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My son barely eats anything as it is.  It turns out he has to go GFCF, and this

means the few things he will eat are off the list.  He is 14.  Is there a

resource here for recipes?  I truly and honestly don't know where to start.  My

son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. "   He

will eat nothing then.  Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times push

away his plate and eat nothing.  I have been up all night concerned about how I

am going to handle this.  A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks

seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be significant.  We

are not going to eat vegan, by the way.  Any help or suggestions would be

appreciated.  Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>>> Is there

> a resource here for recipes?

 

Diane, at the bottom of each message posted, there is a link to our

recipe files. Or you can go to our home page and click on files. The

first in line is the link to our recipes. I hope that you will be

able to find something there that your son will eat and enjoy.

 

Welcome to the group.

LaDonna

 

 

 

I truly and honestly don't know where to

> start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat

> anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would

> many times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night

> concerned about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high

> holistic reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years,

> his problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the

> way. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

>

>

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Diane,

 

I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter barely

eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to ensure her

nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your son will

eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries,

blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of spinach or

collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more), enriched soy

milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon of ground

flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and a splash

of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even diabetics

can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his tastes and

even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that gives you so

much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks it is ok

but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3 bananas with a

half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be smooth.

Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from it makes

it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very tasty

(better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the day we at

least know we had that.

 

What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that list to

help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of ideas

because I have to try and please us all (which is hard).

 

Good luck

Kim

 

 

 

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Diane <heyitsme_di wrote:

 

> My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go GFCF,

> and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is

> there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to

> start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat

> anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would

> many times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night

> concerned about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high

> holistic reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years,

> his problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the

> way. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

>

>

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Diane,

 

My son is younger than yours but we are having success with an ABA

approach to his feeding issues. They use a food reinforcer (for us,

popsicles and candy!) and gradually work up to accepting a new food.

First putting the food on the plate, them touching it, then bringing it

to their lips, then holding it in their mouth (they are allowed to spit

it out after) until eventually they have to eat the whole bite - each

time, their reward is the preferred food. It is a very, very looooong

process, but it has been effective. We only get ABA at home for about 4

hours per week in addition to the work they do at lunch and snack during

school; but your other option is to seek out a local intensive feeding

clinic (~40 hours/week).

 

Hope this helps,

Amber

 

 

 

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I have teenaged sons however we've been doing alternative diet things since they

were about 8 years old.  But, they still want their pizza and cookies and

pasta. There are still times they get angry that they can't go to a social event

and eat whatever is served.  They do sometimes get embarrassed showing up at

Scout Camp with coolers of their own food and having to prepare their own food.

 

Here's a thought that helps my sons with the food allergies--they would much

rather be known as the cool kids who participate in everything (including the

extreme sports -- rapelling, rock climbing, white water rafting, mountain

biking, etc) and eat strange foods than be the kids that are sick all the time

and hold the group back from doing fun activities.  It's not cool to be sick

having to be in the bathroom all the time or holding the group back because they

don't have enough energy or strength to get through the activity.

 

It is true--my kids recognize that when the eat the offending foods--they feel

crappy, they are grouchy and now one wants to be with them.  Not a great way to

live.  They've accepted their situation and are making the best of it.  And they

are much healthier---none of them have been ill requiring an antibiotic in

almost 8 years.

 

Now that they are teens, my kids want to learn how to cook.  One loves to

stir-fry vegetables.  One does great desserts.  All of them make their own pizza

dough.  They will look through my recipes and make suggestions.  They are

thinking outside the box and suggest different herbs for things --not always

successful but great to have them learning and thinking.

 

Perhaps enlising your son in his own diet and recovery can make for a better

situation.

 

Susan,

Front Royal, VA

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Diane <heyitsme_di wrote:

 

Diane <heyitsme_di

New Member, Need Help

 

Monday, February 16, 2009, 8:49 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

My son barely eats anything as it is.  It turns out he has to go GFCF, and this

means the few things he will eat are off the list.  He is 14.  Is there a

resource here for recipes?  I truly and honestly don't know where to start.  My

son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. "   He

will eat nothing then.  Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times push

away his plate and eat nothing.  I have been up all night concerned about how I

am going to handle this.  A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks

seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be significant.  We

are not going to eat vegan, by the way.  Any help or suggestions would be

appreciated.  Thank you.

