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It came to my attention that someone in this group has taken our private

messages and has posted them on a message board. You can find it here:

http://www.vegetarian-society.org/my_forums/viewtopic.php?f=39 & t=5979

 

I don't know about others, but I am not all that comfortable with that.

If you want to tell people about what is discussed on this list you can

paraphrase on your own. But to take our actual messages and post them

seems a bit odd.

 

In addition, they copied/pasted my entire blog article in response to

the LA Times article (a copyright violation in America and they didn't

even give author credit).

 

Hmm...

 

Jacqueline

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I know that there is not privacy on the internet, but that is really horrid!

 

 

 

 

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Jacqueline Bodnar <jb

 

Tue, December 15, 2009 6:05:26 AM

posting our messages

 

 

It came to my attention that someone in this group has taken our private

messages and has posted them on a message board. You can find it here:

http://www.vegetari an-society. org/my_forums/ viewtopic. php?f=39 & t=5979

 

I don't know about others, but I am not all that comfortable with that.

If you want to tell people about what is discussed on this list you can

paraphrase on your own. But to take our actual messages and post them

seems a bit odd.

 

In addition, they copied/pasted my entire blog article in response to

the LA Times article (a copyright violation in America and they didn't

even give author credit).

 

Hmm...

 

Jacqueline

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I second that Jacqueline.  While I don't post all that often, I do read what

you and others talk about and I think what you found here is a gross

missappropriation of information.  Not only is it a copyright issue, it's

unethical and potentially exploitative of children, too. 

melissa

 

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

 

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb

posting our messages

 

Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:05 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

It came to my attention that someone in this group has taken our private

messages and has posted them on a message board. You can find it here:

http://www.vegetari an-society. org/my_forums/ viewtopic. php?f=39 & t=5979

 

I don't know about others, but I am not all that comfortable with that.

If you want to tell people about what is discussed on this list you can

paraphrase on your own. But to take our actual messages and post them

seems a bit odd.

 

In addition, they copied/pasted my entire blog article in response to

the LA Times article (a copyright violation in America and they didn't

even give author credit).

 

Hmm...

 

Jacqueline

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Not everything on the internet is free game...I teach this to my students all

the time.  There are times when  there is a " reasonable expectation " certain

information remains within a group.  For example a support group for grieving

widows/widowers or for AIDs sufferers.  If their identities are inadvertently

revealed, then there could be serious legal ramifications.

melissa

 

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, robin koloms <rkoloms wrote:

 

 

robin koloms <rkoloms

Re: posting our messages

 

Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:02 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know that there is not privacy on the internet, but that is really horrid!

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar .com>

@gro ups.com

Tue, December 15, 2009 6:05:26 AM

posting our messages

 

 

It came to my attention that someone in this group has taken our private

messages and has posted them on a message board. You can find it here:

http://www.vegetari an-society. org/my_forums/ viewtopic. php?f=39 & t=5979

 

I don't know about others, but I am not all that comfortable with that.

If you want to tell people about what is discussed on this list you can

paraphrase on your own. But to take our actual messages and post them

seems a bit odd.

 

In addition, they copied/pasted my entire blog article in response to

the LA Times article (a copyright violation in America and they didn't

even give author credit).

 

Hmm...

 

Jacqueline

 

 

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Exactly... I just didn't expect anyone to take our actual messages and

post them. Ack.

 

 

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robin koloms <rkoloms

Tue, December 15, 2009 9:02 am

 

 

I know that there is not privacy on the internet, but that is really

horrid!

 

________________________________

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb

 

Tue, December 15, 2009 6:05:26 AM

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I'm glad to see others agree with me and that it wasn't just me...

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

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Melissa Rinehart <mel_rinehart

Tue, December 15, 2009 9:14 am

 

 

I second that Jacqueline. While I don't post all that often, I do

read what you and others talk about and I think what you found here is a

gross missappropriation of information. Not only is it a copyright

issue, it's unethical and potentially exploitative of children, too.

melissa

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i post occassionally, and feel that this is a trusted environment. please do not

copy our posts.

