Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Thanks for your thoughts on the matter, Susan. Thing is, my son doesn't sense that it makes him feel bad in any way, although he looks very, very ill by sight. His theory is, he would rather eat things that taste good and that make him happy, even if it causes him a shorter life . . . because, in his words, " at least he will die happy. " So, this is a tough one? :o/ , Susan Haggerty <haggboys03 wrote: > > I have teenaged sons however we've been doing alternative diet things since they were about 8 years old. But, they still want their pizza and cookies and pasta. There are still times they get angry that they can't go to a social event and eat whatever is served. They do sometimes get embarrassed showing up at Scout Camp with coolers of their own food and having to prepare their own food. > > Here's a thought that helps my sons with the food allergies--they would much rather be known as the cool kids who participate in everything (including the extreme sports -- rapelling, rock climbing, white water rafting, mountain biking, etc) and eat strange foods than be the kids that are sick all the time and hold the group back from doing fun activities. It's not cool to be sick having to be in the bathroom all the time or holding the group back because they don't have enough energy or strength to get through the activity. > > It is true--my kids recognize that when the eat the offending foods- -they feel crappy, they are grouchy and now one wants to be with them. Not a great way to live. They've accepted their situation and are making the best of it. And they are much healthier---none of them have been ill requiring an antibiotic in almost 8 years. > > Now that they are teens, my kids want to learn how to cook. One loves to stir-fry vegetables. One does great desserts. All of them make their own pizza dough. They will look through my recipes and make suggestions. They are thinking outside the box and suggest different herbs for things --not always successful but great to have them learning and thinking. > > Perhaps enlising your son in his own diet and recovery can make for a better situation. > > Susan, > Front Royal, VA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Mine is 10 yo, and he agrees that he would rather eat the food and be sick (diarrhea, throwing up, etc.) than to eat the things he is allowed. It's pretty tough. We've had to institute a " no food at friends house " rule - that the parents know he is allowed to eat nothing there - because he refuses to follow his diet. And at home, we don't have anything he is not allowed to eat, other than his dad's milk, which he doesn't like. Pam On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:25 AM, heyitsme_di <heyitsme_di wrote: > Thanks for your thoughts on the matter, Susan. Thing is, my son > doesn't sense that it makes him feel bad in any way, although he > looks very, very ill by sight. His theory is, he would rather eat > things that taste good and that make him happy, even if it causes him > a shorter life . . . because, in his words, " at least he will die > happy. " So, this is a tough one? :o/ > > , Susan Haggerty > <haggboys03 wrote: >> >> I have teenaged sons however we've been doing alternative diet > things since they were about 8 years old. But, they still want their > pizza and cookies and pasta. There are still times they get angry > that they can't go to a social event and eat whatever is served. > They do sometimes get embarrassed showing up at Scout Camp with > coolers of their own food and having to prepare their own food. >> >> Here's a thought that helps my sons with the food allergies--they > would much rather be known as the cool kids who participate in > everything (including the extreme sports -- rapelling, rock climbing, > white water rafting, mountain biking, etc) and eat strange foods than > be the kids that are sick all the time and hold the group back from > doing fun activities. It's not cool to be sick having to be in the > bathroom all the time or holding the group back because they don't > have enough energy or strength to get through the activity. >> >> It is true--my kids recognize that when the eat the offending foods- > -they feel crappy, they are grouchy and now one wants to be with > them. Not a great way to live. They've accepted their situation and > are making the best of it. And they are much healthier---none of > them have been ill requiring an antibiotic in almost 8 years. >> >> Now that they are teens, my kids want to learn how to cook. One > loves to stir-fry vegetables. One does great desserts. All of them > make their own pizza dough. They will look through my recipes and > make suggestions. They are thinking outside the box and suggest > different herbs for things --not always successful but great to have > them learning and thinking. >> >> Perhaps enlising your son in his own diet and recovery can make for > a better situation. >> >> Susan, >> Front Royal, VA >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 .. . because, in his words, " at least he will die > happy. " > I can totally empathize with your predicament. I have had family members utter those exact same words. And especially when