 

 

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Diane,

 

On the GFCFRecipes and GFCFKids , there are a number of

parents who had kids that limited what they ate. Whenthey first went

GFCF, there was some refusal to eat (there is also a withdrawal period

where you generally feel bad). After that, their children were much

more open to new foods. The way your son acts may be because he knows

the food makes him feel bad, but he is addicted to it.

 

Amanda

 

 

, Diane <heyitsme_di

wrote:

>

> My son barely eats anything as it is.  It turns out he has to go

GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the list.  He

is 14.  Is there a resource here for recipes?  I truly and honestly

don't know where to start.  My son is not a child who will respond to

" eat this or don't eat anything. "   He will eat nothing then.  Even

with gluten and dairy, he would many times push away his plate and eat

nothing.  I have been up all night concerned about how I am going to

handle this.  A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks

seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be

significant.  We are not going to eat vegan, by the way.  Any help or

suggestions would be appreciated.  Thank you.

 

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I'd like to echo what Amanda says. Many people discover that their children

who were very limited in what they would willingly eat were limited to the

foods they are allergic to or intolerant of. It's strange, isn't it, to

think of people being addicted like that to food that's sickening them? But

it's true for such a large number of people that after you've been hanging

out in the food allergic/intolerant community for a while, you start to take

it for granted. After a time period of cutting out the offending foods,

their palates broaden, and they're at least willing, if not happy, to eat a

broader range of foods. So there's hope for your son. :)

 

Sally

 

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM, aldohert <amandakirby wrote:

 

> Diane,

>

> On the GFCFRecipes and GFCFKids , there are a number of

> parents who had kids that limited what they ate. Whenthey first went

> GFCF, there was some refusal to eat (there is also a withdrawal period

> where you generally feel bad). After that, their children were much

> more open to new foods. The way your son acts may be because he knows

> the food makes him feel bad, but he is addicted to it.

>

> Amanda

>

> --- In

<%40>,

> Diane <heyitsme_di

> wrote:

>

> >

> > My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go

> GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He

> is 14. Is there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly

> don't know where to start. My son is not a child who will respond to

> " eat this or don't eat anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even

> with gluten and dairy, he would many times push away his plate and eat

> nothing. I have been up all night concerned about how I am going to

> handle this. A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks

> seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be

> significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any help or

> suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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This is a vegan thread. I sympathize with your situation, but why are you

looking for guidance on a vegan thread if as you say below, " We are not going to

eat vegan, by the way "

 

 

heyitsme_di

Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:49:21 -0800

New Member, Need Help

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go

GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is

there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to

start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat

anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would many

times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night concerned

about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high holistic reputation

says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be

significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any help or

suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

 

 

 

 

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In response to Patricia's post, I'll reiterate what Margaret said several

threads ago:

 

" There are several, if not many, of us, who are not vegan but who write for

and respond to and learn from this group. I am not vegan but have food

allergies that keep me away from dairy and eggs and gluten. Any of my

baking or non-meat meals are essentially gluten-free/vegan out of

necessity. A group that is strictly gluten-free and not vegan would just

not be that useful for me because of my other restrictions. While my food

choices do not match the group's title everyday, I'm still a contributor who

learns a lot from those who post. "

 

There are plenty of us in this group who respect vegans but don't keep an

entirely vegan diet. Diane, you're welcome to learn from the wisdom of the

group members. We all have to find our own ways through this life and diet.

We can all contribute and learn even if our diets are not identical.

 

Sally

 

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Patricia Boggs <pboggs wrote:

 

>

> This is a vegan thread. I sympathize with your situation, but why are you

> looking for guidance on a vegan thread if as you say below, " We are not

> going to eat vegan, by the way "

>

> To:

<%40>

> heyitsme_di <heyitsme_di%40>

> Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:49:21 -0800

>

> New Member, Need Help

>

> My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go GFCF, and

> this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is there a

> resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to start.

