McDonalds

[Guest guest]

I heard that they are supposed to come out with a " McVeggie " Sandwich--in

fact they are already out in seattle. Hopefully they will spread them all

over the country. But I still don't think that I would ever go to

McDonalds...Just don't trust ANY fast food.....

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

 

It's been interesting to me reading the posts on the group.

 

I'm a " vegetarian " not for political or ethical reasons, but simply because I

don't like the texture of red meat or pork in my mouth. It feels too

stringy. . .too much like (what it is) muscle fiber. This is one of the

reasons I don't care for TVP: it feels TOO much like dead animals in my

mouth. Maybe once a month I'll eat dead chicken (and even that freaks me out

occasionally). And every few months I get a craving for raw, dead fish, also

known as " sushi. " And, for whatever reason, it REALLY freaks me out to watch

my friends eat wings or ribs. . .there's just something SO barbaric going on

there that it kills me! There's no way in HAYALL that I could gnaw meat off

a bone. I've evolved some in the last million years or so. . .

 

While I DO share the belief with most of you that the hormones and chemicals

that we (as a collective society) are pumping into our food--BOTH VEGETABLE

and animal--are unhealthy for us in ways we've yet to begin to understand, it

amazes me how " anti-establishment " so many of my fellow vegetarians seem to

be! Being an openly gay man I understand how much the world needs to open

their collective eyes, yet I also understand how we need to work WITHIN the

system in order to affect change. If I seem like I'm rambling, please keep

reading. . .

 

I, for one, would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE!!! to be able to pull up to a

MickeyD's drive thru and order an honest to goodness veggie burger to go for

a couple of bucks and drive off full and satisfied! I'm not content with

condiments and cheese and a few slices of wilted lettuce on a shitty bun

being called a " vegetarian alternative. " GIVE ME SOME TEMPEH OR TOFU OR

SOMETHING!!!!!! I want something that I can bite into.

 

If it's cooked on the same flat-top grill as a dead cow, then so be it.

Little steps make way for BIG steps. " Thank God for little miracles " I

believe the cliche goes. .. .. I know my Vegan compadres will disagree with

me on this, but some of us avoid meat and meat products for purely epicurean

reasons. And if we can get a veggie burger cooked up in a MickyDeez on the

same grill as the dead cows are cooked, don't you think we can eventually get

a Vegan grill? It's a long shot, but we've got to start somewhere!

 

There's enough of us out here. . .let's speak up!

 

Thanks to all who've sent recipes...I've enjoyed them!

..james.

[Guest guest]

McDonald's has veggie burgers in England, thanks to all the mad cow

disease over there & nobody wants to eat cow meat with bacteria that

is not destroyable. But, even if they come out with a veggie burger

here, by spending our money @ McD's, we are still supporting the

company which sells cow & chicken & fish burgers. I think the

saddest thing about all of the fast food chains is how kid friendly

they try to be. Try to get kids to want to come their and eat their

poison. Nothing but cancer causing food, then McD's wants you to

donate money to help the kids they helped make sick. It is hard to

trust them even if they have a veg burger, because they could be

putting it on the same grill that a cow patty just got fried on. If

I am craving a fast food burger & can't get rid of the craving, I

will go to Burger King & order a veggie whopper without the mayo. It

is the whopper without the meat. I never eat it without thoroughly

examining the bun. Some people will try to put this on a bun that

has burger remains on it. BK charges .99 to 1.09 in Georgia, for

this, which is about a buck off the regular whopper price. I know I

am still supporting a meat food joint by doing this, so I do this

very rarely. I'm sure you all know what it is like to crave the

taste, but not want to eat the flesh.

 

Dahmen

 

 

, Bethie1480@a... wrote:

> I heard that they are supposed to come out with a " McVeggie "

Sandwich--in

> fact they are already out in seattle. Hopefully they will spread

them all

> over the country. But I still don't think that I would ever go to

> McDonalds...Just don't trust ANY fast food.....

[Guest guest]

The McDonalds website gives a complete list of ingredients for all their

products, a very few of which claim to have no animal products, but they

have a disclaimer that nothing on the menu is certified vegetarian because

anything in the restaurant kitchen might be mingled with anything else. The

cheeseburger without the meat pattie is still cooked on the grill with with

the others.

 

Be kind. Be of good cheer.

Dick Ford

[Guest guest]

>I dont know if you get Wimpey in the USA but they do

>a chicken style

>Quorn burger coated in a crunchy maize coating.

