Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night concerned about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 >>> Is there > a resource here for recipes? Diane, at the bottom of each message posted, there is a link to our recipe files. Or you can go to our home page and click on files. The first in line is the link to our recipes. I hope that you will be able to find something there that your son will eat and enjoy. Welcome to the group. LaDonna I truly and honestly don't know where to > start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat > anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would > many times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night > concerned about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high > holistic reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, > his problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the > way. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Diane, I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter barely eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to ensure her nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your son will eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries, blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of spinach or collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more), enriched soy milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon of ground flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and a splash of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even diabetics can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his tastes and even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that gives you so much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks it is ok but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3 bananas with a half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be smooth. Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from it makes it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very tasty (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the day we at least know we had that. What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that list to help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of ideas because I have to try and please us all (which is hard). Good luck Kim On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Diane <heyitsme_di wrote: > My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go GFCF, > and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is > there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to > start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat > anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would > many times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night > concerned about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high > holistic reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, > his problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the > way. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Diane, My son is younger than yours but we are having success with an ABA approach to his feeding issues. They use a food reinforcer (for us, popsicles and candy!) and gradually work up to accepting a new food. First putting the food on the plate, them touching it, then bringing it to their lips, then holding it in their mouth (they are allowed to spit it out after) until eventually they have to eat the whole bite - each time, their reward is the preferred food. It is a very, very looooong process, but it has been effective. We only get ABA at home for about 4 hours per week in addition to the work they do at lunch and snack during school; but your other option is to seek out a local intensive feeding clinic (~40 hours/week). Hope this helps, Amber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I have teenaged sons however we've been doing alternative diet things since they were about 8 years old. But, they still want their pizza and cookies and pasta. There are still times they get angry that they can't go to a social event and eat whatever is served. They do sometimes get embarrassed showing up at Scout Camp with coolers of their own food and having to prepare their own food. Here's a thought that helps my sons with the food allergies--they would much rather be known as the cool kids who participate in everything (including the extreme sports -- rapelling, rock climbing, white water rafting, mountain biking, etc) and eat strange foods than be the kids that are sick all the time and hold the group back from doing fun activities. It's not cool to be sick having to be in the bathroom all the time or holding the group back because they don't have enough energy or strength to get through the activity. It is true--my kids recognize that when the eat the offending foods--they feel crappy, they are grouchy and now one wants to be with them. Not a great way to live. They've accepted their situation and are making the best of it. And they are much healthier---none of them have been ill requiring an antibiotic in almost 8 years. Now that they are teens, my kids want to learn how to cook. One loves to stir-fry vegetables. One does great desserts. All of them make their own pizza dough. They will look through my recipes and make suggestions. They are thinking outside the box and suggest different herbs for things --not always successful but great to have them learning and thinking. Perhaps enlising your son in his own diet and recovery can make for a better situation. Susan, Front Royal, VA --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Diane <heyitsme_di wrote: Diane <heyitsme_di New Member, Need Help Monday, February 16, 2009, 8:49 AM My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night concerned about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Diane, On the GFCFRecipes and GFCFKids , there are a number of parents who had kids that limited what they ate. Whenthey first went GFCF, there was some refusal to eat (there is also a withdrawal period where you generally feel bad). After that, their children were much more open to new foods. The way your son acts may be because he knows the food makes him feel bad, but he is addicted to it. Amanda , Diane <heyitsme_di wrote: > > My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night concerned about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I'd like to echo what Amanda says. Many people discover that their children who were very limited in what they would willingly eat were limited to the foods they are allergic to or intolerant of. It's strange, isn't it, to think of people being addicted like that to food that's sickening them? But it's true for such a large number of people that after you've been hanging out in the food allergic/intolerant community for a while, you start to take it for granted. After a time period of cutting out the offending foods, their palates broaden, and they're at least willing, if not happy, to eat a