> My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. "

> He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times

> push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night concerned

> about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high holistic

> reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, his

> problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any

> help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

>

>

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My family isn't " vegan " either, although my 3 YO daughter refuses to eat meat

(she pretty much refuses to eat almost anything). I have gotten some great

recipes from this group since we are GFCF and my son is egg free and soy free. I

also want to limit his meat intake (he used to have a beef allergy) and my

husband refuses to eat red meat. I love this group for providing great recipes,

especially some high in protein, that my family can eat. Basically, I can

understand what this person is saying when she is saying that they aren't vegan.

This group was actually recommended by another group since I was looking for

non-meat alternatives for my children.

 

 

 

: pboggs: Mon, 16

Feb 2009 20:47:24 +0000RE: New Member, Need

HelpThis is a vegan thread. I sympathize with your situation, but why are you

looking for guidance on a vegan thread if as you say below, " We are not going to

eat vegan, by the way "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for the suggestions, Kim!

 

Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to

what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods

that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and

won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out.

Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good,

he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about

coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for

smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though?

 

What is jamba juice?

 

What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he

isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he

likes and can have:

 

strawberry

apple

apricot

banana (but he isn't crazy about it)

blueberry

cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently)

grapes (doesn't like them much)

lemon

papaya (never had it)

peach (so-so on it)

pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away)

pineapple

 

This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes

it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a

plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle

is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle

his entire life.

 

Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you

think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the

taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty

undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink.

These are the veggies he can have:

 

carrot

avocado (certainly that would taste weird?)

beets (I don't like them myself)

cucumber

green pepper

peas

spinach

string bean

tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might

be worth a try?)

 

My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and

losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you!

 

Diane

 

 

 

, kim newman

<veggiegalkn wrote:

>

> Diane,

>

> I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter

barely

> eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to

ensure her

> nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your

son will

> eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries,

> blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of

spinach or

> collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more),

enriched soy

> milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon

of ground

> flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and

a splash

> of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even

diabetics

> can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his

tastes and

> even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that

gives you so

> much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks

it is ok

> but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3

bananas with a

> half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be

smooth.

> Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from

it makes

> it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very

tasty

> (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the

day we at

> least know we had that.

>

> What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that

list to

> help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of

ideas

> because I have to try and please us all (which is hard).

>

> Good luck

> Kim

>

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Because I am desperate. Because my son looks like the walking dead,

and not just to me, but to three doctors thusfar. Because a very

well-respected and renowned, nationally-known doctor basically gave

him a death sentence for his future last week. Because I am worried

sick and not sleeping much for days on end. And because if I limit

him to fruits and vegetables, no meat, when every bite of food put

into his mouth has been a fight his entire life (14 years), he is

going to go on the way he is going. And he has barely eaten anything

in several days.

 

You may or may not be aware that there are not many groups on the Net

to address this issue. And furthermore, I am very frustrated because

every single website I look at for recipes addresses these issues

with rice or other grains he cannot have. Most of them do not apply

to me. The only thing I can do is consult with other people who have

had to navigate a situation such as this.

 

I am a parent of an only child who is sick at heart, but I will be

willing to quit the group if anyone feels what I am looking for is

not appropriate for the intended purposes of the group. Just let me

know, okay?

 

, Patricia Boggs

<pboggs wrote:

>

>

> This is a vegan thread. I sympathize with your situation, but why

are you looking for guidance on a vegan thread if as you say

below, " We are not going to eat vegan, by the way "

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he

has to go GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the

list. He is 14. Is there a resource here for recipes? I truly and

honestly don't know where to start. My son is not a child who will

respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. " He will eat nothing

then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times push away his

plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night concerned about how

I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high holistic reputation

says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems

will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any

help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

>

>

>

>

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Out of all the milk subs we have tested almond milk is the most favoured,

followed by coconut milk. What most people mean by yucky taste is the lack

of fatty mouth feel they are used to with animal milks. Coconut milk used

to be the favourite here, but the children are older now (13 - 19) and

prefer almond milk. We don't use any milk sub for drinking unless it's an

occassional glass of hot chocolate or something. Mostly milk subs are used

for cereals and once-in-a-blue moon for baking.

 

Another alternative is hemp milk, but my family only likes that in cooking.

 

What grains, seeds or nuts are you permitted to use for his baking? What

components equal good taste to him?

