Guest guest Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 I just read this article and was so shocked. I knew my fellow vegetarian parents would be interested. The basic topic of the article is that scientists are close to being able to change the brain chemistry of cattle and other animals so that they do not feel pain. Apparently that will make us feel better about the way they are treated and slaughtered. So wrong! I'm all for ending suffering, but this seems like it's more for humans to lessen their guilt than to really do anything for the well being of the animals. If you want to end their suffering, try not killing them in the first place! You all know that, but I'm venting at this point. Here's a link to the article. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327243.400-painfree-animals-could-take-s\ uffering-out-of-farming.html I would love to hear your take on it. Natalie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Here's my take, it's short, sweet and to the point. I'm an ethical vegetarian. I find it unethical to do this. Jacqueline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 thats rdiculous, the article states " help end sufferring " even if they could stop/reduce pain, in no way would suffering be ended because of the way farm animals spend their day to day lives, etc....just a way to make people feel better....my opinion... , " nataliebrejcha " <nataliebrejcha wrote: > > I just read this article and was so shocked. I knew my fellow vegetarian parents would be interested. > The basic topic of the article is that scientists are close to being able to change the brain chemistry of cattle and other animals so that they do not feel pain. Apparently that will make us feel better about the way they are treated and slaughtered. So wrong! I'm all for ending suffering, but this seems like it's more for humans to lessen their guilt than to really do anything for the well being of the animals. If you want to end their suffering, try not killing them in the first place! You all know that, but I'm venting at this point. > > Here's a link to the article. > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327243.400-painfree-animals-could-take-s\ uffering-out-of-farming.html > > I would love to hear your take on it. > > Natalie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 That is what I was thinking too. Great, they don't feel pain but they are still in crowded conditions without access to sunlight etc (I could go on but you all know what I mean...factory farming). This is all about lessenig the guilt. My mom (vegetarian) and her friend (omni) saw Food Inc. Her friend said " oh, that only happens in the US, not in Canada. " That is totally false (of course it happens here and you are naive to think otherwise). For goodness sake, her husband used to build the massive factory farm pig barns! It's all about lessening guilt. On a postive note though, my mom's friend and her husband have decreased their meat consumption! Small steps. Paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 The ability to feel pain is also a useful and necessary evolutionary trait. An animal which doesn't feel pain would never learn not to fry itself on an electric fence, for instance. Nor would he or she learn not to run into things (like walls, for instance) or bite his or her own limbs when itchy. A fear response could end up with deadly consequences if a spooked animal without any sensation of pain ran amok in a a metal enclosure. Haven't these people seen Jurassic Park? Yes, we can do lots of things by messing with nature, but it never ends well. Cheers, Mark 2009/9/8 peej2e2 <johnsontew > > > That is what I was thinking too. Great, they don't feel pain but they are > still in crowded conditions without access to sunlight etc (I could go on > but you all know what I mean...factory farming). This is all about lessenig > the guilt. > > My mom (vegetarian) and her friend (omni) saw Food Inc. Her friend said > " oh, that only happens in the US, not in Canada. " That is totally false (of > course it happens here and you are naive to think otherwise). For goodness > sake, her husband used to build the massive factory farm pig barns! It's all > about lessening guilt. > > On a postive note though, my mom's friend and her husband have decreased > their meat consumption! Small steps. > > Paula > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Mark, You are so right, I have thought of the problems that not feeling pain would cause. There are people who are born without the ability to feel pain. When I first heard of it I thought " wow, lucky them. " But these people have a terrible time (broken bones, etc) and unfortunately many die young. I watched a documentary on it awhile back. Interesting but unfortunate condition. Paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 This is the sillies thing ever. It makes no sense at all. If they want to take away the pain, physical pain at time of death, " they " can give the animals the same thing they give to pets being put down, before they kill and slaughter the farm animals. Right? And I don't think it would make much of a difference to meat eaters honestly. Is someone going to come up with something for emotional pain/feelings...? Just my thoughts about it all, and i really don't see it happening Kim , Mark Young <markvictoryoung wrote: > > The ability to feel pain is also a useful and necessary evolutionary trait. > An animal which doesn't feel pain would never learn not to fry itself on an > electric fence, for instance. Nor would he or she learn not to run into > things (like walls, for instance) or bite his or her own limbs when itchy. A > fear response could end up with deadly consequences if a spooked animal > without any sensation of pain ran amok in a a metal enclosure. Haven't these > people seen Jurassic Park? Yes, we can do lots of things by messing with > nature, but it never ends well. > Cheers, > Mark > > 2009/9/8 peej2e2 <johnsontew > > > > > > > That is what I was thinking too. Great, they don't feel pain but they are > > still in crowded conditions without access to sunlight etc (I could go on > > but you all know what I mean...factory farming). This is all about lessenig > > the guilt. > > > > My mom (vegetarian) and her friend (omni) saw Food Inc. Her friend said > > " oh, that only happens in the US, not in Canada. " That is totally false (of > > course it happens here and you are naive to think otherwise). For goodness > > sake, her husband used to build the massive factory farm pig barns! It's all > > about lessening guilt. > > > > On a postive note though, my mom's friend and her husband have decreased > > their meat consumption! Small steps. > > > > Paula > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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