Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 hello, I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the most convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm wondering what you all think about it! Please enlighten me! Thanks, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you start heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's fine in a salad, though. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444wrote: > > > hello, > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the most > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm wondering > what you all think about it! > > Please enlighten me! > > Thanks, > > Ann > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once it's heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good for salads and such. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote: > > > I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you start > heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's fine > in a salad, though. > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444<catlady4444%40verizon.net> > >wrote: > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until > > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the > most > > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm > wondering > > what you all think about it! > > > > Please enlighten me! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ann > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 my 2 cents Canola oil is not evil for the reason often given - that it contains toxic levels of erucic acid. There is an email hoax circulating that misleads the history of canola/rapeseed oil. Rapeseed was bred with other plants in the cabbage family, thru traditional means, NOT genetic modification to reduce the erucic acid content and make it " fine " for human consumption. Olive oil has the aura of " health food " because of the studies about Mediterranean diets. This has led people to add olive oil to their unhealthy or moderately healthy diet and think that fixes everything. In reality, those studies that give olive oil so much credit were based on observations of goat herders on Crete that were climbing mountains all day i.e. very high levels of activity and very modest amounts of olive oil and lots of fresh produce. The amount of fat and oil in most people's diets (yes even veg folks) is way too high. However, as you have probably noticed, if you refrigerate olive oil - it becomes solid, while canola will not. That's because of the saturated fat content, twice as much in olive oil as in canola oil. They are both low in sat fat compared to lard, butter, coconut, palm etc but based on sat fat, canola is better than olive. BUT, neither olive oil or canola is a " whole " food and both are best avoided for optimal health. See Caldwell Esselstyn MD's " Prevent And Reverse Heart Disease " or online articles by him. But if you can't figure out how to eliminate oil completely from your cooking and need a small amt of oil occasionally to make a special item, try to use less and choose canola for the best nutrient profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I've heard a lot of people complaining about the use of canola oil. I think a lot of the concern comes from people thinking that modern canola oil comes from rapeseed. It actually comes from a rapeseed hybrid that contains a lower amount of erucic acid than regular rapeseed, making it safer for human consumption. , " annsfarm4444 " <catlady4444 wrote: > > hello, > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the most convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm wondering what you all think about it! > > Please enlighten me! > > Thanks, > > Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I am not sure this is true? I have never heard this and I use tons of olive oil and have the best cholesterol levels! http://www.oliveoilsource.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm Elisa , Missie <mszzzi wrote: > > I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once it's > heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good for > salads and such. > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote: > > > > > > > I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you start > > heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's fine > > in a salad, though. > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444<catlady4444%40verizon.net> > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until > > > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the > > most > > > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm > > wondering > > > what you all think about it! > > > > > > Please enlighten me! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Hrm. Ok. I know it has sometimes made my cast iron pans sticky when canola doesn't (though not any time recently, so maybe I'm thinking of something else). It doesn't happen if I use a blend (my own) of canola and olive (or even if I ad a pinch of sesame oil for flavor). Maybe it's like for pan-frying stuff that I heard it was not good for (like shallow deep frying LOL). Thanks for the link. Interesting info! Missie On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM, ejsrejsr <elisaelisa wrote: > > > I am not sure this is true? I have never heard this and I use tons of olive > oil and have the best cholesterol levels! > > http://www.oliveoilsource.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm > > Elisa > > > <%40>, Missie > <mszzzi wrote: > > > > I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once > it's > > heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good > for > > salads and such. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you > start > > > heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's > fine > > > in a salad, though. > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ > ...<catlady4444%40verizon.net> > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware > until > > > > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the > > > most > > > > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm > > > wondering > > > > what you all think about it! > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me! > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I don't know, Elisa. That source seems to be from the olive oil industry, in business to sell as much olive oil as they possibly can. I don't know if it's just olive oil that's unhealthy; maybe it's all oil. All I know is that I always had an extremely low cholesterol level, even pre-vegan, but last time I had it checked, which happened to be after eating lots of food cooked in olive oil, it was high--not high for most people, but high for me personally and high for a vegan. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, ejsrejsr <elisaelisa wrote: > > > I am not sure this is true? I have never heard this and I use tons of olive > oil and have the best cholesterol levels! > > http://www.oliveoilsource.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm > > Elisa > > <%40>, Missie > <mszzzi wrote: > > > > I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once > it's > > heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good > for > > salads and such. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you > start > > > heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's > fine > > > in a salad, though. > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ > ...<catlady4444%40verizon.net> > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware > until > > > > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the > > > most > > > > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm > > > wondering > > > > what you all think about it! > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me! > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I've been researching more, and what I've been finding fully supports Danita's comments. Here's another link which fully agrees: http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/cholesterol/cookingoil.html Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I don't know, you may be right about the source, I did not research much, but just saw that right away. I use olive because it tastes good and I just had my levels checked a week ago and they are really good, so I am not going to worry about it. everyone has a different view on oils. coconut for example is thought by many to have so many benifits and that the 'saturated' fat is not always bad. we can probably go in circles all day. best, elisa , Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99 wrote: > > I don't know, Elisa. That source seems to be from the olive oil industry, in > business to sell as much olive oil as they possibly can. I don't know if > it's just olive oil that's unhealthy; maybe it's all oil. All I know is that > I always had an extremely low cholesterol level, even pre-vegan, but last > time I had it checked, which happened to be after eating lots of food cooked > in olive oil, it was high--not high for most people, but high for me > personally and high for a vegan. > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM, ejsrejsr <elisaelisa wrote: > > > > > > > I am not sure this is true? I have never heard this and I use tons of olive > > oil and have the best cholesterol levels! > > > > http://www.oliveoilsource.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm > > > > Elisa > > > > <%40>, Missie > > <mszzzi@> wrote: > > > > > > I've not heard anything about canola being bad, but olive is bad once > > it's > > > heated, as it's got a low smoke point and can burn easily so it's good > > for > > > salads and such. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Ivy Bagnall <ivyhope99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've actually heard nothing about canola, but olive is bad once you > > start > > > > heating it. It actually causes your cholesterol to rise somehow. It's > > fine > > > > in a salad, though. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:49 PM, annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ > > ...<catlady4444%40verizon.net> > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > > > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware > > until > > > > > very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the > > > > most > > > > > convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm > > > > wondering > > > > > what you all think about it! > > > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Thanks Ann. Just to clarify. Oil free cooking is what I aim for, but not fat free. Minimal to moderate amounts of avocados, olives, nuts, seeds, soybeans whole plant foods are fine - within limits for losing/maintaining weight and not displacing calories that should come from vegetables, fruit, legumes, whole grains. <20% calories from fat, <7% calories from sat fat is ideal but who can look at a plate of food and estimate %calories from fat? Best to keep to whole plant foods with occasional small servings of higher fat whole plant foods listed above and you'll meet those percentages. Danita > > > I've been researching more, and what I've been finding fully supports Danita's comments. Here's another link which fully agrees: http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/cholesterol/cookingoil.html > >Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 From what I learned through my Plant Base Diet certification with the T. Colin Campbell Foundation, oils should not be used at all. They should be eliminated. All oils cause inflammation on the arterial walls and restrict blood flow.   We start all of our meals with broth, carrot juice, coconut water, or soy sauce and use vinegar based dressings on salads. Try this for a few weeks and then try eating out at a restaurant...you will notice how over oiled all restaurant food is and will probably not be able to eat it!  Whole sources of fats from nuts, seeds and avocado are the healthiest ways to get fat in your diet.  Hope that helps, Gretchen --- On Tue, 12/8/09, food4u1575 <dana.sommers wrote: food4u1575 <dana.sommers Re: healthiest oils Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 1:38 PM  I've heard a lot of people complaining about the use of canola oil. I think a lot of the concern comes from people thinking that modern canola oil comes from rapeseed. It actually comes from a rapeseed hybrid that contains a lower amount of erucic acid than regular rapeseed, making it safer for human consumption. @gro ups.com, " annsfarm4444 " <catlady4444@ ...> wrote: > > hello, > > I've always cooked with canola and olive oils, completely unaware until very recently that there is any controversy over canola. Although the most convincing info I found on the internet says canola is fine, I'm wondering what you all think about it! > > Please enlighten me! > > Thanks, > > Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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