 

It's a very hard issue to have a self-limiting child who would literally

rather starve than eat something he doesn't want. I am sure it's very scary

and frustrating for you.

 

I don't usually invite people to other groups because I think it's bad

edicate, but have you joined my group gfcfrecipes here at . We have

about 4800 members, many of whom have self-limiting children on the gfcf

diet as well as having other allergies.

 

Oh, btw, we just found out from Ocean Spray that their craisins contain

wheat as a non-stick agent.

 

BL

 

 

 

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, heyitsme_di <heyitsme_di wrote:

 

> Thanks for the suggestions, Kim!

>

> Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to

> what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods

> that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and

> won't eat them even in candy.

>

 

 

 

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Sounds from your other post like he might need a feeding clinic or

eating disorder clinic as well.

 

But yes, coconut milk would be great for smoothies. It is not super

sweet, I think it would be nice. You can add lots of different

veggies to a smoothie. Will he drink it if it doesn't look good? If

it is green, for instance? For younger kids, parents use sippy cups

to hide the appearance. Sometimes a cool or gross name works for

older kids.

 

- you can add baby spinach leaves to a blueberry-based smoothie

- you can add white beans to any fruit smoothie

- yes, cooked squash or sweet potato would be fine

- carrots, as you said

- coconut has lots of fat in it, which it sounds like he needs, but if

you need more you can add flax oil to a smoothie as well. Liquid

lecithin will help it to mix in instead of floating on top

- check your library for " The Sneaky Chef " books and " Deceptively

Delicious " for ideas on how to add vegetables into the other foods

that you serve

 

You can make a chocolate pudding out of avocado, banana, and cocoa.

Can he have those?

 

What grains, nuts/seeds, and beans can he have?

 

Pam

 

 

 

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:20 AM, heyitsme_di <heyitsme_di wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions, Kim!

>

> Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to

> what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods

> that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and

> won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out.

> Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good,

> he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about

> coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for

> smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though?

>

> What is jamba juice?

>

> What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he

> isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he

> likes and can have:

>

> strawberry

> apple

> apricot

> banana (but he isn't crazy about it)

> blueberry

> cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently)

> grapes (doesn't like them much)

> lemon

> papaya (never had it)

> peach (so-so on it)

> pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away)

> pineapple

>

> This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes

> it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a

> plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle

> is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle

> his entire life.

>

> Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you

> think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the

> taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty

> undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink.

> These are the veggies he can have:

>

> carrot

> avocado (certainly that would taste weird?)

> beets (I don't like them myself)

> cucumber

> green pepper

> peas

> spinach

> string bean

> tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might

> be worth a try?)

>

> My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and

> losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you!

>

> Diane

>

> , kim newman

>

> <veggiegalkn wrote:

>>

>> Diane,

>>

>> I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter

> barely

>> eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to

> ensure her

>> nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your

> son will

>> eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries,

>> blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of

> spinach or

>> collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more),

> enriched soy

>> milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon

> of ground

>> flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and

> a splash

>> of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even

> diabetics

>> can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his

> tastes and

>> even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that

> gives you so

>> much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks

> it is ok

>> but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3

> bananas with a

>> half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be

> smooth.

>> Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from

> it makes

>> it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very

> tasty

>> (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the

> day we at

>> least know we had that.

>>

>> What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that

> list to

>> help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of

> ideas

>> because I have to try and please us all (which is hard).

>>

>> Good luck

>> Kim

>>

>

>

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Not if you buy vanilla almond milk. IT rocks IMHO! I don't even taste the nuts!

 

Jamba Juice is a smoothie place in Hawaii and Florida and probably other

tropical places. Very healthy for you and we don't have them here in Indiana but

we have Squeeze. Same idea! You need a smoothie mixer or vita master to make him

these veggie/fruit drinks. Add more fruits than veggies for that sweet taste

kids love!

 

You'll do fine!

 

 

Karen

 

 

heyitsme_di

Friday, February 20, 2009 9:20 AM

 

Re: New Member, Need Help

 

 

Thanks for the suggestions, Kim!

 

Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to

what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods

that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and

won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out.

Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good,

he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about

coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for

smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though?

 

What is jamba juice?