 

Hi, yes isn't this a nice list??? ;=) I love it here

and will look forward to talking to you.

 

About Wimpey: I don't think they do have them in the

USA - can't remember seeing them outside the UK ;=) I

also haven't seen Quorn here (in Canada), but I

understand that Quorn, while vegetarian, isn't vegan -

am I right? Something about egg in it? Pity, really

 

Best,

 

Pat in Montreal

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Me again.

Not that I meant to suggest that it was necessary for

vegetarians that their burgers, Quorn or other, should

be egg free ;=) Just that it woulda been nice if there

was something as good (by reputation - I've never had

it) that was also vegan and would make *everyone*

happy. That's all. *lol*

 

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[Guest guest]

Not only that, their cows have destroyed thousands of acres of rainforest and

contributed dramatically to global warming. Bad behavoir should never be

rewarded.

 

Lorraine <ldemi wrote: Hi Cassie,

Don't know if it's still true, but McDonalds used to use beef in the

processing of their fries -- leaving you able to have a bottle of water

there. ugh. Picnics are sooooo much better, you're right!!

Have a great day,

Lorraine

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Cassie Dixon

Friday, April 18, 2008 10:58 AM

 

RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily and I

could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I want

to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it hurts

me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be included,

but a picnic would be better suggestions.

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar

<jb%40jacquelinebodnar.com> .com> wrote: Heather wrote: " They've

never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people

view as

deprivation!). "

 

Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my

kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them that

I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that place

with having fun.

 

Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't have

people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

 

Jacqueline

 

 

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[Guest guest]

If you haven't seen it, rent McLibel - very good information about

how bad and unethical a company they really are. Not that Burger

King or Wendy's et al are really any better, but informatve

documentary non the less.

 

~Susan

 

 

On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:44 PM, robin koloms wrote:

 

> Not only that, their cows have destroyed thousands of acres of

> rainforest and contributed dramatically to global warming. Bad

> behavoir should never be rewarded.

>

> Lorraine <ldemi wrote: Hi Cassie,

> Don't know if it's still true, but McDonalds used to use beef in the

> processing of their fries -- leaving you able to have a bottle of

> water

> there. ugh. Picnics are sooooo much better, you're right!!

> Have a great day,

> Lorraine

>

>

>

> On

> Behalf Of Cassie Dixon

> Friday, April 18, 2008 10:58 AM

>

> RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being

> picked on

>

> I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily

> and I

> could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I

> want

> to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it

> hurts

> me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be

> included,

> but a picnic would be better suggestions.

>

> Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar

> <jb%40jacquelinebodnar.com> .com> wrote: Heather wrote:

> " They've

> never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people

> view as

> deprivation!). "

>

> Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my

> kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them

> that

> I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that place

> with having fun.

>

> Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't

> have

> people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

>

> Jacqueline

>

>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try

> it now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey!

 

Is there anything at McDonalds on the breakfast menu that is vegan and gluten

free? I keep thinking, but nothing comes to mind besides orange juice and black

coffee.

 

P.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Other possibilities, but you'll have to double-check:

- hash browns

- apples & caramel

- ice tea

 

I don't know if they offer garden salad during the a.m., I don't go there.

 

Pam

 

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Penelope Schneider

<tuba.gypsie wrote:

> Hey!

>

> Is there anything at McDonalds on the breakfast menu that is vegan and

> gluten free? I keep thinking, but nothing comes to mind besides orange juice

> and black coffee.

>

> P.

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can always check the main McDonald's website for the ingredients listing-I

had checked a few years ago hoping that my kids could have the grilled chicken

salad--no doing--the seasonings on the chicken are NOT gluten free.

 

Susan

Front Royal, VA

 

--- On Fri, 11/21/08, Penelope Schneider <tuba.gypsie wrote:

 

Penelope Schneider <tuba.gypsie

McDonalds

 

Friday, November 21, 2008, 4:22 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey!

 

Is there anything at McDonalds on the breakfast menu that is vegan and gluten

free? I keep thinking, but nothing comes to mind besides orange juice and black

coffee.

 

P.

 

 

[Guest guest]

I'm not vegan, but often caramel is made by melting brown sugar and butter.

 

Given the franken-aspect of mass food production, their caramel may not have

either... ;-)

 

 

 

 

Other possibilities, but you'll have to double-check:

- hash browns

- apples & caramel

- ice tea

 

 

.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Often has powdered milk in it too. But I was thinking you could order

the apples and caramel and throw out the caramel, which is just a

little dipping tub and not poured over the apples.