 

 

 

 

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Melissa Rinehart <mel_rinehart

 

Tue, December 15, 2009 9:14:20 AM

Re: posting our messages

 

 

I second that Jacqueline.  While I don't post all that often, I do read what

you and others talk about and I think what you found here is a gross

missappropriation of information.  Not only is it a copyright issue, it's

unethical and potentially exploitative of children, too. 

melissa

 

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar .com> wrote:

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar .com>

posting our messages

@gro ups.com

Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:05 AM

 

 

 

It came to my attention that someone in this group has taken our private

messages and has posted them on a message board. You can find it here:

http://www.vegetari an-society. org/my_forums/ viewtopic. php?f=39 & t=5979

 

I don't know about others, but I am not all that comfortable with that.

If you want to tell people about what is discussed on this list you can

paraphrase on your own. But to take our actual messages and post them

seems a bit odd.

 

In addition, they copied/pasted my entire blog article in response to

the LA Times article (a copyright violation in America and they didn't

even give author credit).

 

Hmm...

 

Jacqueline

 

 

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I agree, it is unethical and kind of creepy.  I have to wonder where else this

person has posted other messages from this group if they are posting to the

Vegetarian Society of Singapore?  

 

Gretchen

 

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Melissa Rinehart <mel_rinehart wrote:

 

Melissa Rinehart <mel_rinehart

Re: posting our messages

 

Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:14 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I second that Jacqueline.  While I don't post all that often, I do read

what you and others talk about and I think what you found here is a gross

missappropriation of information.  Not only is it a copyright issue, it's

unethical and potentially exploitative of children, too. 

 

melissa

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar .com> wrote:

 

 

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar .com>

 

posting our messages

 

@gro ups.com

 

Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:05 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It came to my attention that someone in this group has taken our private

 

messages and has posted them on a message board. You can find it here:

 

http://www.vegetari an-society. org/my_forums/ viewtopic. php?f=39 & t=5979

 

 

 

I don't know about others, but I am not all that comfortable with that.

 

If you want to tell people about what is discussed on this list you can

 

paraphrase on your own. But to take our actual messages and post them

 

seems a bit odd.

 

 

 

In addition, they copied/pasted my entire blog article in response to

 

the LA Times article (a copyright violation in America and they didn't

 

even give author credit).

 

 

 

Hmm...

 

 

 

Jacqueline

 

 

 

 

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I contacted the site where our messages were posted and asked that they

remove them. I just heard back and he was pleasant and said that the

Webmaster is away for a couple of days, but he will have it taken care

of upon his return. He also asked me why we would not want those ideas

shared/posted. I explained that they were exchanged in a private group

for parents raising vegetarian kids and we would rather they weren't

posted to a public forum/message board without our consent.

 

JB

 

 

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Re: posting our messages

janeen minguillo <jminshan

Tue, December 15, 2009 9:42 am

 

 

i post occassionally, and feel that this is a trusted environment.

please do not copy our posts.

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Wow, that is really odd. I cannot imagine doing that.

 

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Jacqueline Bodnar

<jbwrote:

 

>

>

> It came to my attention that someone in this group has taken our private

> messages and has posted them on a message board. You can find it here:

> http://www.vegetarian-society.org/my_forums/viewtopic.php?f=39 & t=5979

>

> I don't know about others, but I am not all that comfortable with that.

> If you want to tell people about what is discussed on this list you can

> paraphrase on your own. But to take our actual messages and post them

> seems a bit odd.

>

> In addition, they copied/pasted my entire blog article in response to

> the LA Times article (a copyright violation in America and they didn't

> even give author credit).

>

> Hmm...

>

> Jacqueline

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Regards,

 

Vibeke

 

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know

peace.

 

 

 

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Sounds like you handled it perfectly.  Thanks!