 

What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he

isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he

likes and can have:

 

strawberry

apple

apricot

banana (but he isn't crazy about it)

blueberry

cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently)

grapes (doesn't like them much)

lemon

papaya (never had it)

peach (so-so on it)

pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away)

pineapple

 

This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes

it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a

plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle

is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle

his entire life.

 

Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you

think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the

taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty

undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink.

These are the veggies he can have:

 

carrot

avocado (certainly that would taste weird?)

beets (I don't like them myself)

cucumber

green pepper

peas

spinach

string bean

tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might

be worth a try?)

 

My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and

losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you!

 

Diane

 

, kim newman

<veggiegalkn wrote:

>

> Diane,

>

> I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter

barely

> eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to

ensure her

> nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your

son will

> eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries,

> blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of

spinach or

> collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more),

enriched soy

> milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon

of ground

> flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and

a splash

> of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even

diabetics

> can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his

tastes and

> even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that

gives you so

> much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks

it is ok

> but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3

bananas with a

> half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be

smooth.

> Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from

it makes

> it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very

tasty

> (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the

day we at

> least know we had that.

>

> What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that

list to

> help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of

ideas

> because I have to try and please us all (which is hard).

>

> Good luck

> Kim

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nut milk really doesn't taste like nuts. I wouldn't be able to guess which

nut a milk was based on if I didn't see the package.

 

Hemp milk is another option, though if he is picky, don't feed it to him

plain. Hemp protein powder could give him a jolt of needed protein.

 

But on top of all this food talk, I second Pam's suggestion that it sounds

like your son needs assistance from either a therapist who focuses on

adolescents and food or from an eating disorder clinic. It sounds like he

might be using food as a control mechanism in a way that might indicate an

eating disorder. (Him seeing one for a while couldn't hurt and might help,

right?)

 

Sally

 

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Karen Fielder <karenandbrandon

> wrote:

 

> Not if you buy vanilla almond milk. IT rocks IMHO! I don't even taste

> the nuts!

>

> Jamba Juice is a smoothie place in Hawaii and Florida and probably other

> tropical places. Very healthy for you and we don't have them here in Indiana

> but we have Squeeze. Same idea! You need a smoothie mixer or vita master to

> make him these veggie/fruit drinks. Add more fruits than veggies for that

> sweet taste kids love!

>

> You'll do fine!

>

> Karen

>

> heyitsme_di

> Friday, February 20, 2009 9:20 AM

> To:

<%40>

> Re: New Member, Need Help

>

>

> Thanks for the suggestions, Kim!

>

> Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to

> what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods

> that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and

> won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out.

> Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good,

> he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about

> coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for

> smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though?

>

> What is jamba juice?

>

> What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he

> isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he

> likes and can have:

>

> strawberry

> apple

> apricot

> banana (but he isn't crazy about it)

> blueberry

> cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently)

> grapes (doesn't like them much)

> lemon

> papaya (never had it)

> peach (so-so on it)

> pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away)

> pineapple

>

> This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes

> it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a

> plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle

> is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle

> his entire life.

>

> Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you

> think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the

> taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty

> undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink.

> These are the veggies he can have:

>

> carrot

> avocado (certainly that would taste weird?)

> beets (I don't like them myself)

> cucumber

> green pepper

> peas

> spinach

> string bean

> tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might

> be worth a try?)

>

> My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and

> losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you!

>

> Diane

>

> --- In

<%40>,

> kim newman

> <veggiegalkn wrote:

> >

> > Diane,

> >

> > I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter

> barely

> > eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to

> ensure her

> > nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your

> son will

> > eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries,

> > blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of

> spinach or

> > collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more),

> enriched soy

> > milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon

> of ground

> > flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and

> a splash

> > of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even

> diabetics

> > can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his

> tastes and

> > even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that

> gives you so

> > much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks

> it is ok

> > but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3

> bananas with a

> > half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be

> smooth.

> > Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from

> it makes

> > it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very

> tasty

> > (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the

> day we at

> > least know we had that.

> >

> > What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that

> list to

> > help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of

> ideas

> > because I have to try and please us all (which is hard).