broader range of foods. So there's hope for your son. Sally On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM, aldohert <amandakirby wrote: > Diane, > > On the GFCFRecipes and GFCFKids , there are a number of > parents who had kids that limited what they ate. Whenthey first went > GFCF, there was some refusal to eat (there is also a withdrawal period > where you generally feel bad). After that, their children were much > more open to new foods. The way your son acts may be because he knows > the food makes him feel bad, but he is addicted to it. > > Amanda > > --- In <%40>, > Diane <heyitsme_di > wrote: > > > > > My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go > GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He > is 14. Is there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly > don't know where to start. My son is not a child who will respond to > " eat this or don't eat anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even > with gluten and dairy, he would many times push away his plate and eat > nothing. I have been up all night concerned about how I am going to > handle this. A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks > seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be > significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any help or > suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 This is a vegan thread. I sympathize with your situation, but why are you looking for guidance on a vegan thread if as you say below, " We are not going to eat vegan, by the way " heyitsme_di Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:49:21 -0800 New Member, Need Help My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night concerned about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 In response to Patricia's post, I'll reiterate what Margaret said several threads ago: " There are several, if not many, of us, who are not vegan but who write for and respond to and learn from this group. I am not vegan but have food allergies that keep me away from dairy and eggs and gluten. Any of my baking or non-meat meals are essentially gluten-free/vegan out of necessity. A group that is strictly gluten-free and not vegan would just not be that useful for me because of my other restrictions. While my food choices do not match the group's title everyday, I'm still a contributor who learns a lot from those who post. " There are plenty of us in this group who respect vegans but don't keep an entirely vegan diet. Diane, you're welcome to learn from the wisdom of the group members. We all have to find our own ways through this life and diet. We can all contribute and learn even if our diets are not identical. Sally On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Patricia Boggs <pboggs wrote: > > This is a vegan thread. I sympathize with your situation, but why are you > looking for guidance on a vegan thread if as you say below, " We are not > going to eat vegan, by the way " > > To: <%40> > heyitsme_di <heyitsme_di%40> > Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:49:21 -0800 > > New Member, Need Help > > My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go GFCF, and > this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is there a > resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to start. > My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. " > He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times > push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night concerned > about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high holistic > reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, his > problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any > help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 My family isn't " vegan " either, although my 3 YO daughter refuses to eat meat (she pretty much refuses to eat almost anything). I have gotten some great recipes from this group since we are GFCF and my son is egg free and soy free. I also want to limit his meat intake (he used to have a beef allergy) and my husband refuses to eat red meat. I love this group for providing great recipes, especially some high in protein, that my family can eat. Basically, I can understand what this person is saying when she is saying that they aren't vegan. This group was actually recommended by another group since I was looking for non-meat alternatives for my children. : pboggs: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:47:24 +0000RE: New Member, Need HelpThis is a vegan thread. I sympathize with your situation, but why are you looking for guidance on a vegan thread if as you say below, " We are not going to eat vegan, by the way " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Thanks for the suggestions, Kim! Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out. Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good, he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though? What is jamba juice? What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he likes and can have: strawberry apple apricot banana (but he isn't crazy about it) blueberry cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently) grapes (doesn't like them much) lemon papaya (never had it) peach (so-so on it) pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away) pineapple This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle his entire life. Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink. These are the veggies he can have: carrot avocado (certainly that would taste weird?) beets (I don't like them myself) cucumber green pepper peas spinach string bean tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might be worth a try?) My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you! Diane , kim newman <veggiegalkn wrote: > > Diane, > > I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter barely > eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to ensure her > nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your son will > eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries, > blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of spinach or > collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more), enriched soy > milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon of ground > flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and a splash > of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even diabetics > can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his tastes and > even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that gives you so > much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks it is ok > but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3 bananas with a > half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be smooth. > Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from it makes > it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very tasty > (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the day we at > least know we