 

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

 

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb

RE: posting our messages

 

Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 10:35 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I contacted the site where our messages were posted and asked that they

remove them. I just heard back and he was pleasant and said that the

Webmaster is away for a couple of days, but he will have it taken care

of upon his return. He also asked me why we would not want those ideas

shared/posted. I explained that they were exchanged in a private group

for parents raising vegetarian kids and we would rather they weren't

posted to a public forum/message board without our consent.

 

JB

 

 

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Re: posting our messages

janeen minguillo <jminshan >

Tue, December 15, 2009 9:42 am

@gro ups.com

 

i post occassionally, and feel that this is a trusted environment.

please do not copy our posts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh wow, that is a little scary and upsetting!!  I see my message to you

regarding that article.  I write that in confidence that only this group is

reading my personal messages.  Jacqueline, have you tried contacting this site

to complain?  I don't feel comfortable with that at all and unfortunately, may

not want to post many more messages!!

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, janeen minguillo <jminshan wrote:

 

janeen minguillo <jminshan

Re: posting our messages

 

Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:42 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i post occassionally, and feel that this is a trusted environment. please

do not copy our posts.

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Melissa Rinehart <mel_rinehart@ >

 

@gro ups.com

 

Tue, December 15, 2009 9:14:20 AM

 

Re: posting our messages

 

 

 

 

 

I second that Jacqueline.  While I don't post all that often, I do read what

you and others talk about and I think what you found here is a gross

missappropriation of information.  Not only is it a copyright issue, it's

unethical and potentially exploitative of children, too. 

 

melissa

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodna r .com> wrote:

 

 

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodna r .com>

 

posting our messages

 

@gro ups.com

 

Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:05 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It came to my attention that someone in this group has taken our private

 

messages and has posted them on a message board. You can find it here:

 

http://www.vegetari an-society. org/my_forums/ viewtopic. php?f=39 & t=5979

 

 

 

I don't know about others, but I am not all that comfortable with that.

 

If you want to tell people about what is discussed on this list you can

 

paraphrase on your own. But to take our actual messages and post them

 

seems a bit odd.

 

 

 

In addition, they copied/pasted my entire blog article in response to

 

the LA Times article (a copyright violation in America and they didn't

 

even give author credit).

 

 

 

Hmm...

 

 

 

Jacqueline

 

 

 

 

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Nevermind, Jacqueline, I just saw that you did contact him.  Do we know what

his member ID is on this board?  I feel like we should remove him from the

group so he can no longer see our messages.   Please advise.  Thanks!

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb

RE: posting our messages

 

Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 10:35 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I contacted the site where our messages were posted and asked that they

 

remove them. I just heard back and he was pleasant and said that the

 

Webmaster is away for a couple of days, but he will have it taken care

 

of upon his return. He also asked me why we would not want those ideas

 

shared/posted. I explained that they were exchanged in a private group

 

for parents raising vegetarian kids and we would rather they weren't

 

posted to a public forum/message board without our consent.

 

 

 

JB

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: posting our messages

 

janeen minguillo <jminshan >

 

Tue, December 15, 2009 9:42 am

 

@gro ups.com

 

 

 

i post occassionally, and feel that this is a trusted environment.

 

please do not copy our posts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I agree... the only reason I found this one was because I was looking at

the referring URL's to my blog. Someone from the blog had clicked to go

to my blog and it recorded that site address. Otherwise I would not have

known about it...

 

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" Gretchen Goel, Wellness Coach "

<gretchen

Tue, December 15, 2009 10:12 am

 

 

I agree, it is unethical and kind of creepy. I have to wonder where

else this person has posted other messages from this group if they are

posting to the Vegetarian Society of Singapore?

 

Gretchen

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I hope that person who posted it will have the maturity to apologize...

 

 

 

 

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Jacqueline Bodnar <jb

 

Wed, December 16, 2009 6:07:41 AM

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FYI... the site contacted me this morning and said they went to remove

our messages that had been posted and they were already gone. So the

person who posted them saw our discussion about it in the group

yesterday and took it upon themself to delete it all.

 

Jacqueline

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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