> >

> > Good luck

> > Kim

> >

>

>

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Jamba Juice is a national chain. They have them here in NY too

 

--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Karen Fielder <karenandbrandon wrote:

Karen Fielder <karenandbrandon

Re: Re: New Member, Need Help

 

Friday, February 20, 2009, 12:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not if you buy vanilla almond milk. IT rocks IMHO! I don't even

taste the nuts!

 

 

 

Jamba Juice is a smoothie place in Hawaii and Florida and probably other

tropical places. Very healthy for you and we don't have them here in Indiana but

we have Squeeze. Same idea! You need a smoothie mixer or vita master to make him

these veggie/fruit drinks. Add more fruits than veggies for that sweet taste

kids love!

 

 

 

You'll do fine!

 

 

 

Karen

 

 

 

heyitsme_di

 

Friday, February 20, 2009 9:20 AM

 

Vegan-and-Gluten- Free@ .com

 

[Vegan-and-Gluten- Free] Re: New Member, Need Help

 

 

 

Thanks for the suggestions, Kim!

 

 

 

Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to

 

what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods

 

that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and

 

won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out.

 

Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good,

 

he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about

 

coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for

 

smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though?

 

 

 

What is jamba juice?

 

 

 

What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he

 

isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he

 

likes and can have:

 

 

 

strawberry

 

apple

 

apricot

 

banana (but he isn't crazy about it)

 

blueberry

 

cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently)

 

grapes (doesn't like them much)

 

lemon

 

papaya (never had it)

 

peach (so-so on it)

 

pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away)

 

pineapple

 

 

 

This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes

 

it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a

 

plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle

 

is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle

 

his entire life.

 

 

 

Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you

 

think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the

 

taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty

 

undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink.

 

These are the veggies he can have:

 

 

 

carrot

 

avocado (certainly that would taste weird?)

 

beets (I don't like them myself)

 

cucumber

 

green pepper

 

peas

 

spinach

 

string bean

 

tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might

 

be worth a try?)

 

 

 

My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and

 

losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you!

 

 

 

Diane

 

 

 

Vegan-and-Gluten- Free@ .com, kim newman

 

<veggiegalkn@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Diane,

 

>

 

> I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter

 

barely

 

> eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to

 

ensure her

 

> nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your

 

son will

 

> eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries,

 

> blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of

 

spinach or

 

> collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more),

 

enriched soy

 

> milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon

 

of ground

 

> flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and

 

a splash

 

> of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even

 

diabetics

 

> can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his

 

tastes and

 

> even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that

 

gives you so

 

> much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks

 

it is ok

 

> but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3

 

bananas with a

 

> half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be

 

smooth.

 

> Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from

 

it makes

 

> it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very

 

tasty

 

> (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the

 

day we at

 

> least know we had that.

 

>

 

> What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that

 

list to

 

> help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of

 

ideas

 

> because I have to try and please us all (which is hard).

 

>

 

> Good luck

 

> Kim

 

>

 

 

 

 

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As our moderator has clarified, all are welcome. I feel for you, I really do.

 

I'm wondering if your answer may lie in this statement about him being " an only

child who is sick at heart. "

 

Does he need the company of someone closer to his own age at home?

 

Our daughter is an only child too. It helped us a lot to have one of her

friends with us most of the time. I essentially helped raise a number of other

children this way, but it helped us all in the Big Picture.

 

What is it that he feels " sick at heart " about?

 

Has there been a significant change in the circumstances of your family in

recent time?

 

Have you considered family counselling?

 

Deborah

 

 

 

I am a parent of an only child who is sick at heart, but I will be

willing to quit the group if anyone feels what I am looking for is

not appropriate for the intended purposes of the group. Just let me

know, okay?

 

 

 

 

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Here's some ideas using the food you said was okay...

A really great really easy smoothie you could try is just some cut

up frozen strawberries, water, and some apple juice concentrate

(more than you should have for the amount of water you use, i think,

to make it nice and sweet). Blend it all up and it's really great.

Sorry, I don't measure anything :( , but it's easy enough. If you

have a protien powder you could probably throw it in and be fine,

though I've never tried it.

