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hello,

 

I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until very

recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the most

convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm wondering what

you all think about it!

 

Please enlighten me!

 

Thanks,

 

Ann

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I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you start

heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's fine

in a salad, though.

 

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444wrote:

 

>

>

> hello,

>

> I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until

> very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the most

> convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm wondering

> what you all think about it!

>

> Please enlighten me!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Ann

>

>

>

 

 

 

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I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once it's

heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good for

salads and such.

 

 

 

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote:

 

>

>

> I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you start

> heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's fine

> in a salad, though.

>

> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444

<catlady4444<catlady4444%40verizon.net>

> >wrote:

>

>

> >

> >

> > hello,

> >

> > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until

> > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the

> most

> > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm

> wondering

> > what you all think about it!

> >

> > Please enlighten me!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Ann

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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my 2 cents

 

Canola oil is not evil for the reason often given - that it contains toxic

levels of erucic acid. There is an email hoax circulating that misleads the

history of canola/rapeseed oil. Rapeseed was bred with other plants in the

cabbage family, thru traditional means, NOT genetic modification to reduce the

erucic acid content and make it " fine " for human consumption.

 

Olive oil has the aura of " health food " because of the studies about

Mediterranean diets. This has led people to add olive oil to their unhealthy or

moderately healthy diet and think that fixes everything. In reality, those

studies that give olive oil so much credit were based on observations of goat

herders on Crete that were climbing mountains all day i.e. very high levels of

activity and very modest amounts of olive oil and lots of fresh produce. The

amount of fat and oil in most people's diets (yes even veg folks) is way too

high.

 

However, as you have probably noticed, if you refrigerate olive oil - it becomes

solid, while canola will not. That's because of the saturated fat content, twice

as much in olive oil as in canola oil. They are both low in sat fat compared to

lard, butter, coconut, palm etc but based on sat fat, canola is better than

olive.

 

BUT, neither olive oil or canola is a " whole " food and both are best avoided for

optimal health. See Caldwell Esselstyn MD's " Prevent And Reverse Heart Disease "

or online articles by him.

 

But if you can't figure out how to eliminate oil completely from your cooking

and need a small amt of oil occasionally to make a special item, try to use less

and choose canola for the best nutrient profile.

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I've heard a lot of people complaining about the use of canola oil. I think a

lot of the concern comes from people thinking that modern canola oil comes from

rapeseed. It actually comes from a rapeseed hybrid that contains a lower amount

of erucic acid than regular rapeseed, making it safer for human consumption.

 

, " annsfarm4444 " <catlady4444 wrote:

>

> hello,

>

> I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until very

recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the most

convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm wondering what

you all think about it!

>

> Please enlighten me!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Ann

>

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I am not sure this is true? I have never heard this and I use tons of olive oil

and have the best cholesterol levels!

 

http://www.oliveoilsource.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm

 

Elisa

 

 

, Missie <mszzzi wrote:

>

> I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once it's

> heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good for

> salads and such.

>

>

>

> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you start

> > heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's fine

> > in a salad, though.

> >

> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444

<catlady4444<catlady4444%40verizon.net>

> > >wrote:

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > hello,

> > >

> > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until

> > > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the

> > most

> > > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm

> > wondering

> > > what you all think about it!

> > >

> > > Please enlighten me!

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Ann

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Hrm. Ok. I know it has sometimes made my cast iron pans sticky when canola

doesn't (though not any time recently, so maybe I'm thinking of something

else). It doesn't happen if I use a blend (my own) of canola and olive (or

even if I ad a pinch of sesame oil for flavor). Maybe it's like for

pan-frying stuff that I heard it was not good for (like shallow deep frying

LOL).

 

Thanks for the link. Interesting info!

 

Missie

 

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ejsrejsr <elisaelisa wrote:

 

>

>

> I am not sure this is true? I have never heard this and I use tons of olive

> oil and have the best cholesterol levels!

>

> http://www.oliveoilsource.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm

>

> Elisa

>

>

> <%40>, Missie

> <mszzzi wrote:

> >

> > I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once

> it's

> > heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good

> for

> > salads and such.

> >

> >

> >

> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you

> start

> > > heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's

> fine

> > > in a salad, though.

> > >

> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@

> ...<catlady4444%40verizon.net>

>

> > > >wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > hello,

> > > >

> > > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware

> until

> > > > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the

> > > most

> > > > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm

> > > wondering

> > > > what you all think about it!