had that. > > What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that list to > help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of ideas > because I have to try and please us all (which is hard). > > Good luck > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Because I am desperate. Because my son looks like the walking dead, and not just to me, but to three doctors thusfar. Because a very well-respected and renowned, nationally-known doctor basically gave him a death sentence for his future last week. Because I am worried sick and not sleeping much for days on end. And because if I limit him to fruits and vegetables, no meat, when every bite of food put into his mouth has been a fight his entire life (14 years), he is going to go on the way he is going. And he has barely eaten anything in several days. You may or may not be aware that there are not many groups on the Net to address this issue. And furthermore, I am very frustrated because every single website I look at for recipes addresses these issues with rice or other grains he cannot have. Most of them do not apply to me. The only thing I can do is consult with other people who have had to navigate a situation such as this. I am a parent of an only child who is sick at heart, but I will be willing to quit the group if anyone feels what I am looking for is not appropriate for the intended purposes of the group. Just let me know, okay? , Patricia Boggs <pboggs wrote: > > > This is a vegan thread. I sympathize with your situation, but why are you looking for guidance on a vegan thread if as you say below, " We are not going to eat vegan, by the way " > > > > > > > > > > > > > My son barely eats anything as it is. It turns out he has to go GFCF, and this means the few things he will eat are off the list. He is 14. Is there a resource here for recipes? I truly and honestly don't know where to start. My son is not a child who will respond to " eat this or don't eat anything. " He will eat nothing then. Even with gluten and dairy, he would many times push away his plate and eat nothing. I have been up all night concerned about how I am going to handle this. A doctor with a high holistic reputation says he looks seriously ill, and that in a few years, his problems will be significant. We are not going to eat vegan, by the way. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Out of all the milk subs we have tested almond milk is the most favoured, followed by coconut milk. What most people mean by yucky taste is the lack of fatty mouth feel they are used to with animal milks. Coconut milk used to be the favourite here, but the children are older now (13 - 19) and prefer almond milk. We don't use any milk sub for drinking unless it's an occassional glass of hot chocolate or something. Mostly milk subs are used for cereals and once-in-a-blue moon for baking. Another alternative is hemp milk, but my family only likes that in cooking. What grains, seeds or nuts are you permitted to use for his baking? What components equal good taste to him? It's a very hard issue to have a self-limiting child who would literally rather starve than eat something he doesn't want. I am sure it's very scary and frustrating for you. I don't usually invite people to other groups because I think it's bad edicate, but have you joined my group gfcfrecipes here at . We have about 4800 members, many of whom have self-limiting children on the gfcf diet as well as having other allergies. Oh, btw, we just found out from Ocean Spray that their craisins contain wheat as a non-stick agent. BL On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, heyitsme_di <heyitsme_di wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions, Kim! > > Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to > what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods > that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and > won't eat them even in candy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Sounds from your other post like he might need a feeding clinic or eating disorder clinic as well. But yes, coconut milk would be great for smoothies. It is not super sweet, I think it would be nice. You can add lots of different veggies to a smoothie. Will he drink it if it doesn't look good? If it is green, for instance? For younger kids, parents use sippy cups to hide the appearance. Sometimes a cool or gross name works for older kids. - you can add baby spinach leaves to a blueberry-based smoothie - you can add white beans to any fruit smoothie - yes, cooked squash or sweet potato would be fine - carrots, as you said - coconut has lots of fat in it, which it sounds like he needs, but if you need more you can add flax oil to a smoothie as well. Liquid lecithin will help it to mix in instead of floating on top - check your library for " The Sneaky Chef " books and " Deceptively Delicious " for ideas on how to add vegetables into the other foods that you serve You can make a chocolate pudding out of avocado, banana, and cocoa. Can he have those? What grains, nuts/seeds, and beans can he have? Pam On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:20 AM, heyitsme_di <heyitsme_di wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions, Kim! > > Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to > what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods > that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and > won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out. > Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good, > he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about > coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for > smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though? > > What is jamba juice? > > What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he > isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he > likes and can have: > > strawberry > apple > apricot > banana (but he isn't crazy about it) > blueberry > cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently) > grapes (doesn't like them much) > lemon > papaya (never had it) > peach (so-so on it) > pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away) > pineapple > > This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes > it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a > plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle > is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle > his entire life. > > Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you > think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the > taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty > undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink. > These are the veggies he can have: > > carrot > avocado (certainly that would taste weird?) > beets (I don't like them myself) > cucumber > green pepper > peas > spinach > string bean > tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might > be worth a try?) > > My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and > losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you! > > Diane > > , kim newman > > <veggiegalkn wrote: >> >> Diane, >> >> I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter > barely >> eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to > ensure her >> nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your > son will >> eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries, >> blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of > spinach or >> collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more), > enriched soy >> milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon > of ground >> flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and > a splash >> of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even > diabetics >> can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his > tastes and >> even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that > gives you so >> much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks > it is ok >> but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3 > bananas with a >> half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be > smooth. >> Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from > it makes >> it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very > tasty >> (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the > day we at >> least know we had that. >> >> What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that > list to >> help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of > ideas >> because I have to try and please us all (which is hard). >> >> Good luck >> Kim >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Not if you buy vanilla almond milk. IT rocks IMHO! I don't even taste the nuts! Jamba Juice is a smoothie place in Hawaii and Florida and probably other tropical places. Very healthy for you and we don't have them here in Indiana but we have Squeeze. Same idea! You need a smoothie mixer or vita master to make him these veggie/fruit drinks. Add more fruits than veggies for that sweet taste kids love! You'll do fine! Karen heyitsme_di Friday, February 20, 2009 9:20 AM Re: New Member, Need Help Thanks for the suggestions, Kim! Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out. Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good, he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though? What is jamba juice? What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he likes and can have: strawberry apple apricot banana (but he isn't crazy about it) blueberry cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently) grapes (doesn't like them much) lemon papaya (never had it) peach (so-so on it) pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away) pineapple This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle his entire life. Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink. These are the veggies he can have: carrot avocado (certainly that would taste weird?) beets (I don't like them myself) cucumber green pepper peas spinach string bean tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might be worth a try?) My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you! Diane , kim newman <veggiegalkn wrote: > > Diane, > > I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter barely > eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to ensure her > nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your son will > eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries, > blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of spinach or > collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more), enriched soy > milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon of ground > flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and a splash > of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even diabetics > can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his tastes and > even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that gives you so > much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks it is ok > but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3 bananas with a > half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be smooth. > Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from it makes > it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very tasty > (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the day we at > least know we had that. > > What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that list to > help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of ideas > because I have to try and please us all (which is hard). > > Good luck > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Nut milk really doesn't taste like nuts. I wouldn't be able to guess which nut a milk was based on if I didn't see the package. Hemp milk is another option, though if he is picky, don't feed it to him plain. Hemp protein powder could give him a jolt of needed protein. But on top of all this food talk, I second Pam's suggestion that it sounds like your son needs assistance from either a therapist who focuses on adolescents and food or from an eating disorder clinic. It sounds like he might be using food as a control mechanism in a way that might indicate an eating disorder. (Him seeing one for a while couldn't hurt and might help, right?) Sally On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Karen Fielder <karenandbrandon > wrote: > Not if you buy vanilla almond milk. IT rocks IMHO! I don't even taste > the nuts! > > Jamba Juice is a smoothie place in Hawaii and Florida and probably other > tropical places. Very healthy for you and we don't have them here in Indiana > but we have Squeeze. Same idea! You need a smoothie mixer or vita master to > make him these veggie/fruit drinks. Add more fruits than veggies for that > sweet taste kids love! > > You'll do fine! > > Karen > > heyitsme_di > Friday, February 20, 2009 9:20 AM > To: <%40> > Re: New Member, Need Help > > > Thanks for the suggestions, Kim! > > Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to > what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods > that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and > won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out. > Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good, > he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about > coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for > smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though? > > What is jamba juice? > > What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he > isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he > likes and can have: > > strawberry > apple > apricot > banana (but he isn't crazy about it) > blueberry > cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently) > grapes (doesn't like them much) > lemon > papaya (never had it) > peach (so-so on it) > pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away) > pineapple > > This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes > it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a > plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle > is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle > his entire life. > > Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you > think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the > taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty > undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink. > These are the veggies he can have: > > carrot > avocado (certainly that would taste weird?) > beets (I don't like them myself) > cucumber > green pepper > peas > spinach > string bean > tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might > be worth a try?) > > My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and > losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you! > > Diane > > --- In <%40>, > kim newman > <veggiegalkn wrote: > > > > Diane, > > > > I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter > barely > > eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to > ensure her > > nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your > son will > > eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries, > > blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of > spinach or > > collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more), > enriched soy > > milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon > of ground > > flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and > a splash > > of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even > diabetics > > can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his > tastes and > > even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that > gives you so > > much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks > it is ok > > but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3 > bananas with a > > half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be > smooth. > > Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from > it makes > > it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very > tasty > > (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the > day we at > > least know we had that. > > > > What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that > list to > > help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of > ideas > > because I have to try and please us all (which is hard). > > > > Good luck > > Kim > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Jamba Juice is a national chain. They have them here in NY too --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Karen Fielder <karenandbrandon wrote: Karen Fielder <karenandbrandon Re: Re: New Member, Need Help Friday, February 20, 2009, 12:45 PM Not if you buy vanilla almond milk. IT rocks IMHO! I don't even taste the nuts! Jamba Juice is a smoothie place in Hawaii and Florida and probably other tropical places. Very healthy for you and we don't have them here in Indiana but we have Squeeze. Same idea! You need a smoothie mixer or vita master to make him these veggie/fruit drinks. Add more fruits than veggies for that sweet taste kids love! You'll do fine! Karen heyitsme_di Friday, February 20, 2009 9:20 AM Vegan-and-Gluten- Free@ .com [Vegan-and-Gluten- Free] Re: New Member, Need Help Thanks for the suggestions, Kim! Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out. Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good, he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though? What is jamba juice? What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he likes and can have: strawberry apple apricot banana (but he isn't crazy about it) blueberry cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently) grapes (doesn't like them much) lemon papaya (never had it) peach (so-so on it) pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away) pineapple This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle his entire life. Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink. These are the veggies he can have: carrot avocado (certainly that would taste weird?) beets (I don't like them myself) cucumber green pepper peas spinach string bean tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might be worth a try?) My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you! Diane Vegan-and-Gluten- Free@ .com, kim newman <veggiegalkn@ ...> wrote: > > Diane, > > I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter barely > eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to ensure her > nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your son will > eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries, > blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of spinach or > collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more), enriched soy > milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon of ground > flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and a splash > of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even diabetics > can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his tastes and > even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that gives you so > much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks it is ok > but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3 bananas with a > half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be smooth. > Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from it makes > it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very tasty > (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the day we at > least know we had that. > > What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that list to > help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of ideas > because I have to try and please us all (which is hard). > > Good luck > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 As our moderator has clarified, all are welcome. I feel for you, I really do. I'm wondering if your answer may lie in this statement about him being " an only child who is sick at heart. " Does he need the company of someone closer to his own age at home? Our daughter is an only child too. It helped us a lot to have one of her friends with us most of the time. I essentially helped raise a number of other children this way, but it helped us all in the Big Picture. What is it that he feels " sick at heart " about? Has there been a significant change in the circumstances of your family in recent time? Have you considered family counselling? Deborah I am a parent of an only child who is sick at heart, but I will be willing to quit the group if anyone feels what I am looking for is not appropriate for the intended purposes of the group. Just let me know, okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Here's some ideas using the food you said was okay... A really great really easy smoothie you could try is just some cut up frozen strawberries, water, and some apple juice concentrate (more than you should have for