Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 My concern is not so much the soy milk itself, but the boxes most of the alternative milks come in. The lining in these aseptic boxes of alternative milk (rice, soy, hemp, oat, etc.) is BPA, the Bisphenol-A substance to be avoided in baby bottles, water bottles, etc. The prudent consumer and parent would do well to avoid BPA in all food containers. What is the good choice if one wishes to avoid milk boxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I have been using a fast home made and easy nut milk recipe from Raw Food Real World by Kenny & Melngailis called 30 second Nut Milk on pg 58. It used a raw nut butter as a starter, water, vanilla, a pinch of salt and I use agave as a sweetener. This way I have a chemical free milk that won't spike blood sugar. I use a vitamix, but would imagine a regular blender would work. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Leslie Hamilton <lfhamilton3443 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:44:11 Vegetarian Friends Boxed Milk/Soy/BPA My concern is not so much the soy milk itself, but the boxes most of the alternative milks come in. The lining in these aseptic boxes of alternative milk (rice, soy, hemp, oat, etc.) is BPA, the Bisphenol-A substance to be avoided in baby bottles, water bottles, etc. The prudent consumer and parent would do well to avoid BPA in all food containers. What is the good choice if one wishes to avoid milk boxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Hi Leslie - I have never heard this before. Where did you hear that aseptic boxes are lined with BPA? I did a quick google search, and I actually only found the opposite (that these are free from BPA). If true, so frustrating! I just eliminated canned tomatoes for this very reason. Thanks, Erikka On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Leslie Hamilton <lfhamilton3443wrote: > > > My concern is not so much the soy milk itself, but the boxes most of the > alternative milks come in. The lining in these aseptic boxes of alternative > milk (rice, soy, hemp, oat, etc.) is BPA, the Bisphenol-A substance to be > avoided in baby bottles, water bottles, etc. The prudent consumer and parent > would do well to avoid BPA in all food containers. What is the good choice > if one wishes to avoid milk boxes? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Erikka, Eden Foods makes non-bpa lined canned foods. So you can buy their tomatoes! Costs a little more than the others, but as they explain here, it's because to make the healthier can it costs them more. http://www.edenfoods.com/articles/view.php?articles_id=178 I've never heard of the boxed milk being lined with BPA. But even if you didn't buy it because of that you would pretty much have to avoid all milks. You are either going to get plastic or plastic lined then, right? I suppose you could make your own. But I'm sure there is something wrong with that somewhere along the way as well.... Jacqueline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Dear Erikka After passage of the BPA Baby Bottle Ban in Washington state this year, the Washington Toxics Coalition, in a press release, indicated that juice boxes, drinking boxes, aseptic beverage boxes, and polycarbonate sports bottles should be included in a BPA free effort. I will confirm with the WTC and let you know.  Leslie --- On Wed, 2/17/10, Erikka Fogleman <edfogleman wrote: Erikka Fogleman <edfogleman Re: Boxed Milk/Soy/BPA Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 10:24 AM  Hi Leslie - I have never heard this before. Where did you hear that aseptic boxes are lined with BPA? I did a quick google search, and I actually only found the opposite (that these are free from BPA). If true, so frustrating! I just eliminated canned tomatoes for this very reason. Thanks, Erikka On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Leslie Hamilton <lfhamilton3443@ >wrote: > > > My concern is not so much the soy milk itself, but the boxes most of the > alternative milks come in. The lining in these aseptic boxes of alternative > milk (rice, soy, hemp, oat, etc.) is BPA, the Bisphenol-A substance to be > avoided in baby bottles, water bottles, etc. The prudent consumer and parent > would do well to avoid BPA in all food containers. What is the good choice > if one wishes to avoid milk boxes? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 However, Eden's tomatoes are NOT in BPA-free cans. I recently ordered a case of Eden's pizza sauce thinking I was avoiding the BPA -- but then I talked to a rep from our co-op and he said the technology doesn't exist yet for BPA-free linings that can withstand the acidity of tomatoes for more than 6 months. If you follow the link below you'll notice they say " All 33 Eden Organic Beans including Chili, Rice & Beans, Refried, and Flavored " are BPA-free. No mention of tomatoes. Heather On 17 February 2010 15:27, Jacqueline Bodnar <jbwrote: > > > Erikka, > > Eden Foods makes non-bpa lined canned foods. So you can buy their > tomatoes! Costs a little more than the others, but as they explain here, > it's because to make the healthier can it costs them more. > http://www.edenfoods.com/articles/view.php?articles_id=178 > > I've never heard of the boxed milk being lined with BPA. But even if you > didn't buy it because of that you would pretty much have to avoid all > milks. You are either going to get plastic or plastic lined then, right? > I suppose you could make your own. But I'm sure there is something wrong > with that somewhere along the way as well.... > > Jacqueline > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Hi Jacqueline - thanks for that! I read the article, but towards the bottom of the article it says this: For the moment, Eden Foods tomato products are packaged in industry-standard BPA-containing cans. " The FDA hasn't approved any other type of can lining for highly acidic foods, " Potter said. So it looks like their beans I could buy (although I prefer making my own generally), but their tomatoes still have BPA in them. I hear what you're saying about the milk - it's quite frustrating to have so many different obstacles when our goal is simply to feed our families the healthiest food that we possibly can! I actually have made my own nut and rice milks, but lately, I've been hooked on hemp milk - I guess I could make my own too, but like you said, there's probably something along the way that could be problematic. . . Thanks again, Erikka On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb > wrote: > > > Erikka, > > Eden Foods makes non-bpa lined canned foods. So you can buy their > tomatoes! Costs a little more than the others, but as they explain here, > it's because to make the healthier can it costs them more. > http://www.edenfoods.com/articles/view.php?articles_id=178 > > I've never heard of the boxed milk being lined with BPA. But even if you > didn't buy it because of that you would pretty much have to avoid all > milks. You are either going to get plastic or plastic lined then, right? > I suppose you could make your own. But I'm sure there is something wrong > with that somewhere along the way as well.... > > Jacqueline > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Dear Jacqueline Thank you for the note about Eden foods and the BPA free cans. I did note in a recent article on re-nest.com (a green living web site), that Eden tomato cans are BPA lined, but the bean cans are not. The same article indicated TetraPak is BPA free, but lined with low-density polyethylene (LDPE). Thanks again. Leslie --- On Wed, 2/17/10, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote: Jacqueline Bodnar <jb RE: Boxed Milk/Soy/BPA Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 12:27 PM  Erikka, Eden Foods makes non-bpa lined canned foods. So you can buy their tomatoes! Costs a little more than the others, but as they explain here, it's because to make the healthier can it costs them more. http://www.edenfood s.com/articles/ view.php? articles_ id=178 I've never heard of the boxed milk being lined with BPA. But even if you didn't buy it because of that you would pretty much have to avoid all milks. You are either going to get plastic or plastic lined then, right? I suppose you could make your own. But I'm sure there is something wrong with that somewhere along the way as well.... Jacqueline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Ive seen soy milk powder in my health food store. I havent tried it, i imagine it would be a bit rough but its an alternative! Ange On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Jacqueline Bodnar <jbwrote: > > > Erikka, > > Eden Foods makes non-bpa lined canned foods. So you can buy their > tomatoes! Costs a little more than the others, but as they explain here, > it's because to make the healthier can it costs them more. > http://www.edenfoods.com/articles/view.php?articles_id=178 > > I've never heard of the boxed milk being lined with BPA. But even if you > didn't buy it because of that you would pretty much have to avoid all > milks. You are either going to get plastic or plastic lined then, right? > I suppose you could make your own. But I'm sure there is something wrong > with that somewhere along the way as well.... > > Jacqueline > > > -- " One person flying in an airplane for one hour is responsible for the same greenhouse gas emissions as a typical Bangladeshi in a whole year. " - Beatrice Schell, European Federation for Transport and Environment, November 2001. * The global livestock industry is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all the planes, trains and automobiles in the world combined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Hi all, I hear that Muir Glen has a BPA-free canned tomato line - and have read the same thing that Eden Organics has BPA-free beans, but nothing else they can is BPA-free. I've seen tomatoes in glass bottles, too. And we do buy Strauss cow milk that's bottled in returnable/reused