I think almond milk is fine as long as it's in things, but I'm not

too picky about foods, so who knows. If you decide to try it,

another smoothie that would get you the protien is strawberries

again, almond milk, some water (or not), about a spoonful of sugar,

and a bit of vanilla. Tastes like a pretty normal milkshake to me,

and it's strong enough that I bet you could hide protien powder in

there as well, though again, I've never tried. The same thing -

milk, sugar, and vanilla - is good with blueberries too. If you

blend either of those up thicker than normal, it makes pretty great

sorbet too.

Not much help on the veggies, though, I'm afraid. I know that the

juice in the store that's a mix of fruits and veggies uses carrot

and sweet potato juice, so those are probably easy enough ones to

cover up...I've never personally tried to put either one in a

smoothie, though. I bet you could do carrot, apple, and strawberry

together...that sounds good to me.

Oh...drat... I didn't think about sugar... can he eat refined

sugar? If not, the apple juice one is still okay, and honey might

be okay in the one with milk.

Good luck and hope that helps,

Katie

 

, " heyitsme_di "

<heyitsme_di wrote:

>

> Thanks for the suggestions, Kim!

>

> Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as

to

> what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole

Foods

> that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and

> won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out.

> Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste

good,

> he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about

> coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for

> smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though?

>

> What is jamba juice?

>

> What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what

he

> isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he

> likes and can have:

>

> strawberry

> apple

> apricot

> banana (but he isn't crazy about it)

> blueberry

> cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently)

> grapes (doesn't like them much)

> lemon

> papaya (never had it)

> peach (so-so on it)

> pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away)

> pineapple

>

> This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie

makes

> it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a

> plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the

battle

> is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a

battle

> his entire life.

>

> Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you

> think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the

> taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty

> undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already

drink.

> These are the veggies he can have:

>

> carrot

> avocado (certainly that would taste weird?)

> beets (I don't like them myself)

> cucumber

> green pepper

> peas

> spinach

> string bean

> tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it

might

> be worth a try?)

>

> My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and

> losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank

you!

>

> Diane

>

>

>

> , kim newman

> <veggiegalkn@> wrote:

> >

> > Diane,

> >

> > I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My

daughter

> barely

> > eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to

> ensure her

> > nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If

your

> son will

> > eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries,

> > blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of

> spinach or

> > collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more),

> enriched soy

> > milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a

tablespoon

> of ground

> > flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's)

and

> a splash

> > of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and

even

> diabetics

> > can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with

his

> tastes and

> > even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that

> gives you so

> > much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter

thinks

> it is ok

> > but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3

> bananas with a

> > half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be

> smooth.

> > Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get

from

> it makes

> > it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is

very

> tasty

> > (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of

the

> day we at

> > least know we had that.

> >

> > What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from

that

> list to

> > help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots

of

> ideas

> > because I have to try and please us all (which is hard).

> >

> > Good luck

> > Kim

> >

>

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Oh, sorry, it's just my writing skills. What I meant was, I was a

single mother of an only child, and I was the one who was sick at

heart since he wasn't eating much for several days! He actually does

okay being an only child . . . he says he is glad he never has to

share anything, LOL! I think that attitude will change as he gets

older (he is 14), but he has truly done terrifically in this way.

Never once has he ever complained of being alone or being bored. He

has always been a child who never looks to anyone else to stay

occupied, including me . . . he is what I call a self-soother.

That's the thing, other than the food problems, he is a great kid!

I'm sure he gets lonely sometimes, and I try to encourage him to have

friends over . . .

 

, Deborah Pageau

<dpageau wrote:

>

> As our moderator has clarified, all are welcome. I feel for you, I

really do.

>

> I'm wondering if your answer may lie in this statement about him

being " an only child who is sick at heart. "

>

> Does he need the company of someone closer to his own age at home?

>

> Our daughter is an only child too. It helped us a lot to have one

of her friends with us most of the time. I essentially helped raise

a number of other children this way, but it helped us all in the Big

Picture.

>

> What is it that he feels " sick at heart " about?

>

> Has there been a significant change in the circumstances of your

family in recent time?

>

> Have you considered family counselling?

>

> Deborah

>

>

>

> I am a parent of an only child who is sick at heart, but I will

be

> willing to quit the group if anyone feels what I am looking for

is

> not appropriate for the intended purposes of the group. Just let

me

> know, okay?

>

>

>

>

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