 

For a while they had an apple, grape, and walnut salad for breakfast.

That was three years ago, though, I don't know if it is still an

option anywhere.

 

Pam

 

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:19 PM, John Daleske <john wrote:

> I'm not vegan, but often caramel is made by melting brown sugar and butter.

>

> Given the franken-aspect of mass food production, their caramel may not have

> either... ;-)

>

> Other possibilities, but you'll have to double-check:

> - hash browns

> - apples & caramel

> - ice tea

>

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hash browns are fried in the same oil so high cross contamination risk and

I'd also double check the ingredients as their fries contain wheat and beef

fat! I got the apples and caramel there once a few years back when I was

with someone who just had to stop and get a big mac! I got sick on them! I

got sick on their salad the one time I had in many years ago too! I just

avoid them at all cost.

 

For a fast breakfast that taste good and is healthy I would recommend Amy's

scrambled tofu. I was skeptical about microwaving hash browns, but it turned

out really good! Going through a drive thru for breakfast just doesn't seem

like an option for us yet. I imagine within a few years we will have some

choices but for now, the microwave breakfast are about as close as you can

get. Amy's also has cream of rice, which I haven't tried yet. I've also made

up a big batch of scrambled tofu and sausages (search archives) and made up

individual meals in containers that I could quickly heat and eat. Leftover

pizza makes a great breakfast too!

 

 

 

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:19 PM, John Daleske <john wrote:

 

> I'm not vegan, but often caramel is made by melting brown sugar and

> butter.

>

> Given the franken-aspect of mass food production, their caramel may not

> have either... ;-)

>

>

> Other possibilities, but you'll have to double-check:

> - hash browns

> - apples & caramel

> - ice tea

>

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here's the ingredient list of their foods:

http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal/nutrition_ingredients.html

 

If I'm out and about, and want a quick bite, I'd be safer going to a grocery

store and grabbing some fruit and a bagged salad rather than going to McDonalds!

 

Deborah

 

 

 

 

I'm not vegan, but often caramel is made by melting brown sugar and butter.

 

Given the franken-aspect of mass food production, their caramel may not have

either... ;-)

 

Other possibilities, but you'll have to double-check:

- hash browns

- apples & caramel

- ice tea

 

.

 

 

[Guest guest]

I believe they use beef " flavouring " in the hashbrowns and french fries.

 

BL

 

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:19 PM, John Daleske <john wrote:

 

> I'm not vegan, but often caramel is made by melting brown sugar and

> butter.

>

> Given the franken-aspect of mass food production, their caramel may not

> have either... ;-)

>

> Other possibilities, but you'll have to double-check:

> - hash browns

> - apples & caramel

> - ice tea

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Another thing to be concerned about in many restaurants is that produce is

often spayed with a preservative to keep it fresher longer. There may or may

not be gluten in the spays used, but they are chemicals that many have

sensitivities too. Salad isn't always the safe choice! I've gotten really

sick on plain salads from a lot of places! Wendy's baked potato is my fast

food choice whenever I'm out and need a quick bite. I carry a lunch box with

an ice pack and condiments so I don't have to worry what place has what.

Ordering salads, even at nicer places, usually need to be sent back at least

once, often 2 or 3 times! I only order salads when I'm really craving one

and cross my fingers and hope they get it right the first time! lol If you

frequent a place though, they get to know you, and that is always a good

thing as long as your a courteous and patient customer, which can be

difficult at times! Don't be rude to the people handling your food! lol

Also many placed serve bread with salad now too, so you have to remember no

croutons and no bread, and no cheese, and no dressing, and no meat, etc. (I

have an entire wait staff speech in my head! lol)

 

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Susan Haggerty <haggboys03wrote:

 

> You can always check the main McDonald's website for the ingredients

> listing-I had checked a few years ago hoping that my kids could have the

> grilled chicken salad--no doing--the seasonings on the chicken are NOT

> gluten free.

>

> Susan

> Front Royal, VA

>

> --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Penelope Schneider

<tuba.gypsie<tuba.gypsie%40>>

> wrote:

>

> Penelope Schneider <tuba.gypsie <tuba.gypsie%40>>

> McDonalds

> To:

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> Friday, November 21, 2008, 4:22 PM

>

>

> Hey!

>

> Is there anything at McDonalds on the breakfast menu that is vegan and

> gluten free? I keep thinking, but nothing comes to mind besides orange juice

> and black coffee.

>

> P.

>

>