> > > >

> > > > Please enlighten me!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Ann

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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I don't know, Elisa. That source seems to be from the olive oil industry, in

business to sell as much olive oil as they possibly can. I don't know if

it's just olive oil that's unhealthy; maybe it's all oil. All I know is that

I always had an extremely low cholesterol level, even pre-vegan, but last

time I had it checked, which happened to be after eating lots of food cooked

in olive oil, it was high--not high for most people, but high for me

personally and high for a vegan.

 

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, ejsrejsr <elisaelisa wrote:

 

>

>

> I am not sure this is true? I have never heard this and I use tons of olive

> oil and have the best cholesterol levels!

>

> http://www.oliveoilsource.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm

>

> Elisa

>

> <%40>, Missie

> <mszzzi wrote:

> >

> > I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once

> it's

> > heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good

> for

> > salads and such.

> >

> >

> >

> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you

> start

> > > heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's

> fine

> > > in a salad, though.

> > >

> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@

> ...<catlady4444%40verizon.net>

> > > >wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > hello,

> > > >

> > > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware

> until

> > > > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the

> > > most

> > > > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm

> > > wondering

> > > > what you all think about it!

> > > >

> > > > Please enlighten me!

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Ann

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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I don't know, you may be right about the source, I did not research much, but

just saw that right away. I use olive because it tastes good and I just had my

levels checked a week ago and they are really good, so I am not going to worry

about it. everyone has a different view on oils. coconut for example is

thought by many to have so many benifits and that the 'saturated' fat is not

always bad. we can probably go in circles all day. best, elisa

 

, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote:

>

> I don't know, Elisa. That source seems to be from the olive oil industry, in

> business to sell as much olive oil as they possibly can. I don't know if

> it's just olive oil that's unhealthy; maybe it's all oil. All I know is that

> I always had an extremely low cholesterol level, even pre-vegan, but last

> time I had it checked, which happened to be after eating lots of food cooked

> in olive oil, it was high--not high for most people, but high for me

> personally and high for a vegan.

>

> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, ejsrejsr <elisaelisa wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > I am not sure this is true? I have never heard this and I use tons of olive

> > oil and have the best cholesterol levels!

> >

> > http://www.oliveoilsource.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm

> >

> > Elisa

> >

> > <%40>, Missie

> > <mszzzi@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once

> > it's

> > > heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good

> > for

> > > salads and such.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you

> > start

> > > > heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's

> > fine

> > > > in a salad, though.

> > > >

> > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@

> > ...<catlady4444%40verizon.net>

> > > > >wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > hello,

> > > > >

> > > > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware

> > until

> > > > > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the

> > > > most

> > > > > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm

> > > > wondering

> > > > > what you all think about it!

> > > > >

> > > > > Please enlighten me!

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > >

> > > > > Ann

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Thanks Ann.

 

Just to clarify. Oil free cooking is what I aim for, but not fat free. Minimal

to moderate amounts of avocados, olives, nuts, seeds, soybeans whole plant foods

are fine - within limits for losing/maintaining weight and not displacing

calories that should come from vegetables, fruit, legumes, whole grains. <20%

calories from fat, <7% calories from sat fat is ideal but who can look at a

plate of food and estimate %calories from fat? Best to keep to whole plant foods

with occasional small servings of higher fat whole plant foods listed above and

you'll meet those percentages.

 

Danita

 

 

>

>

> I've been researching more, and what I've been finding fully supports

Danita's comments. Here's another link which fully agrees:

http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/cholesterol/cookingoil.html

>

>Ann

>

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From what I learned through my Plant Base Diet certification with the T. Colin

Campbell Foundation, oils should not be used at all. They should be

eliminated. All oils cause inflammation on the arterial walls and restrict

blood flow.  

 

We start all of our meals with broth, carrot juice, coconut water, or soy sauce

and use vinegar based dressings on salads.  Try this for a few weeks and then

try eating out at a restaurant...you will notice how over oiled all restaurant

food is and will probably not be able to eat it!

 

Whole sources of fats from nuts, seeds and avocado are the healthiest ways to

get fat in your diet.

 

Hope that helps,

Gretchen

 

--- On Tue, 12/8/09, food4u1575 <dana.sommers wrote:

 

 

food4u1575 <dana.sommers

Re: healthiest oils

 

Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 1:38 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've heard a lot of people complaining about the use of canola oil. I think a

lot of the concern comes from people thinking that modern canola oil comes from

rapeseed. It actually comes from a rapeseed hybrid that contains a lower amount

of erucic acid than regular rapeseed, making it safer for human consumption.

 

@gro ups.com, " annsfarm4444 " <catlady4444@ ...> wrote:

>

> hello,

>

> I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until very

recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the most convincing

info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm wondering what you all

think about it!

>

> Please enlighten me!

>

> Thanks,

>

> Ann

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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