, and I use that. Kath TRACEY WROTE: Re: Benton Sister's Whipped Cream XPOST We have just one store here that sells Emes gelatin. I have started ordering it from our co-op, though. I don't know where you are from or if you have a co-op available in your area. They are a huge blessing for me because I can get most of my health food store items from them. Tracy ---- 11/25/04 10:55:10 Digest Number 966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 Yes, Kath it is Emes. I have agar too but don't like it in very many things because it leaves a seaweed flavor to it. Tracy << Hi Tracey Is this Emes gelatin vegan? We here in New Zealand can't get any gelatin apart from the kind made from bones. Agar is available though, and I use that. Kath >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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