Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Does anyone know if black beans, pinto beans (precooked) and soy milk would hold together while cooking? I have an idea to add vegetables to this and bake like meatloaf and serve on rice. Freezing the extras for quick meals. Your thoughts would be appreciated. MichelleS Still not sure if allergic to gluten but feel better without it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I would add in a grain to help stick it together; oats, brown rice, quinoa flakes, something like that. I make a burger that uses oats, tofu, and vegetables, and sometimes I use pureed beans or okara in place of the tofu, etc. Pam On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Michelle <msteen wrote: > Does anyone know if black beans, pinto beans (precooked) and soy milk > would hold together while cooking? > > I have an idea to add vegetables to this and bake like meatloaf and > serve on rice. Freezing the extras for quick meals. > > Your thoughts would be appreciated. > MichelleS > Still not sure if allergic to gluten but feel better without it! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Michelle, if you feel better without gluten, I would say you are probably wise to avoid it. The early signs for lots of people are just that... generalized and non-specific. By avoiding the gluten while your body is still only reacting a little like that, can help save you from getting worse. Initially, that's the way it was for me. When I was a kid, I noticed that my tummy sure felt heavy after a plate of wheat spaghetti. As I got older and continued eating gluten, I developed more symptoms. By the time I was 30, I was seriously ill. If anyone around me had known that gluten might be the problem, my life would probably have been a lot more comfortable. Regarding your question about black beans, pinto beans (precooked) and soy milk holding together. If you mash the cooked beans with the soy milk, they will hold together even without baking. The texture will be like a bean dip or spread. It will freeze fine and be convenient if you store it in useable quantities. As an alternative flavour, maybe try adding a little tomato juice with Italian herbs instead of soy milk. Deborah Does anyone know if black beans, pinto beans (precooked) and soy milk would hold together while cooking? I have an idea to add vegetables to this and bake like meatloaf and serve on rice. Freezing the extras for quick meals. Your thoughts would be appreciated. MichelleS Still not sure if allergic to gluten but feel better without it! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Definitely throw some kind of grain into it and mash the beans. This sounds fabulous! I'm going to have to try this! I usually use rice milk or hemp milk in baking. Hemp milk is nuttier and thinker so I like it in stuff like this. Rice milk I use in desserts and breads because it's mild. Soy milk tends to have an aftertaste for me that I don't like. That's just my opinion though. Use whatever your comfortable with! You could also grind up some nuts into the mix. Nuts are high in fat though so that can possibly be an issue. Or hemp seeds, as they are high in protein and omega fatty acids. You don't want to over do the protein though. Too much can be just as dangerous as not enough! I actually turn jaundice every time I eat protein no matter how little I eat because I can't brake it down. If I make this beanloaf it would probably last me 3 months! Normal people can and should eat more protein than that. I'm just making a point that too much can run havoc on the body. Good luck with your loaf and let us know how it works out! On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Michelle <msteen wrote: > Does anyone know if black beans, pinto beans (precooked) and soy milk > would hold together while cooking? > > I have an idea to add vegetables to this and bake like meatloaf and > serve on rice. Freezing the extras for quick meals. > > Your thoughts would be appreciated. > MichelleS > Still not sure if allergic to gluten but feel better without it! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I used half a bag of black beans and half a bag of pinto beans that I soaked together over night in water and drained and rinsed 3 times, I added blanched potatoes (to get rid of the starch), yellow onion, to all off the same vegetables I used in " supper tonight " , half a bunch of fresh cilantro leaves, sprinkled Emeril's Essence and salt(with iodine) and pepper across the top. I did all of that and forgot to cook the beans first! My beans and potatoes are hard! I put the whole pan of ingredients into a crockpot, added tomato juice and water. We are having vegetable soup for supper. I'm going to keep trying different recipees and my own recipes but like someone said " live and learn " ! Hugs, MichelleS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 You can't cook beans in tomato juice; the acidity of the tomatoes blocks the softening of the beans, and they'll stay hard forever. I learned that the hard way. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Michelle <msteen wrote: > I used half a bag of black beans and half a bag of pinto beans that I > soaked together over night in water and drained and rinsed 3 times, I > added blanched potatoes (to get rid of the starch), yellow onion, to > all off the same vegetables I used in " supper tonight " , half a bunch of > fresh cilantro leaves, sprinkled Emeril's Essence and salt(with iodine) > and pepper across the top. > > I did all of that and forgot to cook the beans first! My beans and > potatoes are hard! I put the whole pan of ingredients into a crockpot, > added tomato juice and water. We are having vegetable soup for supper. > > I'm going to keep trying different recipees and my own recipes but like > someone said " live and learn " ! > Hugs, MichelleS > > > -- " This isn't a matter of Republican and Democrat. It's not liberal. It's not conservative. It's simply common sense. This is a national emergency. . . . You have to be honest about the way the biosphere works, and we have to move this country very rapidly in a different direction. " --John Orr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 What do I do with all of this soup? I have 2 of 3 quart crock pots full. I put 1 crockpot into individual plastic freezer containers into the freezer. Will I have to throw all of this food away? Frustrated to say the least, MichelleS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Good point! Me too! :-) However, one can add tomato juice after the beans are cooked. You can't cook beans in tomato juice; the acidity of the tomatoes blocks the softening of the beans, and they'll stay hard forever. I learned that the hard way. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Michelle <msteen wrote: > I used half a bag of black beans and half a bag of pinto beans that I > soaked together over night in water and drained and rinsed 3 times, I > added blanched potatoes (to get rid of the starch), yellow onion, to > all off the same vegetables I used in " supper tonight " , half a bunch of > fresh cilantro leaves, sprinkled Emeril's Essence and salt(with iodine) > and pepper across the top. > > I did all of that and forgot to cook the beans first! My beans and > potatoes are hard! I put the whole pan of ingredients into a crockpot, > added tomato juice and water. We are having vegetable soup for supper. > > I'm going to keep trying different recipees and my own recipes but like > someone said " live and learn " ! > Hugs, MichelleS > > > -- " This isn't a matter of Republican and Democrat. It's not liberal. It's not conservative. It's simply common sense. This is a national emergency. . . . You have to be honest about the way the biosphere works, and we have to move this country very rapidly in a different direction. " --John Orr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I had to throw away an enormous pot of chili when I slipped up with the tomato sauce/beans. Hard beans can really upset your digestive tract, so eating them doesn't make sense. You could pick the beans out and throw them away, using the rest of the soup in some manner, but that's probably a lot of work with all the beans spread out through the soup. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Michelle <msteen wrote: > What do I do with all of this soup? I have 2 of 3 quart crock pots > full. I put 1 crockpot into individual plastic freezer containers into > the freezer. Will I have to throw all of this food away? > > Frustrated to say the least, > MichelleS > > > -- " This isn't a matter of Republican and Democrat. It's not liberal. It's not conservative. It's simply common sense. This is a national emergency. . . . You have to be honest about the way the biosphere works, and we have to move this country very rapidly in a different direction. " --John Orr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 What about putting it in a colander to rinse out the tomato sauce, and then re-cook in water? Then add back in tomato sauce when the beans are done. That way, all you are wasting is the sauce. Pam On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Sally Parrott Ashbrook <sally.parrott wrote: > I had to throw away an enormous pot of chili when I slipped up with the > tomato sauce/beans. Hard beans can really upset your digestive tract, so > eating them doesn't make sense. You could pick the beans out and throw them > away, using the rest of the soup in some manner, but that's probably a lot > of work with all the beans spread out through the soup. > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Michelle <msteen wrote: > >> What do I do with all of this soup? I have 2 of 3 quart crock pots >> full. I put 1 crockpot into individual plastic freezer containers into >> the freezer. Will I have to throw all of this food away? >> >> Frustrated to say the least, >> MichelleS >> >> >> > > -- > " This isn't a matter of Republican and Democrat. It's not liberal. It's not > conservative. It's simply common sense. This is a national emergency. . . . > You have to be honest about the way the biosphere works, and we have to move > this country very rapidly in a different direction. " --John Orr > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 In my case, there were a lot of other foods than just beans in the tomato sauce, and I would have to had to rinse it out and then pick through everything else in there to get the beans out. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:57 AM, pdw <pdworkman wrote: > What about putting it in a colander to rinse out the tomato sauce, and > then re-cook in water? Then add back in tomato sauce when the beans > are done. That way, all you are wasting is the sauce. > > Pam > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Sally Parrott Ashbrook > <sally.parrott <sally.parrott%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > I had to throw away an enormous pot of chili when I slipped up with the > > tomato sauce/beans. Hard beans can really upset your digestive tract, > so > > eating them doesn't make sense. You could pick the beans out and throw > them > > away, using the rest of the soup in some manner, but that's probably a > lot > > of work with all the beans spread out through the soup. > > > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Michelle <msteen<msteen%40woh.rr.com>> > wrote: > > > >> What do I do with all of this soup? I have 2 of 3 quart crock pots > >> full. I put 1 crockpot into individual plastic freezer containers into > >> the freezer. Will I have to throw all of this food away? > >> > >> Frustrated to say the least, > >> MichelleS > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > " This isn't a matter of Republican and Democrat. It's not liberal. It's > not > > conservative. It's simply common sense. This is a national emergency. . . > . > > You have to be honest about the way the biosphere works, and we have to > move > > this country very rapidly in a different direction. " --John Orr > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Yes, but it wouldn't hurt if everything else got re-cooked too. If it is all mushy at the end, just run it through the blender, add a bit of milk sub, and make a cream soup. Pam On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Sally Parrott Ashbrook <sally.parrott wrote: > In my case, there were a lot of other foods than just beans in the tomato > sauce, and I would have to had to rinse it out and then pick through > everything else in there to get the beans out. > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:57 AM, pdw <pdworkman wrote: > >> What about putting it in a colander to rinse out the tomato sauce, and >> then re-cook in water? Then add back in tomato sauce when the beans >> are done. That way, all you are wasting is the sauce. >> >> Pam >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Sally Parrott Ashbrook >> <sally.parrott <sally.parrott%40gmail.com>> wrote: >> > I had to throw away an enormous pot of chili when I slipped up with the >> > tomato sauce/beans. Hard beans can really upset your digestive tract, >> so >> > eating them doesn't make sense. You could pick the beans out and throw >> them >> > away, using the rest of the soup in some manner, but that's probably a >> lot >> > of work with all the beans spread out through the soup. >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Michelle >> > <msteen<msteen%40woh.rr.com>> >> wrote: >> > >> >> What do I do with all of this soup? I have 2 of 3 quart crock pots >> >> full. I put 1 crockpot into individual plastic freezer containers into >> >> the freezer. Will I have to throw all of this food away? >> >> >> >> Frustrated to say the least, >> >> MichelleS >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > " This isn't a matter of Republican and Democrat. It's not liberal. It's >> not >> > conservative. It's simply common sense. This is a national emergency. . >> > . >> . >> > You have to be honest about the way the biosphere works, and we have to >> move >> > this country very rapidly in a different direction. " --John Orr >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 In my case, the chili wasn't vegetarian, so no, that wouldn't have worked. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, pdw <pdworkman wrote: > Yes, but it wouldn't hurt if everything else got re-cooked too. If it > is all mushy at the end, just run it through the blender, add a bit of > milk sub, and make a cream soup. > > Pam > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Sally Parrott Ashbrook > > <sally.parrott <sally.parrott%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > In my case, there were a lot of other foods than just beans in the tomato > > sauce, and I would have to had to rinse it out and then pick through > > everything else in there to get the beans out. > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:57 AM, pdw <pdworkman<pdworkman%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > >> What about putting it in a colander to rinse out the tomato sauce, and > >> then re-cook in water? Then add back in tomato sauce when the beans > >> are done. That way, all you are wasting is the sauce. > >> > >> Pam > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Sally Parrott Ashbrook > >> <sally.parrott <sally.parrott%40gmail.com> <sally.parrott% > 40gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > I had to throw away an enormous pot of chili when I slipped up with > the > >> > tomato sauce/beans. Hard beans can really upset your digestive > tract, > >> so > >> > eating them doesn't make sense. You could pick the beans out and throw > >> them > >> > away, using the rest of the soup in some manner, but that's probably a > >> lot > >> > of work with all the beans spread out through the soup. > >> > > >> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Michelle > >> > <msteen <msteen%40woh.rr.com><msteen%40woh.rr.com>> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> What do I do with all of this soup? I have 2 of 3 quart crock pots > >> >> full. I put 1 crockpot into individual plastic freezer containers > into > >> >> the freezer. Will I have to throw all of this food away? > >> >> > >> >> Frustrated to say the least, > >> >> MichelleS > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > " This isn't a matter of Republican and Democrat. It's not liberal. > It's > >> not > >> > conservative. It's simply common sense. This is a national emergency. > . > >> > . > >> . > >> > You have to be honest about the way the biosphere works, and we have > to > >> move > >> > this country very rapidly in a different direction. " --John Orr > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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