you go through everything you can think of to convince them, and they still think that way, it can be very frustrating and hard to deal with. I don't know what to tell you except keep trying and don't give up. Find things that he does like, and maybe try to find ways to 'hide' protein in them. I do this with protein and veggies for my daughter, and sometimes it's trial and error to get a final product that tastes okay, but I've managed to find a few things that she likes and will accept. Does he have any (even slight) interest in cooking/baking? Sometimes if you get them involved they are more willing to give the final product a try at least. Can he have soy? I put soymilk powder in most everything I bake. I'm used to dealing with cd, allergies to corn, soy, dairy, eggs, nuts, and a variety of vegetables, fruits, spices, and off and on meat tolerance, total unwillingness to eat any form of bean. If I can be of any help, feel free to email me a list of all the allergies/intolerance to eating and I'll see if I can come up with anything. Hang in there, I know it can be overwhelming sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 My daughter got to be like that once she was old enough to be out in the world and assert her own will on the world. I'm not trying to be arguementative, just offer another perspective. I turned myself inside out to provide meals that she would eat and that I also felt were nutritionally satisfactory. Ultimately though, difficult as it was to let go, we found the only way for us WAS to give up and let her do her own thing. It seems to have worked out all right for us. She started insisting on eating what she wanted as a young teen, she has just turned 25 and is now beginning to come back to the vegan gluten free diet. She apparently needed that 10 years of exploring the alternatives... and their costs. It's only now that she is older and her body is starting to rebell against dietary abuse, that she is finding her own motivation. That can be what it takes for very strong willed people. Deborah . . because, in his words, " at least he will die happy. " > I can totally empathize with your predicament. I have had family members utter those exact same words. And especially when you go through everything you can think of to convince them, and they still think that way, it can be very frustrating and hard to deal with. I don't know what to tell you except keep trying and don't give up. Find things that he does like, and maybe try to find ways to 'hide' protein in them. I do this with protein and veggies for my daughter, and sometimes it's trial and error to get a final product that tastes okay, but I've managed to find a few things that she likes and will accept. Does he have any (even slight) interest in cooking/baking? Sometimes if you get them involved they are more willing to give the final product a try at least. Can he have soy? I put soymilk powder in most everything I bake. I'm used to dealing with cd, allergies to corn, soy, dairy, eggs, nuts, and a variety of vegetables, fruits, spices, and off and on meat tolerance, total unwillingness to eat any form of bean. If I can be of any help, feel free to email me a list of all the allergies/intolerance to eating and I'll see if I can come up with anything. Hang in there, I know it can be overwhelming sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Sorry, what's CD? No, he cannot have soy, unfortunately. An interest in cooking and baking, well, I am cooking and baking disabled. So, I don't think that helps. I probably should try to get him involved, he might be more interested in the meal if he also has a hand in making it. That is a good suggestion. Thanks so much for the offer of sending you the list, I really appreciate it!!! , " akua456 " <akua456 wrote: > > . . because, in his words, " at least he will die > > happy. " > > > > I can totally empathize with your predicament. I have had family > members utter those exact same words. And especially when you go > through everything you can think of to convince them, and they still > think that way, it can be very frustrating and hard to deal with. I > don't know what to tell you except keep trying and don't give up. > Find things that he does like, and maybe try to find ways to 'hide' > protein in them. I do this with protein and veggies for my daughter, > and sometimes it's trial and error to get a final product that tastes > okay, but I've managed to find a few things that she likes and will > accept. Does he have any (even slight) interest in cooking/baking? > Sometimes if you get them involved they are more willing to give the > final product a try at least. Can he have soy? I put soymilk powder > in most everything I bake. I'm used to dealing with cd, allergies to > corn, soy, dairy, eggs, nuts, and a variety of vegetables, fruits, > spices, and off and on meat tolerance, total unwillingness to eat any > form of bean. If I can be of any help, feel free to email me a list > of all the allergies/intolerance to eating and I'll see if I can come > up with anything. Hang in there, I know it can be overwhelming sometimes. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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