glass and St. Benoit cow's-milk yogurt in returnable/reused ceramic crocks (which I use as starter and just make our own yogurt in those crocks that we don't return), which is really nice - though I know that doesn't work for vegans. I'd love to see soymilk and other milks in glass bottles, too! That would be lovely! And I just love the idea that we can return the milk bottles and yogurt crocks and they are reused over and over . love that! Best of luck with all of this! Lorraine On Behalf Of Erikka Fogleman Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:11 PM Re: Boxed Milk/Soy/BPA Hi Jacqueline - thanks for that! I read the article, but towards the bottom of the article it says this: For the moment, Eden Foods tomato products are packaged in industry-standard BPA-containing cans. " The FDA hasn't approved any other type of can lining for highly acidic foods, " Potter said. So it looks like their beans I could buy (although I prefer making my own generally), but their tomatoes still have BPA in them. I hear what you're saying about the milk - it's quite frustrating to have so many different obstacles when our goal is simply to feed our families the healthiest food that we possibly can! I actually have made my own nut and rice milks, but lately, I've been hooked on hemp milk - I guess I could make my own too, but like you said, there's probably something along the way that could be problematic. . . Thanks again, Erikka On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar <jb%40jacquelinebodnar.com> .com > wrote: > > > Erikka, > > Eden Foods makes non-bpa lined canned foods. So you can buy their > tomatoes! Costs a little more than the others, but as they explain here, > it's because to make the healthier can it costs them more. > http://www.edenfood <http://www.edenfoods.com/articles/view.php?articles_id=178> s.com/articles/view.php?articles_id=178 > > I've never heard of the boxed milk being lined with BPA. But even if you > didn't buy it because of that you would pretty much have to avoid all > milks. You are either going to get plastic or plastic lined then, right? > I suppose you could make your own. But I'm sure there is something wrong > with that somewhere along the way as well.... > > Jacqueline > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Yes, I do see now that it is not all their canned goods. So I suppose it's one more thing in a looooonnng list to be a avoided! LOL Jacqueline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 My biggest frustration with the boxed liquids is that the boxes are not recyclable where I live! I did some research and posted on my blog about it just last week. http://unsheeply.net/?p=118 What I found out about the liners though, that didn't go into my post, is that the layers that go into the cartons do not contain BPA. They are paper, aluminum and polyethylene (#2 recyclable). I found that mentioned on a few pages, including this one: http://www.govlink.org/hazwaste/schoolyouth/BPA.html Ever since I learned that though, I have been wondering about the aluminum. It's several layers away from the product, so it should be fine, but we try to avoid it in all other places, so... Heather http://unsheeply.net , Erikka Fogleman <edfogleman wrote: > > Hi Jacqueline - thanks for that! I read the article, but towards the bottom > of the article it says this: > > For the moment, Eden Foods tomato products are packaged in industry-standard > BPA-containing cans. " The FDA hasn't approved any other type of can lining > for highly acidic foods, " Potter said. > > So it looks like their beans I could buy (although I prefer making my own > generally), but their tomatoes still have BPA in them. > > I hear what you're saying about the milk - it's quite frustrating to have so > many different obstacles when our goal is simply to feed our families the > healthiest food that we possibly can! I actually have made my own nut and > rice milks, but lately, I've been hooked on hemp milk - I guess I could make > my own too, but like you said, there's probably something along the way that > could be problematic. . . > > Thanks again, Erikka > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jacqueline Bodnar <jb > > wrote: > > > > > > > Erikka, > > > > Eden Foods makes non-bpa lined canned foods. So you can buy their > > tomatoes! Costs a little more than the others, but as they explain here, > > it's because to make the healthier can it costs them more. > > http://www.edenfoods.com/articles/view.php?articles_id=178 > > > > I've never heard of the boxed milk being lined with BPA. But even if you > > didn't buy it because of that you would pretty much have to avoid all > > milks. You are either going to get plastic or plastic lined then, right? > > I suppose you could make your own. But I'm sure there is something wrong > > with that somewhere along the way as well.... > > > > Jacqueline > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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