the amount of water you use, i think, to make it nice and sweet). Blend it all up and it's really great. Sorry, I don't measure anything , but it's easy enough. If you have a protien powder you could probably throw it in and be fine, though I've never tried it. I think almond milk is fine as long as it's in things, but I'm not too picky about foods, so who knows. If you decide to try it, another smoothie that would get you the protien is strawberries again, almond milk, some water (or not), about a spoonful of sugar, and a bit of vanilla. Tastes like a pretty normal milkshake to me, and it's strong enough that I bet you could hide protien powder in there as well, though again, I've never tried. The same thing - milk, sugar, and vanilla - is good with blueberries too. If you blend either of those up thicker than normal, it makes pretty great sorbet too. Not much help on the veggies, though, I'm afraid. I know that the juice in the store that's a mix of fruits and veggies uses carrot and sweet potato juice, so those are probably easy enough ones to cover up...I've never personally tried to put either one in a smoothie, though. I bet you could do carrot, apple, and strawberry together...that sounds good to me. Oh...drat... I didn't think about sugar... can he eat refined sugar? If not, the apple juice one is still okay, and honey might be okay in the one with milk. Good luck and hope that helps, Katie , " heyitsme_di " <heyitsme_di wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestions, Kim! > > Since he is allergic to rice milk, does anyone have any ideas as to > what I could use in place of that? I heard from a rep at Whole Foods > that almond milk tastes pretty yuck, and anyway, he hates nuts and > won't eat them even in candy. So, I fear that nut milks are out. > Since my son goes on a basis of taste, and if it doesn't taste good, > he spits it out . . . it really has to be palatable. What about > coconut milk? Has anyone in the group used coconut milk for > smoothies? I hear it's really super sweet, though? > > What is jamba juice? > > What does he like? Well, it's a pretty short list. LOL And what he > isn't allergic to is also a short list. These are the things he > likes and can have: > > strawberry > apple > apricot > banana (but he isn't crazy about it) > blueberry > cranberry (not crazy about them, I bought the fresh recently) > grapes (doesn't like them much) > lemon > papaya (never had it) > peach (so-so on it) > pear (leaves fresh pear on the plate and pushes it away) > pineapple > > This is the thing, I am wondering if things being in a smoothie makes > it easier since it is more undetectable? Not like putting it on a > plate? As long as I can get it to taste good, then half the battle > is over. And let me tell you, every bite of food has been a battle > his entire life. > > Fruits are great, but I have to get veggies in there, too. Do you > think if I mix some veggies in with certain fruits, I can mask the > taste of the veggies? I have heard that squash is pretty > undetectable, is this true? Carrot and apple he will already drink. > These are the veggies he can have: > > carrot > avocado (certainly that would taste weird?) > beets (I don't like them myself) > cucumber > green pepper > peas > spinach > string bean > tomato (although he doesn't like them, but maybe in a juice it might > be worth a try?) > > My son has barely eaten in three days, so I am very concerned and > losing sleep. Any help would be appreciated soooo much! Thank you! > > Diane > > > > , kim newman > <veggiegalkn@> wrote: > > > > Diane, > > > > I understand your frustration and feeling overwhelmed. My daughter > barely > > eats anything either and is so picky. One thing I get in her to > ensure her > > nutrients and calories is a daily smoothie that she loves. If your > son will > > eat fruit this is the one I make everyday. Bananas, raspberries, > > blackberries (which have calcium), blueberries, a handful of > spinach or > > collard greens or both (for the iron, vit K, calcium and more), > enriched soy > > milk or rice milk (protein, calcium, vit D and more) a tablespoon > of ground > > flax seeds (fiber, antioxidants, cancer fighter and Omega 3's) and > a splash > > of agave nectar (sweetener with a very low glycemic index and even > diabetics > > can use it). You can use the amounts you feel will work with his > tastes and > > even try other fruits or mixtures. I even make a smoothie that > gives you so > > much energy that you don't even need coffee and my daughter thinks > it is ok > > but your son might balk at the color (green). You mix 2 or 3 > bananas with a > > half of a head of romaine lettuce and some water to help it be > smooth. > > Sound gross but is actually pretty good and the energy you get from > it makes > > it even better. I make these with our magic bullet and it is very > tasty > > (better than Jamba Juice) and if we don't do well the rest of the > day we at > > least know we had that. > > > > What does he like, maybe we could all come up with ideas from that > list to > > help you out. My son and husband are meat eaters so I have lots of > ideas > > because I have to try and please us all (which is hard). > > > > Good luck > > Kim > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Oh, sorry, it's just my writing skills. What I meant was, I was a single mother of an only child, and I was the one who was sick at heart since he wasn't eating much for several days! He actually does okay being an only child . . . he says he is glad he never has to share anything, LOL! I think that attitude will change as he gets older (he is 14), but he has truly done terrifically in this way. Never once has he ever complained of being alone or being bored. He has always been a child who never looks to anyone else to stay occupied, including me . . . he is what I call a self-soother. That's the thing, other than the food problems, he is a great kid! I'm sure he gets lonely sometimes, and I try to encourage him to have friends over . . . , Deborah Pageau <dpageau wrote: > > As our moderator has clarified, all are welcome. I feel for you, I really do. > > I'm wondering if your answer may lie in this statement about him being " an only child who is sick at heart. " > > Does he need the company of someone closer to his own age at home? > > Our daughter is an only child too. It helped us a lot to have one of her friends with us most of the time. I essentially helped raise a number of other children this way, but it helped us all in the Big Picture. > > What is it that he feels " sick at heart " about? > > Has there been a significant change in the circumstances of your family in recent time? > > Have you considered family counselling? > > Deborah > > > > I am a parent of an only child who is sick at heart, but I will be > willing to quit the group if anyone feels what I am looking for is > not appropriate for the intended purposes of the group. Just let me > know, okay? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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